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Your take: Is American Muslim alienation valid?
Mohammad Ali Elahi, the imam at the Islamic House of Wisdom in Dearborn Heights, Michigan.
March 28th, 2011
05:07 PM ET

Your take: Is American Muslim alienation valid?

Lots of provocative comments on our story about Muslims in one of the country's biggest and oldest Muslim enclaves feeling alienated in their own country. Many commenters are critical of American Muslims; many others sympathetic and supportive.

But the responses are all over the map and largely defy such easy categorization.

Here's a sampling:

Joe from Kalispell
The fact there is even a "Muslim Enclave" is scary. They already wanted to be separate to not be "polluted by American values." They are really pushing their First Amendment right because I am sure the Founding Fathers didn't mean to afford protection to a religion so opposed to our existence as is Islam.

JustAHuman
It is sad to see so much hate in this country and little education about other cultures and religions. In many instances we "Americans" bring destructions upon ourselves and we are blind to see why.

joe
These Muslims are safer in this country than anywhere else in the world. if they think they are unsafe here let them leave.

freeddoom
If you are really sick of them, then don't buy their oil, don't invade their countries, dont kill them, don't steal their land, don't prop up dictators to take their freedom away. I bet they have more reason to be sick of you buddy.

Maya
Islam literally means "submission" to God. Therefore, any human being that submits himself to God is considered to be following "Islam." what that means is, if you are a christian, who submits yourself to God, then you are in fact upholding Islam. You really do have to put the verse into context and understand the exact meanings. Here are a few verse for you to ponder upon:

"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians – whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

Kat
Reality, funny because the terrorists never say they do in the name of Islam or to convert people to Islam or force Islam on America. They only complain about the hostile US policies and wars, and its support to Israeli atrocities, many supporters belong to religious  believers who want to see Armageddon and end of the world.

I know the media and politicians tell you that it's all about religion to mute any serious discussion of the root cause of terror.

Wirius
I am not a Muslim. I am APPALLED at the people who profess to faith in God, their ignorant accusations against the Muslim population in America. There are millions of Muslims in America. Some are poor, some are wealthy. Some are devout, some aren't so devout. Some are saints, some are sinners. Muslims are people, just like you and I. The good Muslim, which is the majority, seeks to better theirs, and others lives around them. Don't let the extremists paint your view of many good people. Don't let the fact that third world dictatorships use the Muslim religions blind you to how terrible Christianity was when it was tied to the king. In short, religious people should be showing support and care for the Muslims in our community.

Irritated
I am a Muslim WHITE AMERICAN who can trace family roots back to the 13 original colonies you idiot. This is my country. Accept it.

sassypants
Sick and evil! I will never trust them. I will forever remember Nic, Daniel Pearl, and the victims of 09.11 and countless others who have died at the hands of these monsters. I am angry at whoever created this mess by allowing this cult in the door. Immigration control – Yesterday!!

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Islam • Michigan

soundoff (822 Responses)
  1. M.

    To clarify, there is not a single "Muslim country" on the face of the earth right now.
    There are countries in which many Muslims reside, but a country that follows Islam and implements Sharia in its totality does not exist.

    Among other misconceptions: forced marriages are not valid; Muslims like hamburgers and football too; having and obtaining knowledge is an obligatory upon every Muslim; The "Ramadan Myth" in which Muhammad was fasting in a cave is nonexistent anywhere other than BG's mind. The actual significance behind Ramadan has to do with the revelation of the first verses of the Quran to Muhammad. I've never read that he was fasting at the time or a time period of 30 days had anything to do with it.

    And about "Muslims not speaking out against extremism," please clarify exactly what you want them to do. I'm not really making a point to the above statement, but rather, just trying to CLEARLY understand what many Americans want and mean by this.
    Every Imam I've ever come across has addressed the problem and encouraged moderation time and time again with his congregation.

    Lastly, I think it's important for all of us to know that in the Quran, no two meanings are the same. The Quran was not compiled at one time, but rather, revealed over the course of 23 years.
    If you choose to believe that God revealed it to Muhammad over that period of time, that is fine. But you may also believe that Muhammad came up with the Quran on his own, and I respect that opinion as well as long as that is the conclusion you have derived from your own research from authentic sources. Nevertheless, the Quran was revealed to companions and people around Muhammad in verses, not all at once.
    Each verse fits into the context of when it was revealed. Some verses (pl. ayaat; sing.ayah) are applicable to all time periods, and some only to very specific situations and time periods.
    Non-believers/infidels etc. can refer to many different people. It could be in reference to the polytheists in early Arabia who tortured and killed many of the earlier followers of Islam, or individuals who poisoned water sources and food and killed women and children. How can one take that and apply it to all Americans/Christians?

    Anti-Islam websites don't count as sources one uses to "educate" himself or herself on Islam.

    March 30, 2011 at 9:10 am |
  2. WWRRD

    Newsweek did a survey after 9-11. More than 35% of college age US Muslims felt the 9-11 attacks , and other bombings were a justified tactic. US Muslims may not be terrorists themselves but many of them are entirely sympathetic with radical objectives. That is itself part of the problem and a reason that non-muslim american are so distrustful and frightened of this "peaceful faith".

    March 30, 2011 at 9:07 am |
  3. Ali

    I am a Muslim. I was born and raised in Bourbonnais, IL. I am a Chicago Bears fan. I consider myself a devout Muslim, and have 3 young kids that we are raising as devout Muslims. My kids are only alolowed to use the word hate when referring to the Green Bay Packers. And I can tell you that when comparing myself and my family to the American Muslim community, my family and I are in the majority. It is easy for hateful, murderous people all over the world to interpret Islam or any religion and its teachings in a way to fit their own mentality and morals. And it is even easier for those people to recieve media attention. Their self-concieved perceptions of the "west" and America are as flawed as many Americans' perceprions of Muslims and Islam. This world would be a much better place if we could all learn to love each other, and hate the Packers.

    March 30, 2011 at 9:07 am |
    • Mr. Dog

      Huzzah! ...Except the part about the Packers. Go Pats!

      March 30, 2011 at 9:18 am |
  4. Huzzah!

    doesn't anyone see the parallel between what is being put on the muslims to how jewish people were slandered and demonized in germany and blamed for all the ills?? what is your plan? want to get rid of all muslims? hypocrits

    March 30, 2011 at 9:01 am |
    • hayfield

      Do you see the parallel between what Hitler did to the Jews and what Muslims are trying to do to the world.

      March 30, 2011 at 9:09 am |
    • Mr. Dog

      Uhhh.... No. I don't.

      March 30, 2011 at 9:17 am |
    • Renny

      The difference is the world would be a better place without the muslims in it.

      March 30, 2011 at 10:45 am |
    • Muneef

      Runney.

      Well maybe it is time for yours to shoot to Mars and leave earth for those ignorant Muslims....

      March 30, 2011 at 4:29 pm |
  5. rkm63

    Islam and Sharia is everything America is not and thank God Americans get it. Not rocket science. LOL

    March 30, 2011 at 8:47 am |
  6. Renny

    I spent 20 months in Iraq. I trust no muslim any further than I can throw them. I trust devout muslims even less.

    March 30, 2011 at 8:26 am |
    • Muneef

      Just hope you do trust in your self first...

      March 30, 2011 at 4:26 pm |
  7. sassypants

    sassypants. they are protecting against themselve from your laundered propoganda and becuase your weapons are making genocide in Palastine.

    March 30, 2011 at 8:10 am |
  8. AndyF

    I guess I question the continued validation of what very well can be equated to fairy tales as far as the reliance on faith that ancient doctrines are true, be them Christian, Muslim, Judaic, Hindu. I don't question the benefits those religions have had for individuals lost in this world or looking for something more than the reality that confonts them everyday, but I do have concerns over-reliance on such doctrines has done nothing but cause larger misery for the world. For centuries Christians murdered non-believers or those who didn't worship Christ the way whatever established (worldly based) church ruled at the time wanted people to worship. Presently, the fundamental fringe of Christianity at least in the US has been nothing but a draining force on both national and human progress. So I guess what I am saying is I have a really hard time being critical of Muslims when Christianity itself refuses to deal with the negative impacts it has had and continues to have on this country and civilization as a whole over the centuries. Not to say religious-based nations are a problem, China is probably one of the grossest offenders to civilization right now as far as lowering the standards of what hardworking people should expect from their efforts. What the opening of China and how nations like the US allow them to undercut all the progress made for the human race under industrialization is as large if not a larger problem than radical Christians and radical Muslims, and like radical Christians, China too needs to be grouped with the things threatening the very foundations of this country, and perhaps civilization as a whole.

    March 30, 2011 at 8:01 am |
  9. Gwashington

    80 % of our inmates r Christian. Not one terrorist attack in 9 years by a Muslim. Not one terrorist attack by a Muslim americAn ever.

    I think u r over reacting or fake Americans/ Israelis.

    March 30, 2011 at 7:55 am |
    • teepee

      white fear man...

      March 30, 2011 at 8:27 am |
    • Frederica

      @Gwa-, that's because 80% of Americans claim to be "Christian" though most in rich nations are hedonists by nature. Whatever happens with Muslims in USA, be ready for God's chastisement for American moral decadence. No nation is exempt from judgment.

      March 30, 2011 at 8:53 am |
  10. Joe Schmuck

    Religion is going to be the downfall of this planet.

    There is no God, Allah, or any other name you want to attach to some imaginary being.

    Those who believe in the nonsense of religion are weak and gullible.

    March 30, 2011 at 7:51 am |
    • Renny

      Then why do they outnumber you??? Since you are in the minority, you must be genetically defective, since you are not the "norm."

      March 30, 2011 at 8:24 am |
    • Andy

      @ Renny

      Because the ignorant will always outnumber the smart, well-educated in any society. It always has and always will. History shows this.

      March 30, 2011 at 8:55 am |
  11. jamie

    "Greeted by 1000 virgins". Did they stop & think that maybe there are none remaining after the first thousand men died? Not a renewabe resource you know..
    Tis a shame. All that effort & no reward. LOL...

    March 30, 2011 at 7:34 am |
  12. Eumir

    WORTH REPEATING.....
    When the Muslim community in this country, or any country, publicly speak out against the actions of their extremeists, hatred and distrust of Muslims will wane. Let's hear it....!

    March 30, 2011 at 7:33 am |
    • teepee

      That's bullsugar...white people are afraid of anyone that aint white...your people better learn that...They will NEVER accept you as an equal...NEVER...

      March 30, 2011 at 8:29 am |
    • Mr. Dog

      Yet it doesn't mean that they are not equals. We are all equals.

      March 30, 2011 at 9:10 am |
  13. HelenHull 102951

    My take on this subject is that if they want to practice their religon of "HATE" and that all that are not of the muslim faith must be persuaded to change or they must be "DESTROYED" then let them go back to teir own countries to do so, and as for the American-Muslim population give them a choice of what other country they want to go to practice the words of hate and destruction of our country and our people.. It's common knowledge that "EVERY BOMB AND EVERY CELL IS OF MUSLIM FAITH". And that is true of every attack all over the world!!! We as Americans need to feel safe in our country, and the same goes for the mexican immigrents that are here illeagly. (CLOSE OUR BORDERS, THEN CLEAN OUR COUNTRY OF THESE PEOPLE; BOTH!!!)

    March 30, 2011 at 7:31 am |
  14. religion kills

    Mankind will never do anything worth a crap until we get rid of religion. We are too busy fighting and killing eachother over who has the better imaginary friend and if you think I'm wrong about the imaginary part go ahead and kill yourself and see if god is real

    March 30, 2011 at 7:14 am |
  15. Rebecca

    There main goal is to take over the world. You are blind if you cannot see this.

    March 30, 2011 at 7:12 am |
    • teepee

      no dearheart...what you see is fear...and unlike the old days when you kept blacks down...you can't do that this time...non white people are on the rise.

      March 30, 2011 at 8:30 am |
    • Mr. Dog

      Who told you that? Did you find their secret charter? They all act as a single group with a hive mind? Is that like "all the gays just want to convert the straights" or "all blacks are criminals" or "all Irish are drunks"? It appears that you have fallen victim to the terrorist plot of believing stereotypes. Portraying a religious or ethnic group in a single way is simply ignorant. People are people. It's as simple as that.

      I work with more than a few of "them", and all they want is to make a living and go home to their families.

      March 30, 2011 at 9:07 am |
  16. Bob in Texas

    The US is a melting pot not an collection of isolated groups. Multi-culturalism has failed everywhere peoples did not intergrate. If the majority of the people within a geographic region do not like the dogma of a specific group it is natural for them to alienate that outlier and even force them out. It has been done that way for thousands of years. Must be human nature.

    March 30, 2011 at 7:03 am |
    • bam

      Mostly driven by the ignorant bible belt fear mongers.

      Lack of Education and spreading fear through religion is an ancient custom, UNSURE why it still exists in a socalled MODERN country such as the United States. Idiocracy is a movie of sad truth

      March 30, 2011 at 9:01 am |
  17. Rich

    The quran parrallels the Bible; however, Armageddon in the quran is brought about by jihad – the slaughtering of infidels (those who do not bow to Muhammad). If you are a believer of another God, they have the option to tax you instead of killing you – key word is "option."When I was young, I heard adults saying, "no one could ever overthrough America at her borders, they'd have to take her from inside." They are inside. I have nothing against Muslims as human beings, however, if jihad comes to pass in the US and Muslims have to stand with the quran or be slaughtered as infidels, wha do you think even the most peaceful Muslim will do? Remember Hitler's followers. Read the quran yourself and do not be ignorant of it's teachings. Many have committed horrible acts in the name of Christianity, however such atrosities are condemned by the Bible. They are taught in the quran.

    March 30, 2011 at 6:47 am |
    • Renny

      You forgot to mention that the atrocities committed in the name of christianity are centuries old. Let's see, when was the last atrocity committed in the name of islam.........yesterday????

      March 30, 2011 at 8:23 am |
    • teepee

      Renny, are you so quick to forget...the modern day attrocities of the white man in THIS nation? Tim McV. , Unibomber, David Koresh, the guy that eats people (he's dead now), all the white date rapists, ponzi schemers? ect ect...

      March 30, 2011 at 8:33 am |
    • Renny

      teepee, "white man" is not a religion.

      March 30, 2011 at 10:36 am |
    • Muneef

      It is an Ego but whether an Ego is as same as any religion,that's for you to find out,kkk.

      March 30, 2011 at 4:21 pm |
  18. JACK THE LAD

    WEB IV – I agree 100%

    March 30, 2011 at 6:46 am |
  19. WEB IV

    When the Muslim community in this country, or any country, publicly speak out against the actions of their extremeists, hatred and distrust of Muslims will wane. Let's hear it. Until then, keep them far away from me.

    March 30, 2011 at 6:17 am |
    • Muneef

      What about yours?

      March 30, 2011 at 6:43 am |
    • Sam

      They have. Again and again. Countless Imams and mullahs and whatchamacallits have come out against the violence. The fact that you don't see their efforts in big bold letters with a picture at the top of Cnn.com isn't their fault.

      March 30, 2011 at 8:04 am |
    • Reality

      What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon? And what drives today's 24/7 mosque/imam-driven acts of terror and horror? The koran, Mohammed's book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means. Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed. Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein. Until then, no male Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere..................................

      March 30, 2011 at 8:26 am |
    • Muneef

      Al-Mumtahina sura 06:
      In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
      O ye who believe! Choose not My enemy and your enemy for friends. Do ye give them friendship when they disbelieve in that truth which hath come unto you, driving out the messenger and you because ye believe in Allah, your Lord? If ye have come forth to strive in My way and seeking My good pleasure, (show them not friendship). Do ye show friendship unto them in secret, when I am best aware of what ye hide and what ye proclaim? And whosoever doeth it among you, he verily hath strayed from the right way. (1) If they have the upper hand of you, they will be your foes, and will stretch out their hands and their tongues toward you with evil (intent), and they long for you to disbelieve. (2) Your ties of kindred and your children will avail you naught upon the Day of Resurrection. He will part you. Allah is Seer of what ye do. (3).

      March 30, 2011 at 4:17 pm |
  20. Muneef

    Al-Anaam sura 06:
    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    And though We should send down the angels unto them, and the dead should speak unto them, and We should gather against them all things in array, they would not believe unless Allah so willed. Howbeit, most of them are ignorant. (111) Thus have We appointed unto every prophet an adversary – devils of humankind and jinn who inspire in one another plausible discourse through guile. If thy Lord willed, they would not do so; so leave them alone with their devising; (112) That the hearts of those who believe not in the Hereafter may incline thereto, and that they may take pleasure therein, and that they may earn what they are earning. (113) Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when He it is Who hath revealed unto you (this) Scripture, fully explained? Those unto whom We gave the Scripture (aforetime) know that it is revealed from thy Lord in truth. So be not thou (O Muhammad) of the waverers. (114) Perfected is the Word of thy Lord in truth and justice. There is naught that can change His words. He is the Hearer, the Knower. (115) If thou obeyedst most of those on earth they would mislead thee far from Allah's way. They follow naught but an opinion, and they do but guess. (116) Lo! thy Lord, He knoweth best who erreth from His way; and He knoweth best (who are) the rightly guided. (117).

    March 30, 2011 at 6:08 am |
    • Muneef

      Al-Rad sura 13:
      Those who believe and do right: Joy is for them, and bliss (their) journey's end. (29) Thus We send thee (O Muhammad) unto a nation, before whom other nations have passed away, that thou mayst recite unto them that which We have inspired in thee, while they are disbelievers in the Beneficent. Say: He is my Lord; there is no God save Him. In Him do I put my trust and unto Him is my recourse. (30) Had it been possible for a Lecture to cause the mountains to move, or the earth to be torn asunder, or the dead to speak, (this Qur'an would have done so). Nay, but Allah's is the whole command. Do not those who believe know that, had Allah willed, He could have guided all mankind? As for those who disbelieve, disaster ceaseth not to strike them because of what they do, or it dwelleth near their home until the threat of Allah come to pass. Lo! Allah faileth not to keep the tryst. (31).

      Al-Naml sura 27:
      Lo! this Qur'an narrateth unto the Children of Israel most of that concerning which they differ. (76) And lo! it is a guidance and a mercy for believers. (77) Lo! thy Lord will judge between them of His wisdom, and He is the Mighty, the Wise. (78) Therefor (O Muhammad) put thy trust in Allah, for thou (standest) on the plain Truth. (79) Lo! thou canst not make the dead to hear, nor canst thou make the deaf to hear the call when they have turned to flee; (80) Nor canst thou lead the blind out of their error. Thou canst make none to hear, save those who believe Our revelations and who have surrendered. (81).

      Fussilat sura 41:
      Lo! those who distort Our revelations are not hid from Us. Is he who is hurled into the Fire better, or he who cometh secure on the Day of Resurrection? Do what ye will. Lo! He is Seer of what ye do. (40) Lo! those who disbelieve in the Reminder when it cometh unto them (are guilty), for lo! it is an unassailable Scripture. (41) Falsehood cannot come at it from before it or behind it. (It is) a revelation from the Wise, the Owner of Praise. (42) Naught is said unto thee (Muhammad) save what was said unto the messengers before thee. Lo! thy Lord is owner of forgiveness, and owner (also) of dire punishment. (43) And if We had appointed it a Lecture in a foreign tongue they would assuredly have said: If only its verses were expounded (so that we might understand)? What! A foreign tongue and an Arab? – Say unto them (O Muhammad): For those who believe it is a guidance and a healing; and as for those who disbelieve, there is a deafness in their ears, and it is blindness for them. Such are called to from afar. (44).

      March 30, 2011 at 6:25 am |
    • Reality

      In the name of Mueef's Allah:

      "Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later."

      March 30, 2011 at 8:24 am |
    • Reality

      What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon? And what drives today's 24/7 mosque/imam-driven acts of terror and horror? The koran, Mohammed's book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means. Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed. Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein. Until then, no Muslim to include Muneef can be trusted anytime or anywhere..................................

      March 30, 2011 at 8:26 am |
    • bam

      Christian Taliban way....
      INSTILL FEAR.
      CONTROL THE PEOPLE.
      BANISH OR KILL ALL UNBELIEVERS.

      March 30, 2011 at 8:55 am |
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