My Take: Jesus would believe in evolution and so should you
The most compelling evidence for evolution comes from the study of genes.
April 10th, 2011
01:00 AM ET

My Take: Jesus would believe in evolution and so should you

Editor's Note: Karl W. Giberson, Ph.D., is vice president of The BioLogos Foundation and is the author or coauthor of seven books, including The Language of Science and Faith.

By Karl W. Giberson, Special to CNN

Jesus once famously said, “I am the Truth.”

Christianity at its best embodies this provocative idea and has long been committed to preserving, expanding and sharing truth. Most of the great universities of the world were founded by Christians committed to the truth—in all its forms—and to training new generations to carry it forward.

When science began in the 17th century, Christians eagerly applied the new knowledge to alleviate suffering and improve living conditions.

But when it comes to the truth of evolution, many Christians feel compelled to look the other way. They hold on to a particular interpretation of an ancient story in Genesis that they have fashioned into a modern account of origins - a story that began as an oral tradition for a wandering tribe of Jews thousands of years ago.

This is the view on display in a $27 million dollar Creation Museum in Kentucky. It inspired the Institute for Creation Research, which purports to offer scientific support for creationism.

And it’s hardly a fringe view. A 2010 Gallup poll indicated that 4 in 10 Americans think that “God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so.” (http://www.gallup.com/poll/145286/four-americans-believe-strict-creationism.aspx)

While Genesis contains wonderful insights into the relationship between God and the creation, it simply does not contain scientific ideas about the origin of the universe, the age of the earth or the development of life.

For more than two centuries, careful scientific research, much of it done by Christians, has demonstrated clearly that the earth is billions years old, not mere thousands, as many creationists argue. We now know that the human race began millions of years ago in Africa - not thousands of years ago in the Middle East, as the story in Genesis suggests.

And all life forms are related to each other though evolution. These are important truths that science has discovered through careful research. They are not “opinions” that can be set aside if you don’t like them.

Anyone who values truth must take these ideas seriously, for they have been established as true beyond any reasonable doubt.

There is much evidence for evolution. The most compelling comes from the study of genes, especially now that the Human Genome Project has been completed and the genomes of many other species being constantly mapped.

In particular, humans share an unfortunate “broken gene” with many other primates, including chimpanzees, orangutans, and macaques. This gene, which works fine in most mammals, enables the production of Vitamin C. Species with broken versions of the gene can’t make Vitamin C and must get it from foods like oranges and lemons.

Thousands of hapless sailors died painful deaths scurvy during the age of exploration because their “Vitamin C” gene was broken.

How can different species have identical broken genes? The only reasonable explanation is that they inherited it from a common ancestor.

Not surprisingly, evolution since the time of Darwin has claimed that humans, orangutans, chimpanzees, and macaques evolved recently from a common ancestor. The new evidence from genetics corroborates this.

Such evidence proves common ancestry with a level of certainty comparable to the evidence that the earth goes around the sun.

This is but one of many, many evidences that support the truth of evolution - that make it a “sacred fact” that Christians must embrace in the name of truth. And they should embrace this truth with enthusiasm, for this is the world that God created.

Christians must come to welcome - rather than fear - the ideas of evolution. Truths about Nature are sacred, for they speak of our Creator. Such truths constitute “God’s second book” for Christians to read alongside the Bible.

In the 17th century, Galileo used the metaphor of the “two books” to help Christians of his generation understand the sacred truth that the earth moves about the sun. “The Bible,” he liked to say, “tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens ago.”

To understand how the heavens go we must read the book of Nature, not the Bible.

The Book of nature reveals the truth that God created the world through gradual processes over billions of years, rather than over the course of six days, as many creationists believe.

Evolution does not contradict the Bible unless you force an unreasonable interpretation on that ancient book.

To suppose, as the so-called young earth creationists do, that God dictated modern scientific ideas to ancient and uncomprehending scribes is to distort the biblical message beyond recognition. Modern science was not in the worldview of the biblical authors and it is not in the Bible.

Science is not a sinister enterprise aimed at destroying faith. It’s an honest exploration of the wonderful world that God created.

We are often asked to think about what Jesus would do, if he lived among us today. Who would Jesus vote for? What car would he drive?

To these questions we should add “What would Jesus believe about origins?”

And the answer? Jesus would believe evolution, of course. He cares for the Truth.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Karl W. Giberson.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

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  1. Jeff

    And how did God get created? Oh he just is God and has always been here. But life can't start from a chemical spark, only God can create life? So that is pathetic and niave that God creates life but he is just here?

    Religion is for the weak, who need to feel that they need a greater power to take care of them.

    April 10, 2011 at 6:30 pm |
    • Cris Craft

      how did God get created?
      Jeff, think about what you said. If God was created then whoever created him is really God. And if God came from the ooze like evolutionists think then you have to ask who made that ooze. Somebody had to make the stuff we see, it didn't just magically appear.

      April 10, 2011 at 7:49 pm |
    • sobe4you

      so jeff your willing to believe one senerio but not the other?

      April 10, 2011 at 7:49 pm |
  2. Katie

    Ok I'm sorry, but wasn't Galilleo banished form the Christian church for heresy cuz he said the Earth revolved around the sun? And haven't scientists of all ages been persecuted and excommunicated by the Christians for their "heretical" ideas, i.e. ideas that challenged the Christian view of the world? Denying evolution is no different, just another form of ignorance and fear.

    April 10, 2011 at 6:28 pm |
    • sobe4you

      katie in all honesty isn't the scientific world doing the same thing to christians when they can actually go together

      April 10, 2011 at 7:29 pm |
  3. Jason Baker

    This is an article that explains the co-habitation of religion and science. Most of you on here are using this comment board to express your complete doubt and distain for a belief in God. DID YOU READ THE ARTICLE? He makes the case that one does not contradict the other. I am a Christian. (Mormon) And I believe in evolution. I also believe that we dont know everything about the origin of man. Jesus Christ is the son of God. We come from Heavenly Father. And I have no problem seeking additional scientific truth, embracing evolution and maintaining a belief in God. And guess what..... I AM CORRECT.

    April 10, 2011 at 6:27 pm |
  4. zero74

    Who believes in that evolution garbage. It's a bunch of hocus pocus filled theories that don't add up. Everyone knows god created us out of thin air... it states it in the bible so it has to be true.

    April 10, 2011 at 6:25 pm |
  5. Bill

    I believe that Jesus would believe in evolution. Physical animals have evolved – including us. But Consciousness is eternal. We are consciousness living in the physical world – having a worldly experience. But just as our physical matter evolves, so is our realization of consciousness – and less dependence and need for our physical self. So while machines evolve, and may some day, some say, will rule the physical world, we too, humans, will evolve to pure consciousness, and not need our physical body – and perhaps adopt a new form.

    April 10, 2011 at 6:23 pm |
  6. DB

    "The Bible teaches us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens move".
    Those words were first used by Galileo and repeated by John Paul II when he exhonerated Galileo in 1979.

    April 10, 2011 at 6:21 pm |
    • Cris Craft

      Ps 104 verse 5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.
      The above verse was mis-interpreted as we can easily see. We do understand that the planets all revolve around the sun in some established orbit and that is all this verse meant. Some people read into it that the earth was the center of the universe but it may still be called the center of the universe because God's crowning creation "man" is on this planet. Man was made in the image of God and for that reason you could say that earth is the "center" of the universe.

      April 10, 2011 at 7:55 pm |
    • Shah

      Anon wrote:"Indeed, if we hold to the tinaitrodal creed, we are almost forced to conclude that Jesus shared the cosmological and scientific mistakes of his age."Thatb4s a nice way of putting the thing to rest. Maybe we could excuse the Lord of the Universe while walking here on earth for teaching us that sickness is linked to sin, that epileptics are posessed by demons or that his Father is fed up with the way he has put his own creation in motion and has to redesign everything from scratch. But I think it will be harder for us to excuse the Lord of the Universe for still having problems in separating fact from fiction when after his resurrection he has reached the seventh heaven and joined hands with the other couple in the Holy Trinity. Ib4m reminded of the Lord of the Universeb4s meeting with some of his hardheaded disciples on the road to Emmaus in Luke 24:25. I quote what the Lord of the Universe has to say: "O fools, with hearts so slow to believe everything the prophets have spoken! Did not Christ have to suffer all this and enter into his glory? Then beginning at Moses and through all the prophets he explained to them all the scriptures that referred to him" Sometimes I have this farcical dream where one of the deans among christian exegetes, Joseph Fitzmyer, finally reaches the seventh heaven to meet his Lord only to have to pluck his book "The one who is to come" out of his pocket and put his Lord on the schoolbench to convince him that those verses in the books of Moses, Isaiah and Daniel are not really about his resurrected Lord after all 😉

      March 2, 2012 at 5:39 am |
  7. Jeff

    The truth is Religion is for the weak. Weak people need to believe there is something higher to protect them. Additionaly, why is there so many different religions? The people of the world can't even agree on one belief, one god?

    With Science there are no beliefs only what the evidence shows as truth!

    April 10, 2011 at 6:19 pm |
  8. Rose

    John 1 states that Jesus made everything. Therefore, Jesus would not believe in evolution – especially since all those DNA blueprints were designed by Jesus and Jesus knows every cell and hair we have.

    If you compare living beings to a manufacturing facility where a certain percentage of manufactured items have defects and then look at how few defects relatively speaking that exist in living beings, from single cells to huge whales, any manufacturing facility making anything would be hard put to beat the percentage of defects that are found in nature.

    7 billion people with everything their genes say should be there – according to the Evolutionists, chance is a great god who over billions of years makes extremely complicated living machines "just happen" via miraculous evolutions.

    These same evolutionists would never say anything complicated that humanity ever built just happened like a Boeing 747 airplane – a flying machine that weighs over 600,000 pounds or the Taj Mahal but they in the infinite wisdom that they perceive themselves as having, say that living machines far more complicated than anything humanity has ever built – just happened guided by "chance".

    Romans 1 explains evolutionists.

    April 10, 2011 at 6:19 pm |
  9. Ituri

    Why do people not GET this?

    You do not "believe" in science.

    You KNOW science. You UNDERSTAND science.

    Those who think science is up to their belief do not know or understand science or the scientific method.

    Get it through your thick, religiously zealotous skulls, okay? You don't have the option of cherry picking the science you LIKE and DISLIKE. Its all science, like it or not, whine till the moon is blue, nothing will change that.

    April 10, 2011 at 6:19 pm |
    • DB

      Yes indeed! Some folks just don't have the capacity to seperate FACT from FICTION. Or they are just too LAZY to read!

      April 10, 2011 at 6:43 pm |
  10. BENJI

    Considering Jesus CREATED EVERYTHING, I highly doubt He would believe in this garbage.

    April 10, 2011 at 6:18 pm |
    • Kalo

      Jesus didn't create everything, God did; but if you wish to make the Holy Trinity argument at least mention that rather than sounding like someone who isn't aware of their own religion but just rehashing what they were brought up in.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:35 pm |
    • DB

      Yeah, God did. The question is fool, is how did he do it? Oh, you maybe one of those folks who don't want to understand how 1+1=2.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:39 pm |
    • Chakka

      I always wondered–isn't it hard to breathe with your head stuck in the sand like that?

      April 10, 2011 at 6:45 pm |
  11. DB

    "The Bible teaches us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens move".
    Those words were first used by Galileo and repeated by John Paul II when he exhonerated Galileo in 1979.

    April 10, 2011 at 6:16 pm |
  12. Rob

    This debate often makes me laugh since I honestly think both sides are correct. Time by definition is relative to the location of matter.(The second is the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium 133 atom.) OK so, the universe is expanding, a fact scientist by in large agree on. Well Lets venture to say we all started in one place (Kolob maybe?) in a much smaller more dense form than we are today, there version of a day would be millions of year in todays time! Is it possible that relative to where we are at now the earth is millions of year old, but relative to the current time of the period creation took seven days? Yes. For more info please check out "The Science of God" by Gerald L Schroeder. Bantam Doubleday Dell Publishing Group 1998.

    April 10, 2011 at 6:15 pm |
  13. sobe4you

    there is going to come a time when several centuries later, people are going to think 9-11 was a myth something that never happened, just because they weren't around to experience it. But just because they weren't there, does that make them right? No one around that is alive today was when the earth was created, so who can say God wasn't the creator

    April 10, 2011 at 6:13 pm |
    • Kyle

      No one is saying that God is not the creator. Evolution and Creationism do not conflict except when the Book of Genesis is taken literally. If God created the Last Universal Common Ancestor (LUCA) as evolution predicts, and this ancestor, over billions of years, slowly speciated into the vast number of species that are seen today, including humans, can you not still say that God created Man? You can.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:51 pm |
  14. Cris Craft

    Clearly the author has no clue who Jesus is. Jesus believes in creation, Jesus stated this in the Bible numerous times because he created everything that exists and He created all physical laws; He also made all living things the same way. He made it all from nothing but His own power and with His spoken words and He did it in six 24 hour days. Science agrees with this unless you twist it beyond recognition to the point where it is no longer science. The only reason; yes, the ONLY reason that false scientist persist in "belief" in something they call evolution is the fact that they refuse to give credit to the creator of the universe because they don't want to have to live their lives according to His plan for them. This of course means that they will burn in hell forever and this is also in the Bible. You don't have to believe it but it is true anyway and it cannot be changed. If you want to really understand science and live a great life where you can live in peace and harmony then accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour and you also get to go to Heaven when you die. Don't bother arguing with me on this, I'm not interested, go read the Bible and learn for yourself just like I did.

    April 10, 2011 at 6:09 pm |
    • airwx

      Dear Cris... the concept of a 6 day creation is based on a tradtional translation of the word YOM used in Genesis. It can mean either a 24 hour day or an unspecified amount of time. If you study the history of the King James translation you will find the use of a 24 hour day was questioned by the translators. It only came into use as a 24 hour day based on the use of YOM in other locations where a numerical adjective was used with the word YOM and a 24 hour day was a logical thought. There is no other reason than that to accept a 6 day creation story. If you understand that each Yom is undefined in the text, and understand that chapter 1 vs 3 is the Son not the sun...if you understand the vs 1 deals with the speaking (breathing) time, the lofty place (heaven is a poor translation, actually spatial relationships is closer to the original) and "the firm" ( best translated as dust ie matter) then the Genesis is starts to make more sense than any atheist will be able to deny.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:22 pm |
    • Colonelingus

      It's simple minded people like you who genuinely scare me. When a supposed adult with a mind that is supposed to be capable of reason, believes in a heaven and hell and that if you don't live your life according to some book, that you will suffer eternal damnation, please let me rock your world by telling you that there also is no such thing as Santa, the Easter bunny or the Tooth Fairy as well. And no I'm not going to argue with you either. I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:42 pm |
    • Brian

      "..go read the Bible and learn for yourself just like I did"

      Ok, but if we're trading reading lists:
      How Science Works: Evolution: A Student Primer [Paperback] R. John Ellis
      How Does Earth Work? Physical Geology and the Process of Science (2nd Edition) [Paperback] Gary Smith

      Let us all know if you're confused, ok?

      April 10, 2011 at 6:43 pm |
    • Cris Craft

      Talking to some of you are about as smart as a fence post. I wont waste my time. As for one person who tried to sound intelligent. Yes I've heard about translation disagreements but it is VERY CLEAR in scripture and without doubt that God meant to say six 24 hour days and yes this is scientific.

      April 10, 2011 at 7:14 pm |
    • Cris Craft

      Airwx, I should add that it is important to remember that an athiest doesn't need any convincing. They only believe what they do to comfort the little bit of a conscience that they have left in themselves. The goal of an athiest is to put themselves in charge of their lives. They don't want to answer to God because they would have to change their selfish life style. My goal is to put the truth out there and it is then up to God to draw those who He deems for whatever reason worthy to be called to Himself. The Bible tells us "No one can come to Me, unless the Father who sent Me draw him: and I will raise him up on the last day." (John 6:44). We never want to change the truth of God into something that we happen to believe in 2011 is more acceptable to modern thinking people. God also tell us in Rev. 22: "18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book." We should note that this applies to any part of scripture.

      April 10, 2011 at 7:31 pm |
  15. David Hernandez

    Science, the suppose answer to all things and the one constant that is always agaisnt the belief of a Supreme Being. Yet, to al lthe scientist of the world I ask a simple question. Nothing happens without a reason, two molecules do not just roam around space for no reason somthing is making the molecules move, you can call it whatever you want but something is making the molecues move. In the Big Bang molecules got together and Boom creation started according to science, the question i ask is what or who made the molecues move and get together for the big boom. Science can say all it wants but there are things that science can not answer no matter how hard it tries to and when a miracle happens right in front of it's face that had no science attached to it the belief in God is still questioned.

    April 10, 2011 at 6:08 pm |
    • Brian

      That's the fallacy handed to you by your church. The fact is that most scientists DO believe in god. Science attempts to explain HOW things happen (how the earth came to be, how species came to be, how everything works, etc.). As far as WHO and WHY; these are questions that science does not attempt to address; science simply admits that they don't know the answers because no evidence has ever been discovered. Answering the WHO and WHY (with no evidence) is the purpose of religion.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:29 pm |
  16. Evodevo

    There are so many misunderstandings and evidence of muddled thinking here that I do not know where to begin. I like to think that this is a joke... one way or another it IS.

    April 10, 2011 at 6:01 pm |
  17. JB

    hmmm....could it be that science is God's way of explaining what He has done? The bible was written in a time when scientific knowledge was just above absolute zero and therefore it had to be written in a simplistic manner that all could comprehend; young and old, intelligent and illiterate... Now that humanity has reached a greater level of understanding perhaps God has thought – "You want answers, well, the evidence is all around you – figure it out..."

    April 10, 2011 at 6:00 pm |
    • Brian

      Good point. So it's clearly time for BIBLE 2.0. Problem is, I don't see God showing up to write (or at least edit) the new edition. Someone as all knowing as him must realize that he'd solve a lot of arguments by writing a new edition, but he's silent. Guess that's not a concern? Or, he's not there?

      April 10, 2011 at 6:23 pm |
    • Chakka

      Oh, yeah...sure... and I suppose your supreme being magically blocks science from discovering his true form?

      April 10, 2011 at 6:32 pm |
    • Ian

      Thank you JB. I'm currently a student at the University of Chicago and also believe in a supreme being. Throughout my classes in biology, philosophy, and geology information was given to us that at times made me think, "Is there really a God if all of these 'truths' are real." Reading through all the atheistic comments here were unsettling and unpersuasive, until I got to yours. Everything you said falls in line with my personal beliefs and the the new knowledge I have been gained throughout school. The fact is, God is a being that possess infinite knowledge, so this knowledge is all around us. As finite creatures, to understand God fully is to understand infinite knowledge. Humans have come no where close to that feat in science, but I do believe that science slowly chips away at infinite knowledge that God possess and has enforced upon this universe. Thank you, and have a wonderful day.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:57 pm |
  18. MT

    If Jesus believed this, then he didn't believe himself (see below). If that's true, who cares what Jesus thought. If he did believe what he said, then we need to take head. Either way, this author can't argue either side properly and he's a waste of time.
    Mark 10:5 "And Jesus said to them, “Because of your ​hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment. 6 But f​rom the beginning of creation, ‘God made them ​male and female.’"

    April 10, 2011 at 5:58 pm |
    • Steven

      1 – Jesus is Truth
      2 – Jesus believed the earth was flat
      3 – The earth is round
      4 – Jesus is wrong and therefore 1 cannot be correct

      Therefore, Jesus is NOT Truth after all.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:08 pm |
    • airwx

      @Steven... please go read The Sceptics Field Guide....you managed create fallicies out of thin air!

      April 10, 2011 at 6:11 pm |
    • Steven

      @Airwx: And which fallacy did I make? I understand that you may not like what I write, but if you want to trash the content of my messages, please be at least specific instead of making a gratuitous Ad Hominem attack.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:16 pm |
    • Cavlin

      Steven, how do you KNOW that Jesus believed that the world was flat? Have you met him?

      April 10, 2011 at 6:28 pm |
    • Steven

      Inferred from Matthew 24:29:
      "Immediately after the distress of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken."
      There are other passages as well, but I like that one because it is so obvious. If he had said that stars and galaxies (that he probably never knew even existed) would collide and engulf the earth, it would have been pretty insightful.

      But what he said implied he believed stars were little dot in the heaven that would fall (instead of collide) on the earth that therefore had to be flat. This is not surprising honestly as it matches what one would expect from uneducated people to believe during those times. In other words, Jesus was nothing out of the ordinary and certainly not the Truth and the God that purportedly created the universe.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:51 pm |
  19. Capt. Huffnpuff

    God took billions of years? Jesus believes in the "truth". How about just accepting that there is no supernatural or mystical expanation necessary for the origin of the world and its creature?

    April 10, 2011 at 5:57 pm |
    • Steven

      I guess that some people are either utterly brainwashed to dare even considering that possibility or they have not grown up past the age of 6.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:05 pm |
    • airwx

      I would point out one small detail....Time is in our dimensional structure...billions of years only relates to human experience and if the first verse of Genesis is correct the God created time and is thus not subject to "billions of years"

      April 10, 2011 at 6:07 pm |
    • Steven

      Airwx: A simpler explanation is that God & Genesis are invented stories by long dead people in an attempt to explain the world around them.

      After all, if God exists, why does he behaves as if he does not exist?

      April 10, 2011 at 6:13 pm |
  20. leryeh

    It is foolishness to dispute what God says even if we are able to boil water to a thousand degree. Our knowledge is very limited and that is evidenced by the limitation of our years. What will science says happen after death?
    Those who perpetrate the theory of evolution are nothing but liars who makes use of the word ‘billions of years’ (no actual figures). I have watched chimpanzees in zoos and they die without any biotransformation to another human being neither has evolutionist shown one that has biotransformed itself to humans. Science gives evidence of the law of motion but have not evidenced any microbes transforming into any other species.
    Science uses the word darkness, but in reality science doesn’t have anything called darkness but intensity of light. If you sit down and read your bible carefully, you’ll find that ‘the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: (Romans 1:18-20). You can say a lot of science to disprove God while you’re alive, the aftermath of your death will be late to retract your theories.
    God made light and it gives us ability to see clearly, science made light and darkness still overshadows over electric bulbs. Science should understand its limitations while we appreciates it benefits.

    April 10, 2011 at 5:53 pm |
    • Alicia

      Love this!

      April 10, 2011 at 5:59 pm |
    • Steven

      Why God won't heal amputees? Because God is a man-made myth, that's why. People need to grow up. The God myth is for little children.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:03 pm |
    • MIke

      Your an idiot. There is a mountain of evidence from many different branches of science like geology, anthropology, molecular biology and DNA evidence that all support evolution. There are NUMEROUS transitional fossils. Please pull your nose out of the bible into a science book or two.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:04 pm |
    • Andy

      It's far from foolish to believe what god said when there is no god other then the one invented by humans looking for a way to gain control over the masses. Religion in all forms is just one mass brainwash that works on people that are either too scared or too stupid to grasp the realities of the universe.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:06 pm |
    • Josh

      Your insane. Religion is a sickness. Grow up.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:10 pm |
    • jdoe

      Uh... Evolution takes place over generations, not within a lifetime. Expecting a chimp to transform into a human is downright idiotic.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:13 pm |
    • Brian

      Come on everyone let's not attack "leryeh". Choosing to be religious (or not) is an argument for another day. Here we are merely stating the obvious fact that evolution is real; that the world took billions of years to create; and that these two facts DO NOT contradict religious faith. You can believe in science AND ALSO believe in Christianity (not my choice, but that is not relevant). leryeh, I am sorry to tell you this, but your post makes you look like an idiot. Evolution, Geology, Astronomy, etc. all have "theories" about the origins of the universe, the earth and man that in as much doubt as the theory of gravity. To doubt these scientific facts when confronted with the mountain of evidence that exists, and continues to be discovered, simply proves that while you have clearly only read one book in your entire life; you have listened to many preachers' thoughts about science texts.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:17 pm |
    • Jeff


      Please stop making Christians look stupid. We do that often enough without your help.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:21 pm |
    • Sam

      You are not a smart person. A monkey is not going to wake up one morning and decide to turn into a human that is not how evolution works. You're god isn't real and Jesus was a nut job.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:25 pm |
    • rh

      Your lack of knowledge about evolution is astounding. Things don't 'biotransform' (a word I'm pretty sure you made up) they evolve many smaller features over incredibly lengthy stretches of time. No evolutionist believes that chimpanzees magically transform into people.
      The only thing more appalling than your lack of knowledge about evolution and religion is the fact that you don't even understand the English language. Learn how to write in complete and organized sentences before you go spewing your moronic beliefs.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:27 pm |
    • JPC

      "Those who perpetrate the theory of evolution are nothing but liars who makes use of the word ‘billions of years’ (no actual figures)."

      This proves absolutely nothing except that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

      In case anybody thinks there are "no actual figures," here are some actual dates made of meteorites (which date to the formation of the solar system), made using five independent techniques (which can be compared to each other to check for consistency of results – if something were wrong, the ages derived by different methods would fail to agree) ("GY" = 1 billion years):

      St. Severin (ordinary chondrite)
      Pb-Pb isochron – 4.543 +/- 0.019 GY
      Sm-Nd isochron – 4.55 +/- 0.33 GY
      Rb-Sr isochron – 4.51 +/- 0.15 GY
      Re-Os isochron – 4.68 +/- 0.15 GY

      Juvinas (basaltic achondrite)
      Pb-Pb isochron ..... 4.556 +/- 0.012 GY
      Pb-Pb isochron ..... 4.540 +/- 0.001 GY
      Sm-Nd isochron ..... 4.56 +/- 0.08 GY
      Rb-Sr isochron ..... 4.50 +/- 0.07 GY

      Allende (carbonaceous chondrite)
      Pb-Pb isochron ..... 4.553 +/- 0.004 GY
      Ar-Ar age spectrum ..... 4.52 +/- 0.02 GY
      Ar-Ar age spectrum ..... 4.55 +/- 0.03 GY
      Ar-Ar age spectrum ..... 4.56 +/- 0.05 GY

      "No actual figures," indeed.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:34 pm |
    • Religilous

      Believing in God Is like believing in Santa Clause its just a myth!!!

      April 10, 2011 at 6:35 pm |
    • Kyle

      First, humans have not evolved from chimpanzees. This is the second time I've said this in a reply and it's really said that people think this because it displays the minute knowledge of what evolution is. The theory of evolution holds that chimpanzees and humans share a common ancestor that lived thousands of years ago. This ancestor underwent genetic change because of selective pressure from the natural world. Chimpanzees, gorillas and other primates all share this common ancestor, that continued to change and diverge into the species seen today. Were you really expecting a chimpanzee to transform in front of your eyes? From your comment, I can infer that you were which is beyond sad. Please take the time to learn evolution before hopelessly discrediting it after a trip to the zoo, when people have supported it for over a hundred years with research and evidence.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:36 pm |
    • Zar

      Disbelief of The Law of Evolution is synonymous with disbelief of The Law of Gravity. The real question is do yo believe in Jesus? Science pointedly demonstrates that his existence is quite dubious.

      My question, how can theists believe in something they have not researched themselves? Faith? Then you abolish science altogether!

      Science and theist religion are incompatible.

      April 10, 2011 at 6:43 pm |
    • John Lee

      I support you!, Jesus is the king of the world, soon he will come back to judge us all. Believe in him and you will be saved. by the way who is the author of journal? who is he to say what Jesus would think of evolution and make conclusion that he will accept evolution? We christians need more journals out there to defend bible to the world!!!!!!!!

      April 10, 2011 at 6:45 pm |
    • Steven

      @ John Lee: Mathew 16:28 "I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."

      That was 2000 years ago and I can guarantee you that all standing there have long been dead. And where is the Son of Man? Nowhere, to be seen. Therefore:

      1 – Either Jesus was a liar
      2 – Either he was mistaken
      3 – Either he never said those words
      4 – Either he never existed

      April 10, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
    • Alicia

      Steven~ Matthew 16:28 refers to the transfiguration of Christ that occurs in Matthew 17, which some of his disciples (Peter, James, and John) witnessed. The transfiguration was a vision, for them, of the second coming of Christ (they saw Him standing in his glory with Moses and Elijah). It does not mean that Christ would come into his kingdom in their lifetime.

      April 10, 2011 at 7:29 pm |
    • Steven

      Alicia, are you familiar with the special pleading fallacy? You are committing it right now.

      Because the world obviously did not end as Jesus predicted, later Christians said it was not what Jesus had meant. Sorry, but if Jesus had meant something else, he would have made it clear. I am truly sorry but Jesus was wrong.

      April 10, 2011 at 7:36 pm |
    • Alicia

      No, I don't believe that I am. The bible is not an easy book to read or to understand, but the answers are there. Everything that Jesus said would come to pass, came to pass, except for the end of days (so far). It is not a book that can be taken literally word for word, there are many hidden meanings. You cannot also quote only one verse without taking into consideration the verses both before and after. You lose the context.

      April 10, 2011 at 7:49 pm |
    • Steven

      Special pleading means that you are asking the listener to do you a special favor, to exempt yourself from a certain rigor. Early Christians clearly expected the world to end soon. As the time passed and nothing happened, they had to explain away the apparent words of Jesus in the gospels. When you have to explain away something, that's special pleading. It is not necessarily wrong but it is a huge red flag. The explanation you are providing is a lot more complex that the original meaning. I don't believe God wants to led us astray. God does not need nor want to make its message hard to understand. The simplest meaning is virtually always the right one. We just have to accept that at least part of the bible is wrong. Either the authors were wrong, their recollections were wrong or Jesus was not who we think he was.

      April 10, 2011 at 8:05 pm |
    • Steven

      Alicia, regarding the context, you are probably not familiar with it. There is no Matthew 16:29 and Matthew 16:27 says: "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what he has done." which is a clear depiction of the end of the world and the return of Jesus to properly judge everybody.
      Why do believers think that the word of the Lord is in fact a riddle and not meant to be understood for what it really says is beyond me

      April 10, 2011 at 8:14 pm |
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