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May 7th, 2011
09:29 AM ET
Muslim group: 2 imams pulled from plane bound for North CarolinaBy the CNN Wire Staff (CNN) - An airline is investigating the removal of two imams from a flight headed to North Carolina, ostensibly because passengers felt uncomfortable with their presence of the pair - both clad in Islamic attire. The incident occurred Friday on an Atlanta Southeast Airlines flight from Tennessee to North Carolina and it involved Masudur Rahman and Mohamed Zaghloul were wearing traditional Muslim dress, CNN affiliate WCNC reported. The two - who hold high religious positions in the Muslim community - were headed to North Carolina for a conference on prejudice against Muslims, or Islamaphobia. The meeting is sponsored by the North American Imams Federation. Read the full story on the imams removed from a plane. |
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Muneef
You and your Islamic ideology suffer from a superiority complex and delusions of grandeur. You Islamists think you are superior to the rest of humankind when in reality, Islam has been a deadly nuisance to humankind. If you had any common sense, any decency and any respect for human life, you would not place your entries here just to make us laugh about your ignorance about God and about your ignorance of the positive contributions of many other countries to the rest of the world. So quit living in a surreal world.
I think if Muslims would stop killing innocent people then their travel problems would be greatly reduced.
*Radical Muslims that is.
Religion, the belief in something that is greater than us, in someone who is almighty and must be worshipped and feared, is an archetype of the human psyche, nothing more. So is the principle of "right" and "wrong". which is subjective and means different things to different people. It will take millions of years of evolution to overcome this. Obviously, we're not ready to live our lives free of prejudice. Most of us fear or even hate everything that's new or different from, people we can't identify with. It's our reptile brain, guys. Not more and not less.
Read the latest news ariund the world Chris.
This so called religion is like no other. Read some of the comments here you may learn the reality of this murderous cult.
Read the latest news and murders committed on the name of this monster alla
How Islam should be Judged?
Before Islam they worship idols
After worshiping the one absolute God
Before Islam they didn’t know Jesus or Mary or any prophets
After Islam who deny Jesus or Mary become blasphemer
Before no payers no charity no family relation
After Islam it become must
Before Islam us-u-ry and slavery adultery was common
After Islam got forbidden
Before Islam women has no value and all her property to her husband
After Islam become her own she can do what she like within Islamic laws
Before Islam the girls-child were buried alive
After Islam no girls-child were buried alive
Before Islam no laws or guidance to people
After Islam established the laws or guidance to people( sharia)
Before Islam tribes killing each others
After Islam they became brothers
Before Islam there was no education
After Islam became must and first word came to Muhammad from the angle was (read)
Before Islam no scientific study
After Islam seculars in chemistry and math the no.1234 are Arabic and innovated the ZERO
Before Islam they were tribes
After Islam became empire from Spain to china
And More……. I cannot do it
The Big change in history done by ( illiterate ) prophet Muhammad peace be up on him brought the people from darkness to light , but most people killed by the pride they do not want to admitted .
Quran verses;
40) And certainly We have repeated (warnings) in this Quran that they may be mindful, but it does not add save to their aversion. (41).
(88) And certainly We have explained for men in this Quran every kind of similitude, but most men do not consent to aught but denying. (89).
And certainly We have explained in this Quran every kind of example, and man is most of all given to contention. (54).
Islam is most hated for forbidding (Us-u-r-y) and Slavery-1
http://groups.google.com/group/uk-911-truth/browse_thread/thread/60ca035f7bd0f152
Islam is most hated for forbidding (Us-u-r-y) and Slavery-2
http://groups.google.com/group/total_truth_sciences/browse_thread/thread/1031db57c63ea8f4
Islam is most hated for forbidding (Us-u-r-y) and Slavery-3
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13280717/Us!u!r!y-and-the-Fight-Against-Economic-Slavery
Islam is most hated for forbidding (Us-u-r-y) and Slavery-4
http://www.slideshare.net/brighteyes/ancient-slavery-us!u!r!y-and-property-regimes
With Muneef's Islam, we have the following:
The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century
■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "
and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.
and more recently
1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured
1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh
2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured
3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,483 and 925 in non combat roles. 99,901 – 109,143 Iraqi civilians killed as of 3/3/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf
4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]
5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.
6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.
7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.
8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.
9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.
10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,141 killed in action, 242 killed in non-combat situations as of 03/03/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror
11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.
12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.
13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,
14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.
15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.
16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.
17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.
18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.
19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011
20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011
21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.
22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.
You are the con man that con the poor woman of her marketing money down the road a moment ago??
You are the man that con the poor woman of her marketing money down the road awhile ago??
You are the man that con the woman of her savings awhile ago???
Don't forget Pedophilia is one of your great achievements as well..
Muneef:
You and your Islamic ideology suffer from a superiority complex and delusions of grandeur. You Islamists think you are superior to the rest of humankind when in reality, Islam has been a deadly nuisance to humankind. If you had any common sense, any decency and any respect for human life, you would not place your entries here just to make us laugh about your ignorance about God and about your ignorance of the positive contributions of many other countries to the rest of the world. So quit living in a surreal world.
Muneef:
You and your Islamic ideology suffer from a superiority complex and delusions of grandeur. You Islamists think you are superior to the rest of humankind when in reality, Islam has been a deadly nuisance to humankind. If you had any common sense, any decency and any respect for human life, you would not place your entries here just to make us laugh about your ignorance about God and about your ignorance of the positive contributions of many other countries to the rest of the world. So quit living in a surreal world and face reality.
Personally, I think the pilot should be fired:
"Hooper said officials re-screened [the Imams] and found they were no threat.
While officials tried to get the men back on the plane, 'the pilot absolutely refused and ultimately took off,' Hooper said."
In case you hadn't noticed-a muslim man tried storming the coc-kpit this weekend on a domestic flight. How much more difficult would it be to take down two (or more) adult men? The pilot made a call based on his duty to his passengers' safety. Don't like it-don't fly. I'm glad he didn't have to answer to some pc moron before making his decision. Then again, the pc crowd has been given over to a reprobate mind(one incapable of making decisions in their own best interest).
@ Nominus
You need to volunteer for jury duty at your local courthouse; with a couple more like you they could clear their docket for the next year.
Expedite, citizens! Damn the facts (which you don't even know yet, right?)
Adelina
The Bible does not stress respecting or trusting people because all humans are sinful. Respect is a positional thing. Respect is due for man from woman, and for people like parents and authorities. The Bible commands to honor God and value every human being. Perverts and criminals should not get our respect; just unconditional love, forgiveness if applicable, and due education or justice.
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Is it me or do you need to get laid???? Go to orbit and get a ticket to Hawaii.
Muneef
Were they not searched before boarding the plane? Oh yes they might been able to blow the plane down with a big fart !
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Now that is funny
Artist.
You are not that artist otherwise maybe their fart was of a chemical or gas weapon ?! Could that be impossible if intended?
The Bible does not stress respecting or trusting people because all humans are sinful. Respect is a positional thing. Respect is due for man from woman, and for people like parents and authorities. The Bible commands to honor God and value every human being. Perverts and criminals should not get our respect; just unconditional love, forgiveness if applicable, and due education or justice.
Could you please just STFU, and while you're at it, go back to the 16th Century where you and your mentality would obviously be most comfortable.
Hello everyone. All this fighting is nonsense. The one common trait we all have is that we are all humans first and must respect one another. Without respect no one is right. You can argue all you want about this religion or that religion; it does not matter if we do not repect each other. Next thing is to explore common ideas and common values. And the next step is to study history and find facts not arguing for the sake of arguing. One thing is for sure: way before Christianity and Islam, there was no religion, so chew on that for a while. God/Ala bless you all!
Zeke, without religion, there isn't any reason to respect anyone. You only need a slogan or two to regard human life as dirt. Without religion, things like common values are the most unstable items like common interests. Learning and knowledge are nothing if a quality conscience does not accompany. What mankind needs is the Judeo-Christian value and Christian education. Otherwise, expect barbarism in any possible form from common humans.
Adelina that is funny coming from someone who follows a barbaric religion.
Dmitri, I don't follow atheism like you do.
Seems to me there was a simple solution to this who-ha. Why didn't the pilot just request an armed guard to sit on the plane ? Everyone would have been hunky-dory, and the imams would have been been left alone, as they should have been.
Actually, since those 5 imams got yanked off that plane in Minneapolis, 5 years ago, for praying in a circle before their flight, and sued NWA, (I think it was NWA, now Delta), and won all that money, I was surprised to see this happen again, especially since these 2 were going to the same conference. The thought of it being a "set up" comes to mind. Did this flight crew "fall for it" a second time ?
What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon? And what drives today's 24/7 mosque/imam-driven acts of terror and horror? The koran, Mohammed's book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means. Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed. Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein. Until then, no Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere.**************************
Reality, please shut the hell up!
The sad thing is, people in traditional Muslim garb should be the LAST Muslims we suspect. If someone was plotting something nefarious, they wouldn't wear clothing that would draw a lot of attention to themselves.
Mjollnir.
You are quite right about it they would either dress normally or rather dress a Christian priest cloths to pull such act rather than wearing some thing that attracts attention...!
Throw us off the plane today. But we'll throw you off the earth tomorrow! Don't you pie-in-the sky boys realize that we're saving all that oil money, living off a goat or two a week, saving up for that final great jihad? Go ahead, pack yourselves with mickey D's till you can't even waddle. We'll be there waiting for your sorry butts, and we won't be serving hot pie for your meal either.
Allahu Akbar suckers!
Islam is an evil cult. The only reason it's called an religion is because it has a couple billion members.
LOL... "Allahu Akbar suckers??? Noooo, it's : allayahoo sucks Akbar! Hehehe whatever that means.
Mankind learned the value and possibility of perfect forgiveness and unconditional love, along with the right-ness of carrying out judicial justice from Christianity alone. Other belief system is either stupid or unrealistic with mankind.
That's not even true. Adelina, I respect that you are a devout Christian, but that doesn't make Christianity the only 'good' religion. Not all of it's teachings are valuable, and those who follow the God of Abraham are not infallible because of it. What do you even know of other belief systems? What are the tenets of Islam, of Judaism? Of Buddhism and Hinduism? Of the many 'pagan' beliefs? Do you know anything about these faiths?
Adelina – did you finish high school? Have you ever even left your own town, much less your country to see what the rest of the world is like? Do you realize that BILLIONS of people on this earth are not Christians and some are practicing religions MUCH older than yours and believe just as devoutly in their faith as your believe in yours? You are a fool.
All human religions, ideologies and philosophies are either oppressive or stupid except for Christianity. You guys are ignorant and unlearned.
You are so right Adelina. Don't be afraid to defend the TRUTH.
There are many who are with you but are not given a voice in societies that only serve an agenda of political correctness forgetting their past history and the history on which civilization was built. Christianitydid not destroy but built trgardless of what is said today.
Adelina, holding up the mirror here. You look the stupid one. ..only MY religion is right, everybody else's is wrong??? You can't express a more imature and childish opinion than that. Here, look in the mirror... What do you see???
U are an idiot. Christianity kidnapped Jesus from the Jews. He never taught Christianity, lived it or even knew of it and he never was a Christian. So what are you talking about?
Christianity is a popular religion, however, that does not mean it is the best religion. Every religion has a set of values, in which some which I truly do not agree with. That does not mean they are bad. Tell me what you do know about Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, or Hindu. Those ideas are not stupid. I don't want to sound rude, but you are ignorant. You are making Christians sound like they are unaccepting, which I am sure not all are.
Good reason for the PREJUDICE. Islam kills INFIDELS who don't believe in Allah. Just look at Arab Spring in Egypt. This religion stinks.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/05/08/egypt.clashes/index.html
Another little sissy who is afraid of a couple of pudgy religious guys in that are wearing dresses. That is so funny, what a girly man you must be!
Lol.
It does stink. It stinks as bad as every other religion. Time to move on. Real problems need real solutions, not wishful thinking to a magician in the sky.
ehmmm, small correction: not "this religion stinks"... , instead: Religion stinks!"
There are plenty of Christian groups that have participated in terrorism (look up Ulster Defence Association & Irish Republican Army for modern examples).
Christians mostly participate in life-saving charity. Preservation of everyone is Christianity's main feature, not the opposite.
@ Adelina
the five pillars of Islam
Kalima – There is no god but ONE god and Muhammad (pbuh) is the messenger of god
Salah – prayer (5 times a day at minimum)
Saum – fast (atleast the month of Ramadhan every year)
Zakat – charity (atleast 5 % of your wealth to the under priviledged, the more the better)
Hajj – pilgrimage to Makkah (if financially feasible)
Does any of this include violence or killing ?
God in Islam advocates immense patience. But unlike other religions, oppression is advised to be fought against and establishment of justice be made an article of faith..So yeah, its a balanced way of life..It promotes the idea that if you smack someone across the face then be ready to bear the consequences..nothing will go scott free
crusades?
It's way past time for the self-appointed tolerance police to stop with the condescending pronouncements of hate and ignorance. What rich irony to hear, week after week, the tedious stereotypes all those awful stereotypers!
It is a critical component of the human intellect to generalize–to reflexively extrapolate from limited information what else might be true. That amazing capacity serves us well most of the time. Unfortunately, with people it tends to propagate mistrust. It takes some effort to keep our generalizations from becoming self-fulfilling prophesies.
All living creatures, humans included, are cautious of what is unfamiliar. To throw the moral accusation of bigotry at what is a simple survival mechanism (misapplied as it may be) only serves to heighten the sense of a correlating threat. Only in the bizarre world of PC is unconditional trust considered a human right. In the real world, trust is never presumed and must always be earned.
When trust is desired, but not readily granted, the rational course of action is to attempt to allay the fear, not hurl moral accusations. We allay fear by acknowledging any of its legitimate roots and by offering a broader explanation, perhaps a counter-demonstration of some sort.
When I hear people generalize about Muslims as evil terrorists, I tell them about my three trips to Jordan and Syria–how I, an obvious blonde-haired, blue-eyed American was warmly received each time. I emphasize how the worst of people always makes the news long before the normal decency of people does. But those few of us who are fortunate enough to have experienced the positive side of Muslims, cannot possibly fix the problem. Muslims who feel compelled by their beliefs to set themselves apart by their dress and grooming habits need to own the inherent challenge of the ambassadorship they have thereby accepted. It is on them to humbly acknowledge a certain validity to the roots of people's fears and to patiently seek to expand their perceptions by living out the counter-example in front of them.
The situation on Atlanta Southeast Airlines could have provided the Imams with a perfect teachable moment. They could have responded, "It's perfectly understandable, given the past ten years, that some are going to be uncomfortable with our presence. Is there any way we can address people's fears? Can we request an additional security check? A full pat-down? You all deserves to fly without being afraid, we also ask for the chance to fly without being the source of fear."
It's time for all of us to embark on some creative trust-building instead of continually trotting out all the tired old PC drivel.
Keith.
Wow already I fell in love for the blond hair and the blue eyes....lovely to see the ocean in your eyes... Hope one day if things become well in Yemen you pay us a visit to see the Yemen History (Queen of Sheba)...see how we will receive you on the top of our heads no matter what belief you are as long as you are kind, lovable and considerate...you see it is all about morals and how you look upon people and deal with in mutual respect what ever race or faith or culture they are.
I too would be very afraid to travel in a plane with muslim imams on board. Here's why:
They all follow the teachings of Mohammad in the Quran and the example of their devout leader Osama who repeatedly said:
"I am one of the servants of Allah. We do our duty of fighting for the sake of the religion of Allah. It is also our duty to send a call to all the people of the world to enjoy this great light and to embrace Islam and experience the happiness in Islam. Our primary mission is nothing but the furthering of this religion." Osama bin Laden (1957 – 2011)
"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29
Until we in the West choose not to fool ourselves under the cloak of political correctness and blind ourselves to what is happening around the world and our own country, we will not only never make progress but also place ourselves in grave danger.
Thanks for taking them off this plane. God knows what disaster was averted in the wake of recent events.
Were they not searched before boarding the plane? Oh yes they might been able to blow the plane down with a big fart !
You are a total sissy, that's the real reason. In fact you can't even admit the true reason is that you are a coward, and a fearful little twerp.
Wow...very rarely do I feel motivated to violence here, but I actually kind of want to slap you.
Kinda obvious who are being too cowards here to accept that they are multinational and multiculture country, it is no longer belonging to certain culture or group of faith.... Open your eyes before it is too late....the sissies here are those who are not able to stand living among other cultures and faiths with out fear of mixing....wash your eyes,ears,clean your heart, mind and try to learn more on how you can stand up together with your multi culture,multinational nation mending the gap since soon you will be having what the MidEast had and that time it would be too late to bring "Humpty Dumpty" back together again.
Idiot
Catherine,
Your comment is the epitome of irony: you are blind to the your own blindness, the blindness that has itself brought the world to the brink.
Yeah, I know Imam's Masudur Rahman and Mohamed Zaghloul will probably invite the prejudiced pilot over for dinner after they get through collecting from suing his silly behind. If a KKK member had gotten on the plane in full garb he would have politely spoken to him and bib him a good flight.
It may have escaped your notice, but Islam is a very decentralized religion that has no singular "leader." Many Imams have publicly denounced Osama bin Laden's theology as a dangerous misinterpretation of Islam. So declarations that all imams are devoted followers of OBL are factually untrue, and if that's the basis of your fear then I have to say you are fearful of a lie.
When I debate something on a public forum, I make sure that I know what I'm talking about so I don't sound ignorant to the assembled masses of the world. This is something that perhaps you could take a lesson in. It is quite obvious from your posts that you don't have a single clue what Islam stands for, have never read the Quran, or sought to discover the motivations for religious extremism. bin Laden and Al Qaeda no more accurately represents Islam then the Ku Klux Klan or the Westboro Baptist Church represents Christianity. I could also easily assemble a list of the abuses that Christianity (or any other religion for that matter) has perpetuated upon the world that is as long as the one that 'Reality' posted above.
Hello Catherine. May peace and blessings be upon you. I see you quoted something from the Quran. Surah 48 ayat 29. What exactly does that mean considering that the Muslims book which is Gods words are written in Arabic. what you quoted was english which is a different meaning in Arabic and the context is probably different. Would you care to elaborate on the line from the muslims holy book?
Valid concern. These people were on their way to an anti-Westerner conference so that is grounds for concern.
Oh is so unfair to discriminate while no christian, Jews, hindu, Buddhist and pagan house of worship nor their holy book is allowed in Saudi Arabia where Muslim holiest place is.
well only the christan book and jew book is allowed
no buddhist or pagan
What the use of such books at a place where there are non but Muslims ? Any foreign working there is surely allowed to bring his own books and may have their own place of worship...the only things which are not allowed are those acting as missionaries in the purpose of converting Muslims....and that for their own safety beside the safety of those dumb enough to follow any such unworthy illusions among tough and firm society...
This comment was not written in English. Go back to school, you ignorant hillbilly.
Who said your English is English ? It is American English! So now you can count mine as Arabic English .....and buzz off since I notice that I find you after every comment I make.....
Are you too stupid to realize that what makes American freedom of religion BETTER than Muslim extremism? The freedom people have to be who they are?
This is not Saudi Arabia last time I checked? Neither were those Imams
Saudi Arabia also doesn't claim to be a free society where it's citizens are able to worship as they please. America does make that claim.