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April 25th, 2011
01:41 PM ET

Billboard battle over Judgment Day

(CNN) - We've told you about the caravan of RVs touring the country to warn people about the end of the world, which they say will begin on May 21.

Now, the American Atheists are mounting a counter-campaign.

The group has posted a billboard in Oakland, California - home to Family Radio, which is spreading the "awesome news" that Judgment Day is near - declaring that such messages are "nonsense."

"The Rapture: You KNOW it's Nonsense," the American Atheists' billboard announces. "2000 Years of 'Any Day Now.'"

The billboard - which cost $27,000, according to the group's website - invites passers-by to "Learn the Truth" at the group's "Rapture Party" on May 21-22 in Oakland.

The atheists also plan to hold parties in Houston, Texas, and Fort Lauderdale, Florida, the website says.

"This is how religion hurts people, one of the many ways religion hurts people," American Atheists President David Silverman told CNN Oakland, California, affiliate KGO.

"Our hope is that those who are not suckered in will learn from the people who are."

Read the full story at KGO's website.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Atheism • Death • End times

soundoff (2,436 Responses)
  1. Famous_amos

    Why is it, do you suppose, that most Atheists happen to more about religion than most religious folk? What a funny thing.

    April 25, 2011 at 10:29 pm |
  2. jeff

    The Bible mentions this event "coming as a thief" and that GOD's perspective on time is a bit more "big picture" than we little humans. Why do.....so call "Christains" think they can guess at this event? They are fooled into it! Thier passion gets hyjacked by those with quick wit and retarded knowledge of the Bible (if you have a problem with the word retarded...I don't care...get over it). GOD gave us an amazing power called critical thinking. Use it! By the way if this guy selling t-shirts.....put me down for an XXL in grey (short sleave). I'll have a big laugh on May 22...and so will GOD!

    GOD just loves practical jokes...I mean just look at Pat Robertson....he always makes me laugh at his stupid comments.

    April 25, 2011 at 10:08 pm |
  3. Jeffrey

    DNA is a code.. creation of a code requires thought.. DNA Code must have a creator.. no code has ever been discovered that was not designed by someone.. show any message that does not come from a mind..

    The big bang.. was brilliance .. At first there was a thought, this thought was with God.. out of this thought developed sound.. the sound was self refrence of that thought.. it created space and its energetic equivalent time & light.. the very word of God created meaning, a message and a destiny..

    Jesus is the Son of God.. the very image of the creator himself in human form.. by accepting Him we receive His Spirit.. by receiving His Spirit we become directly connected to the author of life 🙂

    April 25, 2011 at 10:07 pm |
    • Crucified

      Good Post.. If anyone had a TRS-80 and remembers how much code you had to type to play that silly worm game.. this really hits home

      April 25, 2011 at 10:13 pm |
    • HerdingCats

      Do you know anything about DNA at all? Honestly. Human codes were meant to be read by humans. DNA was favored by Natural Selection to code for various proteins and stuff. There's a difference between the two and if you knew anything about either biology or info tech, you'd see that. We've HEARD this all before.

      April 25, 2011 at 10:28 pm |
    • Crucified

      @ herdingcats Actually if it were favored by natural selection..what was it favored from? next questions why are apes still here? proteins can write code? or are they programmed to have code...? You better think about irriducible complexity before you post some off winded non sense about natural selection.

      April 25, 2011 at 10:32 pm |
    • Observer

      When did DNA codes for snakes change so that they no longer can understand and speak language?

      April 25, 2011 at 10:40 pm |
    • Jeffrey

      chaos can not and does not produce codes... DNA is not a chaotic happenstance.. its not spontaneously written by its own energy or force.. It’s a code... a message, information.. calculations.. written by intelligence.. There is no naturally occurring set of conditions which creates a coding system. God is eternal and is not limited to nor confined by his creation.. He created; wisdom, space, time and everything beyond... In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He created us in love and for love.

      April 25, 2011 at 11:03 pm |
    • Crucified

      @Jeffrey You are on a Roll! Amen!

      April 25, 2011 at 11:06 pm |
    • Q

      If our DNA is a code written by an intelligent designer, then why do we have a defunct gene to produce egg yolk proteins? If intelligence is required to produce new genetic information, how did E. coli mutate and evolve a novel biochemical pathway (http://myxo.css.msu.edu/lenski/pdf/2008,%20PNAS,%20Blount%20et%20al.pdf)? Similarly, if intelligence is required to produce novel genetic information, where was the intelligence producing the novel features in the Pod Mrcaru lizards (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/04/080421-lizard-evolution.html)?

      April 25, 2011 at 11:37 pm |
    • Crucified

      Q Hello weren't you listening... he was talking about the DNA needing instruction to begin... not change... you have no arguement.

      April 25, 2011 at 11:39 pm |
    • Q

      @Crucified – Well, the examples I provided show that the "code" can expand and adapt based simply on (random) mutation and selection and do not require "intelligence". If Jeffrey were speaking of abiogenesis, well then we should discuss RNA, not DNA, where RNA has the ability to store "information", replicate and catalyze any number of other chemical reactions. Early replicators need not have stored "information", just provided templates for replication. Given sufficient diversity, some templates, by virtue of their random sequences, would possess these other characteristics (i.e. "information" storage, enhanced replication, catalysis, etc). These abilities have all been directly observed in RNA (e.g. RNA aptamers). How's that argument suit you?

      April 26, 2011 at 12:17 am |
    • Crucified

      @Q not well enough because replicating code is not CREATING code..

      April 26, 2011 at 12:22 am |
    • Q

      @Crucified – Well, it is when the replication is imperfect, i.e. the daughter strands are not identical to the parent strands.

      April 26, 2011 at 12:24 am |
    • Crucified

      @q Coming from the parent makes it born to replicate.... Create something from Nothing!

      April 26, 2011 at 12:30 am |
    • Crucified

      With out instruction or intervention!

      April 26, 2011 at 12:31 am |
    • Q

      @Crucified – With those last two posts, I don't believe you understand the nucleic acid biochemistry I'm discussing here. "Parental" is another term for a template strand. The "daughter" is the product of the individual nucleotides pairing up with complimentary nucleotides present in the parental strand and then forming some chemical backbone. It is not a reference to anything resembling being "born" and the sequence at these earlier stages is not encoding "information" to "go forth and replicate". The replication occurs simply as matter of chemistry, i.e. associations in some medium which are energetically favorable (like fats pooling together in water). Suffice it to say that yes, evidence indicates early RNA replicators could meet both of your requirements, i.e. beginning as random self-assembled template strings and without "instructions".

      April 26, 2011 at 12:51 am |
    • crucified

      Q Nothing can be created with out instruction or intervention! It is replication missing a part..kinda like playing telephone and not getting the whole message..Non anitimate objects can not come alive without intervention and instruction. period.

      April 26, 2011 at 12:56 am |
    • Q

      @Crucified – "Nothing can be created with out instruction or intervention". True, it wasn't created. The replicable, observable, physical evidence here indicates early replicators possessed all the requirements to evolve via purely natural chemical processes. Declaring it "just can't happen" is an argument of incredulity founded in argument of ignorance and simply doesn't change the evidence.

      April 26, 2011 at 1:05 am |
    • crucified

      @q You gave no evidence supporting anything other than replication or adaptation....Be truthful... You can not Create anything inanimate to become alive without instruction or intervention.

      April 26, 2011 at 1:23 am |
    • Q

      @Crucified – As I've already stated, the chemistry producing initial templates can occur by itself without direct "instruction" or "intervention". Replication and adaptation is enough to provide novel "information" (though the more proper term here is functionality) and with respect to RNA, all the requisite features required of a "code". "Life" has a specific definition (i.e. some type of metabolism) and I'm not claiming these replicators consti-tute "life". Still, other abiogenesis research is focused on answering these questions. Again, you are correct in stating, "You can not Create anything inanimate to become alive without instruction or intervention.", however, "I" am not 500 million years old with an incomprehensible micro-environmental and chemical diversity. The evidence I've offered indicates chemically plausible pathways, not definitive answers. Still, what I've provided is actual physical evidence and what physical evidence do you offer for your alternative mechanism other than negative arguments of incredulity towards mine?

      April 26, 2011 at 1:40 am |
    • crucified

      @Q I offer a eyewitness account! a Testimony! and a willingness to be persecuted to death! how motivated are you?

      April 26, 2011 at 2:22 pm |
    • Q

      @Crucified – Eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable. Add to this that 25% of exonerations via DNA evidence were accompanied by confessions. Physical evidence trumps eye witness testimony every time. Your willingness to die sounds much like any number of folks who sacrificed themselves for their beliefs, e.g. Jonestown, Branch Davidians, 9/11 Terrorists, Heaven's Gate, etc. Unfortunately, your willingness to sacrifice yourself does not provide any support to the validity of your beliefs.

      April 26, 2011 at 2:54 pm |
    • crucified

      @Q need we go back and rehash... you have no physical evidence only conjecture..you can not test your model and never will be able to therefore you can establish no proof.. Eyewitness accounts trumps conjecture. leave it alone..

      April 26, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
    • Q

      @Crucified – Clearly, you haven't been paying attention. "Proof" is not a word used in science. The evidence I've provided is observable, testable, replicable and is validated in its ability to make successful predictions (e.g. we should see gene "x" here, we should find fossil "x" in these geologic strata). I can take you into the lab and amplify your defunct gene for egg yolk protein. I can amplify your endogenous retroviruses sequences. I can show your karyotype and gene sequences showing your fused 2nd chromosome (predicted before hand by common ancestry). I can take you to a fossil dig site and show you the fossils and their order in the strata.. This is evidence not conjecture. Like most creationists, you are projecting your own evidentiary limitations so wonderfully betrayed in your above response to my request for your supporting evidence.

      As you as you know so little of science, you know less of ajudication. Eyewitness testimony always falls behind physical evidence in relevance (as clearly indicated in DNA evidence acquittals of convicts whose convictions stood on eyewitness testimony). This relative strength of various forms of evidence is often presented to juries in a judges instructions.

      While you ask me to "leave it alone", I would encourage you to embrace some integrity and intellectual honesty, and actually attempt to understand the science for which you have demonstrated not the slightest grasp. Or, you can continue with your fingers in your ears, denying anything that contradicts your desperate belief that in remaining willfully ignorant, you will have pleased your deity and won immortality.

      April 26, 2011 at 4:02 pm |
    • crucified

      Q bottom line the univers had a beginning...and was Caused. If was from a bang..Chaos..order would not be evident. The original amino acid cannot organize itself to become a protein.. How do amino acids gret instruction for meaningful DNA? Natural selection could not exist before the first living cell yet would have to be a process that were already in place. Your theory breaks down in the molecular level into fantacy....Creation is a must..by a designer

      April 27, 2011 at 4:20 pm |
    • Q

      @Crucified – Once again, you're wrong on all points. Please see the response under the Ark video on the subsequent page. But seriously, how's does one who knows so little believe they know so much about a particular topic? I've read before that confidence is often inversely proportionate to actual knowledge, e.g. a study comparing Fox News viewers to Daily Show viewers. The Fox viewers were far more confident of their political knowledge yet scored significantly lower on basic knowledge questions when compared to the Daily Show viewers. While anecdotal, my experience has been the same with creationists and so you can at least take solace in knowing you're right in the middle of that creationist-ignorance bell curve. At least you haven't asked "why are there still monkeys?" but then, perhaps you're just saving this trump card...

      April 28, 2011 at 12:40 am |
    • crucified

      @Q didn't have to say it...the commit above is blah blah blah... Your theories are absent of fact.. and process of conjecture.because there is no answer beyond a forest of conjecture..atheist respond by attacking the or trying to attack the credibility of the source.. You are a small minority in this arguement...and we are many..the facts are the same. evolution and the many other processes you name are still theories and always will be.

      April 28, 2011 at 8:04 am |
    • Q

      @Crucified – Blah, blah to one who doesn't understand the big words of science. The fact of evolution = change in allele frequencies in a population over time. Where do you think chihuahuas and great danes came from? Theory of Evolution = the scientific consensus explanation of biodiversity based on the fact of evolution and the concordant physical evidence provided by every relevant scientific discipline (or in other words, a complicated body of scientific knowledge which threatens Crucified's preferred attempt to pacify his/her crippling fear of their own mortality). The fossils exist in the right order, the genes occur in the right places, the physics, chemistry and astronomy all tell us there was enough time, we've seen new species arise, the basic mechanisms are so well understood that we use them everyday in research, medicine, agriculture and conservation biology, etc, etc. Right...no facts...coming from a person who rests their entire case on an invisible guy who lives in the sky and watches us all go pee...

      April 28, 2011 at 3:44 pm |
    • crucified

      @q more blah blah blah....make a banana walk.....make a chair breathe, make person from carbon... you are a fool... believe that random chance made complex organisms over time....than amino acids would write their own design code to make the proteins neeeded for DNA..that the mecanisms for natural selection, would be developed by the cell who didn't know it needed to develop it. Biology cannot create only replicate... I can copy some one elses work..the way I see it that is all biologist are trying to do is copy creation. In scholastics they call that cheating..

      April 28, 2011 at 8:35 pm |
    • crucified

      @q the more insults you throw just show how frail your arguement is.

      April 28, 2011 at 8:38 pm |
  4. david

    Wow there are so many scoffers on this thread; just to let everyone know time is short i hope you are all right because the lake is going to be very lonely and "HOT"

    April 25, 2011 at 9:59 pm |
    • Alan

      What does it feel like to be totally delusional?

      April 25, 2011 at 10:04 pm |
  5. CptFreakout

    Let's help them have mass suicides of the faithful ! , let's give them guns and cyanide and kool aid this is going to be great we can clear out the faithful .

    April 25, 2011 at 9:58 pm |
  6. Heavy H

    No matter what forum I am reading there are always “posts” regarding the “evils” of religion and the great harm it causes around the world. As a Christian I acknowledge “harm” as a result of ignorant or bad people participating in acts through a completely distorted view of the core of their religion. It’s important to distinguish between the acts of flawed and imperfect humanity versus the foundation of faith that is the core of any religious group. Atrocious acts have been committed in the name of race, gender, geography and more. We wouldn’t likely judge people living in Germany today for the actions of the Nazi party. It would be just as wrong to blame religion as a whole for the Crusades, 9/11….
    Further, if you are going to list every possible wrong doing associated with religion how about listing just some of the easily verifiable selfless acts of good done in the name of religion. I can only speak of the “fruits” of my faith but if you were to tally every Christian that has dedicated part or all of their lives to helping the poor, the sick and the oppressed, the count would be in the millions. It’s funny how the countless orders of nuns that spend their lives in disease ridden third world countries trying to improve conditions, never end up on any of the lists on these forums. My church alone raised $316,000 for Haiti after the earthquake. Prior to the earthquake we started our 7th village in Haiti, paid for and built by our parishioners. How many of you hiding behind an anonymous screen lobbing uneducated insults at the “faithful” have spent any significant time helping humanity?

    April 25, 2011 at 9:57 pm |
    • Sarcolac

      "Waaah! Those nasty atheists called me bad words for doing bad things! Waaah! And I do bad things because I am a sinner! I didn't make bad choices! Wahhh!"

      April 25, 2011 at 10:58 pm |
  7. stevie68a

    Religion is the oldest con game. People, most of you were brainwashed as children to believe in nonsense. You can be a good
    person without religion. Teach ethics instead.

    April 25, 2011 at 9:48 pm |
  8. david

    People like harold camping is the reason why people will stear clear of christians and behead them in the end times! I really hope the people on this thread don't look at this one cult and think that all christians are the same as this guy is. Harold camping has been predicting the end for a very long time!

    April 25, 2011 at 9:47 pm |
    • jeff

      David you are right. I used to be a christain but GOD has me on a different path right now and most christains can not understand that. So after explaining this I get the old "well if you don't believe, what I believe... you will go to hell. From my expereince...practice your faith, pray about your faith, focus on your faith. GOD has a plan but the blueprints lie with GOD. Listen to that voice that comes from love...not hate and judgement.

      April 25, 2011 at 10:16 pm |
  9. C Trip

    Funny, how the Atheists are so passionate about the beliefs of Christians. I dare them to have the same passion about another worldwide religion. Maybe call that religion's founder a false prophet or fraud on a big billboard. I'm sure then they would find out the definition of tolerance.

    April 25, 2011 at 9:44 pm |
    • Bilbo Baggins

      If the christians would leave us alone and not try to take our rights away, we would be happy to leave them alone as well. I must say that I am speaking for myself here.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:46 pm |
    • scott

      We happened to be surrounded by Christians. I can guarantee if the Muslims were affecting me on a daily basis, we would rail against them too. Next inane point?

      April 25, 2011 at 9:51 pm |
    • C Trip

      Bilbo, I think you should have the right to do or say whatever you want, it is not for me to judge. Your angst at religion is off the mark. Rights in America are not threatened by the Christians; unless you think your right is to what is mine.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:52 pm |
    • C Trip

      Scott, rights are not man's to give or take. They are endowed.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:58 pm |
    • Crucified

      If the Athiest where a group of more than maybe 5% I might be worried.. There size is insignificant to change anything.. further there comments are insignificant...They might be more relevant at an Athiest convention where they stand around talking about what they don't believe....Athiesm is the most self defeating belief out threre for to deny is to believe.

      April 25, 2011 at 10:02 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Perhaps if christians would just leave me along. Two times in the last three days, they have come knocking, uninvited, at my door, to tell me "important" information about "our" lord. Never had an atheist do that. Or a Buddhist. Or a hindu. Or a wiccan. Or an islamic. Or a pagan. Or an adherent of Zeus. The list goes on.

      April 25, 2011 at 10:10 pm |
    • Crucified

      @ tallaluh13 No Athiest just spend all night trying to bash something they don't believe in.

      April 25, 2011 at 10:14 pm |
    • Jesusfreaker

      Crucified,

      The odds that you are worshipping the right god are pretty slim. There are a lot of gods out there. You had better get busy or you might miss heaven.

      BTW it's more like %15 in this country. It grows every year. In Canada, you would be the minority.

      April 25, 2011 at 10:20 pm |
    • Jesusfreaker

      Crucified,

      Do you just blindly follow the largest group?

      April 25, 2011 at 10:23 pm |
    • Crucified

      @Jesusfreaker If you are going to use a stat. use a real one.. Just because someone does not go to Church or does not claim a religious afiliation does not throw them in the Athiest Catagory... It is a VERY small % of Athiest in USA. God Bless America...

      April 25, 2011 at 10:26 pm |
    • Crucified

      @Jesusfreaker Odds are They are right.... Majority Wins... also.. occmans razor – the path of least resistance is usually Correct

      April 25, 2011 at 10:27 pm |
    • Jesusfreaker

      Crucified,

      You would probably be surprised how many Atheists are preachers. For some it's an easy way to make money. God is always short on cash.

      April 25, 2011 at 10:33 pm |
    • Crucified

      @jesusfreaker your post is conjecture and therefore invalid.

      April 25, 2011 at 10:34 pm |
    • Jesusfreaker

      Crucified,

      The fastest growing religious status in the U.S. is non-belief: Atheists, Agnostics. The number of Christians is declining and many out there only claim to be for family reasons. So are you saying that if the majority of the U.S. population become non-believers then you will join the herd? All though I would agree with your choice, don't be a sheep. Think for yourself.

      April 25, 2011 at 10:45 pm |
    • Crucified

      @ Jesus Freaker you are wating your time.. I always will be a Christian... I had an experience with God that firmly engrains His existance..It wasn't emotional but miraculious.. I wont waste my time explaining it to you. You would not believe even if someone came back from the fiery depths of Hell and told you. We have a Creator and you need to turn to him. That is in Matthew..right before lazerius and the rich man. Athiesm is a self defeating belief for to deny is to believe. I know you think you are smart believing the cosmos burped and here we are. but I don't buy that.. existence requires instructions. you have none therefore do not exist..the athiest are just rebellious little children who do not want to facethe impending danger and hopelessness of Death..

      April 25, 2011 at 10:59 pm |
    • Jesusfreaker

      Crucified,

      I'm not trying to change you. I'm just saying think for yourself. Don't follow the masses. The first Christians didn't. I'm tolerant of all religions. If my children want to become Christian, Jewish, Muslim or any other religion out there, that is totally fine with me. They will have my full support. That will be a choice that they make and one they make alone. It will not be forced or coerced on them. I want my kids to be thinkers not sheep. I think the point that most Atheist on this site are trying to make is that people should think for themselves and put some thought into their decisions and choices in life. If you do that as a Christian then I completely respect that.

      April 25, 2011 at 11:31 pm |
    • Crucified

      @ Jesufreaker Then Respect it...

      April 25, 2011 at 11:48 pm |
    • Crucified

      Jesus freaker You have a post on p25 please read..

      April 25, 2011 at 11:55 pm |
    • Jesusfreaker

      Wow... give a Christian an olive branch and they set it on fire and throw it back.

      Okay the gloves are back off.

      I guess the Christian life isn't as peachy as you claim. Good luck with all of that. I hope you find happiness someday. My happiest day was when I personally accepted reality as my savior.

      April 25, 2011 at 11:58 pm |
    • Crucified

      @ jesusfreaker actually it is pretty peachy... Peace out.

      April 26, 2011 at 12:06 am |
    • tallulah13

      Crucified, do you live in the internet? Is this your home that I'm commenting on, or is it an open forum where anyone is welcome to respond? I think from what you call yourself you feel persecuted, but the truth is, not everyone thinks like you do. Get over yourself.

      April 26, 2011 at 1:09 am |
    • Peace2All

      @Crucified

      Hi -Crucified...

      I noticed in one of your postings above... You Said: "I had an experience with God that firmly engrains His existance..It wasn't emotional but miraculious.."

      If you have some time, I am 'sincerely' curious as to what specifically your experience was that you believe to be 'God.'

      If you don't want to nor have the time to explain, I certainly respect that. I had an NDE, several years ago, and it's often very hard to explain when people ask.

      Anyway...

      Respectfully,

      Peace...

      April 26, 2011 at 1:19 am |
    • crucified

      @talluhall well you will find me in the religious blogs... What are you doing here?

      April 26, 2011 at 1:20 am |
    • crucified

      @peace2all would love to give the details actually...but they are to personal for blog..and fellow believers would only appreciate the recent experiences....I found Jesus later in life.. I will say that have experienced Hell on one occation when I was 15.. that experience has never left me.. I know the devils intentions, his motives, and what he means to do unbelievers..for I was once one of them.. after i found Jesus in my 30s. I have had a few encounters but they are personal to me not to be bashed on by unbelievers.

      April 26, 2011 at 1:34 pm |
  10. DJ

    2pe 3:3-3:16 Having first of all the knowledge that in the last days there will be men who, ruled by their evil desires, will make sport of holy things, Saying, Where is the hope of his coming? From the death of the fathers till now everything has gone on as it was from the making of the world. But in taking this view they put out of their minds the memory that in the old days there was a heaven, and an earth lifted out of the water and circled by water, by the word of God; And that the world which then was came to an end through the overflowing of the waters. But the present heaven and the present earth have been kept for destruction by fire, which is waiting for them on the day of the judging and destruction of evil men. But, my loved ones, keep in mind this one thing, that with the Lord one day is the same as a thousand years, and a thousand years are no more than one day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his word, as he seems to some, but he is waiting in mercy for you, not desiring the destruction of any, but that all may be turned from their evil ways. But the day of the Lord will come like a thief; and in that day the heavens will be rolled up with a great noise, and the substance of the earth will be changed by violent heat, and the world and everything in it will be burned up. Seeing then that all these things are coming to such an end, what sort of persons is it right for you to be, in all holy behaviour and righteousness, Looking for and truly desiring the coming of the day of God, when the heavens will come to an end through fire, and the substance of the earth will be changed by the great heat? But having faith in his word, we are looking for a new heaven and a new earth, which will be the resting-place of righteousness. For this reason, my loved ones, as you are looking for these things, take great care that when he comes you may be in peace before him, free from sin and every evil thing. And be certain that the long waiting of the Lord is for salvation; even as our brother Paul has said in his letters to you, from the wisdom which was given to him; And as he said in all his letters, which had to do with these things; in which are some hard sayings, so that, like the rest of the holy Writings, they are twisted by those who are uncertain and without knowledge, to the destruction of their souls.

    April 25, 2011 at 9:32 pm |
    • Alan

      You are delusional

      April 25, 2011 at 9:46 pm |
    • Bilbo Baggins

      Quoting from a book? OK. Here Goes one just as valid "And Hagrid said – Your a Wizard Harry"

      April 25, 2011 at 9:47 pm |
    • Lycidas

      @Bilbo Baggins- Plz explain your beliefs without quoting or paraphrasing a book.

      April 26, 2011 at 6:35 am |
    • Scott

      "Plz explain your beliefs without quoting or paraphrasing a book."

      LOL! That is too funny especially since that is exactly what Christians do with their book. LOL!

      April 26, 2011 at 8:25 am |
    • Lycidas

      Glad you are paying attention Scott, not like I put my comment up there for that very reason.

      April 26, 2011 at 8:29 am |
    • Scott

      "Glad you are paying attention Scott, not like I put my comment up there for that very reason."

      Oh please, you are saying it now to cover your butt – your an idiot.

      April 26, 2011 at 10:38 am |
    • Lycidas

      Yeah Scott...yeah...oh look

      BB said to a Christian, "Quoting from a book?"

      My response was, "Plz explain your beliefs without quoting or paraphrasing a book."

      I am sorry, you was completely wrong Scott and either won't admit it or are trying to cover it up. Oh well.

      April 26, 2011 at 10:41 am |
  11. Bilbo Baggins

    I wish you would put up one of those billboards in every town in America. I wish I had the money to help. But due to Christian intollerace I am out of work. Hint: If your boss is a Christian, LIE, tell him you are too so you can keep your job.

    April 25, 2011 at 9:30 pm |
    • DJ

      More than likely you were fired for unchristian behavior as opposed to not being christian, as in lying, stealing, poor work ethics, etc.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:35 pm |
    • Lycidas

      So you respond to prejudice with prejudice. That's nice.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:35 pm |
    • scott

      @DJ

      I thought that WAS the Christian values.... At least the ones I have seen the believers employ...

      April 25, 2011 at 9:43 pm |
    • Bilbo Baggins

      DJ – You don't know me. And you are right. I was fired for non christian behavior. He had me work on Sunday. And I would not kneel down and pray with him. Does DJ Mean Dumb Jerk?

      April 25, 2011 at 9:44 pm |
  12. DJ

    Athiest commenting on the rapture... What next Blind commentators at the Olympics?

    April 25, 2011 at 9:25 pm |
    • scott

      The blind see more through their eyes that religious see through their dogma...

      April 25, 2011 at 9:52 pm |
    • humanbean

      Well considering the rapture is even more made up than the bible, and not even mentioned in the bible, it would seem that Christians would know no more about it than anyone else. And your analogy is horrible to boot.

      April 25, 2011 at 10:00 pm |
    • HerdingCats

      Atheists are more familiar with the Bible than most religious in the US of A. Next stupid, debunked objection, please!

      April 25, 2011 at 10:30 pm |
    • Jesusfreaker

      That's true for me. I read the Bible all the time now that I no longer go to church. I like most Christians, never read the Bible when I went to church (I'm not referring to those of you Christians on this site I know you read the Bible), but do you really READ it. I find it fascinating now that I actually READ it. It can be a very dark book and it certainly doesn't paint a pretty picture of its main character. Who is worse God or Satan?

      April 25, 2011 at 11:04 pm |
    • Crucified

      @Hearding Cats ok...Bible Quiz..What does Zacceriah 12:10 Say?

      April 25, 2011 at 11:11 pm |
    • Tohrm

      Crucified, there is no part of the bible labeled "Zacceriah". Why ask 'HerdingCats' about a non-existent book? Because you don't know how your own bible spells things? What does that say about your "knowledge" of the bible when you can't even spell?

      April 26, 2011 at 12:06 am |
    • Crucified

      @Tohrm That is one way to miss the point

      April 26, 2011 at 12:09 am |
    • Lycidas

      Yeah, Tohrm doesn't even realize that the Bible is a proper noun and needs to be capitalized.

      April 26, 2011 at 6:34 am |
  13. scott

    Hitler was not an Athiest. Fail!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_religious_views

    April 25, 2011 at 9:23 pm |
    • Mike

      He was a disciple of the atheist hero, Nietzche. Look up "eugenics."

      April 25, 2011 at 9:29 pm |
    • scott

      @Mike- I'm a fan of Ghandi and MLK, but that doesn't make me religious. Or them responsible for my actions. Epic Fail!

      http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/murphy_19_2.html

      Gotta love how the Religious abandon their own when it suits them....

      April 25, 2011 at 9:36 pm |
    • scott

      @Mike

      "But Nietzsche was no Nazi. He vigorously opposed German nationalism, as he rejected all mass movements; he had no time for ideologues, mocked the notion of a Teutonic master race and loathed anti-Semitism in all its forms."

      http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/ben_macintyre/article3634609.ece

      Jeez- so easy- why do we have to do all the research for you people...?

      April 25, 2011 at 9:41 pm |
    • Jesusfreaker

      It really doesn't matter if Hitler was an Atheist or a Christian. Atheism is not a religion. It simply means that you don't not worship any of the thousands of gods that have been or currently are being worshipped by humans on this planet. Hitler at the very least had Christian influence at some point in his life.

      I believe that had it not been for the Bible, the Holocaust probably never would have happened.

      1 Thessalonians 2:14-16

      April 25, 2011 at 9:47 pm |
    • Mike

      @scott: it's not about Nietzche. The point is that Hitler was not a "Christian." Nietzche was not a Nazi, but the Nazis embraced the philosophy of Nietzche and nihilism. Now that I've walked you through it, i hope you have a better understanding...

      BTW: using the phrase "Epic fail" in your post means that you're less than 10 years old, which means you should be in bed by now. Nighty night!

      April 25, 2011 at 9:56 pm |
    • Jose Sanchez

      @Mike,

      "I say: my feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to the fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as sufferer but as fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and of adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before—the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. And as a man I have the duty to see to it that human society does not suffer the same catastrophic collapse as did the civilization of the ancient world some two thousand years ago—a civilization which was driven to its ruin through this same Jewish people." – Hitler

      There is a massive amount of blood on Christianity's hands for the Holocaust which is why they try so hard to spin Hitler as an Atheist. Meanwhile, they try and spin heroic Atheists as Christians like what they did with Pat Tillman. It's disgusting.

      April 25, 2011 at 10:41 pm |
  14. Jean

    I would like to believe that if there is a God that he would desire that people be good just because it is the right thing to do and not because there is a reward (heaven) or punishment (hell) at the end.

    April 25, 2011 at 9:19 pm |
    • DJ

      Jean, you make the error that heaven is obtained by "good works". Have you never read, you must be born again. One of the most miserable and most objectionable objects on earth is a "self rightious" self made christian. They are the biggest reason that so many people reject christianity. Real christianity is receiving salvation by faith in Jesus, it is a gift tht we can not earn, do not deserve, that we receive like a child who receives what he needs from his parents being confident in their love.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:43 pm |
    • Jean

      Is this according to Jesus or Paul?

      April 25, 2011 at 10:37 pm |
  15. George

    TRUMP/PALIN ALL THE WAY IN THE USA 2012 !!

    April 25, 2011 at 9:19 pm |
    • Peter Rabbit

      if there is a savior, I hope she comes to save us before that happens or we are sure to feel the burning rage of the almighty.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:24 pm |
    • sqeptiq

      Talk about end of the rational world...

      April 25, 2011 at 9:40 pm |
    • Jesusfreaker

      Trump is much smarter than that. "Palin...you're fired".

      April 25, 2011 at 10:09 pm |
  16. Eric

    Ironically enough, it takes more "faith" to be an athiest than a Christian...because you better be right.

    April 25, 2011 at 9:17 pm |
    • Peter Rabbit

      Why must an atheist better be right. If the modern hate mongering christiian is a reflection of what is to come in your heaven, than no thank you. I'd rather not go to that party, better to fertilze the ground.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:21 pm |
    • Mike

      ..then fertilizer it shall be wabbit.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:25 pm |
    • Eric

      Thats the point Rabbit, if your beliefs are correct, we will all just become fertilizer. If my beliefs are correct, there is a heaven and a hell. The way I see it, you have more to lose.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:30 pm |
    • lef

      So are you guys Christians or just bet-hedgers?

      April 25, 2011 at 9:46 pm |
    • Roger

      There are 37,496 different beliefs about what heaven and hell are, whether they actually exist, and how one gets to go to one or the other, or neither. It's not a simple either-or decision. How do you decide which belief to believe in? No matter what you believe you are "taking a chance". There is no definitive answer.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:48 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Since no one actually knows what happens after death, there really is no way to predict what is right and what is wrong. Since there is no evidence that souls exist or that there is any afterlife, I find no reason to believe that anything happens after death beyond decomposition. I have no problem with that. Death is the only natural conclusion to life. It's very tidy, very practical. Nothing to be afraid of, and I am not afraid.

      April 25, 2011 at 10:02 pm |
    • Andrew

      Why must Christianity be a prerequisite to being a moral person? I'll be a good person...regardless. My reward comes from within. Either way, god or not, I come out on top.

      "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
      Mohandas Gandhi

      April 25, 2011 at 10:04 pm |
    • HerdingCats

      Oh, gods, not freaking Pascal's Wager again! Look. It's much easier to believe that we are the inevitable product of certain natural laws than some magic sky man who cares who we sleep with and in what way, what we eat, what we say, what we think, and how we praise him suddenly magicked it into existence. Evidence or GTFO.

      April 25, 2011 at 10:32 pm |
    • Lycidas

      @HC-"It's much easier to believe that we are the inevitable product of certain natural laws than some magic sky man.."

      For some ppl, it's not easier for them to have your belief. Oh, and no one on here worships a "magic sky man".

      April 26, 2011 at 6:32 am |
  17. TRH

    "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
    - Mahatma Gandhi

    "Faith is believing what you know ain't so...If Christ were here now there is one thing he would not be – a Christian."
    -Mark Twain

    April 25, 2011 at 9:14 pm |
    • Peter Rabbit

      Love these quotes. Unfortunately rational thought and intellect aren't in the equation for these folks. They won't be happy until the earth is consumed in a ball of fire and ruled with an iron rod.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:19 pm |
    • Jordan

      He wouldn't be...cuz he was a jew... lol even in the days before his death he never denounced his judaism or said he wanted people to deviate from it, just to reform it.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:37 pm |
    • jeff

      Bravo TRH! Maybe some so-called Christains would take some time and pray over that.

      April 25, 2011 at 10:26 pm |
    • Lycidas

      "even in the days before his death he never denounced his judaism"

      Why would he have?

      April 26, 2011 at 6:29 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Gandhi is on the other side of the divide today waiting for the Day of the Lord.

      Amen.

      April 26, 2011 at 10:29 am |
  18. skyking

    It'll be so friggin' funny when the bible thumpers have one foot in the grave and the casket lid is slamming shut and they'll realize it was all a big hoax.

    April 25, 2011 at 9:14 pm |
    • john

      or not?

      April 25, 2011 at 10:19 pm |
    • Lycidas

      @skyking- Wow....I always wonder what evolutionary advantage of gloating over that which one does not know is.

      April 26, 2011 at 6:28 am |
    • HeavenSent

      It's not funny at all that non-believers are the spiritually walking dead among us, that are blinded by the sin of pride not knowing what they are missing.

      Amen.

      April 26, 2011 at 10:20 am |
  19. AmyLynn

    The only ones more foolish than Harold Camping is his Followers

    These are some of the dumbest people on earth. They know nothing about Jesus at all

    Harold Camping sits and they ask him all the questions, he has EVERY ANSWER..he destroys the Bible with his bias interpretations.

    His Stupid follower's believe every word he speaks...They are the dumbest so called Christians I have ever seen

    See here how this man fools these silly follower's

    SEE HERE http://haroldcamping-21.blogspot.com/2011/04/harold-camping-beaten-for-christ-you.html

    just google HAROLD CAMPING 21

    April 25, 2011 at 9:14 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Absolute power, corrupts absolutely. His followers need to stop being lazy and read the Bible on their own. That way, they can disprove what he's falsely preaching. There's a lot of wolves in sheep's clothing hiding behind Jesus' truth.

      Amen.

      April 26, 2011 at 10:17 am |
    • Duh

      Please learn basic grammar before posting comments on the Internet.

      April 26, 2011 at 11:31 am |
  20. Larry

    Hitler was an atheist.

    April 25, 2011 at 9:06 pm |
    • Peter Rabbit

      you have no point...anyhow what does that matter he was also born of a virgin.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:11 pm |
    • TRH

      That's a matter for debate. But even if he was, so what?

      April 25, 2011 at 9:12 pm |
    • Sandra

      No, Hitler was not an Atheist. But many Fundamentalist Christians, and those who believe the fever dream of a 15 yr old girl that her father parlayed into one of the biggest cons (aka "The Rapture") try to use as proof as to why atheists are evil. Nice try, but repeating that lie that Hitler was an atheist again still doesn't make it true.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:13 pm |
    • Shannon

      Actually, there's a lot of evidence to support that he was rather religious, but not part of a formal church at the time of his greatest atrocities.

      But, as the others have said...what's your point? He was also male. My husband's male. Should we kill all the males just in case one of them becomes another Hitler? So silly.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:15 pm |
    • pinky

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

      Thank you, come again.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:16 pm |
    • Brett

      Hitler was a roman catholic. His birthday was celebrated in church. Get your history straight.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:20 pm |
    • Jordan

      actually, almost all evidence points to the fact that hitler was extremely religious, most notably into mysticism

      April 25, 2011 at 9:35 pm |
    • sqeptiq

      He was also a white European male. Does that say something about males of European descent?

      April 25, 2011 at 9:37 pm |
    • revo-lou

      Actually, no he wasn't. He was a good little christian.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:42 pm |
    • Ryan

      FALSE. Read mein Kampf. Numerous references are made to the Lord. If he would have done something good he would be labeled as Christian. Christian often try to label agnostic people that do great works Christians after they die. If they did something horrific they are labeled as not true Christians, if they were clearly affiliated with the church. Basically Christians have a monopoly supposedly on all good people.

      April 25, 2011 at 9:56 pm |
    • jeff

      Larry, have you ever studied Hitler? Your comment tells us you have not. Before you open your mouth (or start to type) do some reading and then you can share an "informed" opinion. But for you Larry I will make a generization about Hitler for you to start with...he was insane...his message was insane...the people who follow him are insane. What he did does not make sence to rational people. When the insane are allowed to rule...hell opens up and we must all pay.

      April 25, 2011 at 10:24 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Sandra, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out non-believers are blinded by the sin of Pride (aka meaning your big egos today) that assume they have a better way to live life as you attack and try to disprove Jesus' truth. Arrogance is an understatement for your sinful natures. Get over yourselves. Better minds than any of you fools on this site have tried to disprove Jesus' truth and failed. Admitting that His truth in the Bible is perfect, without blemish.

      As for the rapture theory. That is man made. It is not in the Bible. Jesus comes back to earth to meet with us, not that we fly away to meet Him in the sky. Those scriptures are explaining that when we see him again, we will ALL be back in our spiritual bodies.

      Amen.

      April 26, 2011 at 10:13 am |
    • BR

      @HeavenSent – Precisely...the rapture is a MAN MADE idea. Just keep following that line of reasoning, and you'll get there.
      😉

      April 26, 2011 at 11:39 am |
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