Doomsdays throughout time
May 22nd, 2011
03:07 PM ET

Life goes on: Doomsday believers on the morning after

By Jessica Ravitz, CNN

(CNN) – Theirs had been an unwavering belief, the sort that inspired some to quit jobs, leave their homes and walk away from family and friends to issue a doomsday warning.

Without question, they believed May 21 would be the day that Jesus Christ would return and rapture them - and a select 2 to 3 percent of the world’s population - up to heaven.  Everyone left behind would be on a crash course to final destruction, scheduled for October 21.

But now it’s May 22.

The sun rose, birds are singing and life as we know it continues. Those anticipated earthquakes that the May 21 doomsdayers said would ravage the earth on Saturday at 6 p.m. in each of the world's time zones never came.

And the faithful believers - who said the Bible guaranteed this day - are still here, trying to make sense of it all.

“Of course there’s disappointment. There’s no getting around that,” said Tom Evans, who’d left his northern California home to spend the weekend with family and friends. “When you as a person believe that God is coming back, and you believe the evidence is very clear that he’s coming back, that is something every child of God longs for. In a moment, we’d be changed and spend eternity with God. I’m not ashamed of that at all. I’m not ashamed of wanting and hoping for it.”

But Evans did reveal some regret.

“For us to say it was absolute, I think that’s where we went wrong. That’s where we strayed, and that I would gladly apologize for,” he said. “Whether I personally have done something dishonorable, I’m still mulling it over. I was trying to be faithful.”

Evans spoke to CNN as an individual, not as a spokesperson for Family Radio, the Oakland, California, Christian broadcasting network behind the May 21 movement. 

But Evans has been a paid spokesman for the network, a job he said he expects to resume - at least in the short term - after he and Family Radio's board of directors meet with Harold Camping, the network's 89-year-old founder.

“I have not spoken to Mr. Camping about the issue of what to do next,” Evans said. “But he and his wife are fine, and our response will come in the early part of next week.”

Camping, a degreed engineer (not a pastor) who claims to have made the Bible his “university” for more than 50 years, has experience with failed prophecies. He once claimed the world would end in September 1994, later chalking that snafu up to biblical miscalculations and the need for further study. This time around, he said earlier this year, he had no doubts.

Calls to Camping's Alameda, California, home, went unanswered.

CNN reached out Sunday morning to about a dozen doomsday believers, to see how they felt after waking up. Only Evans and one other responded.

"I'm fine Jessica, really!" Darryl Keitt, of Elizabeth, New Jersey, who spent about seven months touring the country in a caravan of RVs, sharing the doomsday warning, wrote in a text message. "Just need 2 process this."

Those who’ve studied end-of-the-world movements are analyzing what happened, or didn’t happen, and forecasting what will come next.

“In the end, it was a whimper, not a bang,” said Lorenzo DiTommaso, author of the forthcoming book “The Architecture of Apocalypticism” and an associate professor of religion at Concordia University in Montréal, Canada. “The 21st of May came and went, and with it Harold Camping’s prediction of the coming of the Rapture and the day of doom.”

Based on past doomed doomsdays, much can be learned, said DiTommaso, who has studied apocalyptic worldviews for 12 years.

He shared what he meant in a written statement to CNN:

Historically, failed prophecies tend to result in disillusionment, with members deserting the group, or, more typically, a faith-saving (and face-saving) statement to the effect that while divine revelation remains infallible, human calculation is not. In short: The math was off, and it’s back to the drawing board. If the logic seems a bit self-serving, recall that in the apocalyptic mindset, faith precedes theory, and theory informs the evidence.

Not that any of this will preclude the appearance of future doomsday predictions. “Apocalypse,” Frank Kermode once observed, “can be disconfirmed without being discredited.” The massive 2012 phenomenon [based on the Mayan “Long Count” calendar] lurks just over the horizon. Even if the media and the public are over-saturated right now, the 2012 event promises to be as big as Y2K. After that, when the predicted events of the 21st of December 2012 fail to occur, a new generation of end-time prophecies will spring up. And that’s about the only sure prediction that one can make.

- CNN Writer/Producer

Filed under: Bible • Christianity • Culture wars • End times

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  1. Punchmaster

    This reads like a headline from The Onion. I swear, it never ceases to amaze me how this country can be so technologically advanced and yet somehow still be stuck in the Middle Ages philosophically......Just goes to show you how powerful the fear of death really is.

    May 23, 2011 at 11:24 am |
  2. Darryl

    This whole story sounds like it's straight out of The Onion.

    Hard to believe some people can be so deluded. It's also difficult to believe how much the media pays attention to them.

    May 23, 2011 at 11:23 am |
  3. Zaphod2000

    LOL or there are a lot of us left behind

    May 23, 2011 at 11:23 am |
  4. Chaz

    Is this really being used to attack Christianity? Very, very few Christians thought May 21 would be the rapture. The rapture will come when God decides. True Christians are ready for the rapture, whenever it will come, by trusting in Jesus as their Lord and Saviour.

    May 23, 2011 at 11:22 am |
    • Geezer

      You are all nuts. Whether anyone thinks the rapture comes on May 21 or any other day; it's all non sense. No you people belief all in the same garbage.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:24 am |
    • Ben8

      Not to attack. Just to make fun of, we regular people leave the attacking to the self-righteous believers.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:26 am |
    • xfedagent

      Amen! Perfect response!

      May 23, 2011 at 11:28 am |
    • amos

      Regardless of the name of the religion, they can all be easily attacked for many reasons and faults.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:33 am |
    • Me

      Religion is a powerful, and obviously very soothing drug. In the U.S. it is a drug that we are all allowed to choose to use, or not. If it brings you peace, and you do not try to push it on others (a sure sign that you are a doubter) then it is harmless.

      May 23, 2011 at 12:15 pm |
  5. Jon

    Well – that was fun! What's next?

    May 23, 2011 at 11:21 am |
  6. Larry

    When any real-life occurrence of a fictional story needs to be seen by everyone, the fairy tale (the bible) is always shown to be a fraud. That people can still believe in these fairy tales is beyond my comprehension. Science is a set of rules and postulates that are based in fact; religion is manipulated and interpretted to try and convince people it is a fact.

    May 23, 2011 at 11:21 am |
  7. Tim

    As Bill Engvall would say, "here's your sign"....

    May 23, 2011 at 11:19 am |
  8. BJNJ

    This camping person is a nut job. It's unfortunate that many innocent people lost their hard earned money on the ravings of a lunatic. Maybe he looked up and "howled" at the moon bellowing his May 21st stupid talk. BJNJ

    May 23, 2011 at 11:17 am |
    • MsB

      I don't know about calling him a "nut", but he is a very rich "nut" thanks to all his followers!

      May 23, 2011 at 11:27 am |
    • JD

      Innocent people?? Sure, Camping is a nut, but I do not think his followers should be considered victims. Each should be held accountable for not using sound logic and choosing to follow his lead.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:31 am |
  9. tnw

    All these sheep gave away their money to this crook for eternal salvation. IDIOTS!!! Religion is the biggest fraud in the history of humanity. I guess at the very least, it lets people dress up in silly costumes when it's not Halloween and act superior to everyone around them. What a joke. These people got what they deserved. Tax these Religions and you solve our Countries financial problems.

    May 23, 2011 at 11:17 am |
    • Really?

      tnw, the Bible describes the true religion, that the people would have love among them, Jesus did not tach to be high and might and if you think that is the relegion God approves, then you are wrong.
      Jesus said, you receive free, you give free, which religion does that?
      Jesus said to be a part of his kingdom you cannot be a part of this world.
      I know of only one religion that follows the Bible.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:24 am |
    • truth

      One thing that God knew about us is our inherently evil and wicked nature. It seems as if mankind is getting worse not better. We've made some technological advances but people as a whole have not improved. Do you see any improvement?
      I can say one thing to all unbelievers of the Bible is that it is the only book ever written that has prophecy that has actually been fulfilled 100% of the time. This is all the proof anyone would need...anyone out there who hasn't read it wouldn't understand what I'm talking about here..you don't believe because you don't WANT to believe, but there IS proof.. quite a bit of it! There are over 300 prophecies about the messiah(Christ) written hundreds of years before He was born and walked the earth. And guess what? ALL of them were fulfilled. The chance that happening by coincidence would be equal to 1 out of a number that would reach around the country. I used to be an atheist myself until I did a little digging and found out what a lot of people who went looking found out: Christ was exactly who He said He was: God Himself and the Savior of all mankind. If you don't believe then you've got nothing to lose by looking into the proof of what you don't believe in...many people have and became on fire for Christ as a result. How about you? What do you have to lose except eternal damnation?

      May 23, 2011 at 4:06 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      @truth: Sorry, but I 'm fairly certain that you were never an atheist.

      May 23, 2011 at 4:10 pm |
    • Over It

      "There are over 300 prophecies about the messiah(Christ) written hundreds of years before He was born and walked the earth. And guess what? ALL of them were fulfilled."

      Guess what? Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and Paul (and whoever wrote under those names) READ the OT (so did Jesus). They tailored their stories to fit the image.

      If you really care, you will research failed prophecies of the Bible.

      May 23, 2011 at 4:17 pm |
  10. timmyt30

    http://scotthoughts1.blogspot.com/2011/05/benefits-of-false-rapture.html I think some good may come of this

    May 23, 2011 at 11:15 am |
  11. Reality

    "For us to say it was absolute, I think that’s where we went wrong." as per Tom Evans

    What Mr. Evans failed to mention:

    As with Camping, Jesus was also a bit "touched". After all he thought he spoke to Satan, thought he changed water into wine, thought he raised Lazarus from the dead etc. In today's world, said Jesus would be declared legally insane.

    Or did P, M, M, L and J simply make him into a first century magic-man via their epistles and gospels of semi-fiction? Most contemporary NT experts after thorough analyses of all the scriptures go with the latter magic-man conclusion with J's gospels being mostly fiction.

    Obviously, today's followers of Paul et al's "magic-man" are also a bit on the odd side believing in all the Christian mumbo jumbo about rapture and bodies resurrecting, and exorcisms, and miracles, and "magic-man atonement, and infallible, old, European, white men, and 24/7 body/blood sacrifices followed by consumption of said sacrifices..............................

    May 23, 2011 at 11:15 am |
    • Ben8

      Jesus did not think he did any of this. The people who later wrote about him did. You're a bit "touched" to speak without properly knowing when the bible came out and claimed these things about some dead guy.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:21 am |
    • Brenda

      Really? you know that Jesus was "touched". Amazing were you there? Without a shade of a doubt you know that these things did not happen? Unless you or these people were there & lived those moments you can't say either way. I live by faith there maybe things I can't explain in the physical but I have seen miracles happen and do not doubt things could have happened.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:27 am |
    • AllahKingKong

      Yup that pretty much sums it up, zombies and flesh/blood eating sacrafices. Sounds like a great organization to give my money away to. People that are extremist in any religion should just be declared insane and collect SS Disabilty, I guess i'll just have to wait until the next end of the world damn i was kind of ready.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:32 am |
    • truth

      my friend,
      you may want to look at a few facts: youre right about one thing, Jesus would either have been a liar or a lunatic or exactly who He said He was...Liars and lunatics do not endure the test of time and yet Jesus has...After a little looking around people like yourself who didnt think Jesus even existed came to find out that there is more evidence that Jesus Christ not only exisited, but was exactly who He said He was and this information is outside of scripture. You think someone like Jesus could escape the notice of notable historians of the day? He couldnt. Those folks who followed this doomsday prophesy were led astray by a false prophet...they never bothered to read scripture that states that nobody, not even Jesus Himself knows when that day will be..only The Father knows...but whether you believe or not has no impact on Jesus's existence and place at God's right hand, you will see Him when you die, and I pray that you have accepted Him as your Lord and savior before that happens...if not you will be send to Hell for all eternity. Not because Jesus hates you it will be because there will simply be nowhere else for you to go..you see, although God loves you, He cannot allow sin(yours) into heaven. And by the way, heres a secret: we are ALL sinners, myself included. The only reason why I will go to heaven and you most likely will go to hell is because my sins have been forgiven by Christ Jesus. But youve probably heard this before..and The Lord will show it to you when you see Him, if you die unsaved(without accepting Him), just before you are send to the lake of fire...Think about it...

      May 23, 2011 at 11:58 am |
    • richunix

      @Truth, your soul argument is based on: argumentum ad populum (appeal to the majority). Please look for Elvis in another location.

      “I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”

      Atheism is not a religion nor is it a belief.

      May 23, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
    • Reality

      A 2011 update on Jesus of Nazareth based on the conclusions of many contemporary (and not so contemporary) NT scholars.

      Jesus was an illiterate (some say he was crazy), Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus).

      An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

      The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.

      For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

      Current RCC problems:

      Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

      Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

      Current problems:

      Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

      May 23, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
    • Over It

      "Jesus would either have been a liar or a lunatic or exactly who He said He was.

      These are not the only possibilities. Jesus could simply have been mistaken... or those who wrote about him were mistaken (or liars or lunatics).


      "... there is more evidence that Jesus Christ not only exisited, but was exactly who He said He was and this information is outside of scripture."

      There are no first-hand descriptions of Jesus by historians of the time. The hearsay reports of a couple of them have not been totally authenticated.

      May 23, 2011 at 4:27 pm |
    • truth

      About those 300 prophecies...It would not have been possible to re-enact most of them..such as the lineage of Jesus and the line of the tribe of Judah that he came from or the lineage from King David..That was specific to the person of Jesus Christ..then of course the way that Christ died..by cruxificition..a method of torture that hadnt even been invented yet laid out in detail hundreds of years before it happened...unless you think that the ordinary men who had God's hand to write the bible could influence the roman government and ways of torture...then of course there's the resurrection..it seems to me that if anyone claimed that they died and came to life three days later,as prophesised, it would be the easiest thing to prove that they didnt. Nobody in the history of mankind dhas claimed to do something like this that didnt eventually fall apart under scrutiny..yet Christ remains, doesnt he? Most people writing these posts have never read the bible, yet insist on it not being true. My message to those is simple: read it first..66 books written by 40 authors(many of whom never met each other)over a period of 1200 years on 3 continents and yet it flows like one book..Got an answer for that? As for the so called contemporary christian thinkers..Jesus said there would be people such as this that would rise only to make names for themselves. Failed biblical prohecies? Please, list them for me. Ill be waiting for that list....

      May 25, 2011 at 1:30 am |
  12. Maria

    People like this are what make the mayan, and sumerian believers seem crazy nothing these ppl believed was based on fact, history or anything else

    May 23, 2011 at 11:14 am |
  13. Another John

    Let us not forget that these people actually vote, that is as long as they're not scurrying to a cave as they flee the rapture...Morons. These are the same class of people once known as the "Village Idiot", every community had at least one. This is proof that the number of Village Idiots are increasing, just look at the two Houses of Congress in DC.

    May 23, 2011 at 11:13 am |
  14. Ben8

    Why would God be real at this point...honestly. For the last, oh let's say, 3,000 years monotheistic religions have divided people and caused tension unlike any sports team could ever do. People wear their jerseys and yell, kill, and damn one another without taking the time to ponder as to why people on the other side of the world believe in a different god. Can we please move on and admit that deep down we all know there is no God, no heaven or Jesus. We are the only force we can rely on to raise humanity above our primitive ways of dividing ourselves. No apocalyptic deity is going to come down and tell us that we have been so good that we will come with him or her to nirvana. Oh and my last point... don't be a good person out of a hope for some reward, do it because you know it's the right thing to do

    May 23, 2011 at 11:11 am |
    • John

      God has nothing to do with religion.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:19 am |
    • huh?

      good luck with your nonsense. Human beings are incapable of loving. The only guidance we have is through the Divine, the God of Bible. That's the only way we know right from wrong.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:20 am |
    • Ben8

      Yea nothing to do with religion, they just revolve around them.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:22 am |
    • smrtaz

      Because there would be no division if not for religion?

      We do not divide ourselves based on the color of our skins?
      We do not divide ourselves by our political beliefs?
      How about based on our financial status or overall popularity?

      Don't blame religion for human nature. People try to make it sound like the world would be one big happy family if not for religion, but that is simply untrue. I've seen people inside the same religion divide themselves, just as I've seen people divide themselves outside of religion.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:24 am |
    • Ben8

      Religion has everything to do with the self-justification of human nature.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:28 am |
    • hitu

      I wish every person on this earth thought that way. It is absolutely baffling that an intelligent species like the humans staunchly believe in God, and the disgusting part is that every group has one of its own, and is ready to kill the followers of the other Gods. Shameful. Barring a few great thinkers/philosophers/astronomers who have walked the earth, 99.9999....% of the human race is no better than any other animal species.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:33 am |
  15. Mott the Hoople

    "Live each day as if it is your last. One day, you will be right." - Breaker Morant

    May 23, 2011 at 11:11 am |
    • richunix

      Great story, sad ending to both of them.....

      May 23, 2011 at 11:19 am |
    • Ambrogino

      How about "Shoo fly, don't bother me!"

      May 23, 2011 at 11:23 am |
  16. Geoz

    Where is Camping the coward?

    May 23, 2011 at 11:10 am |
  17. richunix

    Two thousand years ago. Multiple Religions were the cultural norm. The belief in multiple GODs was widely acceptable and only varied by type (and special abilities) depending the region you were from. None of the stories were ever PROVEN (BAR NONE) and always written well after the events. The only thing that changed was the names used. From Sumerian times the God “An” to the current Christian name “YAWEH”. Really the only thing that changed was the “story teller”. To improve his or her deity, the writer creates wondrous feats of magic that go beyond basic physical laws. You will find the very same Creation (according to the Sumerian) stories written thousand years earlier, only the name has changed to meet the current God. Of course when questioned the standard answer has been “God says so” . But yet they question believer’s of other religious sects like the Jehovah Witness and Morons as “whack –jobs” , but fail to see they are no different. The major difference is modern man has proven through scientific exam the laws of nature and how man really works and YES we evolved from lower forms of life and YES Apes are our distance cousin (deal with it).

    I’m not interested in changing anyone beliefs, that is for you to decide. If believing in whatever you wish to believe make you feel better about yourself, please continue. But stop with trying to make the stories sound if they are true. No ONE (BAR NONE) has ever seen any God (outside of the occasional burring bush and always alone), parted the Red Sea or the Jewish Sea of Reeds or even a damn pond or turned to stone, pillar of salt or into your favorite color. If you tried (and a few have) to use any of the stories mention in the bible as a test of scientific theory or used in court for defense the angel Satan made me do it, or God said so, who are you to say “He’s lying”

    I’m very happy with my life and YES I know I’m going to die as it is very much a part of life. I’m not so vain or fearful about what will happen that I need stories to comfort my fears. I know I will live forever, I can see it everyday with the next generation and I sigh with relief, that they will make the world a better place. Enjoy your life, do what you can to make it better, don’t live in fear of unknown.

    “I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”

    Atheism is not a religion nor is it a belief.

    May 23, 2011 at 11:10 am |
    • Geoz

      Nice quote.. who said that?

      May 23, 2011 at 11:12 am |
    • richunix

      @Geoz: Stephen F. Roberts'

      May 23, 2011 at 11:14 am |
    • Pretty_Happy

      well said.
      Life is plenty good enough. No need for mythology to make a better experience or answer questions of science.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:28 am |
    • Anotheralt

      "Atheism is not a religion nor is it a belief."

      I guess it depends on how you define atheism. If you're rejecting the possibility of God simply because there isn't sufficient proof of such a being's existence, then you're choosing to believe something. The usual atheist ramblings I read tend to be from people who get ticked off because religious folk inappropriately use rational lines of inquiry for a subject that isn't rationally knowable. Then the atheist goes on to inexpertly use rational lines of inquiry to claim there can't be a God? I call foul on that.

      Science and religion can co-exist just fine because they seek Truth using different means. If you one party wants to devalue the tenants of the other, but it's just a matter of opinion. God cannot be truly known, proven, or disproven.

      May 23, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
    • richunix

      @Anotheralt. Sorry no they can not. One is proiven fact and the other (religion) is fantsey,

      May 23, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
    • LinCA

      @Anotheralt. Atheism is only a religion if not collecting stamps is a hobby, or not going to the mall is shopping, or not drinking is alcoholism.

      Without supporting evidence, not believing something is true is the default position. Without evidence there is no reason to believe any god exists. There may very well be one or more gods, but without evidence it is foolish to believe they exist.

      On the other hand, there is evidence that the god as described by christians can't exist.

      May 23, 2011 at 1:29 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      @Anotheralt: If god cannot be proven, then the only logical conclusion to draw is that, for all practical purposes, he/she/it doesn't exist.

      May 23, 2011 at 4:18 pm |
    • Anotheralt

      The only logical conclusion given a lack of supporting evidence is that something must not exist? That's ridiculous...and hardly scientific. For all practical purposes? That's a bit of sticky point you have there. Religion's intersection with practical purposes takes a bit of finesse.

      Science always operates under the assumption, "I might be wrong about this." That's how innovation happens. You're caught in a particular paradigm where logic somehow is the end all/ be all of possible paths to Truth. That's incredibly unimaginative. I repeat: Science and religion are on two different paths. Attempts to compare one against the other based on the ways they build knowledge is fruitless.

      Without sufficient evidence to the contrary, there is no reason to believe that doesn't exist either. You cannot possibly prove or disprove something that defies definition. You have no parameters to work with. You lose.

      Religion isn't about proof. It's about choosing to believe something in the absence of knowing. It's called faith. Choosing to believe that something cannot exist just because it hasn't been proven is likewise faith.

      May 23, 2011 at 7:04 pm |
    • LinCA

      Anotheralt says: "Science always operates under the assumption, "I might be wrong about this.""

      You are correct. Therefor, when the theists state "there is a god", they have to assume they are incorrect until they provide some evidence to support the hypothesis. The burden of proof is squarely on those claiming the existence of a god.

      Simply asserting something exists without providing any supporting evidence, and requiring others to prove you wrong is not in any way scientific. It is simplistic and childish.

      I know, as do most atheists, that the absence of proof doesn't prove absence. It is impossible to prove that there is no god. That is irrelevant as there is no need to prove the absence of any mythical being. The absence of evidence supporting the existence of gods shows, beyond a reasonable doubt that, even if there were a god, he/she/it is insignificant. No verifiable effect has ever been recorded to show that any god has ever interacted with the world. That in effect establishes that, for all intents and purposes, there is no god.

      May 23, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
    • Anotheralt

      "That is irrelevant as there is no need to prove the absence of any mythical being. The absence of evidence supporting the existence of gods shows, beyond a reasonable doubt that, even if there were a god, he/she/it is insignificant. No verifiable effect has ever been recorded to show that any god has ever interacted with the world. That in effect establishes that, for all intents and purposes, there is no god."

      First, you're assuming it's a mythical being. You're putting the cart before the horse there. The absence of evidence shows nothing other than we have no data from which to draw a reasonable conclusion. Since belief in God has little to do with reason, I'm not sure what your point is. The most you can say is that the evidence doesn't currently support existence of God. This is not the same logical statement as saying that God does not, in effect, exist. One assumes that bacteria existed and had an effect on us, even a demonstrable effect, before we had the ability to reason out the evidence.

      Science isn't in the business of caring much, one way or the other, about matters of faith. I'm not sure why people keep trying invoke its name with regard to God.

      May 23, 2011 at 8:00 pm |
  18. trigtardtwit

    ...slurp, ppffffftt, drool...

    May 23, 2011 at 11:10 am |
  19. Chase

    The Bible says "no man knows the day or hour" and I cannot find where the Bible says only 2 or 3 % is going to heaven. These people. As my grandmother would say,... "Bless their hearts".

    May 23, 2011 at 11:08 am |
    • BCReturns

      The fundamentalist need to take a step back and realize the impact of their end of the world predictions have on non-christians (even though the bible clearly states that no one knows the date/time), its too bad. Hopefully most non-believers don't associate these fundamentalist with the majority of christians (the same applies to Catholic priest). Also, where does the 2-3% come from. Even if these fundamentalist were right about how few will be going to heaven (which they aren't), at very, very, very least, the % going to heaven would be 20% minimum (since children up to the age of reconning go straight to heaven). Then if the fundamentalist add 2-3% just for them, we're at 22-23% (which is still crazy talk). Fundamentalist of any religion are bad and destructive either physically, mentally or spiritually.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:24 am |
    • Mary

      Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:3, 36)
      How many go to heaven? As in any government, the rulers in God’s heavenly Kingdom are few in comparison with all the people who live under its authority. To those who will rule with him, Jesus said: “Have no fear, little flock, because your Father has approved of giving you the kingdom.” (Luke 12:32) That “little flock” will finally number 144,000. (Revelation 14:1) That number is small in comparison with the millions who will enjoy endless life on earth as loyal subjects of the Kingdom.—Revelation 21:4.

      May 23, 2011 at 11:56 am |
  20. Josh

    See why education is important and the bible should be taken out of school. Too much praying not enough working. Read the bible once in awhile. Specifically Matthew Chapter 24. Start drinking your Kool-Aid you followers and believers.

    May 23, 2011 at 11:07 am |
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