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May 13th, 2011
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Half of New Testament forged, Bible scholar saysBy John Blake, CNN (CNN) - A frail man sits in chains inside a dank, cold prison cell. He has escaped death before but now realizes that his execution is drawing near. “I am already being poured out like a drink offering, and the time of my departure has come,” the man –the Apostle Paul - says in the Bible's 2 Timothy. “I have fought the good fight. I have finished the race. I have kept the faith.” The passage is one of the most dramatic scenes in the New Testament. Paul, the most prolific New Testament author, is saying goodbye from a Roman prison cell before being beheaded. His goodbye veers from loneliness to defiance and, finally, to joy. There’s one just one problem - Paul didn’t write those words. In fact, virtually half the New Testament was written by impostors taking on the names of apostles like Paul. At least according to Bart D. Ehrman, a renowned biblical scholar, who makes the charges in his new book “Forged.” “There were a lot of people in the ancient world who thought that lying could serve a greater good,” says Ehrman, an expert on ancient biblical manuscripts.In “Forged,” Ehrman claims that: * At least 11 of the 27 New Testament books are forgeries. * The New Testament books attributed to Jesus’ disciples could not have been written by them because they were illiterate. * Many of the New Testament’s forgeries were manufactured by early Christian leaders trying to settle theological feuds. Were Jesus’ disciples ‘illiterate peasants?' Ehrman’s book, like many of his previous ones, is already generating backlash. Ben Witherington, a New Testament scholar, has written a lengthy online critique of “Forged.” Witherington calls Ehrman’s book “Gullible Travels, for it reveals over and over again the willingness of people to believe even outrageous things.” All of the New Testament books, with the exception of 2 Peter, can be traced back to a very small group of literate Christians, some of whom were eyewitnesses to the lives of Jesus and Paul, Witherington says. “Forged” also underestimates the considerable role scribes played in transcribing documents during the earliest days of Christianity, Witherington says. Even if Paul didn’t write the second book of Timothy, he would have dictated it to a scribe for posterity, he says. “When you have a trusted colleague or co-worker who knows the mind of Paul, there was no problem in antiquity with that trusted co-worker hearing Paul’s last testimony in prison,” he says. “This is not forgery. This is the last will and testament of someone who is dying.” Ehrman doesn’t confine his critique to Paul’s letters. He challenges the authenticity of the Gospels of Matthew, Mark and John. He says that none were written by Jesus' disciplies, citing two reasons. He says none of the earliest gospels revealed the names of its authors, and that their current names were later added by scribes. Ehrman also says that two of Jesus’ original disciples, John and Peter, could not have written the books attributed to them in the New Testament because they were illiterate. “According to Acts 4:13, both Peter and his companion John, also a fisherman, were agrammatoi, a Greek word that literally means ‘unlettered,’ that is, ‘illiterate,’ ’’ he writes. Will the real Paul stand up? Ehrman reserves most of his scrutiny for the writings of Paul, which make up the bulk of the New Testament. He says that only about half of the New Testament letters attributed to Paul - 7 of 13 - were actually written by him. Paul's remaining books are forgeries, Ehrman says. His proof: inconsistencies in the language, choice of words and blatant contradiction in doctrine. For example, Ehrman says the book of Ephesians doesn’t conform to Paul’s distinctive Greek writing style. He says Paul wrote in short, pointed sentences while Ephesians is full of long Greek sentences (the opening sentence of thanksgiving in Ephesians unfurls a sentence that winds through 12 verses, he says). “There’s nothing wrong with extremely long sentences in Greek; it just isn’t the way Paul wrote. It’s like Mark Twain and William Faulkner; they both wrote correctly, but you would never mistake the one for the other,” Ehrman writes. The scholar also points to a famous passage in 1 Corinthians in which Paul is recorded as saying that women should be “silent” in churches and that “if they wish to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home.” Only three chapters earlier, in the same book, Paul is urging women who pray and prophesy in church to cover their heads with veils, Ehrman says: “If they were allowed to speak in chapter 11, how could they be told not to speak in chapter 14?” Why people forged Forgers often did their work because they were trying to settle early church disputes, Ehrman says. The early church was embroiled in conflict - people argued over the treatment of women, leadership and relations between masters and slaves, he says. “There was competition among different groups of Christians about what to believe and each of these groups wanted to have authority to back up their views,” he says. “If you were a nobody, you wouldn’t sign your own name to your treatise. You would sign Peter or John.” So people claiming to be Peter and John - and all sorts of people who claimed to know Jesus - went into publishing overdrive. Ehrman estimates that there were about 100 forgeries created in the name of Jesus’ inner-circle during the first four centuries of the church. Witherington concedes that fabrications and forgeries floated around the earliest Christian communities. But he doesn’t accept the notion that Peter, for example, could not have been literate because he was a fisherman. “Fisherman had to do business. Guess what? That involves writing, contracts and signed documents,” he said in an interview. Witherington says people will gravitate toward Ehrman’s work because the media loves sensationalism. “We live in a Jesus-haunted culture that’s biblically illiterate,” he says. “Almost anything can pass for historical information… A book liked ‘Forged’ can unsettle people who have no third or fourth opinions to draw upon.” Ehrman, of course, has another point of view. “Forged” will help people accept something that it took him a long time to accept, says the author, a former fundamentalist who is now an agnostic. The New Testament wasn’t written by the finger of God, he says - it has human fingerprints all over its pages. “I’m not saying people should throw it out or it’s not theologically fruitful,” Ehrman says. “I’m saying that by realizing it contains so many forgeries, it shows that it’s a very human book, down to the fact that some authors lied about who they were.” soundoff (2,204 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39
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it is now evident that christianity is a human invention as amalgama of pagan doctrines , not what jesus was sent to preach.christians are not certain on what they believe. bible is not even as authentic as hadith collected after the demise of prophet muhammad unlike the quran recorded and verified by prophet muhammad himself through divine guidance. i urge christian to revert to islam the original religion preached by jesus upto muhammad the final messenger
None of the Dogmas of the Church stand up to make sense. I consider all the Dogmas as false and I can give evidence
The New Testament should get a hearing in public courts
It is not fair to have the people suffering as a result of the New Testament
The New Testament deals with the enlightment of the person and that is above the belly button
We are now in a romantic age because humans has got betrter control of disease
The way i see it is,,,, its not about whos religion is right & whos is rong, all religions & humans are beautiful in their own way. Its all about what we humans can do to make our home Earth better for one another. The simplest thigs like sharing & showing respect to all people & their beliefs, comming together to spread Peace n Love umong each other, truly being honest with yourself & to others, being respectful & showing kindness to each other in all aspects of life, these little things i truly believe can & will make a Wold of differance!
The problem with that line of thinking is that to fundamentalist Christians it IS about who is right and who is wrong. To them, Christ is the ONLY way, making all other religions and spiritual traditions false and any claim otherwise is a lie from the pits of hell. You can not argue with people like that. They will not and can not listen to reason because they no longer possess the ability or desire to think critically. To them EVERYTHING is based on faith and any evidence or even outright proof of anything that contradicts that faith is automatically dismissed and derided. As one evangelical minister put it, "If somewhere within the Bible, I were to find a passage that said 2 + 2 = 5, I wouldn't question what I'm reading in the Bible. I would believe it, accept it as true, and then do my best to work it out and understand it." (Peter LaRuffa)
Brilliantly written and right on!
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they are chickens. they know god is. no doubts. they are engaged in some sin they refuse to yield to him.
What IF
This is another tired repeti.tion of Pascal's Wager – thoroughly refuted since the 17th century (where have you been?)
– What if the real "God" is Allah, or Vishnu, or Zeus, or Quetzalcoatl, or any of the other of thousands which have been dreamed up over the centuries? Some of them are very jealous and vengeful and will relegate you to nasty places for not worshiping them. You'd better cover your butt by believing in ALL of them and fulfill their wishes and demands.
– What if the real "God" prefers those who use logic and reason and punishes you as a silly sycophant?
– What if the real "God" detests those who believe something just to cover their butts in eternity?
bartie baby, u have no clue except, “There were a lot of people in the ancient world who thought that lying could serve a greater good,” says Ehrman, an expert on ancient biblical manuscripts.In “Forged,” and plenty of people alive right now who are clueless, selfish, money hungry, vain, blah blah blah
but, he's correct. it was forged by birdbrains earnestly seeking to die for lies they created.
prophet Muhammad pbuh said some verses in biblle are true from god,some are forged.He did not read bible but gibriel told him from God(Allah).
The price of salvation is just simply to believe that Jesus is the Messiah. The appointed Savior. The Annointed from God – the Christ. You do not need to mock the Bible. If you do not believe it, then go your own way. I can say the same about what you believe – then who would be right? Me or you? And it is not a matter of winning this dispute. However, "All a person’s ways seem pure to them, but motives are weighed by the Lord" (New International Version, Proverbs 16:2). I rather die trying, versus not try at all and ending up in hell. You will never know how an orange will taste until you peel the skin and eat. Same with God, until you try Him, you will never know.
This is another tired repeti.tion of Pascal's Wager - thoroughly refuted since the 17th century (where have you been?)
- What if the real "God" is Allah, or Vishnu, or Zeus, or Quetzalcoatl, or any of the other of thousands which have been dreamed up over the centuries? Some of them are very jealous and vengeful and will relegate you to nasty places for not worshiping them. You'd better cover your butt by believing in ALL of them and fulfill their wishes and demands.
- What if the real "God" prefers those who use logic and reason and punishes you as a silly sycophant?
- What if the real "God" detests those who believe something just to cover their butts in eternity?
"WHAT IF" this is a response to your comment "This is another tired repeti.tion of Pascal's Wager – thoroughly refuted since the 17th century (where have you been?)
– What if the real "God" is Allah, or Vishnu, or Zeus, or Quetzalcoatl, or any of the other of thousands which have been dreamed up over the centuries? Some of them are very jealous and vengeful and will relegate you to nasty places for not worshiping them. You'd better cover your butt by believing in ALL of them and fulfill their wishes and demands.
– What if the real "God" prefers those who use logic and reason and punishes you as a silly sycophant?
– What if the real "God" detests those who believe something just to cover their butts in eternity?"
That is what i have clearly commented in my previous one that the real God who made heaven and earth ,you and me and every single person in earth knows every single thought and desire and longing in each persons heart... call unto Jesus honestly with all ur heart... you will know He is God by the way He responds to you... its a simple challenge ...
@Jasmine – Unless I'm reading your post incorrectly, it appears you are confusing "faith" with actual "knowledge." Your most earnest "faith" is still without direct empirical support. Furthermore, as a fallible human, even if your preferred god was the correct god, you must concede that you are subject to error in any attempt at understanding "His Will." If you could actual "know" the things you claim, it would no longer be "faith," but worse still, would effectively be claiming yourself the equal of your preferred god in understanding its intent. The claim that you're right because you believe you are right by no means undermines the fatal logical flaws of Pascal's Wager as pointed out above.
Jasmine
By "the way He responds to you.." you mean by the gut feeling you expect to get while awaiting for a "sign" from God, right? Muslims believe basically the same thing about Allah, and the same goes for the reincarnation and UFO alien believers too.
@redzoa
sorry mam/sir, i am not confusing faith with knowledge...." it appears you are confusing "faith" with actual "knowledge." Your most earnest "faith" is still without direct empirical support." Knowledge has nothing to do with faith unless untill it is the knowledge about Jesus and unless untill its the knowledge about Bible... as lot of people say Bible is a myth or forged or what ever... every historical event stated in Bible are true...and even archeologist have proved it .The truth that Jesus lived in the earth and was crucified is a truth that can never be proved wrong.... faith doesnt come from making research in religion or trying to figure out who true God is with our human brain ...Faith is believing in Jesus that He shed His blood to wash our sins away to make us holy and open the channel of communication between God and man that has got blocked by our sins..and repenting and accepting Jesus as our personal savior...i did that and i know who true God is...its just a choice and ultimately the choices we make affect our journey and destiny... it doesnt matter much what we choose ... what ultimately matters is whether the choice we made is right or wrong...
@Ben: i never mentioned any gut feelings in my posts... its not gut feeling .... its something different ...you have to experience it...its first of all not a religion... its just a relationship with God and[man [His creation]
Well damn – and here I thought I had invented this slogan "Gullible's Travels", but I see it is used by an author who is refuting this Ehrman book; lol. Of course my "Gullible's Travels" refers to the entire Christian Bible – so there is "~ Part 1" and "~ Part 2".
God would not let this happen.Such an important part of the bible God would not let some people forge and spread to people across the planet. If he did this he would be hurting his own kingdom. He sais in Matthew a nation divided against itself will not stand. If he allowed this would he not be going against himself. You can go back to the old testament and find plenty of verses that clearly tells you God's power is great and his Kingdom will stand.
"christian" My response to your comment: "God would not let this happen.Such an important part of the bible God would not let some people forge and spread to people across the planet. If he did this he would be hurting his own kingdom. He sais in Matthew a nation divided against itself will not stand. If he allowed this would he not be going against himself. You can go back to the old testament and find plenty of verses that clearly tells you God's power is great and his Kingdom will stand."
God gave man will, and can only warn about punishment of these things. His Kingdom will stand in the End, AMEN! But, as said, for example, in revelations 22:18-20:
"For I testify to every man that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add to these things, God shall add to him the plagues that are written in this book: 19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20He which testifies these things said, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. "
He warns about the severe punishment of these things, but he could not prevent the man from doing these things, he gave him will power. If he chooses to do so, so be it, but he will punish severely.
Ultimate question is whether God exists or not.. if He exists and if Jesus is God and you dont believe it.. what if everything in Bible is true and you miss out God and end up in hell... its just eternal punishment .. I was born in a christian family and was caught up in a situation where no single person around me can help except God.. that was the reason i prayed the sinners prayer and asked God to help... not only the help i needed for the moment but for all my life i am helped by God .. not only help restoration and blessing everything that i am blessed abundantly and happy and have peace Because of my faith in God which gives way for God's hand in our life.. i know personally for myself that Jesus Christ is God and He exists .. He is the true living God... Its just a matter of your conscience .. What ultimately matters is whether what you believe is true or not... You have all the right to make all the choices in your life... fruit of which[choices we make] we eat[face] daily... choose wisely ... Choose the truth not lies... if what you believe is a lie you will also be a liar.. if what you believe is true .. there will be truth in your life and also in you mouth..
You've been indoctrinated wonderfully. The truth is not relative; it not "what you believe". The truth is fact, and there isn't a single one pointing to any god. Your original assertion is known as Pascal's Wager - look it up and find out more about why it is a common misconception.
Sorry End religion i was about to reply but clicked the report abuse... I have mentioned the " ifs" not to base my belief ...my belief is because of my personal experience .. but the "ifs" i have mentioned for the people who have other thoughts and beliefs ... truth is a fact.. i agree 100% but what is the truth??? truth about God??? thats my challenge to trust in Jesus and You will know He is the only God by the way He reveals Himself for the people who believe in Him... Thats a challenge.. Because here comes one of the truth .. Jesus is God and its true that God made everything and including you ,your single cell in ur body and your heart.. nothing is hidden from God .. every single thought in you God knows and even your thought against God He knows.. i am not trying to intimidate you... God is very loving and Jesus died on the cross for every single person in earth and to forgive every single sins that you have done ... When you believe in God and pray He will surely respond you and .. when He responds you ,you will know He is God because no one else in the world can know what exactly is in man's heart except the one who made it... Its not "ifs" and "not" alone... its just a simple challenge ...and you wont regret for facing it...
No the information given here is wrong not every single disciple of Jesus were illiterates .. Luke was a physician and Paul was not an illiterate and Not a single word written in Bible will go wrong.. everything will be fulfilled including " I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll." Revelation 22:18
The bible is fiction. It is as much "prophecy" as is Nostradamus vague ramblings, or a Rorschach test. You see what you want and you've already expressed that you've been indoctrinated into a cult.
me i'm still waiting for lucifer to enspire someone to write his book. i mean seriously if god can do it, so can lucifer..........................except their both.............................FIGMENTS OF UNEDUCATED MINDS.
inspire
That's why we need the Book of Mormon. If the New Testament is half forged that's impure. We need the Book of Mormon because it's ALL forged.
How did you even find this story? It's almost a year and a half old.
As a former Mormon I can say, that the Book of Mormon is made up.
His name says it all Err man. Sounds like someone needed to make some money. Bart ought to write a book about how the Simpson's cartoons are all a forgery too!! He is after all a Simpson scholar since his name is Bart.
Christ’s take; Stop ministering lies about my Father’s Word!
In the previous letter I mentioned that the church I attended back in 1997 received a visitation from God, and that during that visitation I witnessed the Crucifixion Isaiah saw in his day. Several times over a three month period beginning late February 1997, a prophecy was spoken unto the church. It came forth out of the wife of one of the board members of the church. The prophetic message said, ‘Pray for John, I am going to raise him up’. Outside the church, numerous prophecies were spoken unto me by the same lady; those prophecies testified of a new House that Christ said He was going to build, they testified of God’s anger towards the pastors, preachers, and teachers who minister His Word, they testified of seven sins that God saw in the hearts of those who minister His Word; greed, pride, control, unbelief, indecision, deception and jealously, and they testified that God called many but when they attained money and power through God they forsook God. When I began receiving those prophetic messages that I believed in my spirit were of God through His Son, the word of the Lord came unto me saying, ‘View each message being spoken unto you as a piece of a puzzle. Don’t seek for understanding in them at this time because I have not yet given you the knowledge of that which I have spoken unto you’. The last prophecy spoke unto me was this ‘I will no longer speak unto you through prophecy; I have given you all the pieces of the puzzle that I needed to give you. I have revealed unto you my Father’s plan; it’s time for you to seek my face to hear what my Spirit is saying in my Father’s Word’.
When the prophecy came forth to pray for John that God was going to raise him up, the pastor and congregation began praying for a man in the congregation who was ill at the time; this man was injured in a car accident many years earlier that left him paralyzed from the waist down. Based upon that prophecy, the pastor and congregation believed that this man was going to receive a divine healing and walk. While I would like to have seen a miracle like this appears, there was a conflict in my spirit about this prophecy. I believed in my spirit that the prophecy was of God, but didn’t believe in my heart that John was going to walk. The contradiction between what I felt in my spirit and what I believed in my heart left me believing that the church’s prayers unto God to raise John out of his wheelchair were vain. On the way home from church that Sunday evening, after partaking in the prayer for John that I didn’t believe God was going to answer, I told God that I felt the situation that took place in church that evening was silly. Early the following morning I received a phone call telling me that my stepson had been taken to the hospital; that he woke up in the middle of the night paralyzed down one half of his body. That was an awakening moment for me! Before going to the hospital I sought God to heal my stepson. The response I got back was this ‘the lad is in no pain. I took him down because you are not taking seriously that which I have spoken unto you. When you take seriously that which I have spoken unto thee I will bring the lad up’. Six weeks later my stepson walked out of the hospital and to this very day there is no evidence of Multiple Sclerosis which is what the hospital speculated may have happened.
The lady who prophesied in the church, and unto me, joined the church two years prior to God’s visitation. I began attending that church in 1991. When she joined the church God set it upon my spirit that He was going to reveal something unto me through her that would give me understanding in His purpose for the revelation He had given me in His Son between 1964 and 1971. I was a prisoner of the Cross for nearly twenty-seven years in the sense that the doctrines of the church I attended between 1964 and 1971 did not bear witness of the revelation I received from God in His Son during those years. Neither did the doctrines I received between 1991 and 1997 bear witness of Christ. I sought God many times to reveal unto me His purpose for the revelation He had given me in His Son because I couldn’t understand why the doctrines of the church did not bear the knowledge He had given me in His Son. God answered my supplication during His visitation. The Crucifixion I witnessed of God’s Spirit opened my understanding in the sins my pastor committed against God, and through that knowledge God delivered me from the bondage brought upon me between 1964 and 1971 through religious doctrines that did not bear witness to what God had revealed unto me during those years.
In May of 1997 I left the church and gave my heart unto seeking God for understanding in all the prophecies that I had heard and all the things I witnessed in the church during His visitation. A couple of weeks before I left, the word of the Lord came unto me saying, ‘When John goes up the pastor will go down’. My pastor’s lack of understanding in God’s Spirit was exposed in several closed door meeting between himself, the board members of the church, the lady through whom the Lord spoke, and me. Several of the prophecies spoken unto me were delivered unto the pastor through the mouth of the husband of the lady through whom the Lord spoke unto me through prophecy. The pastor mocked Christ through Sermons he preached on the premise of the prophecies spoken unto me. When he preached his understanding of the prophecies that testified Christ was going to build a new House he deceived the congregation by claiming that God had told him to build a new church. Several members of the church gave financial support for that project; one of the board members gave his entire saving which was never returned when the church was not built. The church was never built. When the Lord sent me before the pastor in a closed door meetings to ask him why he deceived the congregation he became extremely angry with me. That was not the only time the Lord sent me before the pastor, He took me before him a total of nine times; his anger towards me multiplied exceedingly.
A couple of days prior to hearing the prophecy that testified God saw seven sins in the heart of the priesthood, God had given me a vision of a heart that had seven things that looked like spikes sticking out of it. Two on the top on the right side of arch, two on the top of the left side of the arch, one on either side, and one out the bottom. When I heard the prophecy, I understood what I had seen. The day after the prophecy was spoken unto me, the husband of the lady through whom the prophecy was spoken ran into the pastor at the post office. When he got home he told his wife that the pastor had told him God had shown him that he had seven sins in his heart. There was no mistake that God’s Spirit was moving in the church; He spoke to several members of the church through signs, wonders, dreams and visions. The problem was the shepherd leading the flock did not know God’s Spirit therefore his theologies were based upon his own understanding which ultimately created a circus in the church. When he saw the problem he had created he didn’t know how to handle it, so he called in the head of the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada to clean up his mess. Two of the board who believed it was God’s Spirit moving in the church along with the pastor, met with the head of the POAC who dismissed the matter; fired the board members and left the pastor to continue in the church to this day.
God’s request unto the pastor and the congregation to seek Him in prayer to raise up John has been a fervent prayer of mine for seventeen years. The Book of Revelation is addressed unto the leaders of the churches. The revelations recorded in the book were given unto John by God through Christ who spoke unto the churches in the first three chapters of the book calling them to repent of their sins. The knowledge revealing what God’s Spirit is saying in the Book of Revelation bears the Testimony of Christ that God gave unto me between 1964 and 1971, and the revelation of the prophecies that His Son spoke unto me in 1997 was the foundation God laid upon which He opened my understanding in His Word.
Today we are living in an era of self-fulfilled prophesies of the Book of Revelation. We are in a terrible mess! Everyone needs to pray to God to raise up John because when Christ fulfills on earth the testimony written in the Book of Revelation He will deliver God’s people out of the hard bondage brought upon them by wrongful translations of the book brought forth by those who claim to be God’s servants.
Revelations 20:12. And I saw the dead small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is called the book of life: and the dead were judged out of things which were written in the books, according to their works.
The dead small and great testify of the patriarchs, the major and minor Prophets, the disciples and Paul. The books they wrote are going to be opened which means God is going to bringing forth the knowledge of books called His Word. For the time is come that judgement must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And IF THE RIGHTEOUS SCARCELY BE SAVED, WHERE SHALL THE UNGODLY AND THE SINNER APPEAR?, 1 Peter 4:17 and 18.
The churches theology that God keeps a set a books of all our deeds on earth and then judges us when are dead is absolutely insane. God’s House is a Divine House made without hands and is manifested through the truth the His Word revealed unto man through God’s Spirit by way of Christ Jesus. The scriptures testify that judgement begins at the House of the Lord. Peter understood the House of God dwelt within him through the knowledge he received from God through Christ by way of God’s Spirit, and that God was going to judge his works according to the knowledge He gave him through His Son. The Book of Life is Christ; his truths of His Father’s Word will reveal the books written by the prophets, the disciples and Paul. If the righteous who wrote the books are going to be judged when He returns what will be the judgement upon those who brought forth a false testimony of the books?
Genesis 1:8 and 9 testifies that God parted the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament, and that God called the dry land earth, and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas. God called the firmament Heaven. God is a Spirit revealed by His Word which is the waters above the firmament. The waters below the firmament testifies of the gods of man’s imagery. God parted the waters above the firmament from the waters below the firmament by revealing unto man the bondage caused by the foolishness of their imagery. Through delivering man out of their state of darkness (bondage) God revealed himself unto man and he called that union of the two waters Seas. The dry land he called earth testifies of man’s carnal state.
In Revelation 20:13 the scripture testify the Sea gave up the dead. The Sea is God’s Word; the dead speaks of ministers who have no understanding in God’s Word. The truth of God’s Word gives up the dead through revealing those who minister His Word have no understanding in His Word. Death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. Job 38:12 to 17: Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place. That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken. Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? Or hast thou walked in search of the depth? Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? Or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death? There is a way that seemeth right unto a man; but the end thereof are the ways of death, Proverbs 16:25. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace, Romans 8:6. In these scriptures death speaks of a man’s spiritual state. Hell isn’t a fire beneath the earth. We are living in it through man being partakers of self-fulfilled prophecies. Look at what the churches theology of God’s Word has brought in the world, especially throughout the Middle East. The scriptures testify the dead are going to be cast into the lake of fire, testifying God is going to cause the dead to reap what they have sown. In Matthew 16:16 Christ said He would build His church and the gates of hell would not prevail against it. His church is the Spiritual House of God that dwelt within the patriarchs, the prophets, the disciples and Paul through the knowledge they received from God by way of His Spirit; and that knowledge bore the Testimony of His Son who is the True and Living Temple of God.
There will be many, both inside and outside the church who will perceive this letter as an attack upon the church. Be not ye one of them. Think ye not that God knew the day He called man to be ministers unto Him that man who defiled His House? Yea, He spoke of it often in His Word. What saith the scriptures, many were called, few were chosen. Be ye not judges lest ye be judged; God is Judge over both the righteous and the unrighteous. In these latter days praise God for the truth of His Word; Seek ye Christ, and work out your salvation with fear and trembling for none shall escape God’s judgement not even the atheist, the scriptures testify every knee shall bow before God.
Being a minister unto God means seeking Him for understanding in His Word, and bringing that knowledge forth. I have made many sacrifices in my life unto God and have suffered many trials and tribulation in search of the wealth of God’s Kingdom which is the knowledge God gave me by way of His Son through His Spirit. When a man giveth his heart unto God he receiveth great wealth, the man’s desire is that God giveth unto His people that which has been given unto him for he knoweth that the richness of God is His Son, who giveth unto man the peace of God through which man prospers in the earth. The wealth that God has freely given unto me is freely being given unto you on the website God commanded me to build. I have never used God’s Word to financially prosper off of nor will that day come. The free will offering on the site is there because God instructed me to put it there and I will surely take the offerings of God’s people before God and do that which God’s commands of me. Your decision of whether or not to make that offering is between you and God. Your decision will not prevent you from freely receiving that which has been freely given unto me. Foreknowing that many will steal God’s Word from the website and try to financially prosper off His Word I ask that ye be watchful and not be taken by deceivers. Know this; there will be no marketing of God’s Word made by me in any form. I am not a merchant; I am a servant.
A few months after I received God’s call, which was in February 1997, a violent storm with high winds and heavy rainfall struck the community where I live. When I looked out my window I was surprised at what I saw. Garbage cans and several other items people keep outside their homes were being tossed around by the winds as though they were feathers. While thinking about what I was seeing, which was something unusual for my area, the Word of the Lord came unto me, saying, I am changing the weather. How does one relate to that? Quite simply I couldn’t. A few days later another storm arose. When I looked out my window I saw three small tornadoes coming from the east. They touched down before reaching the little village where I lived causing minor damage. Later that evening the Word of the Lord came unto me, saying, What meaneth these three tornadoes? I was shocked, then replied, Lord I don’t know, how could I. These three tornadoes saith the Lord, represent the Father, the Son and the Word, and when they make landfall there will be great destruction in the earth, but fear not that day, for that day must need come. From that day to this the weather has drastically changed; tornadoes bearing strong winds, heavy rainfall and hail are common occurrences of our times. And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail, Revelation 11:19.
Shortly after God’s call, God set it upon my heart to pay attention to the President of the United States. When President George Bush Junior was elected President of the United Sates I wept. I felt in my spirit that he was going to do something that would wreak havoc in the earth, what I knew not. When he commanded a military strike on Iraq I felt in my heart that his decision was based upon his religious beliefs which he has recently acknowledged through saying he was on a mission from God when he launched the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. When he took that stand he did not open the door for peace; he closed it, and today we have a Muslim religious regime who believes it is their duty unto God to fulfill the philosophies of a book written by a man who was as misguided in his religious beliefs as was/is President George Bush junior. Today, there are four candidates in the race to become the next President of the United States. Whoever sits in that seat in November will experience the strong hand of God. I believe that President Barrack Obama is the most likely of all the candidates to seek after the truth and righteousness of God.
Ariel
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What you've described is just evidence of your supposed experience, it proves nothing Surely you are aware that ANYONE can stand up In "church" and start speaking, ANYONE can say they are providing a message from God, ANYONE can say that what they've written was inspired by God – it's a mistake to assume, their God is the same as your God. ANYONE can claim to have received a vision, message from God, etc. Absolutely, positively ALL religions are made up by MAN, a God that is truly God does not need or require all the crap and ceremony created by MAN. Christianity did not replace paganism, it is the great last pagan religion! Oh, there most surely is a God – there is only one Divine Intelligence, of that i know for sure- but the crap man made up – man can have it and continue murdering each other over their man-made interpretation and dogma!
You and I both know you're lying through your teeth. You didn't see or hear jack squat.
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Salvation is like Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny they are both lies.
You know, they make medication for that.
the only way of life is islam---the holy quran
you can't find any mistake in god's word,if so it is not god's word
but here many verses are lost and wrongly inserted
You're deluded. Man created God.
God actually talked to you and revealed prophecies? Like the last guy said...they have medication for what you're suffering from.
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Everyone is missing the bigger picture. It's not that the disciples were illiterate that is surprising, or that it's mostly forged, or that there are plain inconsistencies that cannot be denied that are eyebrow raising. No, the bigger missed point is that the alleged Son Of God was also apparently illiterate, because he never wrote a darned thing down. You'd think that the Son Of God would know what mankind was like, and therefore would have passed on a permanent written tome right when he was there, instead of relying on hand-me-down stories 100 years after the fact. That, right there, tells me it's all total crap. It makes no sense, and no apologetic can rationalize that one glaring fact.
Dear hhb: You have a brilliant point. I am convinced that the bible is written by man about a Jewish fisher, who certainly is not god (because she does not exist). And "FORGED".
What about the other half of the new testament? Isn't that forged too?
The Koran was created after the Bible was written, and after Buddhism and Hinduism had already existed for many centuries. The reference to the Angel Gabriel first appeared centuries before in the Old Testament.Moses appeared In the Old Testament centuries before. The Koran was a religion created after exposure to other sects and religions by merchants on the Silk Trade Route.
Where is the Gospel of Jesus Christ? And the Torah of Moses? All that the Christians have now is the new Testament and the old Testament, neither of which is the Gospel of Jesus nor the Torah of Moses, except for fragments of each. Bart Erhman is proving the fact that the Bible is a collection books that were written by anonymous writers who have been proven to be forgers. If you are honest and truthful in your quest for the inerrant word of God as revealed to Jesus and Moses it is preserved in the final Testament the Holy Quran.