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April 2nd, 2011
01:00 AM ET

Living under the headscarf

Editor’s Note: "Unwelcome: The Muslims Next Door" features the Muslim community of Murfreesboro, Tennessee, where sisters Dima and Lema Sbenaty grew up and live. CNN’s Soledad O’Brien chronicles the dramatic fight over the construction of a mosque in the heart of the Bible belt. Watch “Unwelcome: The Muslims Next Door” airing at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET April 2 on CNN.

By Elizabeth M. Nunez, CNN

Few items of clothing inspire as much controversy as the hijab, or headscarf. To some it represents oppression or radical Islam.

But to American-born Muslim sisters Dima and Lema Sbenaty, the hijab is a source of pride.

“Before I thought it would bother me to wear a scarf in public. I was surprised to feel that I was proud of my religion and all of my friends," says Dima Sbenaty, 20.

"We all go out together and they’re all wearing headscarves as well. It’s nothing that I’m ashamed of, and that’s part of my strength with my religion.”

The sisters have lived most of their lives in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. Now they are students at Middle Tennessee State University. Lema, a chemistry major, wants to become a pediatrician and dreams of tending to children in Ethiopia. Dima, a biology and chemistry double major, is working toward becoming a dentist. Neither has decided if she will permanently wear a hijab, but both cover during daily prayer.

In Arabic, hijab roughly translates as “barrier” or partition. In Islam, it refers to the principle of modesty in behavior and dress, as described in the Quran: "Say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments.”

Women raised in the faith like the Sbenaty sisters say the moment to start wearing a hijab is theirs to choose.

For others who convert to Islam, like Ivy Balloul, a blue-eyed American raised as a Methodist, the hijab comes with her adopted faith. “This was part of me converting to Islam," she said. "You can’t divide it up into little pieces and pick and choose what you want. It’s a whole package.”

Ivy, married to the imam of the Murfreesboro mosque, has received negative comments for wearing a hijab. “One man said to me in the post office that I can take off my scarf, that I’m free here. Another woman felt like I was a traitor. A man called to me one day from his car telling me that, uh, I should go back home.”

But these experiences do not discourage her from covering her head.

“I feel like I have more respect. Before, I could be pumping gas in my car and some guy would whistle or make some type of catcall. It was an uncomfortable situation," she said.

"When you put on a scarf ... [you] know that people can’t look at you as a sexual object. The first time I put it on I felt more comfortable in my own skin.”

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Belief • Islam • Muslim

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  1. Reality

    o The koran and world domination

    "Mohammed could not have known the size of the world, but several passages in the Koran show that he envisioned Islam dominating all of it, however large it might be: “He it is who sent his messenger . . . that he may cause it [Islam] to prevail over all religions´(Koran 9:33, M.M. Ali; see also 48:28 and 61:9). M.M. Ali designates these three passages as “the prophecy of the ultimate triumph of Islam in the whole world.”

    Mohammed’s successors, the caliphs, quoted passages like these to inspire Muslim armies as they advanced out of Arabia, imposing Islam by the sword upon a peacefully unsuspecting Middle East and North Africa, as I described in the previous chapter.

    Islamic armies, imbued with what Mohammed claimed was divine authorization, imposed Islam by force over vast areas, all the while extorting wealth from subjugated Jews and Christians to fund their ongoing conquests. As I noted, major defeats at Tours, France, in A.D. 732, and again at Vienna, Austria, in A.D. 1683, halted Islam’s attempt to take all of Europe by force. Gradually Islamic forces were forced to retreat from Europe, except for part of the Balkans. But Islam has again set its sights on a conquest of Europe and of European civilization, wherever the latter has spread to North and South America and other regions. Muslim strategists ask their followers, Why do we find in these modern times that Allah has entrusted most of the world’s oil wealth primarily to Muslim nations?

    Their answer: Allah foresaw Islam’s need for funds to finance a final politico-religious victory over what Islam perceives as its ultimate enemy: Christianized Euro-American civilization. So, Islam follows Nazism, fascism and communism as the world’s latest hostile takeover aspirant.

    Nazis, fascists and communists failed. Does Islam have a better chance at success? I believe it will flounder if we awaken to its threat in time; yet, if there is not adequate planned resistance, Islam does have a better chance of succeeding. Communism’s world takeover attempt was guaranteed to fail because its economic policy was naively contrary to human nature. Advocating the rubric What is mine is thine, and what is thine is mine, communism failed to see that human nature will not keep those two balanced propositions in equilibrium. Like a female black widow spider consuming her mate, the latter part of the formula makes a meal of the former, leading to the collapse of any system based upon that formula.

    In contrast, political systems do well if they can persuade people to adhere to What’s mine is mine and What’s thine is thine maxims.

    Only if a strong religious incentive is added does such an idealistic formula have any long-term chance. Even then success will be spotty. But communism (and Nazism, for that matter) excluded religion. And that mistake was the final nail eventually clamping a lid on communism’s coffin. Communism, on a historical scale, perished while still in its childhood.

    Islam is not repeating communism’s mistake. Mating political cunning and incredible wealth with religious zeal, Islam does have a chance to succeed and will succeed unless major parts of the Western world unite to take appropriate countermeasures. But many Western leaders, unable to believe that a mere religion could possible be a serious political threat, keep proclaiming themselves as Islam-friendly, reasoning that all religions are good-aren’t they?
    A Muslim strategist in Beverly Hills, California, declared several years ago, as quoted by a friend of mine: “Now that the struggle between Western democracies and international communism is winding down, it is time for the real and final struggle to begin, and we are going to win!”

    – Don Richardson

    April 2, 2011 at 2:50 pm |
    • peacppl

      get a life oh brainwashed one

      April 2, 2011 at 2:53 pm |
    • EducationWins

      Excellent

      April 2, 2011 at 3:26 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      EducationWins, education without common sense is like a car without wheels.

      Amen.

      April 2, 2011 at 4:13 pm |
    • Abudu Rahman

      Haven't you realized yet that Islam is the return of Alla's Kingdom on earth? It's inevitable reality. You cannot stop what is already destined to happen. You have most of it right you just refuse to see the divinest of what you have written. You want to see evil in it because you have been confused by Western ideas of what is right and what is wrong. Free will opposed to Divine Will is what got mankind thrown out of paradise in the first place down here on earth.

      April 3, 2011 at 12:30 pm |
    • Abudu Rahman

      I meant Allah's Kingdom on earth?

      April 3, 2011 at 12:31 pm |
  2. peacppl

    i need ma mooooon shine n marlboros

    April 2, 2011 at 2:49 pm |
  3. crawbar

    John vs. Mohammed.
    John, Mohammed demonstrates the perverted logic of Islamists referring to crusaders.
    I suspect the muslims with their behaviour will call new crusader campaigns upon them.

    April 2, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
  4. peacppl

    Dixie is on par with afghanistan....same backwardness

    April 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm |
  5. Tell the TRUTH

    How many other religions does Islam welcome ? They can't even tolerate the different sects in Islam, Sunni and Shiite, etc.. that's why the region is in turmoil everyday now. For those crying tolerance the loudest are the least tolerant people on the planet.

    April 2, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
    • peacppl

      catholics and protestents sing kumbaya in irealand.....didnt you know

      April 2, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      TTTruth, all this unrest is written in scriptures if you care to read it with eyes to see. God is in control.

      Amen.

      April 2, 2011 at 3:38 pm |
  6. Limbaugh is a liberal

    Headscarves have been worn by women for millenia in all cultures. They are still commonplace in not just eastern europe, but in several communities right here in America (example: orthodox jewish women, or hollywood celebrities). And yet not a single comment about those. Why is it that somehow a headscarf must be something special about Islam, but not when anybody else wears it?

    April 2, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      I worked with a Rabbi's wife who wore a wig every day. She told me that her husband was the only one that saw her real hair. It was a sign of respect.

      Amen.

      April 2, 2011 at 3:35 pm |
  7. Trashy Blonde Chick

    I for one, am going up to the Pit Stop to buy my 6 pack of Natty and my pack of cigarettes. All of you religious fools, what do you really know about what happens? Ha, ha, I live my life by physics:
    What comes around goes around. Also, for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction.
    Think about it folks.

    April 2, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
  8. sahsan

    Unfortunately Islam has been the most misunderstood religion. I've been a student of Islam and amazed it is all about peace, love and respect for the humanity. Islam word itself means 'peace'. The main source of teachings of this religion is Quran and Hadith (traditions of Prophet) and I could not find any violence or extremism in any of it. That is why those who read them start thinking about their initial perception and some get so convinced that they even adapt this peaceful religion. Some people has talked here in the comments about history, I wish they had actually read history. There has been no violence or extremism in whole history of Islam. I think the first big revlotuion of Islam when Prophet conquered Mecca and whole Arab, at that time there was no killing at all and he just forgave all the enemies (see movie "The Message" as it also based on true facts and pointout towards that event). Read what happened during crusades, the Sulta Saladin when concquered Jerusalem, forgave all its enemies. Same place was earlier conquered by Caliph Omar and read the history how he got reached there to get the keys of Bait-ul-Muqaddas at the request of ex-ruler there. He and his servat approached there like ordinary two people making shift in riding one horse. When they approached the place where ex. ruler had to handover the keys to him being new ruler of the whole region, at that time it was his turn to walk and his servant's turn to ride on horse. The ex-ruler had said that no one can defeat the morals of this nation. Islamic history is full of such countless facts. Unfortunately Muslim rulers have forgotten those golden principals now, but the general people in majority are still peace loving and they believe in peace and love. I wish we should comment by reading the history and reading Quran and not just based on what we understand by reading what media wants us to think in general.

    April 2, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
    • Charlie

      You have been lied to. Islam does not mean peace, it means giving one's self up. And for you information, the English translation of the Koran tends to use less provocative and violent words than the Arabic version. Learn Arabic, read the so called "peaceful Koran", then make your comment about how peaceful it is. I bet you will not sustain the same opinion about Islam after you've done what i told you.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:55 pm |
    • what

      Seeing is believing. Misunderstood! LOL What a joke. We can see through that in a NY minute.

      April 2, 2011 at 3:19 pm |
    • sahsan

      @Charlie. The word Islam came from a root word "Salama" which means peace. Just see any Arabic dictionary and verify. So I did not lie. Also yes I have been learning Arabic and reading the Arabic version too. My conclusion is based on reading this book several times. People just highlight few extracts from it in wrong context without giving the pre-text and context and misguide people. There are such verses in Bible also if quoted in wrong context could mislead people. So by honest study of Quran and Hadith, one can see how peace ful Islam is. Just for example read the book of Imam Bukhari where he collected Traditions of Prophet about good manners and morals. Its a big book of several hundred pages and you'll be amazed how much emphasis has been on ultimate good morals and peace in Islam. Just for example according to Islam if someone's neighbor is hungary or not well, its an obligation for a person to take care of neighbor, otherwise the prayers will be rejected. So those who follow these principles are true Muslims. Those who don't follow, you can not blame a religion for their acts.

      April 2, 2011 at 4:59 pm |
  9. Jeus Is Lord

    CNN pushing the muslim agenda (again).

    Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to the Father in Heaven. All other paths lead to hell.

    April 2, 2011 at 2:34 pm |
    • peacppl

      you cant even spell Jesus fool

      April 2, 2011 at 2:39 pm |
    • PraiseTheLard

      CNN is not pushing a muslim agenda... they're simply doing a story on the intolerance of some Americans... Nothing new there... every non-conforming group has faced the welcoming (NOT) arms of so-called "real" Americans...

      By the way, there's no heaven, no hell, and no so-called "father" in the nonexistant heaven... they only exist in storybooks...

      April 2, 2011 at 2:40 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Lard, just because you don't believe, doesn't mean your soul is not going to fry for rejecting Jesus' truth with NO eternity for you. Wave to me from the other side of the divide when you get there.

      P.S. If you ever humble yourself to comprehend what Jesus teaches in the Bible, write back and let us know.

      Amen.

      April 2, 2011 at 3:30 pm |
    • Hopesforpeace

      Wow you scare me. I'm a Christian and am sad that you are pushing your religious belief on a public website. Didn't God say not to judge others and yet you clearly are? Be very careful what you say or preach because this will come back to you in one form or another in life, bless you. Love and respect is all the world needs.

      April 2, 2011 at 9:35 pm |
  10. peacppl

    ignorance is bliss for so many of you

    April 2, 2011 at 2:33 pm |
  11. Mike

    I don't understand these people.....they all point the finger at the United States for the way we live and the things we do...but yet they all want to come here and live ....what's up with that. Doesn't make sense.....

    April 2, 2011 at 2:32 pm |
    • Libby

      I would suggest Mike, that it's because in the US there is such an incredible abundance of natural resources, the ground beneath you is solid and isn't being ripped open by war, the roof over your head isn't going to come down on you as a bomb is dropped, you don't lie awake at night worrying about the front door being kicked in, the foundation of your society promises personal and religious freedom, education and health care–even in their present terrible state–are an embarrassment of riches compared to what's available in many countries around the world, and there is that all-powerful promises of opportunity.

      That these poor souls struggle to get to the US and then find that the reality doesn't live up to the dream and that they forever have to be looking over their shoulders as they try to also look to the future, is just a big, cruel, ironic joke. Don't you think it's actually very sad that they hold the US in such high regard, but find that they're not made welcome when they get there?

      The US is behaving as if it has the ultimate "small man complex". Shame.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
    • agreed

      Couldnt be said better. Perfect.

      April 2, 2011 at 3:16 pm |
  12. Jewish

    lol. such dumb people put there. If you are different thant others and you move to the south, you will be insulted. southerners are generally more ignorant and less exposed to other cultures than most.

    April 2, 2011 at 2:27 pm |
    • Mighty7

      The "Protestant" south. The "Catholic" south -Savannah, Charleston, Mobile, New Orleans, the coastal areas....etc – they tend to be very accepting and lose. Savannah has the largest Jewish community in the south and one of the oldest Synagogues in the US.

      Drive twenty minutes out in any direction outside of those places, it is one fat-fest of idiocy, herpes and Crackle Barrels.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
    • Rebecca

      verrrrry true!

      April 2, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Jewish, where are you from?

      Amen.

      April 2, 2011 at 3:13 pm |
  13. midwesterner

    Leave it to CNN to post an article sympathetic to a religion that breeds terrorism and the supression of women's rights.

    April 2, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
    • Edwin

      Islam is MANY DIFFERENT RELIGIONS!!! The terrorists and the moderate Americans who practice Islam have as much in common as your christian friends do with the pastors in Africa who actively murder children for practicing witchcraft.

      They are not the same religion - don't condemn them for the beliefs of others, even if the others CLAIM to have the same name for their religious views.

      April 2, 2011 at 3:09 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      midwesterner, I hate to break this news to you but God gave the hardest tasks to women in this world. All souls come from Him. When God destroyed the 1st age due to Lucifer rebelling against Him and taking 1/3 of His angels with him, God then created the world again (2nd earth age), allowing all souls to be born of woman. In the spiritual realm, our souls have no gender. God created male and female form so our souls could be fruitful and multiply and start creation over again to love and follow Him. God gave the most difficult task to those souls he put into the woman form.

      Finally, when we die, our souls go back to God, who created us. We are back in spiritual form again ... where there is NO gender.

      Amen.

      April 2, 2011 at 3:10 pm |
  14. sunnysue

    I wonder, at what point, women who cover themselves in this manner will understand that this is a very determined effort on the part of men to hide a woman's individuality as a human being. It makes her a sheep.

    April 2, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Covering a woman's head in scriptures means to instill Jesus' truth in your mind. To comprehend what He teaches and apply it to her life. To actually cover a woman's head is a sign of respect that she reads, comprehends and applies Jesus' teachings to her life, as well as ensuring her family/friends/neighbors do as well. Men take their hats off in church as a sign of respect that Jesus is the focal point, not anything that they wear. Same goes with being quiet in church and not to speak. For it is Jesus' truth that is to be heard and comprehended by all in attendance, not what others have to say.

      Amen.

      April 2, 2011 at 3:01 pm |
    • Magic

      "Same goes with being quiet in church and not to speak."

      I think that *everyone* should be quiet in church at all times - even the preacher. Just sit there and meditate, if you like, but quit spouting supernatural nonsense.

      April 2, 2011 at 3:06 pm |
    • TheFourBs

      God made women in perfect form, Man made bikinis to worship Gods work. Ladies, take it off and show gods work! Excepts for those ugly muslim women, you can stay wrapped up! They are gods mock up test version.

      April 2, 2011 at 3:07 pm |
    • Edwin

      Sunnysue: my other post got moderated for some reason, so I will give the abbreviated version.

      Those who wear clothes (other than shoes and perhaps a belt with pockets) do so because of modesty. Are you saying we are all sheep, except those who are nudists?

      April 2, 2011 at 3:07 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      I can see by the writings on this last post that the sins of pride and lust are blinding folks. Hormones going overboard, much?

      Amen.

      April 2, 2011 at 4:09 pm |
  15. chuckmartel2

    To heck with multiculturalism. Long live the Western European Christian Culture. I sick of everyone (all others) including our own trying to make us feel guilty for everything. Enough. We have a right to live the way we see fit like it or not by others. I will put up our culture against all others and see which has done Net More /Positive Good to the world. Bar none, we win every time. Pick your category.

    April 2, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
    • Mighty7

      We are not making feel anything. Yokels like you have been doing it all along. Now, go back the the Stromfront website and blow your fellow Aryans.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:32 pm |
    • harry

      when isee comments made by persons such as chuckmartel2, i begin to think that there is such a thing as Christianphobia and that there are such ignorant people.

      have mercy on all of us. Christians say that their religion is of peace but such hatred spewed by them in these comments makes me think otherwise.

      By the way i do follow rituals of any religion.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      As a practicing Christian that reads and comprehends the Bible, not to mention follow Jesus' truth, I honestly can say without hesitation that most (not all) but most of the non-believers on this site have made the most off the wall, ignorant comments I have ever read in my life and I must have 45 years on most of you.

      Amen.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:52 pm |
    • chuckmartel2

      Are you saying that there it is better to have a mixing bowl like america that say China, Sweden, India, France, etc. Who are you to say one is better than the other. Funny thing is I just wanted to see the reaction from using words like "European" etc. I'm from NYC and not religious. FYI I think all those that support any historical group such as KKK, White power stuff are insane and misguided as well as uneducated. Funny though how fast you jump to that conclusion as soon as someone hints that one culture (European) has been the leader of the free world and benefited mankind. I'd like to remind you that Americas makeup over the last 200 years have been English, French, Irish, German, Italian, Dutch, and other Euro zone nations, with a mix of Chinese and other Asian nations, and of course the local south / central American. Point is, look at our founding fathers! Then look at all other nations / cultures, and see who has done what. Americans/Europeans are first to help in time of need. First to invent, innovate, discover, create things or processes that benefit us and others. Get over it. I dont see many create things coming out of the rest of the continents over the last 200yrs other than their people fleeing abuse and tyranny. (Not until euros 200yrs ago).

      April 2, 2011 at 2:52 pm |
    • PeterVN

      Heaven's Loose Outer Sphincter, wow, then you've wasted 45 years of your "adult" life believing in the Christian fictions.

      April 2, 2011 at 3:17 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Peter, Jesus' teachings are the truth about life and the hereafter. Too bad that you non-believers are all egos, full of yourselves to not be able to read His truth that even a five year old understands because their mind hasn't been polluted by ego yet. You folks are like a shiny car with no engine. Looks good to you, but doesn't work.

      Amen.

      April 2, 2011 at 4:05 pm |
  16. Rebecca

    Being born and raised Christian it is sad to me to see people carry so much hate in their heart towards others. Let me remind you all of something. Jesus Christ did not preach to the those within his society what mainstream culture viewed as religious because he did not appreciate the ignorance or their lack of inclusion of others. Instead he preached to the gentiles who as we know were not the "chosen people of God." He taught a lesson of tolerence love and to turn the other cheek. He taught that let he who is without sin cast the first stone. And, he taught that love is a stronger force to win people over than hate. I am deeply saddened by the ignorant and racist comments. And, just to remind you all Jesus's mother Mary... She wore the veil. Imagine if she lived in this day and age. people would harm and harass her and say the same repulsive things that may of us have said about our fellow human beings in Islam. Look, I don't care if you agree with their religion or not, but none of us as human beings come with perfectly clean hands to look at any other human being in a high and mighty and boastful judgments. Let God be the one to judge and let worry about ourselves and our own families and teaching them the difference between right and wrong before we sit and judge others. And, for those that want to claim that they know the Bible let me remind you that Christianity actually required the veil before Islam. The Bible says and I quote, "Any man who prays or prophesies with his head covered brings shame upon his head. But any woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled brings shame upon her head, for it is one and the same thing as if she had had her head shaved. For if a woman does not have her head veiled, she may as well have her hair cut off. But if it is shameful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should wear a veil. A man, on the other hand, should not cover his head, because he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; nor was man created for woman, but woman for man; for this reason a woman should have a sign of authority on her head, because of the angels. Woman is not independent of man or man of woman in the Lord. For just as woman came from man, so man is born of woman; but all things are from God. Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head unveiled? Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears his hair long it is a disgrace to him, whereas if a woman has long hair it is her glory, because long hair has been given (her) for a covering? But if anyone is inclined to be argumentative, we do not have such a custom, nor do the churches of God (New American Bible translation)" So how hypocritical is it for us to debase people based on following orders that we ourselves should be following, but it is amazing how our society finds it completely normal for a woman to undress completely and that is the " norm" but it is not right for a woman to actually wear something so she can be judged for the content of her mind rather than her curves of her body ! What has happened to the world?!?! May God bless the Virgin Mary and her veil and all women that strive to emulate her GOOOOOOOD FOR YOU!!

    April 2, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
    • chuckmartel2

      Ask Christians living in the Middle East how they feel about Muslims? As for Jesus, how did that work out for him and others like him?

      April 2, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
    • PeterVN

      The buybull says all kinds of nasty stuff too, with lots of instructions for killing. Care to get into that too (while you relax under the shade of your "mustard tree"...)?

      April 2, 2011 at 2:31 pm |
    • Tell the TRUTH

      Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; hold to that which is good. Romans 12:19 we are TOLD TO HATE EVIL.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:33 pm |
    • chuckmartel2

      Until God comes down here to sort this out we will either have to go to our own corners and stay away from each other or Smith and Wesson (USA) will have to step in and deal with it.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
    • Joe

      Well said Rebecca. God bless you!

      April 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm |
    • Rebecca

      Evil is ignorance and hate..... Good is to " honor thy neighbor" and to let people who wear a veil out of modesty wear it in peace without having to suffer for the deeds of others.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Peter, give it a rest with you non-believers NOT knowing how to read the Bible. Many of you boast, but we have read the Bible, more than any Christian. I say to all of you, just because you read the words on it's pages, you haven't a clue to what is being taught. Why? Because you are so focused on mocking what is written, you are clueless to understand any of it's meaning. Any passage that explains stoning, aka put to physical death is because if parents allowed their children to be disobedient like you non-believers are, to run rampant with no respect for others, you'll eventually find yourself in trouble with the law. Today, we incarcerate those that refuse to live in harmony with others in society. Or, do you believe anyone should be allowed to steal what you worked for? Throw you out of your own home that you pay a mortgage on and just take over? Steal your car that you just paid off? Run to the bosses and tell lies about you so you can be fired and they can take your place? I can go on and on but the stoning is our death penalty today if someone takes a life of another and it was pre-meditated murder. Children in the Bible means everyone. Young and old. Man or woman. The child in those passages are probably someone in their 30s or 40s, not an infant or 5 year old.

      Wake up will you and get over your big ego so you can read with eyes to see the passages in the Bible.

      Amen.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
    • Rick

      Excellent excellent excellent!! God bless you!

      April 2, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
    • Tell the TRUTH

      You can't change God's word Rebecca,

      April 2, 2011 at 2:59 pm |
    • Edwin

      Rebecca: extremely well said. True christians should not hate muslims, because they should not fill themselves with hate. They should seek to UNDERSTAND their fellow humans, attack them.

      I am glad you are able to be a voice for your religion.

      April 2, 2011 at 3:01 pm |
    • TheFourBs

      I'll take bikinis, beaches, boats and beer any day.

      April 2, 2011 at 3:02 pm |
    • PeterVN

      A tiny fraction of the many nasty bits of the buybull, just to get rolling. So Christian, which poor animal did you bloodily sacrifice to your god today, as your book of evil instructs:

      Leviticus:

      # God gives detailed instructions for performing ritualistic animal sacrifices. such bloody rituals must be important to God, judging from the number of times that he repeats their instructions. Indeed the entire first nine chapters of Leviticus can be summarized as follows: Get an animal, kill it, sprinkle the blood around, cut the dead animal into pieces, and burn it for a "sweet savor unto the Lord." Chapters 1 – 9

      # "Kill the bullock before the LORD ... bring the blood, and sprinkle the blood round about upon the altar." 1:5

      # "Flay the burnt offering; cut it into pieces." 1:6

      # Lay ... the head, and the fat ... on the fire which is upon the altar: But his inwards and his legs ... burn all on the altar, to be a burnt sacrifice ... a sweet savour unto the LORD." 1:8-9

      # "Kill ... before the Lord and ... sprinkle blood round about." 1:11

      # "Cut it into his pieces, with his head and his fat ... and burn it ... for a sweet savour unto the Lord." 1:12-13

      # "If the burnt sacrifice ... be of fowls ... wring off his head, and burn it ... and the blood thereof shall be wrung out." 1:14-15

      # "For a sweet savour unto the Lord." 1:17

      # "Part it in pieces... it is a meat offering." 2:6

      # "It is a thing most holy of the offerings of the LORD made by fire." 2:10

      # "He shall lay his hand upon the head of his offering, and kill it ... and .... sprinkle the blood ... round about." 3:2

      # "The fat that covereth the inwards ... and the two kidneys ... and the caul above the liver.... It is ... a sweet savour unto the Lord." 3:3-5

      # "He shall lay his hand upon the head of his offering, and kill it ... and .... sprinkle the blood ... round about." 3:8

      # "The fat ... the whole rump ... the inwards ... the two kidneys ... burn it upon the altar: it is the food of the offering made by fire unto the LORD." 3:9-11

      # "If his offering be a goat ... he shall lay his hand upon the head ... and kill it ... and ... sprinkle the blood ... round about." 3:12-13

      # "The fat that covereth the inwards ... the two kidneys ... and the caul above the liver ... burn them upon the altar; it is the food of the ooffering made by fire for a sweet savour." 3:14-16

      # "All the fat is the Lord's."
      When you do your burnt offerings, remember that "all the fat is the Lord's." (And he doesn't like to share!) 3:16

      # "Kill the bullock before the Lord and take of the bullock's blood." 4:4

      # "The priest shall dip his finger in the blood and sprinkle the blood seven times before the Lord." 4:6

      # "Put some of the blood upon the horns of the altar ... and ... pour all the blood of the bullock at the bottom of the altar." 4:7

      # "Take ... all the fat of the bullock for the sin offering; the fat that covereth the inwards ... the two kidneys ... and the caul above the liver ... and ... burn them upon the altar of the burnt offering." 4:8-10

      April 2, 2011 at 3:14 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      PeterVN, go check about 20 articles ago. I posted the spiritual rituals of these scriptures. How Jesus Christ died for our sins and is our passover offerings. The ritual of the Kosher cleansing is also spiritual. At that time, there were different spiritual offerings ... but, since you haven't learned how to leave your carnal thinking behind, you have no clue what these scriptures are truly saying. Even so. No matter how many times a Christian explains anything to you non-believers, you still cut and copy these scriptures out of context, never to cross reference the Bible to understand anything being written. Too bad for you non-believers, not to any of us that believe Jesus' truth, took the time to study the Bible, comprehend what is written and apply it to our lives.

      Amen.

      April 2, 2011 at 3:57 pm |
  17. montyross

    wow its heresy for the dispress to quote the the bible but they eat this false "word" up like candy, bend over backwards to explain heresy; so this is what it is like to bite the hand that feeds you Christianity cant be wrong for our country otherwise it would have never survived for as long as it has

    April 2, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
    • Edwin

      If the length of survival of a religion is an indication of its truth, Christianity is nothing. Judaism and Hinduism have it beat by thousands of years. The history of Judaism, in particular, is filled with attacks and persecution of the true believers - if you think survival through suppression is an indicator of truth, you should be a devout jew, not a christian. After all, christians persecuted jews for the last thousand years, and Judaism survived...

      April 2, 2011 at 2:58 pm |
  18. Cruchot

    Muslims have not evolved since 622. Some are radicals, some are terrorists (supposedly in the name of God.) and the rest, the vast majority, are too stupid to realize the religion is sick. But when its all done, the muslim man likes to believe he's the chosen one to control his family.

    April 2, 2011 at 2:20 pm |
    • Mighty7

      That also applies for most of the Ozarks, Mississippi, Alabama, West Virginia and some places in Georgia.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      And you are telling everyone on this blog Cruchot, that you have personally met each and every single Muslim in the world, therefore, you know what you are writing. Boy, you must be popular. NOT.

      Amen.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:31 pm |
    • Edwin

      Cruchot: what evidence do you have the Islam has not changed since 622? I have STRONG EVIDENCE IT HAS. This article describes women who are much freer and more thoughtful than most American christians... are you saying that your understanding of Islam is better than theirs, even though they have actually studied it and you have not?

      Moderate muslims are not ignorant of their true religion: they DEFINE the truth in Islam as much as any other group. Their faith is open, questioning, intolerant of abuse, and very much in keeping with American ideals.

      If you want to hate Islamist extremists, fine. But don't condemn all muslims because you can't be bothered to learn about their faith.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:55 pm |
  19. chuckmartel2

    The day oil in mideast runs out is the day Islam fades forever.
    Those in the west will be chased out as our tolerance will have been used up just like the oil.

    April 2, 2011 at 2:20 pm |
    • harry

      this will not happens ( i mean the oil runs out) in your lifetime or the life time of your grandchildren or their grandchildren. Proven reserves of oil will last longer than that.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:31 pm |
    • Ibrahim

      islam does not have a direct correlation with the amount of oil we have... educate yourself.. or at least use some common sense...

      April 2, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
    • chuckmartel2

      Oil = $ and US presence in the mideast / muslim world. Remove OIL and USA will not be there and hence they will not have cash to fund the spread of islam to the west. via a network of orgs to do just that. where do you think all the cash to build mosques in the USA comes from. All that saudi money, not from oil, from what, tourism?

      April 2, 2011 at 2:59 pm |
  20. scoob766

    Are people angry that she doesn't want to be seen just for her looks? Big whoop, it's her choice. If she doesn't want to wear a mini skirt, go to a club and have relations with 17 different guys (14 of which she knows their name) it's her choice. Don't get mad at her, it's free choice.

    April 2, 2011 at 2:19 pm |
    • M.

      Well said.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
    • chuckmartel2

      No, we just like like Islam and what it stands for. AND those that support it. We don't tolerate the abuse of women, the tyranny they collectively impose on Christians, honor killings, sharia, stonings, and all the other abusive traditions Islam and Muslims believe in and act out. You would understand if you lived under their laws / culture. She represents everything wrong in Islam, the total loyalty to some religion above all else, brainwashing women from birth to submit. Etc. Men make all the rules and men rule the women with no mercy. After all, when was the last honor killing of a man, last stoning of a man etc?

      April 2, 2011 at 2:34 pm |
    • Joseph

      The Catholic church demanded women wear head scarfs for decades.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm |
    • L

      To enlighten you, there's a great gulf between the two extremes of wearing a hijab and "wearing a mini skirt, going to a club and having relations with 17 different guys (14 of which she knows their name)." As an American woman who dresses modestly (no miniskirts, no clubs) and acts modestly (no relations with 17 different guys), I and women like me are still the target of harassment by men. Should we all be forced to put on a hijab just to feel comfortable in our own skin? I don't think so. Yes, it is her choice. Your words, however, reveal your misogyny toward "regular" women like myself in society. The regular woman who is NOT dressing immodestly, clubbing or acting immodestly is still the target of inappropriate behavior by men. Educate yourself a bit.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:50 pm |
    • Edwin

      chuckmartin: the Islam she follows does not have the abusive properties you decry - she CHOSE to wear the scarf. If you read the article, you'd know that these women wear the scarf voluntarily, as a part of their faith.

      Your lumping of ALL muslims together and complaining about the most extreme ones is the same as me lumping all christians together and complaining how christians LAST YEAR murdered young children because they were supposedly possessed. (it happened in the name of Christ).

      The bottom line: Islam is MANY DIFFERENT FAITHS. Some may be abusive or intolerant, but not all. Some are open and tolerant, perhaps more so than modern christian faiths. Do not condemn what you do not understand.

      April 2, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
    • TruePath

      It is only a matter of time. ISLAM is the one true path and we MUSLIM are here to stay. We are going to use your own laws and beliefs to conquer you and your weak culture. We find it comforting to see so many of your own support your own destruction. The Great one is pleased with our work. Our numbers grow ever faster and one day soon we will be in power. Then sharia will be the one true law for all.

      April 2, 2011 at 3:11 pm |
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