Filmmaker: I found God in Hollywood
Lee Stanley, right, and his son, Shane, left, with Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson on the set of their 2006 film, "Gridiron Gang."
March 31st, 2011
01:00 AM ET

Filmmaker: I found God in Hollywood

By Steve Almasy, CNN

(CNN) - It’s not impossible to be a Christian in Hollywood, Lee Stanley will tell you. What it does take is guts - the same guts it takes to be a Christian anywhere, he says.

Stanley wasn’t a believer when he moved from New England to California in the 1960s. He was in love with a fantasy – not the idea of making it big on the big screen, but being around the water all the time.

The aspiring baseball player had realized he wasn’t going to make it to the major leagues, so he turned to another passion - diving. He had no idea the trek West would lead him on the road to becoming a filmmaker who tells stories of redemption and faith.

Stanley details his life in “Faith in the Land of Make-Believe,” published this month by Zondervan. In a phone interview from his boat, he said he wrote the book to “to encourage people that have wandered away or lost the confidence in the things that have been on their heart for years.”

For years Stanley was lost, he just didn’t know it, he said. He spent his youth caring only about himself. He was raised to never show a weakness. He just wanted to have fun, make a little cash and spend time in the water off Catalina Island. He even thought about taking off on a tramp steamer setting sail for Greece, where he could do some diving.

But a friend of a friend knew people in the movie business, and Stanley - then 19 - got a job as an extra on a Frank Sinatra film. He was intrigued by the industry, so he took other bit parts in film and television and soon signed with MGM. In 1966, he was considered for the part of Benjamin Braddock in “The Graduate,” but it went to Dustin Hoffman instead. His last acting role was in 1972’s “The Candidate,” where he appeared alongside Robert Redford.

He was beyond bored, though. Too much sitting around and waiting, he says. So he started making documentaries. His distributor was a kind man named Dave Adams.

Adams invited Stanley over for brunch with his wife but said they were going to church first. Stanley tried to get out of it, saying he had no jacket or tie and wouldn’t be presentable. Adams told him to come as he was. Stanley agreed - to appease the man with the money.

They went to Church on the Way in Van Nuys, where a few hundred eager people were waiting for the first service to let out. He went from blasé to curious. Then the doors opened, and the smiling churchgoers spilled out. Now Stanley really wanted to see what was inside.

He says it hit him right away once inside. He calls it The Voice. It said, “Welcome home. We have a lot of things to do together.”

Stanley embraced making faith-based films and documentaries, but he chose not to make them overly Christian. As an example of what he didn’t want to do, he remembered a film he saw shortly after moving to Hollywood. It was a beautiful work that touched all of his emotions, he said, but the one he felt at the end was anger.

“It became a 10-minute, finger-pointing altar call,” he says. “I felt trapped and betrayed.”

That’s not the way to win over non-believers or people struggling with their faith, he thought, not on screen nor in person.

“I don’t lead with scripture any more than I expect people that have their own faith to constantly try to push me into it,” he said.

On the other hand, when a studio or distributor pushed back on the themes of his movies, he would not compromise. He remained steadfast and worked with the people who accepted his philosophy.

“I’ve been in a lot of good fights,” he says. “Sometimes I was a winner, sometimes I got kicked back where I belonged.”

His commitment led to an award-winning documentary, “Desperate Passage.” After meeting a youth offender at a correctional institution, Stanley found it in his heart to make a documentary about young criminals. In an unusual move, he petitioned the court to release seven juveniles into his custody, so that he could film them during a 10-day sail on his yacht.

It took four years to get permission.

“Everything I was asking for was illegal,” he says. “You weren’t supposed to take pictures of young offenders. I also asked to have my pick of the kids, and there were no guards [on the trip].”

The struggles didn’t end after shooting wrapped. No TV station wanted to air the documentary. Two years later, a Los Angeles station director agreed to show it, and it got tremendous ratings. It won two Emmys and confirmed his mission in life.

“We all have a God-ordained purpose in our life, but I have to add to that because I learned … that before he will lead us into each stage of our purpose, drawing us closer and closer, he has to do things in our life so we when we get to that next stage, we won’t misfire, destroy or lose,” he says.

“That’s the wonderful thing about God.”

Stanley also made "Gridiron Gang," starring Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Stanley’s son, Shane, helped produce it.

Stanley and his third wife, Linda, are sailing these days as he writes the screenplay of his next project. It’s a victory story, he says.

It appears the same can be said for his.

- Producer/Writer

Filed under: California • Movies • TV

soundoff (322 Responses)
  1. stevie68a

    He said "it takes guts to be a christian". Please explain why it takes guts to be a hater. The world will be a better place without

    April 10, 2011 at 10:53 am |
    • Christian Adeline

      Stevie, Christians are not haters but truth holders. Truth must be told and taught no matter what. Non-believers truly hate good things and good people.

      April 10, 2011 at 11:16 pm |
    • Ash

      @stevie68a well said

      April 11, 2011 at 10:28 am |
    • Mike in SC

      Good grief! It doesn't take ANY guts to be a Christian. Christians are ubiquitous. And they are constantly trumpeting themselves. That's like saying it takes guts to be a white man.

      Now if everyone reacted to all religious believers like they SHOULD react, then yes, that would take guts. Since the appropriate reaction to a belief in god should be equivalent to the reaction one has when someone tells you they believe in Unicorns or the existence of UFOs.

      April 11, 2011 at 12:35 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      (1) I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, {which is} your reasonable service. (2) And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what {is} that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

      Romans 12:1-2


      April 14, 2011 at 8:25 am |
    • CHUCK

      Stevie68, the biggest haters on this thread, if you will just check, are the non-believers. True Christians are not "haters", they simply stand up for what they believe, without hatefulness or cruelty. Someone said something about the WBC and the Jehovah's Witnesses as being Christian. As a conservative Believer, I will tell you the WBC is a money-making group of haters who have no more to do with Christianity than the Scientologists. Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe as Christians do; they simply get lumped in, so to speak, because they aren't something else. I have rarely heard such hate as what I see here from non-believers; you all sound worse than any of those who you make fun of.

      April 16, 2011 at 6:11 pm |
    • Prophetess

      Just read some of the comments on this board, it's self explanatory. Christians are the most hated among all religions and the name of Jesus Christ, the Messiah, evokes anger, that's why we know He is real. Buddha, Mohammad, etc., does not get this type of response. This increases our faith because we know that there is POWER in the name of JESUS. Thank all of those that try to persecute us, dismay us, trample on us for we know that it is the Christ in us to be able to take what you are saying and still love you because we couldn't do it in our own might.

      April 23, 2011 at 6:13 pm |
    • PraiseTheLard

      Prophetess wrote: "Christians are the most hated among all religions"

      Actually, it's the Jews... so there goes the rest of your theory...

      April 23, 2011 at 6:21 pm |
    • Prophetess

      Jews and Christians believe in the same God, we are brothers and sisters. Although the Orthodox Jew only believes that Jesus was a great prophet, they do not deny Him, we (Christians) believe that Jesus is the Messiah. So, your "so there goes the rest of your theory," statement is without foundation. People hate Jews for their belief in God and also because how God has so richly blessed them. People hate Christians because of Jesus Christ. Again, take my statement earlier, "This increases our faith because we know that there is POWER in the name of JESUS. Thank all of those that try to persecute us, dismay us, trample on us for we know that it is the Christ in us to be able to take what you are saying and still love you because we couldn't do it in our own might."

      April 23, 2011 at 6:30 pm |
  2. NOPARK40

    I come to realize that irregardless of peoples religious orientation that peoples belief or lack of belief is based more on the fact of "fear on the unknown" ! Two common denominators between people of faith and so called atheists (one who "says there is no GOD" (which i believe is a TYPE of oxymoron) ...) is for 1) They both are arguing for position of the "fear" of the unknown and for 2) They BOTH ARE demonstrating "FAITH"
    The one thing that both sides have to agree on is that for sure (as we now know of this present life) an end will come and if the atheist point of view is correct than the Christian has nothing to worry about BUT if the christian point of view is correct than lets just say politely "they both wont co-exist in the near future"

    April 10, 2011 at 7:16 am |
  3. kells

    tom u don't sound like sum1 with a college degree

    April 10, 2011 at 1:19 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      How would you know?

      April 12, 2011 at 8:16 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      (15) Love not the world, neither the things {that are} in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. (16) For all that {is} in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. (17) And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

      1 John 2:15-17


      April 14, 2011 at 8:22 am |
  4. Shari Lynn

    23 years ago, Shari Lynn was a vegetable. Now recovered, and with three children, she counsels community members, providing motivation to not only survive, but to achieve what people believed was impossible. Meet Shari at an art gallery in Coral Springs where she directs a program called "Communicate Through Art". At the event, she will teach children to express their pain and frustration through picture creation. Your children will leave feeling calmer, having more focus. Sunday April 10, 12:00 at the Gard Gallery, 6240-109 Coral Ridge Drive. God is good.

    April 9, 2011 at 7:56 am |
  5. Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

    Freddy, you should be grateful that a troll is impersonating you. He/she/it can't be as stupid as you are, so it's all to the good.

    April 8, 2011 at 6:56 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      (2) For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, (3) Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, (4) Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; (5) Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. (6) For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, (7) Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

      2 Timothy 3:2-7

      Maybe your 3rd degree should be in reading and comprehending His truth in the Bible.


      April 14, 2011 at 8:20 am |
  6. Jonathan

    This man shows a great deal of humility.

    April 8, 2011 at 8:18 am |
  7. Frederica

    Tom and others, my name is hijacked again. The original Christian Frederica won't post as "Frederica" after this post.

    April 8, 2011 at 12:49 am |
  8. joe

    It's pretty hard NOT being a Christian in North America.

    April 8, 2011 at 12:22 am |
    • Adeline

      Joe, it's alwas hard to live out a true Christian life. But the unspeakable reward is forever as Jesus has promised, in this world and beyond.

      April 8, 2011 at 7:29 am |
    • Mike in SC

      According to your mythology perhaps, Adeline.

      April 11, 2011 at 12:38 pm |
  9. Patrick

    I don't believe, and yet I don't berate. Funny how that whole "freedom" thing works ain't it? Not all non-religious people are arrogant and/or ignorant. Some of us just don't have the same perspective, and that's all it is. No malice, and we still live by moral code. Imagine that, if you will. And before anyone misinterprets this message, it was more of a stab towards these "athiests", and to explain to Christians or anyone religious that those of us that are non-religious also have values and morals. Also, don't be so quick to label a non-religious person as athiest. I personally do believe there is a God but I doubt he has a white beard, or even is a "he". God is the ever present law of creation and existence. The conscious force of an unconcious universe.

    April 7, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
    • Christian Adeline

      Values and morals of atheists are destruction of everyone who does not agree with them. There is no conscious force in the unsconcious universe. Americans would never have to spend so much money to lose weight to no avail if there were such a thing as unconscious force in nature. Unconscious universe was formed, designed, programmed and sustained by God.

      April 9, 2011 at 3:44 am |
    • Mike in SC

      So lemme get this straight, people wouldn't have to pay money to lose weight if god didn't exist? If that's how religious "logic" works, that explains a lot about why religious people have such trouble being awakened from the hypnosis of their mythology.

      April 11, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
  10. QS

    "That’s not the way to win over non-believers or people struggling with their faith, he thought, not on screen nor in person."

    “I don’t lead with scripture any more than I expect people that have their own faith to constantly try to push me into it,” he said.

    Though you claim to not "lead with scripture" you still admit that you feel some obligation to "win over" others. And though you expect others to "not push their own faith onto you", you believe your faith is truer than theirs otherwise you wouldn't feel that obligation to "win over" others in the first place.

    Nothing new here, another religious person claiming they "found" something that they simply want to "share" with others...which of course to the rational person, "share" translates to "obey or else".

    He also makes the common mistake that most religious people make – to give all credit and responsibility for his own failures and accomplishments to god rather than claim that credit and responsibility for himself. This way regardless of what happens in the life of a religious person they can always justify that, whether good or bad things happen, god is still just a super great supreme being who "has a plan" for them.

    April 7, 2011 at 2:20 pm |
    • Ann

      Christians are only human. We all make mistakes and try to have good values and morals.
      Just because Christians believe in God does not mean they are idiots/ignorant or other negative connotations attach to Christians.

      I believe God created this world and everything in it. I believe God loves us so much that He sent his only Son to earth to live as a human. To live as a human and live through daily routines humans go through, and then to be killed by humans because of our human nature (unwilling to admit our own wrongs, seeking after our own gain, thinking things are not fair when it is not in our favor).

      Each person has a story and the writer of this story was just writing the life of a person who found God in a setting (Hollywood) which is does not promote Christianity. He is not using bible verses to tell people you should do things this way because the Bible says so, like how law enforcement would convict law-breakers with public polices. He is simply trying to live his life based on what he believes (which can include the bible).

      April 7, 2011 at 6:57 pm |
  11. Frederica

    True worshippers of God never get conned but understand the genuine importance of organized religion(Christianity). Self-worship is hallowness and meaninlessness. Man is created to worship God, not himself.

    April 7, 2011 at 4:08 am |
    • Apophis

      you can't con a con! like any other beliefs that has come and gone, so will the Xtrians beliefs come and go. maybe not in our lifetime, but it will happen. history repeats itself. that's proven. you learn about it in history classess of all the beliefs or gods that humans believed in throughout time and history. see it in museums. read about them in books. see it on tv. and you think, wow! they really believed in zeus or apophis!! lol science is the way. whether you like it or not. all religions creates hate. controls peoples thinkings. like yourself. i wish i could see the day the vatican falls and loses its grip on the people they have fooled around the world. oh wait! maybe apophis will hit the vatican in 2036!! yeah!!!

      April 7, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
    • Frederica

      @Apophis Science is discovering what God has created and applying what is given by Him. Self is the worst con against humanity, that's why God gave us His word to us. Regarding history, atheism was taken down by Christians 2 decades ago because atheists did the worst atrocities in the shortest time.

      April 7, 2011 at 10:55 pm |
    • Mike in SC

      Christianity is just a mythology among mythologies. Currently the Muslim mythology is the world's most popular mythology. The athiest stands outside the mythologies and therefore realizes what none trapped inside a mythology can, that all of them are equally true and equally untrue.

      April 11, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      (4) No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of {this} life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

      (22) Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

      2 Timothy 2:4, 22


      April 14, 2011 at 8:16 am |
  12. Marie

    The irony – “Faith in the Land of Make-Believe". Faith is just that- make-believe & Hollywood would seem to be the best place for a believer to be.

    Yet, there are a lot of non-believers in Hollywood. They are aware of the "con" of what they do. A lot of believers feel that they are not being conned by their pastors and religion. Behind the false smiles and enthusiasm found in churches you will find that it's a time-wasting money game.

    April 6, 2011 at 9:17 pm |
  13. Byrd

    They found him, or at least the one who claims to be his son, yesterday on a pizza in Australia. Chow down, Devil Dogs!

    April 6, 2011 at 12:41 pm |
  14. Frederica

    Robots don't even claim humans were created by them. Some humans are less than robots in ackowledging facts.

    April 5, 2011 at 10:50 pm |
    • standingwave

      Robots don't claim anything they weren't programmed to.

      April 6, 2011 at 8:23 pm |
    • Frederica

      Standingwave, that's the thing. Even cells in our body do rightly what are programmed, but humanity in free will rejects God and His ways though there are overwhelming evidences for Him. Humans are below robots in that sense.

      April 7, 2011 at 4:04 am |
    • Apophis

      Freddy, you are truly an idiot!

      April 7, 2011 at 2:03 pm |
  15. AthensGuy

    Holywood Blvd? Is god a pimp?

    April 5, 2011 at 9:44 pm |
  16. VoipOfReason

    Religion & God are things created by Man.

    They were created for & by man to cope with being intelligent enough to know the meaning of mortality, but, yet, not possess the intellect or technology to understand it.

    Additionally, it (religion & god) played a major role in building blocks for social structure. While be it that not one specific set of customs/religion was widely excepted, the adherence to a specific set of rules established by geographically proximity, worked well, prior to the dawn of man’s first steps into the technological future.

    Fortunately, once a Freedom-of-religion based society had been established and the world became a smaller place, due to advancements in technology, a lot of us discovered that we no longer needed to be scared into being decent human beings, we did so, because, we discovered, that a lot more can be accomplished, when not bickering about who's imaginary friend is better than who’s.

    A lot of human beings have an intellect that has surpassed a psychological need for religion and/or god, however, there are still those, who need the idea of a religion to provide a moral compass, and to justify their ideas, motives, and/or existence. I would like to say that man would be better without any form of religion or god, however, I look at how awful some people can treat one another. Most of the tiem, these people are “religious” individuals. Imagine how much worse these people would be, if they you told millions of them, “There is no reason (besides the obvious) to be a good person, nothing you do in this lifetime will be judged”. One can only assume, this would lead to the downfall of civilized human society.

    April 5, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
    • JPopNC

      So says the Church of Darwinism!

      April 8, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
    • toxictown

      VoipOfReason, yup – hitting the nail on the head. Religions are political organizations first (albeit somewhat useful) – spiritual organizations a very distant seond (or third).

      April 11, 2011 at 1:56 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      (18) (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, {that they are} the enemies of the cross of Christ: (19) Whose end {is} destruction, whose God {is their} belly, and {whose} glory {is} in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

      Philippians 3:18-19


      April 14, 2011 at 8:11 am |
  17. Reality

    The basis of the following prayer would make a better historical movie:

    The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated based on the studies of historians and theologians during the past 200 years- see the list of 35 books and articles to peruse that were previous noted)-------------

    I might believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state (as per Aquinas and JPII) of bliss called heaven.

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.


    April 2, 2011 at 8:23 am |
    • JPopNC

      Reality: You see, where your story starts to crumble is that Jesus' body does not "lie" somewhere. If those early Christians were claiming Christ had risen, don't you think the Romans and the Jews would have been the first to dispel that rumor by pulling the body from the grave to quell any type of ground swell? Of course they would have....immediately. But they had no body, so they basically tried to keep a low profile.

      Also...how about Jesus' disciples? While he was alive, even though they were followers they ALL showed signs of doubt and they ALL gave up hope after the Crucifixion and even denied their association. However, when the resurrected Christ appeared, they ALL were willing to give up their life for their beliefs and all but one did.

      Why do you suppose they had such a sudden change of heart?

      April 8, 2011 at 1:45 pm |
    • Magic


      1. Concrete, verified historicity of the 12 (13) apostles' lives and eventual fates is sketchy to non-existent outside of Bible stories.

      2. Even if the Bible stories about them are true... many people over the centuries have died for misguided causes (religious and otherwise)... David Koresh's followers, Jim Jones' followers, Heaven's Gate followers, Muslim suicide bombers, just to name a few.

      April 8, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
    • Floyd

      Actually, where @Reality's assertion crumbles is where he says to refer to books and writings of others that are 100's of years old while stating the other writings are false. Can't pick and choose there guy. Writing from 200 years ago is as valid as a writing 1800 years before that. What year do you draw the line of fiction and reality? Either way they are ancient, written by dead people and are just opinions. Reality just chooses which ones to believe which is his right, he is just contradictory.

      April 11, 2011 at 4:09 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      (12) There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof {are} the ways of death.

      Proverbs 14:12

      April 14, 2011 at 8:09 am |
    • Witness

      This is getting boring. We need som Muslims in here to post long quotes from the Quaran. Since nobody else is doing it, I'm rooting for that Muhammed-guy tonight – you know, the dude who took himself a nine-year-old girl as a wife.

      April 24, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
  18. Frederica

    Tom, don't get hurt and don't hurt others. I didn't read all your correspondence but your mother and the Christians who know you personally love you and pray for you, wishing your salvation and for your best. Jesus loves you.

    April 2, 2011 at 12:55 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Bite me. You don't have a clue what my posts are even saying because you're no brighter than Stevie.

      April 2, 2011 at 11:57 am |
    • Frederica

      Tom, for now I'm just glad to know you are intact. Plese remember there are a lot of different worlds outside of your hatred and disappointments. This world is full of tragedies but not without the God-given Hope.

      April 4, 2011 at 2:01 am |
    • Frederica

      Tom, what would your mother say to you? Why didn't you go to school?

      April 4, 2011 at 10:38 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      My mother would be laughing at you and your nonsensical rants, Freddy. Unlike you, I have two college degrees. What do you have?

      April 5, 2011 at 9:56 am |
    • Frederica

      Tom, I have one. I thought you were a teenage boy. I'm a mother like yours. I think she'd be happy if you talk like a man.

      April 5, 2011 at 10:48 pm |
    • Frederica

      Tom, why are you so unhappy? There are a lot of beautiful things in this world that can catch your attention and you can appreciate them. God created them all and He loves you, but you need a different life. He will give you His life. God and His people love you deeply, Tom.

      April 5, 2011 at 10:57 pm |
    • JacktheCritic

      Frederica, my suggestion is to leave Tom alone. Just ignore him. He is an angry, lost soul. If he becomes quiet, he will find Jesus, as I did. Did I mention I found him in my backyard? He was smoking pot and talking to Elvis, listening to Stairway to Heaven.

      April 6, 2011 at 11:16 am |
    • Frederica

      Jack, I think you were smoking pot. You wouldn't need it if you truly have found Jesus. He has something much better, permanent, harmless, honorable and realistic. You should not think of God on your term. There is End in everything, Jack.

      April 6, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I tell you, it's truly a riot reading these posts. You idiots haven't a clue.

      April 8, 2011 at 6:57 pm |
    • jesus_is_love

      You know nothing of Jesus! You are simply religious. Read the RED letters of the NEW testament, you wolf in sheep clothes. If you knew my Jesus, you would be filled with love. Not self deluded judgment. I pray you will know His love and truth one day. You are blind and in bondage!

      April 9, 2011 at 2:21 am |
    • Adeline

      @ j-i-l The whole Bible is inspired, and Jesus is coming back as Judge-King this time. The love of Jesus is holy.

      April 9, 2011 at 2:54 am |
    • Floyd

      Well, Thomas the apostle was the doubter after all. Right up until he had to see it for himself.

      April 11, 2011 at 3:53 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      (8) For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

      Galatians 6:8


      April 14, 2011 at 8:06 am |
  19. Steve (the real one)

    Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son
    You really are diim, aren't you? I'm not opposed to faith in the slightest. What I despise is your assumption that YOUR brand of faith and your beliefs are the only valid ones. You are too stupid to grasp the point and can only continue to mumble nonsense that makes it quite apparent you have no idea what I have said. None. What you believe is simply that. Your belief. Not truth or fact. Nor is your belief the only valid and valuable belief system in the world. So what if it works for you? You nincompoop, you and your like have cast out all who don't see things as you do and then proceed to bray that your beliefs are the sole "true" ones. All the while telling everyone who doesn't fit your mold that they're cast out and doomed. Way to persuade others that your beliefs are meant for all. That breeze you feel ruffling your ponytail is the point flying right over your empty head.
    Wow Tom, you are a bitter somebody! I guess i'm to blame for that too huh? I hope you feel better after all that! You can only belittle me if i allow it. I don't, sorry! Slow down and enjoy your life. I apologized for coming across as a jack a-s-s! your turn!

    April 1, 2011 at 11:44 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You fail, yet again, to show that your reading comprehension is any better than that of a 5th grader.

      April 2, 2011 at 11:56 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You also show your inability to figure out how the "reply" function operates. Brilliant, dude.

      April 2, 2011 at 12:10 pm |
    • JPopNC
      April 8, 2011 at 1:36 pm |
    • JPopNC

      applauding Steve !!!

      April 8, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      (6) For to be carnally minded {is} death; but to be spiritually minded {is} life and peace. (7) Because the carnal mind {is} enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. (8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

      Romans 8:6-8


      April 14, 2011 at 8:02 am |
  20. Frederica

    People even found God in Nazi camp; they can find Him in a place like Hollywood.

    April 1, 2011 at 11:34 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What would you know about Hollywood, you nitwit?

      April 2, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • Frederica

      Tom, the outlook of Hollywood seems completely godless. The vocab use in language tells something. And they look ridiculously spiritual( they preach all the time) but never seeking the truth. I guess creating a self-serving religion is much easier than designing a spaceship that can fly. I think something went wrong in USA during the Vietnam War era and she never recovered from that era.

      April 4, 2011 at 1:58 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Jesus, Freddy, you sound like an idiot.

      April 4, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
    • Frederica

      Tom, don't swear. The filthy language is downing the United States of America.

      April 4, 2011 at 10:36 pm |
    • Maybe


      Perhaps you don't actually use cuss words, but your intent is often the same... angry, hostile, degrading and bullying.

      April 4, 2011 at 11:05 pm |
    • Frederica

      @Maybe: You atheists can't take corrections or warnings. Your sayings fit to your atheist friends, though their language is filthy.

      April 5, 2011 at 6:15 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You clueless boob, you know nothing about what I believe. You, like every other zealot, choose to think that anyone who doesn't adhere to YOUR particular beliefs is an (gasp!) "atheist".

      April 5, 2011 at 9:59 am |
    • Frederica

      Tom, but you talk like one. You shouldn't hate Christians but be thankful.

      April 5, 2011 at 10:45 pm |
    • JacktheCritic

      @Frederica: Wait...didn't you guys invent a religion too? You know, that one about some guy that can walk on water, turn water into wine, rose from the dead? And then another guy that parted the Red Sea with a staff and then climbed on a boat to repopulate the world with his own family, and of course this was after frogs fell from the sky. No no...that all makes perfect sense. Every other religion must be invented by pagans. But one wonders what these "pagans" think about your religion.

      April 6, 2011 at 11:13 am |
    • Frederica

      Jack, no one invented religion as every human is born with religious nature. It's kind of a memory chip to remind mankind of the Creator God. It's just today's chaotic self-worship in the West is something unprecedented although predicted.

      April 6, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • ha ha ha

      Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special Olympics, even if you win, you are still retarded.

      April 11, 2011 at 1:10 pm |
    • Witness

      Actually, some even found God in Nazism. Yes, there are Nazi Christians.

      April 24, 2011 at 7:40 pm |
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