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March 29th, 2011
12:43 PM ET

Pot shop opens near Michigan church, school

From CNN affiliate WEYI.

A medical marijuana dispensary moves in across the street from a Catholic Church and school in Owosso.

Now city council is considering a new ordinance that would make this illegal.

NBC25 talked to the business owner who wants to remain anonymous for fear of retaliation, and some parishioners about what should be done to resolve the controversy.

On M-21 in Owosso you'll find a place where kids go to school and across the street a place to find medical marijuana.

Read the full story about the pot shop controversy at ConnectMidMichigan.com
- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Michigan

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  1. halhiker

    If the church actually followed the teaching of the Scriptures they would be supporting the use of marijuana instead of being against it. ALL things created by God are good if used according to His purpose.

    March 29, 2011 at 10:11 pm |
  2. Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

    @HS: have you ever had cancer? Been on chemo? Unable to eat without constant nausea?

    Then just shut yer trap.

    March 29, 2011 at 9:32 pm |
  3. Ken Kesey

    All drugs should be legalized, subject to exactly the same limitations of alcohol. The prohibition of drugs has been every bit as bad a failure as the prohibition of alcohol. If you legalized all drugs,

    – Drug gangs and the drug trade would wither away and die.

    – Prison populations would radically decrease.

    – Instead of spending massive amounts on money catching and imprisoning drug criminals, you would instead make money by taxing all the drugs, just like alcohol. Huge financial benefits for America.

    – There would be more lucrative work for farmers and distribution people in America, and the violent drug lords in other countries would give way to business people.

    – As evidenced by the experience of the Prohibition, there would be no long-term increase in drug use (there would be a temporary spike in the use of some drugs). Face it: the people who want drugs already get them. Laws have no impact on whether people drink or not, and didn't during the prohibition either. People who don't take drugs still won't.

    America will never do it, of course. We are far less free in our thinking and atti-tudes than we think we are. But every ounce of research and history implies that there would be no real change in use and addiction rates, and the financial benefits are huge and the reduction in crime significant.

    March 29, 2011 at 9:28 pm |
  4. Tony Aroma

    Apparently teaching compassion for the sick is not within the purview of this particular religion/church/school. Or is it just that sick people taking medicine is bad? Did I misread? Are these Christian Scientists that are complaining?

    March 29, 2011 at 7:51 pm |
  5. Reality

    The reason marijuana is a prescription drug and restricted to those who need to deal with pain but also need to be reminded by their doctors/pharmacists of the following potential side effects:

    "
    Impaired perception
    Diminished short-term memory
    Loss of concentration and coordination
    Impaired judgement
    Increased risk of accidents
    Loss of motivation
    Diminished inhibitions
    Increased heart rate
    Anxiety, panic attacks, and paranoia
    Hallucinations
    Damage to the respiratory, reproductive, and immune systems
    Increased risk of cancer
    Psychological dependency"

    From: http://www.acde.org/common/Marijana.htm

    Because of these potential side effects, one assumes federal, state and local officials restrict medical use of marijuana to the home and away from schools.

    March 29, 2011 at 6:17 pm |
    • Jess

      You cite a website that is extremely biased and about as credible as Fox News, Reality.
      Why bother looking for the truth when you seek out the liars?

      acde.org is an anti-drug website that uses lies, distortion, exaggeration, and other misleading tactics like most other anti-drug organizations. The anti-drug industry is known for playing fast and loose with the facts, which they do not like to use all that much.

      And since cannabis is listed as a Schedule 1 drug, it's almost impossible to get permission to study it.
      The vast majority of "info" out there is rank propaganda. There are people who hate anything that might make people feel good outside of church. They hate swimming pools because of people showing too much skin. They hate people who drink, people who smoke, people who want to go out dancing, people who use any form of medicine because it is against "God's natural plan for us".
      Those are the people you are going to for information, Reality. I really cannot express how strongly I feel about this. There are too many people, most of them religious, who cannot stand to see other people enjoying themselves or being happy unless it is in line with their own beliefs.

      If I could slap you upside the head I would.

      March 29, 2011 at 7:12 pm |
    • Magic

      Dihydrogen monoxide:

      * is called "hydroxyl acid", the substance is the major component of acid rain.
      * contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
      * may cause severe burns.
      * is fatal if inhaled.
      * contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
      * accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
      * may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
      * has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

      Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:

      * as an industrial solvent and coolant.
      * in nuclear power plants.
      * in the production of Styrofoam.
      * as a fire retardant.
      * in many forms of cruel animal research.
      * in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
      * as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.

      Ahem, guess what Dihydrogen monoxide is...?

      March 29, 2011 at 7:17 pm |
    • Ken Kesey

      So what was your point in discussing water?

      No, I did not have to look it up to know what it is.

      March 29, 2011 at 10:32 pm |
    • Manica

      I believe some of those warnings are on my marriage license and the bottle of Advil they gave me when I signed it..

      March 30, 2011 at 1:01 am |
  6. Ken Kesey

    Let's see, there have been no incidences of potsmokers burning witches or heretics, no incidences of potsmokers having inquisitions, no potsmoker wars against non-potsmokers or potsmokers who smoke a different strain of pot, no potsmokers getting into political office and using it to oppress non-potsmokers.

    Both religious people and potsmokers do get really warped ideas, but at least the potsmokers know they are thinking stoned thoughts.

    And I would far rather be at a dinner party with a stoney than an evangelical any day of the week. Though a potsmoker "dinner party" is usually a couple guys sitting on worn out couches watching SpongeBob and eating Cheetos.

    March 29, 2011 at 6:10 pm |
    • Mr. Sniffles

      That may be true, but there have been many incidences of potsmokers eating entire boxes of Cap'n Crunch at a sitting. There have been numerous instances of potsmokers giggling uncontrollably at things that are not funny. And let's face it, the Cartoon Network's description of its target market is "stoned."

      March 29, 2011 at 11:02 pm |
  7. doctore0

    The church is way more dangerous. Haven't you seen the news

    March 29, 2011 at 3:02 pm |
  8. Colin

    I see no reason why proximity to a church is even relevant. The nuaseating, simplistic garbage they are no doubt teaching the poor fools in the congregation is worse tha nanything in a pot shop.

    March 29, 2011 at 2:43 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      Because it's blasting in their face that other people don't agree with their nonsense.

      And that offends many christians because they realize that they really don't have a reason for believing in the bible. Just that they want to.

      March 29, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      I will pray for you Bobinator.
      Amen..

      March 29, 2011 at 3:43 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      And I'll think for you.

      March 29, 2011 at 7:01 pm |
    • Chris

      lol, ok Bobinator, you won me over with that one. Though you are both probably idiots! lol. 🙂

      March 29, 2011 at 10:49 pm |
  9. HeavenScent

    Fresh, greenish purple, sticky bud... ah, now thats HeavenScent...

    March 29, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
    • Spike

      Grow up. Using someone else's user name just shows you are still in grade school. What you don't realize is you just proved HeavenSent is right about people like you. Nice going proving her right idiot.

      March 29, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      > Grow up. Using someone else's user name just shows you are still in grade school.

      Not really, there is such a thing called parody. You might have seen it on Saturday Night Live.

      > What you don't realize is you just proved HeavenSent is right about people like you. Nice going proving her right idiot.

      You're Heavensent! I know this because you're referencing a concept that no one else should know about which was located in a different thread.

      Heaven, you're so sad it's hilarious.

      March 29, 2011 at 2:41 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      What would Spike have to know:
      – Heavensent is a female.
      – The post heavensent made today in a diffferent thread.

      Furthermore, if Spike was a different person, he/she/it would realize that no one would have a clue about Heavensent's statement and posted it. If, of course, you're the person posting about your own posting, that'd be easy to miss.

      Hilarious.

      March 29, 2011 at 2:44 pm |
    • Spike

      The Bobinator SNL is just plain mindless TV no wonder you can't come up with something thoughtful to say on this blog. No, I am not HeavenSent, I would have to shoot myself if I was. It's stupidity like yours that is a disgrace to the human mind.

      March 29, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      > The Bobinator SNL is just plain mindless TV no wonder you can't come up with something thoughtful to say on this blog. No, I am not HeavenSent, I would have to shoot myself if I was. It's stupidity like yours that is a disgrace to the human mind.

      It's not my cup of tea either, but you can't deny it's success and the success of things like Mad magazine which cater to the parody style of humour.

      What was I stupid about. I challenge you for an example.

      March 29, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
    • ScottK

      "Using someone else's user name just shows you are still in grade school. What you don't realize is you just proved HeavenSent is right about people like you. Nice going proving her right idiot."

      1. Where did they use someone elses name? I noticed a "C" in there which would change the meaning and enter the world of punny parody.
      2. Where did they "prove her right"? By making fun of HS they are...making fun of HS! Nothing more!

      March 29, 2011 at 3:01 pm |
  10. Maria

    Attacking sick people is wrong wrong wrong! Where is their "Christian love"? Why don't they welcome their neighbors instead of castigating them and doing their best to run them out of town?
    Jesus would be ashamed of them. What they are doing is wrong. Giving sick people medical marijuana is a good thing.

    I hope that everyone who hates helping sick people just because marijuana is involved gets CANCER and has to go through CHEMOTHERAPY and suffers because they drove away the people who wanted to help.

    So THERE!

    March 29, 2011 at 1:58 pm |
    • Steve-O

      That "So THERE!" did it for me. You win. I'm going to go find some medical marijuana....! 😉

      March 29, 2011 at 2:34 pm |
    • Robert E.

      Me too. It's hard to argue against a "So THERE!" like that.
      But when is the government going to reschedule marijuana?

      Their drug-classification scheme is stuck in the 1950s. Pot is classified as having no medical use after all these years despite dozens of states recognizing that cannabis has actual medical value.

      March 29, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
  11. Tannenbaum

    I do not trust Catholics around children. They are just trying to distract people from their own crimes. Pedopriests are evil.

    March 29, 2011 at 1:51 pm |
  12. shawn

    People are way too uptight.

    March 29, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
    • ScottK

      Which is why we need more dispensaries...

      March 29, 2011 at 2:31 pm |
  13. Eric

    I'm don't like my kids looking at the doughnut shop across the street from St. Paul's School. Everybody says the law is so complicated. It's not. Grow it. Buy it. Smoke it. Michigan voters passed the law. Get over it.

    March 29, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
  14. G Best

    Many drugs prescribed by doctors every day would be far more dangerous in the hands of a kid than marijuana yet if a CVS or Rite Aid opened across the street there would be no controversy.

    March 29, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
  15. HeavenSent

    This is the work of the Devil. They need to stop this.
    Amen..

    March 29, 2011 at 1:05 pm |
    • Tom R

      Yes. These complaints are the work of the Devil. You are correct. They need to stop attacking medical marijuana.
      The evil in their hearts is plain to see for anyone with God's love in their hearts. Attacking sick people is wrong.

      March 29, 2011 at 1:11 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Tom they need to turn to Jesus not pot for their sickness.
      Amen...

      March 29, 2011 at 1:21 pm |
    • Earthbound

      God created it so it to help with pain.

      March 29, 2011 at 1:26 pm |
    • chief

      putting Amen on the end of you stupid comments is appropriate..... it confirms the stupid comment....

      March 29, 2011 at 1:49 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      > Tom they need to turn to Jesus not pot for their sickness.

      Right. Perhaps you should work in a cancer care center like I do and then you'd know how asinine, thoughtless and stupid your comment is. People suffer incredibly and pot helps with patients eating when on chemo.

      I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the ignorance of someone who's only read one book.

      March 29, 2011 at 2:08 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Bobinator I disagree. They are not right in their walk or they have wickedness in their soul. Pot is not the answer, rather Jesus is.
      Praise Him..

      March 29, 2011 at 2:18 pm |
    • PraiseTheLard

      "Jesus" may indeed be the answer... Of course, that depends on what the question was...

      For example: Who is the central figure in one of the biggest frauds ever perpetrated?

      March 29, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
    • chief

      re heavensent.... are you completely a heretic or just blasphemous? who are you to say that a person seeking comfort of an ailment has wickedness or on the wrong path? who the hell are you? judge and jury as an advocate of God? you have the authority and sense of those westboro morons.... just try shutting the hell up

      March 29, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
    • chief

      re heavensent.... i forget

      amen

      March 29, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
    • ScottK

      I'm thinking HS might not be so much a bible thumper as a blog troll hoping to get reactions out of both the religious & the athiests. He/she is likely laughing their a$ses off everytime they say amen.

      March 29, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      Might be a really good troll, might be an actual bible thumper.

      Trolls and bible thumpers are hard to tell apart, mainly due to their ideas being stupid and delivered with absolute conviction.

      March 29, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
    • Manica

      Don't Feed The Trolls

      March 30, 2011 at 12:54 am |
    • HeavenSent

      To the fake HeavenSent, I wasn't on-line the 29th or the 30th of March. Get your own voice.

      Amen..

      March 31, 2011 at 12:55 pm |
  16. ScottK

    There's a CVS pharmacy right next to the school here, no one seems upset by that... and there's a liquor store right next to it. Whats the big deal? I'd rather have those next to the school where my kid goes than a McDonalds or a Church, or Churches Chicken for that matter...

    March 29, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
  17. Sarah M

    If there is a God, He surely has given us cannabis as a blessing.
    It is the only non-toxic drug in existence as far as I know.
    We need to help the people who suffer instead of stigmatizing them with outdated propaganda.

    Non-toxic. Who can beat that? Not the big pharmaceutical companies. They pay lobbyists to fight cannabis because it is a plant and therefore cannot be patented. Many toxic pharmaceutical drugs are modeled on cannabis, yet they remain toxic.

    Being scared of a non-toxic drug that helps people just because of decades of anti-pot propaganda is reprehensible.

    March 29, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
    • Nonimus

      @Sarah M,
      I'm not really anti-pot, but your information seems a bit off. Isn't toxicity just a matter of dosage? People have died from drinking too much water, water intoxication or water poisoning. If Wikipedia is correct, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_lethal_dose) THC is more toxic than alcohol or ar.senic, although less toxic than caffeine or nicotine.

      March 29, 2011 at 1:58 pm |
    • Sarah M

      In all of recorded history (and that's a pretty big data set) there have been zero cases of marijuana-caused deaths.

      That's ZERO deaths. ZERO. No one has ever died from a marijuana "overdose". EVER.

      That wiki page is full of nonsense. Haven't you heard of people writing whatever they want on there? Go to an accredited scientific source where they don't fudge the numbers. You'll see no toxicity worth speaking of in any unbiased marijuana study.
      Look for reliable information. Wikipedia is not reliable. Go find an unbiased source of information if you can.

      The fact remains that no one has ever died from marijuana that I have ever heard of.
      Don't you think the anti-drug people would be screaming their heads off about the toxicity if there was any?
      They don't because there is no proof of any toxicity in marijuana. All they have is propaganda.

      March 29, 2011 at 2:08 pm |
    • Sarah M

      Since you like Wiki, this is from the THC page: "One estimate of THC's LD50 for humans indicates that about 1,500 pounds (680 kg) of cannabis would have to be smoked within 14 minutes." – New England Journal of Medicine

      1500 pounds in 14 minutes. Wow. I would think that lack of oxygen would have to be ruled out first.

      March 29, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
    • scroo yoo

      Based on studies on mice,An average human would need to smoke 1500 pounds of pot in 15 minutes or eat 3 raw ounces of THC in order to overdose.The effect to lethal dose ratio for pot is 1/1000 compared to about 1/6 for alcohol.

      Do you know anyone who can smoke 1500 pounds in 15 minutes?

      March 29, 2011 at 2:27 pm |
    • ScottK

      "Do you know anyone who can smoke 1500 pounds in 15 minutes?"

      I'd give it a try if you let me keep whatever I cant get through in the 15 min...

      March 29, 2011 at 2:33 pm |
    • Robert E.

      I've had nicotine poisoning and caffeine poisoning and alcohol poisoning. They are all horrible.
      And guess what? I still smoke and drink. And I believe it is my right as an American to have the choice of whether to imbibe, inhale, or guzzle these things.

      So if I can enjoy my freedoms while getting through the day using coffee, tobacco, and alcohol, why can't I use marijuana?
      Especially if it's non-toxic? Anyone?

      March 29, 2011 at 2:42 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Being an atheist, the church is more of a concern to me than a legal business. I can easily explain legal marijuana – there is no logical explanation for the church in the 21st century.

      I don't dispute the statements above about the toxicity of marijuana, but aren't there probable medical/health issues due to the inhalation of smoke?

      March 29, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
    • Nonimus

      @Sarah M,
      I have not studied this topic and am not trying argue against marijuana use by anyone. All I'm saying is that claiming it is "non-toxic" is not correct. Your own citation confirms that.

      The article below states that the "Usual lethal concentration (and range) in blood (mg/l)" for delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol (the "Pricipal active component" in Marijuana) is 180-315 micrograms/liter whereas Ethanol (Alcohol) is 2200-5000 milligrams/liter. However, it also states that the "Safty ratio," whatever that is, is >1000 and 10 respectively. I'm guessing that the raw substance d9-THC is vastly more toxic, but actually getting that much d9-THC into the bloodstream is rather difficult, unlike alcohol.
      http://web.cgu.edu/faculty/gabler/toxicity%20Addiction%20offprint.pdf

      And from the National Library of Medicine:

      Range of Toxicity:
      A) TOXICITY: Toxicity is dose-related, however, there is a
      wide-range of variability among individuals that is
      potentially influenced by prior experience and tolerance.
      In children, severe toxicity such as coma has been
      reported after ingesting several marijuana butts,
      hashish, and marijuana food products.
      (http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/f?./temp/~SD5JnS:1:emt)

      March 29, 2011 at 3:41 pm |
    • Manica

      This is a reply to ScottK's reply to Sarah M.

      ScottK said: ""Do you know anyone who can smoke 1500 pounds in 15 minutes?"

      I'd give it a try if you let me keep whatever I cant get through in the 15 min..."

      My reply: ScottK.. 1st. Can I join you? 😀 2nd. Will you be my new best friend? You are the first person to make laugh hard in weeks. That was an awesome answer lol...

      March 30, 2011 at 12:52 am |
  18. Doc Vestibule

    What's the religious issue with pot?
    Rastafarians are Christians who consider marijuana a sacrament.

    March 29, 2011 at 12:55 pm |
    • Ras

      Jah gives us cannabis because He loves us. It don't make you evil like alcohol. It give us peace. It is from Jah.

      March 29, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
  19. GSA

    I would be more concerned with the Catholic church being so close to a school with young kids.
    Get rid of the church and let the school and pot shop stay.

    March 29, 2011 at 12:52 pm |
    • Tom R

      An excellent point. When are we going to keep a closer eye on those Catholics? They are a threat to our children.

      March 29, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
  20. Stern

    It's a medical dispensary not an illegal drug dealer.
    You people need to get a grip. Sick people need medicine.
    If you were undergoing chemotherapy, you'd be very glad if one of these was close to your home.

    March 29, 2011 at 12:50 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      They need Jesus not pot.
      Amen...

      March 29, 2011 at 2:12 pm |
    • PraiseTheLard

      Religion is a drug that has caused more suffering over the years than pot...

      It's probably more destructive to the brain, also...

      March 29, 2011 at 2:18 pm |
    • Robert E.

      HeavenSent, you sound like you don't care about helping people. Why don't you go jump off a cliff?

      March 29, 2011 at 2:49 pm |
    • Ed

      God has never been proven to help any person ever. Facts are facts.

      March 29, 2011 at 10:36 pm |
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