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April 4th, 2011
10:47 AM ET
The Take: Zakaria on the Quran burningCNN's Fareed Zakaria discusses the Quran burning by an extremist Florida pastor and the violent reprisals in Afghanistan. Watch Fareed Zakaria GPS Sundays at 10am and 1pm ET. For the latest from Fareed Zakaria GPS click here. |
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Scientific Proof of the Existence of God
An interview with Amit Goswami
by Craig Hamilton
http://www.enlightennext.org/magazine/j11/goswami.asp
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Burning the Quran in America by a Christian Pastor, reflects to outer world that America is a Christian Country and Accepting such actions as a task of their policy to Islam...this what the uncontrolled misuse of the freedoms of speech generate for the American people and interests abroad...
Now who knows if this pastor was paid to do such act just to have the American forces be fought as being jihad against those who burned the Holy Quran and who make cartoon animations calling it the Islamic Prophet....
Such acts of organized insults does not serve any good for the western countries nor it would bring up any presumed peace and trust among nations in or out of America and Europe... There are people who are abusing your freedoms to jeopardize your wide interests in the Islamic World...
These acts were there only to heat up wars and conflicts into the countries that allowed it and against the foreign troops that are serving in the Islamic world,who are supposedly there to bring peace and fight terror? While Wars and Terrors are exported from their own countries in the name of freedoms of speech rather than (Freedom of Religious Disrespect)...
Producing and Exporting Weapons, Arms and Equipments of Wars to tyrants and to rebels....then they come with the stories on Human Rights, pretending to cry over the spilled milk....?? With out considering that such weapons would one day turn against them...in their countries or against their troops abroad....!?
Just wonder what is the actual story and purpose of igniting such acts protecting it under some legality? I know that freedom of speech means you could talk and debate with people....but it is no longer a freedom of speech when there it is to Curse and Insult Peoples freedoms of belief....where is the Moral behind that? Since each freedom has to have a Morality towards bringing people together in to one word of peace and respect...?! What we see today there is not any morality behind it but only to bring more hostility,hate,separation,disrespect and agony...? So it that the Human Rights you been advertising for ? And way is that only practiced against Muslims beliefs? See that the people of the Book already gave up on those making fun of every thing considered Holy to others beliefs...!
You mean they us this pro-pag-and-a of accusing the American President of being Muslim just in order to push him to turn the whole Islamic World into a HellFire just in order to prove to them all that he is no Muslim and careless about Islam and Muslims !?? Isn't that some sort of blackmailing the president and towards terrorizing Muslims pushing them to convert out of fear ??? Where is that freedom spoken of ? Burning a HolyScripture is Freedom of Speach, while Freedom of Worship and Religions has to suffer with less Freedom foundation..
It is just like saying to the President we will not keep you unless you wipe out Islam and Muslims to proof you are not one of them although we know that your Grandma is one of them and ought to wipe her out as well to prove your status !?!
Isn't that just like the Story of The Cow the Children of Israel had with Moses...it is in the Chapter 02: 67 to 74 of the Holy Quran..!!
Any way all we got to say is that;
Al-Baqara sura 02:
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
And surely We shall try you with something of fear and hunger, and loss of wealth and lives and crops; but give glad tidings to the steadfast, (155) Who say, when a misfortune striketh them: Lo! we are Allah's and lo! unto Him we are returning. (156) Such are they on whom are blessings from their Lord, and mercy. Such are the rightly guided. (157).
Al-Araf sura 07:
And Moses said unto his people: Seek help in Allah and endure. Lo! the earth is Allah's. He giveth it for an inheritance to whom He will. And lo! the sequel is for those who keep their duty (unto Him). (128).
I understand what the news commentator (MR. Fareed) is saying and I to as an African-American Muslim who is 20 years in the US Army condemns the killings. But do Muslims have to apologize for what a few ignorant people do. Why do not Christian leaders apologize for this pastor actions which cause the result of this horrifying action, or why do they not condemn the KKK, Neo-Nazi (who proclaim Christianity) and kill people, Sarah Palin and other politicians who smear hate and hide by hind Christianity, the Oklahoma City bombings, Atlanta Olympics bombings, Abortion Clinics bombing, and the list can go on and on, and I haven't began to cover past years of slavery and the civil rights movement, along with the Trial of Tears for the real true Americans (Indians).
By the grace and mercy of "ALLAH"; I be darn if I am going to apologize for these people actions. If that is the case, then Mr. Fareed as a news journalist should apologize for every time FOX news spreads untruth about minorities in America, Islam, and the President of the United States.
Responsibility starts with self first and foremost.
Words of man ?
Is it not that science is a word of man ,but you still believe in ?
Was not Philosophy and wisdom a word of man that you might be adapting in you life ?
Well my dear those Imams have derived their out spoken and written words from the knowledge they gained from the Holy Books that were the source of all developed knowledge that humanity is so proud of today although still couldn't explain major questions about the whole universe creations that we live floating within.
Science failed to translate the simple words given in the holy book's that had speaking to men of lesser mentality few thousands years back but managed to understand it and develop it into one day spoken of Islamic nations that has brought forward an advanced knowledge the basic of all present science and knowledge while the present century and modern man require's it in more advanced terms of words and into one international language,the modern languages of science or philosophy that modern scholars had failed to translate or explain bringing it forward to modern times understanding.
Most of the general knowledge and wisdom man has gained from those books mentioned by the Quran/Farqan;
"Al-Baqara sura 02:
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
Even as We have sent unto you a messenger from among you, who reciteth unto you Our revelations and causeth you to grow, and teacheth you the Scripture and wisdom, and teacheth you that which ye knew not. (151)."
"Al-E-Imran sura 03:
And He will teach him the Scripture and wisdom, and the Torah and the Gospel, (48)."
"Al-E-Imran sura 03:
Allah verily hath shown grace to the believers by sending unto them a messenger of their own who reciteth unto them His revelations, and causeth them to grow, and teacheth them the Scripture and wisdom; although before (he came to them) they were in flagrant error. (164)."
It is all in the Holy Books where a single word or a sentence could contains a whole many pictures as a hundred of words or sentences with in it and not just as a solid one word as one might think or find, this is not the least for the Arabic language,the poetry language of the area before it became of the Quran which certified for it self being landed in Arabic to defeat the best of poets of the Area with it's firmness and the challenge within it that even if they poets joined together with Jinn to bring a similar verses would fail to do so....;
"Yusuf sura 12:
Alif. Lam. Ra. These are verse of the Scripture that maketh plain. (1) Lo! We have revealed it, a Lecture in Arabic, that ye may understand. (2) We narrate unto thee (Muhammad) the best of narratives in that We have inspired in thee this Qur'an, though aforetime thou wast of the heedless. (3)."
"Ta-Ha sura 20:
Thus we have revealed it as a Lecture in Arabic, and have displayed therein certain threats, that peradventure they may keep from evil or that it may cause them to take heed. (113) Then exalted be Allah, the True King! And hasten not (O Muhammad) with the Qur'an ere its revelation hath been perfected unto thee, and say: My Lord! Increase me in knowledge. (114)."
"Az-Zumar sura 39:
And verily We have coined for mankind in this Qur'an all kinds of similitudes, that haply they may reflect; (27) A Lecture in Arabic, containing no crookedness, that haply they may ward off (evil). (28)."
Disbelief and laziness has over taken men of knowledge and scholars away from untangling the mysteries and the hidden secrets that are within the letters and words into more advanced modern terms that could be understood by scholars and nations bringing them into stimulating their debates and coordination towards perfection for the sake of science and knowledge that God wanted us to read and learn. After all we should remember that we are being challenged by God Almighty to go on discovering the universe,the heavens;
"Ar-Rahman sura 55:
O company of jinn and men, if ye have power to penetrate (all) regions of the heavens and the earth, then penetrate (them)! Ye will never penetrate them save with (Our) sanction. (33)."
That sanction is the science achieved which with out God's inspiration to us from his books might not be able to penetrate;
"Ta-Ha sura 20:
Then exalted be Allah, the True King! And hasten not (O Muhammad) with the Qur'an ere its revelation hath been perfected unto thee, and say: My Lord! Increase me in knowledge. (114)."
If we ought to accept the challenge then we are to take science in parall with the Holy Books,it is only then we would become to know which are the words of God and which are the words of men, we would become to know the truth from false...!!
The many translations of old testaments and what followed it might have made most words become words of man, since language to language might have made words solid if not different, therefore might have lost touch but no harm in trying.., while we find the case is quite different for the Arabic Quran which came as a "Forqan" meaning as a separator between truth and false of the elder holy books...
The Quran came in one Arabic language and in a very rich language, so why not science try to challenge those final scriptures,since only by that we will be able to tell the "Farqan" between the truth and false surrounding our lives..
Our confidence is from the confidence of our Written Holy Books that we submit to all of it's words and teachings for being of God the Creator of all that we know of and all that we do not know of..?
Al-Isra sura 17:
Say: Verily, though mankind and the jinn should assemble to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof though they were helpers one of another. (88) And verily We have displayed for mankind in this Qur'an all kinds of similitudes, but most of mankind refuse aught save disbelief. (89)..
Peace to all.
Brevity and Jesus are your find. You should look into both.
Amen.
Al-Baqara sura 02;
The messenger believeth in that which hath been revealed unto him from his Lord and (so do) believers. Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers – We make no distinction between any of His messengers – and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying. (285).
All about Islamic history:
http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/history/caliphs.htm
http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/history/umayyad.htm
http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/history/abbasid.htm
http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/history/ottoman.htm
Words of Wisdom:
Saving 1.5 billion lost Muslims:
There never was and never will be any angels i.e. no Gabriel, no Islam and therefore no more koranic-driven acts of terror and horror.
Saving 2 billion lost Christians:
There was and never will be any bodily resurrections i.e. No Easter, no Christianity
Saving 15.5 million Orthodox followers of Judaism:
Abraham and Moses never existed.
Added details upon request.
I think people who burn korans to make a statement are nuts. I think killing people in response is nuts. And atheists are the most untrusted group in America? I side with the atheists anyday, versus the religious loonies of any faith.
Did these pigs ever complain about the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddha statues in Afghanistan. Did the Hindus & Buddhists go around destroying & burning to protest the destruction of Buddha statues which are revered by Hindus & Buddhists. Muslims are barbarians, just like their pedaphile founder
BRAVO CNN FOR NOT PUBLISHING MANY OF MY COMMENTS JUST FOR EXPOSING YOUR AUTHOR, NONE OF WHICH HAVE BEEN EVEN REMOTELY DEROGATORY.
@Watchful eyes: That was the raeson I had to break down my respons into so many pieces, but still could not complete it thansk to CNN!
Amit-Atlanta-USA
We all know Mr. Fareed Zakaria condemned the killings, BUT AMERICANS WISH HE IS HONEST ABOUT IT!!! The Florida pastor's actions are a MINOR OFFENCE in comparison to the large scale burning of the Holy Bible, Churches, Temples, and killing/imprisonment of innocent minorities that goes on in Pakistan & the rest of the Muslim world on a daily basis. While the responsibility for the pastor's actions does not go beyond himself, the actions of the Islamic zealots in Pakistan and other Muslim countries go all the way from the mobs numbering 1000's or 10's of thousands indulging in such acts to the police, the government, judiciary who turn a blind eye. Even our SO-CALLED MODERATES (But in reality ISLAMIC SYMPATHISERS!!!) like Mr. FAREED ZAKARIA also have a role in stirring up the VOLATILE MUSLIM PSYCHE by DELIBERATELY holding all of America & the western world responsible for such irresponsible actions, while they show no such urgency with regard to the daily atrocities in their own Muslim lands.
It's time we condemn all such actions whether in America or in Pakistan with the same breath, and in PROPORTION to the criminal acts perpetuated!!!
Amit-Atlanta-USA
THE FOUR GREAT IMAAMS
IMAAM ABU HANIFAH (R.A.)
IMAAM MAALIK (R.A.)
IMAAM SHAFI’EE (R.A.)
IMAAM AHMAD (R.A.)
http://www.inter-islam.org/Biographies/4imam.htm
The Rightly-Guided Caliphs & The Four Imams
Contents
The First Caliph, Abu Bakr (632-634 A.C.)
The Second Caliph, 'Umar (634-644 A.C.)
The Third Caliph, Uthman (644-656 A.C.)
The Fourth Caliph, Ali (656-661 A.C.)
Abu Hanifa
Shafi'i
Malik
Ahmad
http://www.islamicweb.com/history/caliphs_imams.htm
A man went to Hazrat Ali Ben Abi Taleb and asked him the answers of the following four questions :
1. What is “Wajeb” (Obligatory) and what is”Awjab” (most obligatory).
2. What is “Qareeb” (Near) and what is “Aqrab” (nearest).
3. What is “Ajeeb” (strange) and what is “A’ajab” (strangest).
4. What is “Sa’ab” (difficult) and what is “Asa’ab” (most difficult).
Hazrat Ali replied as follows:
Obligatory is the obedience of God and most obligatory is to abandon sins.
Near is the Day of Judgment and nearest is the death.
Strange is this World and strangest is to love this world.
Difficult is grave and most difficult is going to it without preparation.
And once again the easy solution:
The Five Steps To Deprogram Muneef and 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:
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Are you ready?
Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.
The First Five of the 77 Branches:
"1. Belief in Allah"
aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your cleansing neurons.
"2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."
Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".
"3. To believe in the existence of angels."
A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.
"4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."
Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.
Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.
Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.
"5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) alone."
Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.
Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!
Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.
Analogous steps are available for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism at your request.