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Your take: Is American Muslim alienation valid?
Mohammad Ali Elahi, the imam at the Islamic House of Wisdom in Dearborn Heights, Michigan.
March 28th, 2011
05:07 PM ET

Your take: Is American Muslim alienation valid?

Lots of provocative comments on our story about Muslims in one of the country's biggest and oldest Muslim enclaves feeling alienated in their own country. Many commenters are critical of American Muslims; many others sympathetic and supportive.

But the responses are all over the map and largely defy such easy categorization.

Here's a sampling:

Joe from Kalispell
The fact there is even a "Muslim Enclave" is scary. They already wanted to be separate to not be "polluted by American values." They are really pushing their First Amendment right because I am sure the Founding Fathers didn't mean to afford protection to a religion so opposed to our existence as is Islam.

JustAHuman
It is sad to see so much hate in this country and little education about other cultures and religions. In many instances we "Americans" bring destructions upon ourselves and we are blind to see why.

joe
These Muslims are safer in this country than anywhere else in the world. if they think they are unsafe here let them leave.

freeddoom
If you are really sick of them, then don't buy their oil, don't invade their countries, dont kill them, don't steal their land, don't prop up dictators to take their freedom away. I bet they have more reason to be sick of you buddy.

Maya
Islam literally means "submission" to God. Therefore, any human being that submits himself to God is considered to be following "Islam." what that means is, if you are a christian, who submits yourself to God, then you are in fact upholding Islam. You really do have to put the verse into context and understand the exact meanings. Here are a few verse for you to ponder upon:

"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians – whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

Kat
Reality, funny because the terrorists never say they do in the name of Islam or to convert people to Islam or force Islam on America. They only complain about the hostile US policies and wars, and its support to Israeli atrocities, many supporters belong to religious  believers who want to see Armageddon and end of the world.

I know the media and politicians tell you that it's all about religion to mute any serious discussion of the root cause of terror.

Wirius
I am not a Muslim. I am APPALLED at the people who profess to faith in God, their ignorant accusations against the Muslim population in America. There are millions of Muslims in America. Some are poor, some are wealthy. Some are devout, some aren't so devout. Some are saints, some are sinners. Muslims are people, just like you and I. The good Muslim, which is the majority, seeks to better theirs, and others lives around them. Don't let the extremists paint your view of many good people. Don't let the fact that third world dictatorships use the Muslim religions blind you to how terrible Christianity was when it was tied to the king. In short, religious people should be showing support and care for the Muslims in our community.

Irritated
I am a Muslim WHITE AMERICAN who can trace family roots back to the 13 original colonies you idiot. This is my country. Accept it.

sassypants
Sick and evil! I will never trust them. I will forever remember Nic, Daniel Pearl, and the victims of 09.11 and countless others who have died at the hands of these monsters. I am angry at whoever created this mess by allowing this cult in the door. Immigration control – Yesterday!!

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Islam • Michigan

soundoff (822 Responses)
  1. Blogs-Clearly for Idiots!

    If one sees the light of Islam, then decides to shut their eyes to it, what is the penalty? Is it death? If so, are tenants or at least a single tenant of Islam completely contrary to the ideal of Freedom of Religion? Personally, I think the majority of so-called American Christians could learn a lot from Islam in the form of charity and generosity; however, I would say that Freedom of Religion is truly important too.

    March 30, 2011 at 5:48 am |
  2. Najeeb

    Before you talk about shria law you should learn about it. Shria is more culture than anything. I also ask you this actually read the Quran before you go condeming the entire religion.

    March 30, 2011 at 5:29 am |
    • ASM

      Did you go to the link?? And see where the 14 yr old girl was lashed to death according to those laws???

      March 30, 2011 at 5:36 am |
    • ASM

      Also... I'm not saying the Quran is wrong/bad.. but when peoples interpretations of holy books cause others deaths by stoning/lashing.. the people are wrong.. jihad is wrong.. even if it is only so called radicals.. in a Muslim nation other beliefs are not tolerated.. you're gonna have to expect some kind of backlash in other cultures

      March 30, 2011 at 5:43 am |
    • Lee

      That must be why there are muslims in England wanting a muslim parliament and sharia law. It is just a cultural thing. No it is not. Muslims are deliberately alienating themselves and then using our anti-discrimination laws to get their way. If the day ever comes when Muslim laws hold sway in the west then non-Muslims who defend them and converts will see how truly intolerant this religion is.

      March 30, 2011 at 7:18 pm |
  3. RealAmerican

    It's amazing how some of you say we don't want them in our country. I grew up with a neighbor who was born in Chicago and was a Muslim and he and his family were totally normal. And I went to high school with another Pakistani Muslim kid who was born in Chicago and he went on to west point and has served 7 combat tours in the Gulf. He is a battlefield surgeon in a forward surgical team and he has saved more American lives than any of you. Maybe if you weren't so ignorant you would take the time to learn a thing or two about things you know nothing about. Muslims are a big part of this great country and if they all vanished tomorrow American would suffer. They are our garbagemen, mailmen, police, doctors, lawyers, plumbers, bankers and even our soldiers defending this great country and what it stands for. You ignorant people need to do something to open your eyes like maybe see the world or go to college. Or perhaps just travel north of the Mason-Dixon line!!!!

    March 30, 2011 at 5:05 am |
    • ASM

      I would hardly call .8%-2.6% of our nations population a 'big' part of our great nation...

      March 30, 2011 at 5:31 am |
    • Blogs-Clearly for Idiots!

      For a second there you made sense, then you turned it into somethings it's not...a North vs South thing. I have an idea, why don't YOU travel before you make such ridiculous accusations. I have a funny idea your exposure to the South is from TV and the internet...Both sources, always accurate!?!?!? Yes. I live south of the Mason Dixon line, I've lived in the Western United States and I have also lived north of the Mason Dixon line. Without a doubt, I found the people of Boston and Denver as racist as the people of South Georgia...Sometime the practice was more subtle; however, the same ignorant intent, language, violence, and other activity was also there.

      March 30, 2011 at 5:53 am |
  4. Thumb

    I think people need to learn a lot about history and tolerance. Genghis Khan did plenty of warfare and killing that had nothing to do with religion, so did the Native Americans before we came, the Barbarians of Europe, the ancient Asians, the Aborigines, the Mayans, there are plenty of examples of peoples who massacred and went to war that had nothing to do with religion. As far as the Muslims go we are supposed to be built on Freedom of Religion, but we want alienate a Religion, these same people that want do that are the main ones complaining about gun control, and suppressing of free speech, Hypocrites.

    March 30, 2011 at 3:27 am |
  5. Priyath

    Islam means peace! so says the Muslims

    March 30, 2011 at 3:26 am |
  6. ASM

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/29/bangladesh.lashing.death/index.html .... how about Muslims wanting to practice sharia in the US?? A religion that forces women to do what they are told takes away basic freedoms that this country is based on from these women.. a religion with little tolerance for others beliefs and their rights to their beliefs has no place in the world today.. how about Christians being persecuted in Muslim countries?? Murdered even... I don't care what a Muslim believes.. but those beliefs should never turn into actions that infringe on other peoples freedoms, beliefs, or even their lives.. basically, being a Muslim in the US is a contradiction as you cannot truly have free speech as a Muslim along with other basic freedoms and liberties we are privileged to have in the US

    March 30, 2011 at 3:19 am |
    • Najeeb

      That is a complete lie shria law is more culture than anything. I ask you this actually read the Quran before you critized our religion as bad. Since I am a muslium

      March 30, 2011 at 5:27 am |
  7. Legion

    I hope "Armageddon" comes soon, so you will ALL be silenced. You are all religious...therefore, you are all wrong. Violence changes everything...and death will finally silence all of you, slaves who, bow-down and get on your knees, like morons...and bring you idiots together. One big pile of, blind, bowing dead slaves.

    March 30, 2011 at 3:13 am |
    • BG

      Ask you mom to read you a night-time story. Maybe it'll help you sleep.

      Course there's always Ambien.

      March 30, 2011 at 3:23 am |
  8. Calvin Hobbes

    Many have come to America to practice freedom of religion. The U.S. is unlike any other nation in history which has come before it, many were tolerant of multiple religions, many were brutally oppressive promoting only one religion. The U.S. is the only nation which dares state, "In God we trust." as we are, "One nation under God." All the other nations still don't believe we really say this, to them we seem questionable in taking such a stance.

    March 30, 2011 at 2:56 am |
    • Adnsaalsdfilasdofilaks

      You need the "giftie" to see yourself as others see you. Then you'd wonder at how religion is so insane yet so many believe without question the dictates of people who wrote insane things long ago.

      March 30, 2011 at 3:06 am |
  9. TheBroker

    Direct your frustration and vitriolic BS towards your radical Imams and extremist Muslim brothers and sisters. They're the reason you're being scrutinized.

    March 30, 2011 at 2:39 am |
  10. Steve

    Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslim. The crackling noise and sweet smell of a burning Muslim baby is intoxicating. Allahu Akbar!

    March 30, 2011 at 2:36 am |
    • Corpsman Steve

      I assume you are trolling, but in case you aren't: Basque seperatists are Muslims? The IRA? What about the Unibomber? You do realize the the guy responsible for sending all those letters with anthrax in them was a white American working for the federal government, do you not?

      March 30, 2011 at 2:40 am |
    • BG

      Your examples are of otherwise aberrant drops of water in a bucket.

      The bucket is Islam.

      March 30, 2011 at 3:26 am |
    • Mommamia

      Timothy McVay was a Muslim?!!!! Wow! The KKK are all Muslims? If I recall they instilled terror in many communities here in this nation.

      March 30, 2011 at 4:25 am |
  11. Carl

    Throghout history, as well as in our lifetime, many deaths and wars have roots in religious beliefs. It doesn't seem to matter which religion. So how do humans justify killing each other in the name of ______? (Fill in the blank per your religion.)

    March 30, 2011 at 2:31 am |
  12. gordon atl

    There are radicals in every religion. That doesn't make the religion bad. So there are more terrorists on our tv that are Muslim. So what? There are more Muslims in the world so of course there will be more Muslim extremists. I know someone who is Muslim who went to Mecca. He said it was the most peaceful place he'd ever been. People were pious and well-mannered. Christians have done some very barbaric things, as have other groups. As a matter of fact, without Muslims, the world would be vastly different. Goodbye to astrology, algebra, the wheel, agriculture, code of war, etc.

    March 30, 2011 at 2:28 am |
    • Adnsaalsdfilasdofilaks

      Yet the religion is bad anyway. As are they all. All of you would gladly kill us all as your different religions hack away at each other. You have no honesty, no truth to your religions. You use your religions to kill because that's how your religions were set up in the old days. Most people just want to live their lives peacefully, but with religion, they can be fooled into doing anything at all, like going to war or doing insane things as a group.
      It's about group identlty. Your religion is a group-ID. It projects itself according to the dictates of those who "interpret" it that way. It is entirely circular and ridiculous, yet it has worked for thousands of years.
      But insanity is insanity. Without religion, the religious-based motivations would stop and only the plain, unadorned mental problems would show up. It is also a way to weed out ALL people who are a danger to others.
      You put words above what is right and do not see how insane this is.

      March 30, 2011 at 3:01 am |
    • Corpsman Steve

      @ ADN.... One of the things that I dislike about members of so many established churches are their intolerance towards other. But it is not limited to them. From your comments, I assume you are an athiest. Ashiests are just as intolerant towards others as many Christians and Muslims. It may not manifest itself in same violent actions (with the exception of places like the USSR and China,where it was actually quite common to see oppression towards any religious faith), but that is because atheism is still a fringe ideology in most of the world, so atheists don't have the same power to mobilize large armed forces into holy wars. But the intolerance is there none the less. You are just as closed off to anything some who is a member of a religion as they are to you. The tone and word usage of your posts attests to this. The world will not know true peace until we can all have open dialogue, without the crutch of preconceived dislike or distrust, and atheists are as much a roadblock to this as are Islam, Christianity, or any other group.

      March 30, 2011 at 3:32 am |
    • Mark Yelka

      God is imaginary and people who believe in god are delusional. They don't like being told they're delusional. When asked to prove their belief, they can't. Of course not. Because god is imaginary.

      Delusional people can be dangerous. But because they can hide behind "freedom of religion," they're not called mentally impaired. They're called people of strong faith. It's sad that humanity has not outgrown this delusion.

      March 30, 2011 at 5:37 am |
    • American Atheist

      I've met Christians and Muslims who would defend my religious freedoms just as I would defend theirs. Most people believe in treating others as they would like to be treated.

      March 30, 2011 at 5:57 am |
  13. Jermaine

    Christian use to hang people from trees. All I see in america is a big contridiction. Americas are so ignorant they wont even study the quran or read it. To see what it says then they say islam is violent while the bible has plenty of violence itself. Peace

    March 30, 2011 at 2:12 am |
    • Corpsman Steve

      You are criticizing Americans for lumping all Muslims in with terrorists, yet you lump all Americans in with these hypocrites? I know plenty of Americans who are like this at all.

      March 30, 2011 at 2:22 am |
  14. TheBroker

    Who said all Muslims are terrorists? If radical Islam has no place being investigated in the Muslim community, than pedophilia has no place being investigated in the clergy.

    March 30, 2011 at 2:05 am |
    • Corpsman Steve

      You investigate individuals in the community. Just as Christianity (and I am a Christian, by the way) condems pedophilia, so does the true Muslim faith condemn terrorism. During the crusades the Christian faith was hijacked by the Pope and his cronies and used as a means of controlling the people to satisfy their own violent way. The same thing is happening today with Islam, and it is not a true representation of their faith. And please don't bother quoting passages from the Quran, because for every "violent" verse you find, I can provide you with one from my Bible that is equally violent or that condones the public execution of people who don't follow my faith, or that restricts women from speaking in public. This alienation of Muslims only worsens this problem, as it provides fodder for those extremists to recruit new members. If Jesus were here today, he would invite his Muslim neighbors over for dinner, as he would with the gay couple down the street. Afterall, he did exactly that back then, did he not?

      March 30, 2011 at 2:19 am |
    • Adnsaalsdfilasdofilaks

      2Steve: Are you seriously trying to bring forth some "Christian" change in thought after two thousand years of the same old crap? Or maybe you think that Islam just needs to be more like Christianity?

      March 30, 2011 at 2:51 am |
    • BG

      @ TheBroker

      You seem to have misquoted me.

      I said all Muslims are -potential- terrorists.

      March 30, 2011 at 3:20 am |
  15. American Atheist

    I'm an American Atheist and will fight for the rights of any religious group in this country. Without freedom of religion, America would be something different than it is now. What freedom would fall next? Hate is the real enemy here and those who now hate Muslims have met the first prerequisite for becoming a terrorist themselves.

    March 30, 2011 at 2:01 am |
    • Abdulameer

      This is just ignorant. Does it really make no difference to you that the doctrines of Islam promote violent religious bigotry and hatred, especially toward atheists?

      March 30, 2011 at 2:17 am |
    • Adnsaalsdfilasdofilaks

      This is a case of overreaching in your intent. You seek to defend, yet what you defend is attacking you. What is your solution?
      Who knows how long you have before death comes at you so fast you have nothing to say about it...!
      But that is fearmongering perhaps. Yet wouldn't it be the intelligent thing to evaluate the motives by which they live in that sub-culture of religious expression?

      March 30, 2011 at 2:40 am |
    • BG

      Just another sad, confused atheist promoting the typically conflicted liberal agenda.

      Bug ger off, bucky.

      March 30, 2011 at 3:18 am |
    • American Atheist

      Yes, freedom of religion includes the right to believe and hate whoever and whatever you want. You're free to hate as many people as you like. Beliefs are seperate from actions. No one has the right to commit violent crime in this country. People from all religions live here in relative peace because we protect each other's rights and prosecute those who commit crimes. How many American Muslims have committed violent acts against Athiests in the US? It seems like a much bigger problem is the growing religious intolerance towards Muslims.

      March 30, 2011 at 4:53 am |
  16. TheBroker

    ..."when all those abortion doctors were put on notice for death"? What, all 50-100 of them? C'mon... You don't actually believe that's a valid comparison do you? Radical islam has overtly threatened the lives of several hundred million "infidels".

    March 30, 2011 at 1:58 am |
  17. Corpsman Steve

    If all Muslims are terrorists, than all Catholics are pedophiles. I have served with many practicing Muslims who love America.

    March 30, 2011 at 1:55 am |
  18. TheBroker

    Todd... No one cares. This isn't an abortion debate. Pro-lifers aren't trying to infiltrate and conquer an entire populace by way of violence. So you're a strong proponent of abortion... What does that have to do with the threat of radical islam?

    March 30, 2011 at 1:51 am |
  19. TheBroker

    1700 years of forced Christian conversion and apologize to the natives and african americans? Laughable at best... Trying to justify the barbaric acts of Muslims today with the archaic acts of the past (hundreds if not thousands of years ago) speaks volumes about the uncivilized character of the population we're dealing with here.

    March 30, 2011 at 1:43 am |
  20. JC

    there are two forces in this world. Good and evil,which side are you on?

    March 30, 2011 at 1:41 am |
    • Q

      Were it only that simple...

      March 30, 2011 at 3:08 am |
    • ICWorld

      muslims are not worth fighting for. They don't belong in the USA ever. Never trust a muslim is the golden rule now. If you don't like that rule then leave. If you like muslims then you should leave and go live in their crap land. It's good to know that these terrorist are able to make bombs and blow themselves up. They can do that all day for what I care. As long as they do it over in their country and leave the USA alone. As for any of their crap mosques on our land those should be used as target practice by the military. muslims are not people they are nothing more than animals that need to put out of the worlds misery.

      March 30, 2011 at 6:05 am |
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