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Manny Pacquiao laces up gloves in country's fight over birth control
Manny Pacquiao, right, easily defeated Shane Mosely this month, but can he repeat in the Filipino birth control bout?
May 20th, 2011
04:22 PM ET

Manny Pacquiao laces up gloves in country's fight over birth control

Manny Pacquaio's latest fight could be much tougher than pounding on “Sugar” Shane Mosley for 12 rounds.

Fresh off his trouncing of the American welterweight contender, Pacquiao, 32 – who also serves as a Sarangani representative in the Filipino Congress – has entered the ring again to denounce a reproductive health bill that he and his fellow lawmakers are considering.

The bill has several controversial provisions, such as the requirement that women experiencing problems after abortions, which would still be banned, must be treated humanely and compassionately.

Pacquiao and President Benigno Aquino III, a backer of the bill, agree abortion should be outlawed, The Manila Times reported. Where they part ways is on the issue of contraception, according to Filipino media.

Aquino believes couples should be educated on birth control and should be free to choose the method they deem most appropriate, the Philippine Daily Inquirer reported. Pacquiao, on the other glove, opposes contraception and paraphrased Genesis to defend his stance.

“God said, ‘Go forth and multiply.' He did not say, ‘Go and have just one or two children,’” the People’s Champ said, according the paper.

Read the full story on This Just In, CNN's news blog

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Abortion • Catholic Church • Faith & Health • Health care • Philippines • Politics • Sports

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  1. Josh

    A. You're not a citizen, stop trying to change our rules B. God isn't a citizen, and he doesn't make our rules either.

    May 23, 2011 at 12:37 pm |
  2. Colin in Florida

    Pacquiao said "God said, ‘Go forth and multiply.' He did not say, ‘Go and have just one or two children,’” the People’s Champ said, according the paper."

    Maybe god meant people were to learn math? I mean, the word fourth is in there as well? Maybe god wanted us to use a base 4 math system?

    No matter what he says, people have brains, and should be trained in using them, not just memorizing and spewing possibly meaningless passages from suspect books.

    May 23, 2011 at 12:32 am |
    • taipan70

      Seriously....Im a Pac fan at heart and even met the chap before he became a true boxing icon. I also have lived there. Pac should have a bit of common sense. In the Philippines a major underlying part of the economical and social issues stem from overpopulation. In area size roughly as slightly larger than Arizona, and with a population of 1/3 of the US. The country would be better off with birth control options for its citizens. The country is roughly the square size of Whoever his political advisors are, they are clearly afraid to confront him on this issue and the merits of contraceptives. They all should be fired.

      May 23, 2011 at 6:47 pm |
  3. Reality

    For global distribution:

    "Facts on Contraceptive Use

    http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_contr_use.html
    January 2008

    "WHO NEEDS CONTRACEPTIVES?

    • 62 million U.S. women (and men?) are in their childbearing years (15–44).[1]

    • 43 million women (and men) of reproductive age, or 7 in 10, are se-xually active and do not want to become pregnant, but could become pregnant if they or their partners fail to use a con-traceptive method.[2]

    • The typical U.S. woman (man?) wants only 2 children. To achieve this goal, she (he?) must use cont-raceptives for roughly 3 decades.[3]

    WHO USES CON-TRACEPTIVES?

    • Virtually all women (98%) aged 15–44 who have ever had int-ercourse have used at least one con-traceptive method.[2](and men?)

    • Overall, 62% of the 62 million women aged 15–44 are currently using one.[2] (and men)

    • 31% of the 62 million women (and men?) do not need a method because they are infertile; are pregnant, postpartum or trying to become pregnant; have never had inte-rcourse; or are not se-xually active.[2]

    • Thus, only 7% of women aged 15–44 are at risk of unwanted pregnancy but are not using con-traceptives.[2] (and men?)

    • Among the 42 million fertile, s-exually active women who do not want to become pregnant, 89% are practicing con-traception.[2] (and men?)

    WHICH METHODS DO WOMEN (men?) USE?

    • 64% of reproductive-age women who practice con-traception use reversible methods, such as oral con-traceptives or condoms. The remaining women rely on female or male sterilization.[2]

    FIRST-YEAR CON-TRACEPTIVE FAILURE RATES

    Percentage of women (men?) experiencing an unintended pregnancy (a few examples)

    Method
    Typical

    Pill (combined) 8.7
    Tubal sterilization 0.7
    Male condom 17.4
    Vasectomy 0.2

    Periodic abstinence 25.3
    Calendar 9.0
    Ovulation Method 3.0
    Sympto-thermal 2.0
    Post-ovulation 1.0

    No method 85.0"

    (Abstinence) 0

    (Masturbation) 0

    More facts about contraceptives from

    guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_contr_use.html

    "CON-TRACEPTIVE METHOD CHOICE

    Cont-raceptive method use among U.S. women who practice con-traception, 2002

    Method No. of users (in 000s) % of users
    Pill 11,661 30.6
    Male condom 6,841 18.0 "

    i.e.
    The pill fails to protect women 8.7% during the first year of use (from the same reference previously shown).

    i.e. 0.087 (failure rate)
    x 62 million (# child bearing women)
    x 0.62 ( % of these women using contraception )
    x 0.306 ( % of these using the pill) =

    1,020,000 unplanned pregnancies
    during the first year of pill use.

    For male condoms (failure rate of 17.4 and 18% use level)

    1,200,000 unplanned pregnancies during the first year of male condom use.

    The Gut-tmacher Inst-itute (same reference) notes also that the perfect use of the pill should result in a 0.3% failure rate
    (35,000 unplanned pregnancies) and for the male condom, a 2% failure rate (138,000 unplanned pregnancies).

    o Conclusion: The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill and male condom have led to the large rate of abortions and S-TDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the pill or condoms properly and/or use other methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.

    May 22, 2011 at 12:16 am |
  4. Dorianmode

    It's all a tempest in a teapot. One of my most favorite neighbors is a Filipino, and I asked her about these things once. She said abortion is widely available, on the black market, as are contraceptives. These will continue, no matter what the politicians do. When I asked her about why so many women use birth control in a Catholic country, she looked at me funny, and said, "For the same reason they do here, they don't care what the old men in red dresses say about anything".

    May 21, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
  5. Don juan

    Contraception is the same as abortion the ignorant religious hypocrite says..Hmmm? So, Masturbation should be outlawed there too.. Can one begin to imagine how many world class boxers are wasted dripping down our inner thighs..

    May 21, 2011 at 1:39 am |
  6. Jerry

    "Go forth and do long division...."

    May 21, 2011 at 12:33 am |
  7. Adelina

    All Christians including Catholics always rescue and preserve human lives. Real defenders of life for all time.

    May 20, 2011 at 10:50 pm |
    • The Further Adventures of No-No Bad Dog

      So that's what they were doing in the Crusades and the inquisitions and the Salem witch trials and the English Civil War and the 300 years of Catholic-Protestant wars after the schism: they were rescuing and preserving human lives. Got it. Makes perfect sense.

      Real defenders of life for all time. Right.

      May 21, 2011 at 12:32 am |
    • Adelina

      @TheFurther-, those were abusive incidents by exception, not at all overall Christian doings. Christians saved Europe, Americas, Asia, Africa and all the world from destruction, massacre and tyranny, saving 7 billion earthlings so far. You were not alive today if Christians didn't rescue your parents or told them not to abort children.

      May 21, 2011 at 3:38 am |
    • ihaveabridgetosellyou

      @Adelina The reason you are here is because your parents chose to have you. according to your argument no one would exist if that was true. Abortion has been legal for over 70 years and the population had tripled since then. And if your parents aborted you, you would'nt be here to have this argument so if you want to thank somebody it should be your parents not god.

      May 21, 2011 at 1:23 pm |
    • Jane doe

      My landlady is a professed Christian. And i have not seen a better liar and hypocrite.

      When someone proclaims he or she is a Christian, that's the time to run the other way.

      May 21, 2011 at 11:25 pm |
    • Squak! Polly Wants a Mai Tai, Polly Wants a Mai Tai

      I had the exact same experience in the Deep South, repeatedly. A lot.

      They must think that they don't have to be honest because they think they are saved already. And Mormon businesses just gouge you – most of them just add that 15% ti-the right to the top of the price so that you pay it, not them.

      I never ran across an openly religious business that wasn't high prices for noticably inferior quality and poor service.

      And if you want to see something that will really make you wish the end of the world DID come today, go see a Mormon performance where they have their kids performing. The incompetence at all levels will astound you . . . and bore you into a coma.

      May 21, 2011 at 11:49 pm |
    • Adelina

      @Ihave-, it's God who created my parents and I. I can never understand you for trying to rule out God from your life. Evil, evil creatures. Animals are better than atheists. @Jane- and Squak- : Christians in USA are kinder, much more honest, far more compassionate and much, much cleaner than unbelievers in language, life and in style. Unlike Christians, you guys always cuss, get drunk and sleep around like animals. I have nothing to do with Mormons but they are still far better than you in conducts.

      May 22, 2011 at 10:34 am |
    • Jane doe

      Just as we've said all along, run the other way. U r the prime exsmple- already accusing us as evil when you have no proof but your indoctrinated head,

      Simply because we are in disagreement doesn't make us who disagree with you evil.

      U r who u r: a proclaimed Christian.
      Christ had no idea.

      May 22, 2011 at 10:58 am |
    • Adelina

      Jane, disagreement is not the issue. Denying God is the worst evil a person can commit, deserving hell. A fact. And atheists prove that point by their history as well as their lifestyles. Christians are simply offering you the Way of salvation.

      May 22, 2011 at 11:27 pm |
    • Cathy W

      Adelina, the two most evil people of the 20th century were Adolph Hitler and Joseph Stalin. Hitler was an altar boy, and a devout Catholic Christian who thought he was doing God's work. He ended up killing more than 12 million people. Stalin, on the other hand was an atheist, who killed millions of his own people. What does that tell you? That the ability to do evil is not exclusive to atheists, and that a devout Christian can do great evil, too. Now, you should also look up the crime rate among Christians vs atheists. Guess which is lower – MUCH lower, actually? Atheists commit many fewer crimes. We make up 10% of the general population, but well under 1% of the prison population. So what does that tell you about our conduct? That it's generally better than that of Christians. As for cursing, well.... I've heard some pretty nasty language from all sorts of people. Didn't seem to matter much what the belief level was. And the meanest thing I've ever heard of was from Fred Phelps family that pickets the funerals of service men, thanking God for their deaths. You won't see an atheist doing that.

      May 23, 2011 at 1:54 pm |
  8. Adelina

    The new covenant says to evangelize all people and that's to multiply, not that. He should quote "Do not murder," as the human life starts at the moment of conception. Birth control that involves destruction of embryonic cell is murder.

    May 20, 2011 at 10:48 pm |
    • fimeilleur

      No Adelina, human life starts when it can survive outside of the womb... regardless what your preacher/deacon/priest tells you. Your criminal code defines murder, not you.

      May 21, 2011 at 3:01 pm |
    • Adelina

      @fimeilleur: Nazis never defined butchering Jews as a crime and neither Communists did on butchering believers in God. Definition of criminal code in a human society can be a real toxic trash. You were once a single cell. You wouldn't be posting this stupidity if your mother had asked doctors to squash you when you were not survivable outside of her womb. Be logical. Just put yourself in other people's shoes.

      May 22, 2011 at 10:26 am |
    • fimeilleur

      @ Adelina,

      "Nazis never defined butchering Jews as a crime and neither Communists did on butchering believers in God." Nazis skirted the question by defining Jews as sub human, therefore could not be murdered as defined by law. Stalin murdered people on the basis that they posed a threat to his complete control of the state, regardless of religious affiliation.

      "Be logical" I am, and that is why I reject all claims that there is a god, or gods. There isn't any proof that one exists, let alone yours. When your god provides the proof of his existence, we will consider his wishes in our laws.

      May 24, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
  9. Jane doe

    U, Sir Pacquiao, are an idiot.

    Just stick to boxing.
    The Philippines has had enough of undereducated Presidents. Don't perpetuate the country's dilemma.

    Resign.

    Another fan lost.

    May 20, 2011 at 10:41 pm |
    • MP

      You aren't that genius to realise that "undereducated" is two word and must be separated by a space and should be written as under educated. Furthermore, you should have done some more research about the Philippine Co-nst-it-ut-ion that you may learn technically nobody can be considered undereducated when it comes to running and holding public office and that's include of becoming a President beacuse it "doesn't require" any educational attainment.

      May 21, 2011 at 12:56 am |
    • JohnR

      Nice try, MP. 'Undereducated' is ONE word and there should be NO space. It's a PREFIX in this instance.

      May 21, 2011 at 11:08 am |
    • Jane doe

      MP u r a genius who can't spell realize correctly.

      May 21, 2011 at 11:30 pm |
    • JCR

      exactly! some like Pacquiao have been hit on his head many times and do not know what h311 he's talking about... hit senseless with gloves or bible-thumped from birth... same result...

      May 22, 2011 at 9:24 pm |
    • fimeilleur

      Undereducated, under educated, Realise or Realize... we're talking a difference between a US accepted spelling, and a UK accepted spelling, just like the colour (color) grey (gray)

      Before you accuse someone of spelling errors consider the fact that the world reads these posts, and not just US citizens. Now re-read the comment, and judge the validity of it.

      May 24, 2011 at 4:38 pm |
  10. Jake Rhines

    He's in the illuminati..He's trying to populate the Philippines to make a "MASON ARMY"

    May 20, 2011 at 10:26 pm |
    • Victoria

      Everyone would benefit from raednig this post

      April 1, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
  11. John Richardson

    Pacquiao just lost a fan.

    May 20, 2011 at 8:36 pm |
    • MP

      @John..Should it happen, it definitely make me sad but resassured that the decision is very well-respected.

      May 20, 2011 at 8:47 pm |
    • JohnR

      Pacquiao needs a proper comeuppance. We'll need to get him an MMA fight.

      May 21, 2011 at 11:09 am |
  12. myklds

    Life of both mother and her child whether unborn or not must be equally protected. Abortion-NO, Contraceptives- it depends.

    May 20, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
    • David Johnson

      @myklds

      You said: "Life of both mother and her child whether unborn or not must be equally protected. Abortion-NO, Contraceptives- it depends."

      The mother is alive. She has the rights. The fetus, until it is viable outside the womb, has no rights. It is a parasite, present in the womb by permission of the woman.

      Cheers!

      May 21, 2011 at 12:55 am |
    • myklds

      David..I'm just hoping someday you're heart will be open that somehow you may realise that a fetus has life, hence, has the right, at least to live.

      May 21, 2011 at 1:47 am |
    • Peace2All

      @mykids

      Hey -mykids...

      So, I'm sincerely curious. When you say "Abortion-NO" are you saying it as a 'universal' in that there are -0- circ-umstances that you would be o.k. with abortion...? In other words, 'abortion' is 'never' o.k.. or should be done...?

      Putting it another way. Is it your positi-tion that pregnant females should be 'forced' to carry all the way to birth...?

      Very curious...

      Respectfully,

      Peace...

      May 21, 2011 at 2:07 am |
    • Peace2All

      @mykids

      ***(Sorry)...I forgot to include in my last posting.... You Said: "Contraceptives-it depends"

      Also curious on your mind-set about 'contraceptives.' Seems as if you 'may' be o.k under some very, very tight guidelines, yes...?

      Love to hear about your opinion.

      Respectfully,

      Peace...

      May 21, 2011 at 2:11 am |
    • myklds

      @ peace...You asked and i quote, "So, I'm sincerely curious. When you say "Abortion-NO" are you saying it as a 'universal' in that there are -0- circ-umstances that you would be o.k. with abortion...? In other words, 'abortion' is 'never' o.k.. or should be done...?

      Putting it another way. Is it your positi-tion that pregnant females should be 'forced' to carry all the way to birth...?"
      -------------------------
      If I'll be the one to decide for all humanity, yes. However, honestly and practically, as citizens of our respective countries we're c-ons-t-itunally bound to adhere the law of the land. Hence, I would rather say that at least to countries (like the Philippines) outlawing abortion. Otherwise, legalizing it in such countries must be strongly opposed and deemed unacceptable.

      For your second question..

      Yes, except in life and death situation, then the mother or the father or any adult of close family members or relatives would be given the right to chose between the mother and her child. Otherwise, would also be deemed unacceptable.

      And to your last question and almost forgotten question;

      Some what tight will do. Provided, it will not take a form of life regardless it's inside or outside the womb. Moreover, it neither mandatory nor be shoved-down to the parent's troath by government agencies.

      I hope I answered your questions and had brought you peace.

      Now, if you won't mind, are making a survey?

      May 21, 2011 at 4:03 am |
    • David Johnson

      @myklds

      You said: "I'm just hoping someday you're heart will be open that somehow you may realise that a fetus has life, hence, has the right, at least to live."

      I think, we should put the responsibility on the mighty shoulders of god!

      Children are said to be a gift of god:

      Behold, children are a heritage from the LORD, the fruit of the womb a reward. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior are the children of one’s youth. Blessed is the man who fills his quiver with them! He shall not be put to shame when he speaks with his enemies in the gate. (Psalms 127:3-5 ESV)

      And when Esau lifted up his eyes and saw the women and children, he said, “Who are these with you?” Jacob said, “The children whom God has graciously given your servant.” (Genesis 33:5 ESV)

      He gives the barren woman a home, making her the joyous mother of children. Praise the LORD!
      (Psalms 113:9 Holy Bible ESV)

      I think it only right that god make sure that the person receiving this "gift", actually wants and is able to care for this precious gift. Who can know the answer to these questions better than an all knowing god?

      Would not an all knowing, all powerful, all good god, know that a crack addict is not capable of taking care of a baby?

      Would not an all knowing, all powerful, all good god, know that an impoverished mother could not provide for another life?

      Would not an all knowing, all powerful, all good god, know that a girl who is a baby herself, could not be mature enough to be a mother?

      I depend on god for most everything, mykids. I trust that if god didn't want us to abort unwanted fetuses, He would be more careful to whom He gave this gift to.

      God has a plan for each of us. The aborted just have a much shorter timeline.

      It's all good!

      Cheers!

      May 21, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
    • myklds

      @David...You said and I quote, "I depend on god for most everything, mykids. I trust that if god didn't want us to abort unwanted fetuses, He would be more careful to whom He gave this gift to.

      God has a plan for each of us. The aborted just have a much shorter timeline.

      It's all good!"

      I hate to say this but I have to be honest with you. It sounds to me like Hitler reincarnated. Pure Atheists using God to justify evil deeds.

      It's basically the same old tactics but (only) differs in time and application . Hitler used the name of God and Jesus to justify his slaughtering of billions of Jews. While you, you are using the God and mothers to justify infinite slaughter of innocent lives inside the mother's womb.

      Yes, you are right God is all knowing, all powerful, all good God, but He is also a just and fair, He neither understimate nor discriminate his people.

      And yes, you also right, child is a gift from God and not only that, He also gift us the gift to pro-create. And He can't just chose to whom he will give such gift, otherwise, would make him unfair and dicriminatory God.

      An addict, impoverish, and immature women still has capability to raise a child, only that, they should learn or make it the hard way.

      A fetus may not have as many rights as an independent human but definitely has one right. The right for everyone who has life, it's the right to live.

      May 22, 2011 at 9:35 am |
  13. PraiseTheLard

    Perhaps he can move here and run for the Tea party...

    May 20, 2011 at 6:08 pm |
  14. Realilty

    For Manny P. to peruse:

    o The numbers, the calculations and two "bottom liners":

    "Facts on Co-ntraceptive Use

    http://www.gu-ttmacher.org/pubs/fb_contr_use.html

    January 2008

    WHO NEEDS CONTRACEPTIVES?

    • 62 million U.S. women (and men?) are in their childbearing years (15–44).[1]
    • 43 million women (and men) of reproductive age, or 7 in 10, are se-xually active and do not want to become pregnant, but could become pregnant if they or their partners fail to use a contraceptive method.[2]
    • The typical U.S. woman (man?) wants only 2 children. To achieve this goal, she (he?) must use contraceptives for roughly 3 decades.[3]

    WHO USES CONTRACEPTIVES?
    • Virtually all women (98%) aged 15–44 who have ever had inte-rcourse have used at least one contraceptive method.[2](and men?)
    • Overall, 62% of the 62 million women aged 15–44 are currently using one.[2] (and men)
    • 31% of the 62 million women (and men?) do not need a method because they are infertile; are pregnant, postpartum or trying to become pregnant; have never had inter-course; or are not s-exually active.[2]
    • Thus, only 7% of women aged 15–44 are at risk of unwanted pregnancy but are not using contraceptives.[2] (and men?)
    • Among the 42 million fertile, s-exually active women who do not want to become pregnant, 89% are practicing contraception.[2] (and men?)

    WHICH METHODS DO WOMEN (men?) USE?
    • 64% of reproductive-age women who practice contraception use reversible methods, such as oral contraceptives or condoms. The remaining women rely on female or male sterilization.[2]

    FIRST-YEAR CONTRACEPTIVE FAILURE RATES
    Percentage of women (men?) experiencing an unplanned pregnancy (a few examples)
    Method>>>>>>>> Typical
    Pill (combined)>>>> 8.7
    Tubal sterilization 0.7
    Male condom >>> 17.4
    Vas-ectomy 0.2
    Periodic abstinence 25.3
    Calendar 9.0
    Ovulation Method 3.0
    Sympto-thermal 2.0
    Post-ovulation 1.0
    No method 85.0"
    (Abstinence) 0
    (Mas-turbation) 0

    More facts about co-ntraceptives from
    guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_contr_use.html

    "CON-TRACEPTIVE METHOD CHOICE
    Con-traceptive method use among U.S. women who practice con-traception, 2002
    Method No. of users (in 000s) % of users

    Pill 11,661 30.6
    Male condom 6,841 18.0 "

    i.e.
    The pill fails to protect women 8.7% during the first year of use (from the same reference previously shown).
    i.e.
    0.087 (failure rate)
    x 62 million (# child bearing women)
    x 0.62 ( % of these women using contraception )
    x 0.306 ( % of these using the pill) =
    1,020,000 unplanned pregnancies during the first year of pill use.

    For male condoms (failure rate of 17.4 and 18% use level):

    1,200,000 unplanned pregnancies during the first year of male condom use.

    The Guttmacher Insti-tute (same reference) notes also that the perfect use of the pill should result in a 0.3% failure rate
    (35,000 unplanned pregnancies) and for the male condom, a 2% failure rate (138,000 unplanned pregnancies).

    o Bottom Line #1: The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill and male condom have led to the large rate of abortions ( one million/yr) and S-TDs (19 million/yr) in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the pill or condoms properly and/or use other safer methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.

    Bottom line #2-
    Currently, a perfect birth control barrier system does not exist. Time to develop one! In the meantime, mono-ma-sturbation or mutual ma-sturbation are highly recommended for hete-rose-xuals who need a contraceptive. Abstinence is another best-solution but obviously the se-x drive typically vitiates this option although being biological would it not be able to develop a drug to temporarily eliminate said drive?

    May 20, 2011 at 6:05 pm |
  15. Peace2All

    Time for @Catholic Mom to put her 2 cents in here. Pure Catholicism at it's finest regarding contraception issues, etc...

    Peace...

    May 20, 2011 at 6:00 pm |
  16. frank

    There are famous idiots and not-famous idiots.
    He's the first kind.

    May 20, 2011 at 5:48 pm |
    • KranK

      And certainly, you are the first of the former, right Frank?

      May 21, 2011 at 12:16 am |
    • Jane doe

      Frank, i agree completely.

      May 21, 2011 at 11:35 pm |
  17. The Amazing Insights of Barry Brainiac, Christian

    Scripture addresses this issue most beautifully.

    "Yea, though thou pummeleth thy opponents' faces into a disgusting goo in my great and holy goodness, thou shalt also pummel non-believers with laws preventing them from reasonable choices, and instead create a further overpopulated Philippines where my holy diseases like syphillus and AIDS may duly prosper as I desire in my holy divine way."

    May 20, 2011 at 5:18 pm |
    • JohnR

      Rejoice!!!

      May 21, 2011 at 3:44 pm |
  18. David Johnson

    From the article:
    “God said, ‘Go forth and multiply.'

    But, god does not exist.

    Cheers!

    May 20, 2011 at 4:53 pm |
    • myklds

      David.. you said and I quote, "But, god does not exist."

      That premise represents the minority only, it's either immaterial or has no value when it comes to considerable issues like birth control.

      I doubt if there's a single atheist ever existed in such religious country like Phillipines.

      May 20, 2011 at 8:38 pm |
    • Carpenter in a Land with no Wood

      You are correct, myklds, there is in fact not a single atheist in the Philippines. There is about a million of them.

      May 20, 2011 at 9:09 pm |
    • ice cream sales man in the north pole

      @Carpenter

      How much you know about the Philippines?

      Though bagobo natives act, behave and look like atheists but they are not. Most of them are pagans believing in Anitos.

      May 21, 2011 at 12:14 am |
    • myklds

      @Carpenter...Yes, It would be easy for you to claim millions or any figures you'd want to. However, the fact is you couldn't name at least one Filipino/Filipina who proclaims him/herself an Atheist.

      May 21, 2011 at 1:58 am |
    • Carpenter in a Land with no Wood

      myklds, here are a few of the people that I in fact cannot name:

      Ramon "Poch" Suzara, Joebert Cuevas, Aleksi Gumela, and Jose Juan "John" Paraiso. Go ahead and google them if you doubt me. Check out the non-existent Filipino Freethinkers or Radioactive Atheist groups while you are at it.

      Here is an atheism website from one of your non-existent Philippino Atheists – there are others as well:

      http://atheistangpinoy.blogspot.com/

      I know, you are religious, so facts and reality have no impact on your delusions, but you are flat out wrong.

      May 21, 2011 at 2:11 am |
    • myklds

      @Carpenter..To be honest it's only the first time that i hear it. I'll find sometime to google it or visit the website attached. And I'll get back to you, promise!

      For the meantime, thanks for the inputs.

      May 21, 2011 at 4:10 am |
    • carpainter in the colorless world.

      @carpenter, you said: "I know, you are religious, so facts and reality have no impact on your delusions, but you are flat out wrong."

      Too bad for Atheist for Atheist like you. You think that all people are as arrogant and slimeballs as you are.

      May 21, 2011 at 4:23 am |
    • Carpenter in a Land with no Wood

      Nice use of the English language, carpainter.

      May 21, 2011 at 9:43 am |
    • Tonia

      The Thirteenth Angel Gala is always a wrefnodul experience. To be in the prescence of old friends and relatives who are all there for the same reason, is really a heart warming experience. The evening is enjoyable in many ways; you have good food, music, presentations, auctions, raffle prizes and more! It is definitely an entertaining evening for a wrefnodul cause.One thing for certain is that when you are there, you know that there is a prescence of something beautiful, a shared love for our friend Angela and a shared goal of helping children and keeping Angela's legacy alive. Angela touches the hearts of her family and friends to this day, and now everyone has the opportunity to share that feeling. The annual gala is a great way to share good times for a great cause.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:37 am |
  19. Finger Puppet

    Of course they're doing this. This is the same place where they were nailing themselves to crosses a few weeks ago.

    May 20, 2011 at 4:41 pm |
  20. Stevie7

    Sounds like someone's taken one too many punches to the head

    May 20, 2011 at 4:27 pm |
    • Stevo49

      You don't want to take even one punch to the head from that someone, I bet.

      May 20, 2011 at 7:12 pm |
    • David Johnson

      @Stevie7

      Do you think the ability to give and take punches to the head, qualifies you to decide on matters such as abortion and birth control?

      Curious in Arizona

      May 20, 2011 at 7:20 pm |
    • Stevie7

      The ability to give and receive punches qualifies one for nothing other than to give an receive punches, or train others to do the same. And naturally, I'd be willing to do a LOT before taking a punch from pacqiuao.

      I do, however, find the purposeful restriction of information to the public by a government not pertaining to national security to be disgusting and immoral. Give people the option to decide what is right for themselves.

      May 20, 2011 at 8:05 pm |
    • Jane doe

      Stevie7,

      LOL, u said it!

      May 21, 2011 at 11:45 pm |
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