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Bernice King, MLK's daughter, leaves Eddie Long's church
The Rev. Bernice King shares the pulpit with Bishop Eddie Long at New Birth Missionary Church in this file photo.
May 31st, 2011
06:30 PM ET

Bernice King, MLK's daughter, leaves Eddie Long's church

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) - The Rev. Bernice King, daughter of the legendary civil rights leader, is leaving an Atlanta megachurch that’s been rocked by a sex scandal involving its preacher.

King’s announcement came a week after Bishop Eddie Long, senior pastor of New Birth Missionary Church, settled out of court with four young men who filed lawsuits against him last year claiming he coerced them into sexual relationships.

King said her announcement had nothing to do with Long’s legal battles. She said Tuesday she was “tremendously blessed” by Long’s ministry but that now she’s going start her own.

“I’m going to launch a ministry. I’m not calling it a church right now,” King said during an interview with Atlanta radio station Praise 102.5. “What God is showing me doesn’t look like what people are accustomed to.”

King said her ministry would “educate, empower and equip” a new generation of church leaders, and she promised more details in the future. King had been an elder at New Birth for eight years.

During her interview, she said it was incorrect to say that she had “resigned” from New Birth because she was never on the church’s staff.

“I occasionally worked in the pulpit and preached, but that was the extent of it,” she said. "When I came to New Birth, I came for a season.”

King’s stay at New Birth was punctuated by controversy.

In 2004, she and Long led a march to the Atlanta tomb of her father, the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., calling for a constitutional ban on gay marriage.

The march was publicly condemned by some members of her father's inner circle. One of her father's closest advisers was gay, and his widow, Coretta Scott King, was a vocal supporter of gay rights.

Bernice King also was criticized for holding the 2006 funeral of her mother at New Birth instead of at Ebenezer Baptist Church, the Atlanta institution once led by her father. Critics said Long’s embrace of the prosperity gospel contradicted the emphasis on social justice that her father preached.

The Rev. Raphael Warnock, senior pastor of Ebenezer, said Bernice King ultimately will be known for more than her association with Long.

“This might be for her a moment of spiritual renewal and serious reflection about what her next steps might be,” Warnock said. “Rev. King has been through a season of transition in many ways.”

The Rev. Gerald L. Durley, senior pastor of Providence Missionary Baptist Church in Atlanta, said King won’t be tainted by her association with Long.

“New Birth was a bridge,” he said. “I’ve never seen anybody build a house on a bridge. A bridge takes her to another destination.”

During her radio interview, King said she had recently talked with Long about leaving his church.

“He gave me his blessings and supported me,” she said.

Whatever she chooses to do next, Durley said, King will bring many strengths: intelligence, humility and empathy forged by her own unique upbringing.

“She had to go through so much suffering at a young age,” Durley said. “She’s been in the spotlight. She’s expected not just to be Martin Luther King, but to pick up the mantle.”

- CNN Writer

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soundoff (276 Responses)
  1. The Dimension Machine

    All sins to be seen and the truth come out….Hypocrisy is poison...when the kids see adults say 1 thing and do another…guess what happen? All the human spiritual structure is in the sensational book at www TheDimensionMachine DOT com

    June 1, 2011 at 9:02 am |
    • maggie

      Children, they often do not do what you tell them to do, but they aften do what they see do.

      June 1, 2011 at 9:10 am |
  2. Adelina

    Present secular Americans are not true descendant of former Americans who cultivated and formed USA. They are incapable of understanding their fathers and mothers even in 60's. The land should go to some other people.

    June 1, 2011 at 8:58 am |
    • JohnR

      Are you making terroristic threats here, Adelina?

      June 1, 2011 at 10:37 am |
    • Adelina

      No, the opposite. The American young generations should retrieve their traditions more accurately.

      June 2, 2011 at 3:50 am |
  3. Kenrick Benjamin

    Hello The Bobinator God does forgive everyone if the repent of their sin, however everyone has to deal with the consequences of there actions.

    June 1, 2011 at 8:50 am |
  4. Adelina

    I think American comedy shows made secular Americans stupid. What are they doing by not-reading Rev. King's biography? Or... are they reading any? How can any American belittle Christianity? Are they stupid or what?

    June 1, 2011 at 8:49 am |
  5. Not having it

    It amazes me how the wonderful and truly loving Dr. King could have such a mean-spirited and bigoted daughter as this joker. Go ahead and start your own "ministry" and line your pockets with the gold you collect Bernice - you are as much of a charlatan and a con-artist as Mr. Long. I am sure your parents look down on you from heaven with shame.

    June 1, 2011 at 8:47 am |
    • spm

      Well said!!

      June 1, 2011 at 9:10 am |
  6. Adelina

    Americans should read MLK's biography and his writings. Seriously. Every single one of them should in order to blow away their persisting ignorance.

    June 1, 2011 at 8:46 am |
  7. TheQuietMan

    I haven't read the Sunday funnies in YEARS, but I JUST discovered why.

    I'm already getting my weekly belly laughs from the Belief section at CNN. :^)

    June 1, 2011 at 8:39 am |
  8. canopy

    This article is about Bishop Long not Jesus...

    On that note...15 million is alot of money for a settlement. The fact he had that much to settle with is interesting. As Big Boi put it, you don't need to pay that much for innocence.

    June 1, 2011 at 8:30 am |
  9. Pastor Carlton Evans

    Pray and let God be God!!!

    June 1, 2011 at 8:05 am |
  10. Renee

    Jesus is real so is satan, and all who do not believe WILL live in eternity with the latter! PERIOD...true believer stop arguing with the ignorant out here. Say what you say, leave this site and don't look back just as I am about to do!

    June 1, 2011 at 8:03 am |
    • Scarf

      It never ceases to amaze me how stupid and delusional these Bible fiction followers can be. Long is nothing more than a perverted snake flock fleecer. That is the reality and the sooner you realize it, the better.

      June 1, 2011 at 8:09 am |
    • The Bobinator

      I have a couple of questions.

      A) Most christians say God is good and every action God takes is for goodness sake, even if it doesn't seem like it's good.
      B) God brought into the world original sin, for it was God's choice to apply it or not.
      C) God flooded the world, killing all the people because of sin.
      D) God forced a father to sacrifice his son (stopped him before he did it), forced another to sacrifice his daughter.
      E) God tortured a man to settle a bet with Satan.
      F) God sacrificed an innocent individual for all the sins of the world.
      G) God seems to value your worship of him rather then what you do or do not do.
      H) God punishes people for infinity for finite crimes. The worst among those is not worshipping and believing in him.
      I) God introduces a system of love and fear. You have to love me, but you have to fear me as well.

      If this was a man, Christians would call these acts unquestionably evil. However, because they're done by God, they're seen as good.

      Maybe the bible wasn't written by God. Maybe it was written by Satan. Maybe God is waiting to the side to see if you figure out that a being worthy of worship would not want it.

      If you give God a pass on everything it does, then you're morally bankrupt. You choose to obtain your morality by being told, not by deduction.

      Why couldn't God have simpy forgiven everyone. Surely it's in his power to do so. Why the needlessly complex plan of giving birth to himself to sacrifice himself for a loophole to a rule he himself created. Seems silly.

      June 1, 2011 at 8:26 am |
    • Geez

      Hey Bob thats only one question... and you forgot the question mark. All that typing for nothing. No one has the answers. Thats why its called faith. Just as its impossible to prove your side without a doubt.

      June 1, 2011 at 8:45 am |
    • Abner

      Bobinator, Correction–

      First God did not force Jephthah to sacrifice his daughter. In fact, there is no mark of approval of that sacrifice at all (if it was one, there is some debate if he sacrificed her or simply kept her from marrying for the rest of her life). God hates child sacrifice and has never received one.
      Second, Jesus chose to lay His life down; as God-incartnate basically God offered Himself four our sins.
      Third punishment is a reality. If you speed, you get a ticket. If you break the law, you go to jail. If you reject his offer of salvation, the consequence was yours because you knew what His word said. If he punished you without letting you know the consequences for rejecting Him that would be petty.
      Job's trials were a result of Satan's attempts to discrediting his faith and God proving that the faithful will remain faithful
      Finally, God is the all-powerful Creator of the universe. He Created everything for His purposes and His glory. Does the pot tell the potter how to use it? Can the hammer tell the carpenter not to build with it? Then who are we to say that God has no right to demand our worship. We were Created by Him and for Him.
      I know you're looking for an excuse not to believe and will mock everything I just said, but the reality is this, you know the consequences of rejecting God according to what the Bible says. What you do with that knowledge is between you and Him? Just don't blame Him for your choice.

      June 1, 2011 at 9:05 am |
    • something

      Here are some of my personal beliefs and answers to your post, it said you have some questions. No whether or not you really have questions or you just wanted to put your opinion out there I'm not sure.
      A) True. Whatever God does, he does because it is ultimately the best decision and one that is made out of pure love of us, his children.
      B) God allowed the original sin to enter the world. He did not cause it. He allowed it into the world because ultimately it would be a test for us.
      C) Yes, God flooded the world. He did not want more children born into this world that would be born to an unrighteous society that was so crooked that the kids themselves would have no chance at beginning to make correct choices for themselves. So it was an act of love, so he could send his children to different families where they would have the chance to make either good or bad decisions.
      D) God never forces anyone to do anything. He asks, but he will not force. The trial of Abraham's faith in this case was an important trial in God's eyes at this time. It is not ok to murder, obviously, but God has a different understanding of death then we do. He looks at death as another part of our eternal lives.
      E) Again, he allowed trials to happen to Job, but they were trials of his faith. Faith has such an importance in God's eyes that he will allow us his children to go through a number of specific and difficult trials while here on earth. In the end, Job received double what he lost.
      F) Ok, so here we get to the whole idea of God will never force an individual to do anything. God did not force His Son to die for us. Jesus Christ was willing, as we read in the New Testament. And once again, God does not see death as we do, it was not the end of Christ's life, but the beginning of life for all mankind. No unclean thing can dwell in the presence of God, and therefore, He sent Christ to suffer for all of our sins so that we could return to live with Him. That is the ultimate act of love.
      G) God does value that we worship him, but what we do is a reflection of how we worship him. If we do not have charity and love and do not treat our neighbors correctly, we in turn do not love God as much as we say we do. Obedience to His Commandments shows that we love him. Christ himself stated that not all of those who claim that they worshiped him in this life will enter into the kingdom of God, but only those that will do the will of Father, or, obey his commandments.
      H) Another name for God is eternal. So when we talk about Eternal Punishment we might not be talking about punishment forever, but we are talking about God's punishment. I believe everybody will suffer for their sins, and receive a kingdom that suits them. The worst sin is not unbelief. The unforgivable sin is knowing without a doubt by the power of the Holy Ghost that God lives, and then in turn denying Him and fighting against Him. Not many will ever get to this point. The next to worst sin is the shedding of innocent blood.
      I) The translation of the word fear isn't the most accurate. We do not fear him like we fear an angry enemy or the boogie man. We love him. When it is said that we should fear him, we are talking about realizing our nothingness compared to him. There is no need to be afraid of him. This confusion could be another result of many uninspired men translating and changing the bible for over almost 1700 years.

      God is bound to do only righteous actions. If he disobeys, he himself ceases to be God. Again, looking at the whole picture we can understand that everything he does has a righteous purpose, and is better for all of us. God lives by eternal rules and principles as well. Because of that He CANNOT just forgive everyone. He must live by the rules of justice and mercy. Those that do wrong and don't repent must are subject to eternal justice, again, eternal being another name for God. Everyone will make mistakes in life. Mercy is applied to those who follow The savior Jesus Christ and obey his commandments to the best of their abilities. This may all sound silly, but then again, as humans we think too much with our heads sometimes, and not enough with our hearts.

      June 1, 2011 at 9:16 am |
    • The Bobinator

      Ok, I'll skip the rest of the rationalizations except for Job, just to keep things on point. God was asked permission by Satan to inflict harm upon him. God allowed it. Therefore God is responsible in torturing a man for his own personal bet with Satan. It's akin to a mob boss allowing a hit to occur. Is that person not responsible.

      You seem to miss my original point. If you assume all acts are good, regardless of effect, you're as apt to believe that Satan is good. Which is why I'm asking you how you know that God is not satan.

      Your answer has to be "The bible tells me so". Which is hilarious.

      June 1, 2011 at 10:53 am |
    • civiloutside

      Imagine a man has a faithful and loyal dog. Suppose he also has a spiteful neighbor who claims he can get that dog to bite it's master if he's allowed to do anything he likes to the animal. So the master gives him the dog.

      Weeks later, the dog is returned mangled and bloodied from continuous torture. And wheen it refuses to bite the master smugly proclaims "see what a good master I am?" That's pretty much the story of Job.

      It's hard to credit Jesus' sacrifice as being, well, much of a sacrifice if he really was the son of god (or as some would have it, if he really was god). Death for him was nothing more than the return trip to heaven to be with his dad (or to go back to being an omnipotent heavenly being). What's more, his spot in heaven was guaranteed to him. Every mere mortal who has ever given their lives on behalf of others without certain knowledge of heavenly reward has made a greater sacrifice than his.

      June 2, 2011 at 7:57 am |
  11. j

    so for "an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J" he must have received a very high education to "borrowe/plagiarize and/or improve from those who came before.( In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics" – wasn't it the most educated that had such knowledge not a peasant who had not learned at the feet of nobles ...
    it is said whenever he spoke people were amazed and said prety much what you said "isn't he the son of the carpenter, his mother mary his brothers so and so ect...
    you forgot to mention that its a two sided argument you name some Professors, there is about the same amount that would argue differently... where you convinced by these Professors perhaps like others are convinced by the counter argument? your FAITH in your proffesors seems strong... so why not allow others their faith? we should all be allowed to preach what we believe in but everyone makes theire own choices base on where they want to place theire faith.
    "Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld" hb 11:1

    June 1, 2011 at 8:03 am |
    • Scarf

      Delusional gibberish.

      June 1, 2011 at 8:13 am |
    • Patricia

      What?

      June 1, 2011 at 9:04 am |
  12. John

    Eddie once said....."this fight, am gonna fight" so why not fight it out, you negociated? if you are innocent you could have fough it out for us to know the truth, now you dont wanna fight anymore............. Even a one year old kid know the truth.

    June 1, 2011 at 7:56 am |
  13. stevie68a

    The world will grow up when people realize that jesus is imaginary. jesus is imaginary. Shout it from the rooftops!

    June 1, 2011 at 7:49 am |
    • poepper

      SO SAD U BELIEVE THAT!!!

      June 1, 2011 at 8:32 am |
    • lan

      SO SAD U DON'T BELIEVE THAT!!!

      June 1, 2011 at 8:58 am |
    • Stevelan

      FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE SHOUT IT OUT AND JUMP OFF THE ROOF OF 216-STOREY BUILDING.

      June 2, 2011 at 12:08 am |
  14. RufusVonDufus

    There is not one TV evangelist who is worthy of anything but a few years in prison for impersonating a man of god. They are all scam artists living high off the fears of the common man. They realize that religion is a scam and are happy to spend the money of those stupid enough to give to them. They all have lifestyles way above those who contribute. A good laugh they give me!

    June 1, 2011 at 7:46 am |
    • NJreader

      Well said.

      June 1, 2011 at 8:41 am |
  15. steve

    so he settled out of court, huh?
    GUILTY!

    June 1, 2011 at 7:18 am |
  16. D

    I don't know what some of these poeple are saying in their comments. BUT, Jesus was not killed b/c he was against organized religion. Jesus was "killed" to atone for our sins, and bridge the chasm between man and God. Those in "organized religion" at that time didn't like Jesus b/c 1) he was a "regular" man with more power than they and 2) they were hypocrites (like many elitist Christians today). However, to say Jesus was against "organized" religion is mis-leading. It would be more correct to say he was against false religion.

    June 1, 2011 at 7:12 am |
    • Free

      D
      "they were hypocrites (like many elitist Christians today)."
      By 'elitist' you mean the non-moderate, Bible-literalists of all social strata we have today, right, the ones who shake their Bibles at people while enjoying their hypocrisy just as the Pharisees supposedly did in Jesus' time?

      June 1, 2011 at 8:11 am |
    • D

      Exactly. I mean those who think that they know it all and are somehow favored by God. Jesus taught us that we ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. All Sins are equal. And we all are sinners. None of us is better than the rest as God has a plan for the poorest / most illiterate of us that is just as important as the plan he has for the most educated / well -versed / morally "correct" of us.

      June 1, 2011 at 3:46 pm |
  17. ISITME?

    Duh! The VERY FIRST time a friend of mine watched a televised sermon of Eddie Longs, she called me to say that he was a really dynamic pastor, but that she thought that he had acted inappropriately with one of the males that had gone up to the front of the church, along with other men seeking "redemption". Meanwhile, Mr. Long stood about face high to the crowd and reached out to comfort one particular man, by pressing the mans face into the side of his crouch and held it there much longer than normal. When I finally got a chance to watch Mr. Long on television, I picked up on every gay inuendo and gesture that an undercover man can make. We both decided that there was something wrong with this man over two years ago. What I dont understand is what is wrong with the women like MLKs wife. I left a church because of the pastor, for a much lesser deed. If this type of behavior is witnessed on tv by myself and friend, then I do not understand the blindsideness of the MEMBERS! I have often heard it said, that if the church appears to profit, no one has anything to say, because they believe profit comes from God and that the church must be doing something right. However, let them hear that the pastor is stealing money and bankrupting the church, then that is when you see all the "sheeps" clothing of the church "angels" come off. Nuff said – Let the church say – Amen!

    June 1, 2011 at 6:57 am |
    • D

      He probably had to wait for his wee-wee to go back down...

      June 1, 2011 at 4:53 pm |
  18. Reality

    The Long and King fiascos simply add more credence for the following:

    Recognizing the flaws, follies and frauds in the foundations of Islam, Judaism and Christianity by the "bowers", kneelers" and "pew peasants" will converge these religions into some simple rules of life. No koran, bible, clerics, nuns, monks, imams, evangelicals, ayatollahs, rabbis, professors of religion or priests needed or desired.

    Ditto for houses of "worthless worship" aka mosques, churches, basilicas, cathedrals, temples and synagogues.

    June 1, 2011 at 6:37 am |
    • ComeAgainBaltoMD

      and end tax-exempt status for religion!

      June 1, 2011 at 8:16 am |
  19. Daniel

    JESUS WAS KILLED BECAUSE HE WAS AGAINST ORGANIZED RELIGION. THE JEWS WERE SCARED OF HIM, BECAUSE THE TEMPLE WAS A PLACE TO WORSHIP GOD, AND IT WAS ALSO A PLACE TO DO BUSINESS. THE ONLY TIME IN THE BIBLE THAT JESUS GOT ANGRY, WAS WHEN HE KICKED OVER THE TABLES ETC., OUTSIDE OF THE TEMPLE, FROM PEOPLE SELLING THEIR WARES. HE EVEN SAID THAT HE DID NOT COME TO DESTROY! THIS, I BELIEVE WAS AIMED AT THE JEWS.
    JESUS PREACHED AGAINST PUTTING A PRIEST, A MINISTER, OR A RABBI BETWEEN YOURSELF AND GOD.
    HE SAID THAT IF YOU WANT TO PRAY, GO IN YOUR CLOSET, CLOSE YOUR EYES AND TALK DIRECTLY TO GOD.
    I'M A RECOVERING CATHOLIC, WITH FOURTEEN AND A HALF YEARS OF "CATHOLIC BRAINWASHING."
    THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE RICHEST "NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION" IN THE WORLD! THEY OWN THOUSANDS OF CHRUCHES AND SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND HAVE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE VATICAN BANK, AND WE HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT STARVE TO DEATH EVERY DAY. LOOK AT YOUR
    HOMETOWN AND TELL ME HOW MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE YOU HAVE, AND MOST OF THEM VETERANS! DO ANY OF THE "CHRISTIAN CHURCHES" HELP THESE PEOPLE?
    THE VATICAN IS JUST AS CROOKED AS OUR GOVERNMENT. IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY! THE CATHOLIC CHURCH COULD WIPE OUT STARVATION IN THE WORLD, BY THEMSELVES! THINK OF WHAT ALL THE CHRISTIAN
    CHRUCHES IN WORLD COULD DO!
    JESUS HAD A ROBE AND A PAIR OF SANDALS, PERIOD! IF HE CAME BACK TODAY AND SAW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN HIS NAME, HE'D PROBABLY FAINT. WHEN HE WOULD WAKE UP, HE'D GO DIRECTLY TO ROME AND TELL THE POPE TO SELL EVERYTHING, TAKE OUT ALL THE MONEY IN THE BANK, AND "FEED THE HUNGRY, SHELTER THE HOMELESS, AND CLOTHE THE NAKED."
    WE CHRISTIANS ARE 180 DEGREES FROM CHRIST. I HEARD AN ATHEIST ON TV SAY THAT THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T ACT LIKE CHRISTIANS, ARE CHRISTIANS, AND SADLY, ISN'T THAT SO?
    PLEASE BUY A MACDONALD MEAL FOR A HOMELESS PERSON TODAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE THE EXCUSE THAT "THEY'LL ONLY SPEND IT ON BOOZE, IF I GIVE THEM MONEY." THEN TAKE THEM INTO A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT, AND BUY THEM A MEAL.

    DANIEL

    June 1, 2011 at 6:36 am |
    • Reality

      The real Jesus:

      Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

      The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.
      earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

      For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

      Current RCC problems:

      Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

      Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

      Current problems:

      Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

      June 1, 2011 at 6:41 am |
    • Insecure in Bel-Air

      @Reality
      "Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, ...."
      Out here we call 'em the "professional eunuchs".
      Have you read any Bart Ehrman ?

      June 1, 2011 at 3:39 pm |
  20. Daniel

    JESUS WAS KILLED BECAUSE HE WAS AGAINST ORGANIZED RELIGION. THE JEWS WERE SCARED OF HIM, BECAUSE THE TEMPLE WAS A PLACE TO WORSHIP GOD, AND IT WAS ALSO A PLACE TO DO BUSINESS. THE ONLY TIME IN THE BIBLE THAT JESUS GOT ANGRY, WAS WHEN HE KICKED OVER THE TABLES ETC., OUTSIDE OF THE TEMPLE, FROM PEOPLE SELLING THEIR WARES. HE EVEN SAID THAT HE DID NOT COME TO DESTROY! THIS, I BELIEVE WAS AIMED AT THE JEWS.
    JESUS PREACHED AGAINST PUTTING A PRIEST, A MINISTER, OR A RABBI BETWEEN YOURSELF AND GOD.
    HE SAID THAT IF YOU WANT TO PRAY, GO IN YOUR CLOSET, CLOSE YOUR EYES AND TALK DIRECTLY TO GOD.
    I'M A RECOVERING CATHOLIC, WITH FOURTEEN AND A HALF YEARS OF "CATHOLIC BRAINWASHING."
    THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE RICHEST "NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION" IN THE WORLD! THEY OWN THOUSANDS OF CHRUCHES AND SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND HAVE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE VATICAN BANK, AND WE HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT STARVE TO DEATH EVERY DAY. LOOK AT YOUR
    HOMETOWN AND TELL ME HOW MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE YOU HAVE, AND MOST OF THEM VETERANS! DO ANY OF THE "CHRISTIAN CHURCHES" HELP THESE PEOPLE?
    THE VATICAN IS JUST AS CROOKED AS OUR GOVERNMENT. IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY! THE CATHOLIC CHURCH COULD WIPE OUT STARVATION IN THE WORLD, BY THEMSELVES! THINK OF WHAT ALL THE CHRISTIAN
    CHRUCHES IN WORLD COULD DO!
    JESUS HAD A ROBE AND A PAIR OF SANDALS, PERIOD! IF HE CAME BACK TODAY AND SAW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN HIS NAME, HE'D PROBABLY FAINT. WHEN HE WOULD WAKE UP, HE'D GO DIRECTLY TO ROME AND TELL THE POPE TO SELL EVERYTHING, TAKE OUT ALL THE MONEY IN THE BANK, AND "FEED THE HUNGRY, SHELTER THE HOMELESS, AND CLOTHE THE NAKED."
    WE CHRISTIANS ARE 180 DEGREES FROM CHRIST. I HEARD AN ATHEIST ON TV SAY THAT THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T ACT LIKE CHRISTIANS, ARE CHRISTIANS, AND SADLY, ISN'T THAT SO?
    PLEASE BUY A MACDONALD MEAL FOR A HOMELESS PERSON TODAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE THE EXCUSE THAT "THEY'LL ONLY SPEND IT ON BOOZE, IF I GIVE THEM MONEY." THEN TAKE THEM INTO A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT, AND BUY THEM A MEAL.

    YOURS IN JESUS CHRIST,

    DANIEL

    June 1, 2011 at 6:33 am |
    • Reality

      The real Jesus:-----------------

      Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

      The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.
      earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

      For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

      Current RCC problems:

      Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

      Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

      Current problems:

      Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

      June 1, 2011 at 6:42 am |
    • Learn Your Bible

      Jesus was killed for claiming to be God (blasphemy)...hello.

      June 1, 2011 at 6:47 am |
    • Free

      Learn Your Bible
      "Jesus was killed for claiming to be God (blasphemy)...hello."
      If he ever made such a claim, which seems unlikely. He was a devout Jew, after all. "Son of God" is a label they applied to lots of people and even things in the OT. Only a Greek-educated gentile would confuse it with Jesus claiming to be a demi-god like Hercules.

      He probably would have been killed because he was drawing attention to himself as a leader during Passover, the festival of liberation, in Jerusalem with a swollen population, and the Romans had a standing policy to hang such rabble rousers automatically.

      June 1, 2011 at 8:22 am |
    • Bucky Ball

      @Free
      You are on the right track, (in my opinion). It's a fascinating subject. He was an itinerant apocalyptic, who knew he was taking a chance in gong back to Jerusalem, as he knew the authorities were looking for him. In his third trip into Jerusalem, it says he actively avoided the authorities, at least for a while. Then he did the "temple" cleansing. The entire city of Jerusalem was dependent on the temple economy. The Jews had to use only their own currency for temple activities, and thus, FOR A FEE, had to exchange their Roman currency to buy the animals for sacrifice, pay the bathing fees, the entrance charges, the animal prep fees, etc., etc. When jesus "overturned" the tables of the money changers, he became an immanent threat to that economic system, and the PO-lice had to act. They had the Romans execute him.
      Cheers.

      June 1, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
    • Free

      Bucky Ball
      Yup! Paul and others had to sell the faith to the Gentiles after all, and there was already some conflict between the strictly Jewish Christians and this off-branch. It's one of the great tragedies of history that the Jewish people have been made to bear the responsibility for having killed Jesus when the reality is that the Romans most likely did the job but, like I mentioned before, try selling THAT to the Romans after they turn to Christianity.

      June 1, 2011 at 4:54 pm |
    • DlionS

      @ Daniel...You're almost there, almost. Except your quotes of a a bias and stereotypical statement from an Atheist.

      Everyone, Believers(Gentile, Jew, Buddhist, Muslim, Christian, etc.)or Non-believers (Atheists, Agnostics, etc.) have it's own black and white. It only differs on the figures, recognition and admittance.

      Unarguably, Believers especially Christians has the lion share of the populace, hence has the greater number of them tend to do not good deeds. Moreover, Believers are recognizable and undeniable, on the other hand, Non-believers are unrecognizable and deniable. In other words, aside from their enormousity, it easy to recognize the believer and it would be hard for them to deny their belief when recognized. While, the Non-believers, aside ot their rarity, it would not that easy to recognize them and they can easily deny and pretend as Non-believers.

      Satan's only main ingredient is deceit but he can make thousands of delicious but lethal menus out of it to poison us all including (few good) Non-Believers.

      June 2, 2011 at 12:49 am |
    • DlionS

      Should be read: they can easily deny and pretend as "Believers"*

      June 2, 2011 at 12:54 am |
    • Free

      DlionS
      How do you recognize 'true' believers? Do they all carve crosses or something into their foreheads?

      No, I think there are public believers just as there are public non-believers. People who wear their position on their sleeves, like Richard Dawkins and Billy Graham, and everyone else who can deny their true beliefs equally no matter how often they go to church, or stay away from it. Half of the people who sit on the same pew as you may only be there because it's expected, and half of the people who you suspect of being non-believers because they don't go to church with you may just be staying away because they don't like hanging around such big time sinners. Some bad people, after all, go to church to try to get better, but not always successfully. Good people may stay away from church then like healthy people stay clear of hospitals full of sick people.

      June 2, 2011 at 2:20 pm |
    • DlionS

      @Free..You said: How do you recognize 'true' believers? Do they all carve crosses or something into their foreheads?

      Ok, to take away confusions and doubts, let me rephrase it this way, Everybody would be presumed Believers unless otherwise they claim as Non-Believers.

      June 3, 2011 at 1:29 am |
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