1919 signed letter contains Hitler's first known stance on Jewish 'removal'
June 7th, 2011
06:35 PM ET

1919 signed letter contains Hitler's first known stance on Jewish 'removal'

By Dana Garrett, CNN

New York (CNN) - A signed letter by Adolf Hitler, which contains what is believed to be the earliest written expression of his views on Jews and anti-Semitism, was unveiled at a press conference in New York on Tuesday by the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

Rabbi Marvin Hier said the letter, written in 1919, is "one of the most important documents in the entire history of the Third Reich."

Wearing white gloves to protect the fragile, yellowing document, Hier, founder and dean of the Wiesenthal Center, pointed out what he considered to be the most significant phrase in the four-page, typed letter - the words "Entfernung der Juden," German for "removal of Jews" - which Hitler wrote must be the government's "final goal."

"In 1919 he wrote this. Twenty-two years later he implemented it as Chancellor of the Third Reich," Hier said. "He removed the Jews altogether."

The Simon Wiesenthal Center, a Jewish human rights organization, purchased the letter from a private dealer for $150,000 and will put it on permanent display in July at the center's Museum of Tolerance in Los Angeles.

Hitler was a 30-year-old veteran of World War I when he wrote the letter on September 16, 1919. At the time, he was working for the propaganda unit of the German army, Hier said. It was Hitler's supervisor, Capt. Karl Mayr, who assigned him the task of articulating the army's position on the Jews for Adolf Gemlich, who was an army spy. (At about the time he wrote the letter, he also attended a meeting of the German Workers' Party to find out more about them, at Mayr's request. Later, it would be the National Socialist Workers' Party, and Hitler would be its chairman.)

The letter, which was written on a German army typewriter, is addressed to Gemlich. It was authenticated in 1988, according to the Wiesenthal Center.

In the letter's English translation provided by the Wiesenthal Center, Hitler identifies Judaism as a race, not a religion, that has been preserved "through a thousands years of inbreeding" and is only concerned with "the pursuit of money and power."

"The result of which is that a non-German race lives among us with its feelings, thoughts and aspirations, while having all the same rights as we do," Hitler wrote.

He warned against anti-Semitism "born of purely emotional ground," which he wrote would only lead to pogroms - referencing the organized mob attacks that targeted Jews in Russia and, later, Germany. Hitler's letter makes clear he had a larger objective in mind. "The final goal must be the removal of Jews," he wrote. "To accomplish these goals, only a government of national power is capable and never a government of national weakness."

Hier said the letter was found in 1945 in the Nazi Archives near Nuremberg by an American soldier, William F. Ziegler, and sold to an historical documents dealer.

It has remained in private hands since then. Hier said a dealer offered him the letter in 1988, but then sold it to another collector before the Wiesenthal Center could verify its authenticity.

When it was offered a second time, Hier said there was no hesitation.

"We knew immediately that the Gemlich letter is absolutely historic. There is nothing like it in the world," he said.

Hier said an unsigned "office copy" of the letter exists in Munich, which scholars have known about, but that the copy now in the hands of the Wiesenthal Center is the only signed copy. It has never been publicly displayed.

Hier said the letter is significant in large part is because there is no known signed order by Hitler for the extermination of the Jews. Instead, it was the No.2 man in the Reich, Hermann Goering, who gave the order in July 1941 to Reinhard Heydrich, the head of the Nazis' security apparatus, to carry out "the final solution of the Jewish question."

"This is the first document and only document of its kind that deals with the Jews exclusively and postulates the solution," Hier said of the Hitler letter.

Whether Hitler had in mind concentration camps and mass extermination at the time is not a question that can be answered by this document, Hier said. "But I can tell you that Hitler in 1919 said we don't want any Jews in the country that I live, and I don't want them removed by corner pogroms. I need them removed by a legal system where the government legally removes them," Hier said. "That is unprecedented." he added.

Hier said he hopes the letter, which will be part of an interactive display in Los Angeles, will be used to teach students young and old about demagogues and the consequences of taking them lightly.

He said if people had taken bets in 1919," they all would have bet this is a lot of nonsense, nothing would happen like this. And 22 years later, it happened exactly as he wrote it.," he said.

- CNN Belief Blog

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  2. roeschandco

    I wondered why a man who had a jewish mother would kill his own kind. But looking at what Stalin did...anything is possible.

    July 29, 2013 at 9:12 am |
  3. k0nsl


    This letter only lessens the position of the so-called Holocaust Promoters because it confirms the theories by Holocaust Revisionists and merely buttresses the National Socialist stance on Jewry; Hitler wanted the Jews out.
    Only somebody with a paranoid mindset would consider the German wording for removal as "extermination" in scientifically impossible "gas chambers" and theories of Wild Western shootings on the Eastern Front.

    What's wrong with the folks at the Wiesenthal Center?

    Indigo Stanza (k0nsl)

    November 1, 2012 at 6:59 am |
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    July 3, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
  5. Drago

    This letter approved one sure thing: Hitler was a very clever already in this years!!

    November 8, 2011 at 7:32 am |
  6. scott H

    There is some real filth out there as I read some of the comments. any comparison is ludicrous, and insane at best. Just provoking a response-unless they are real, and they are animals and should be hearded with the rest of their arab filth and muslim sympathizers into a true holocaust. lets nuke every arab capital–at least then they will clean themselves.

    June 26, 2011 at 7:24 pm |
  7. Ivan Chernyakhovsky

    When Hitler said that he will annihilate the Jews, the only those that not believe him were the Jews themselves.
    When Ahmadinejad said that he want to wipe Israel from the map, believe him, especially if you are Jew and particularly if you are Jew in Israel.

    June 12, 2011 at 3:49 am |
  8. Ivan Chernyakhovsky

    When Hitler said that he will annihilate the Jew, the only those that not believe him were the Jews themselves.
    When Ahmadinejad said that he want to wipe Israel from the map, believe him, especially if you Jew and particularly if you Jew in Israel.

    June 12, 2011 at 3:47 am |
    • Immanuel Goy Mahdi

      Wow this discussion about an early letter has degenerated into the typical racial, geo-political, smear set. I do respect all peoples opinions, however, can we let a little "true" history prevail here?
      Not to seem that I support Hitlers views in the least, but really there are many, especially jews themselves who need to be looked into as to contributing factors of the WWII destruction.
      Hitler did not intend to destroy the "orthodox" jews of central and eastern europe in the beginning. No rather he DID want the steadfast jews who chose to not assemilate into the general population out of europe, and if many of you would study the affairs of Rabbi S. Wise you would find that he was responsable for the turning away of the St. Louise ocean liner from American ports that was full of jewish refugees, Rabbi Wise also put a stop to the food shipments from the U.S. that were sent to feed the starving jews of the Ghettos. Rabbi Wise also sent word to the european jewish leaders to stop sending food and supplies to the starving men, women and children (jews) of all the ghettos.
      You must ask yourself, "Why would this "political" Zionist do such a thing?"
      Perform internet searches for this man, along with the secret "Bermuda Conference" of 1943 for more details.
      Also interesting reading can be found by looking up "The Bergson Group" another Rabbi who "opposed this man and wanted to save the jews of europe, but was effectivly shut down by Rabbi Wise.

      I do not know, but I do not like it. I also do not like the idea that there were over 150,000 SS troopers that were "jewish" many of you may not know this fact, and yes, they killed jews just like the other soldiers did, but you may say "they were forced" well no they were not. They were "converts" very interesting.
      I for one do not understand jew killing jew until I did alot more research into the matter. I discovered that jews killing jews is NOT a new idea. It has been going on a long long time. Please research the king of the north "Alexander Jannus" nick named "The Beast" Yes, he was "jewish", but he also came south into juda to try his hand at exterminating Pharisee jews, and crucified over 800 Pharisee priest right in the streets of the holy city, and even cut the throats of the priest wives and children in front of the crucified men while he watched while eating his evening meal with his wives, and yes he was the king of the 10 north tribes of Israel. (the 10 lost tribesof Israel?)

      Why did he do this horrible thing?

      You see, Adolph Hitler WAS jewish, but rather a "converted" jew. No need to look for proof in his family, Dr. Bloch, the family doctor was jewish. He attended his mothers death from breast cancer. Jewish doctors, especially then, were not allowed to treat Goy, or non-jewish patients. In the Talmud it is against jewish law for a jewish doctor to treat non-jews. The Talmud also states that it is against the law for a jew to save the life of a goy or gentile.
      Interesting is it not?
      Another fact concerning breast cancer is that it has become medically well known that German jews carry a DNA defect that leads to breast cancer. matter of fact almost 1 in 40 jewish breast cancer victims have this DNA indicator.

      Concerning Palestine, Yes, England did control this area after WWI, thru the Palestine Mandate. The idea was for the land of the Palestinians to be "purchased" legally from the Arabs for the Israel nation, not stolen. or taken by force.

      August 19, 2011 at 11:08 pm |
  9. Name*meester

    Was Jesus antisemetic when he through down the money changers tables?They outsource this country,destroyed the WTC,and they hate the common white man.

    June 11, 2011 at 11:13 pm |
  10. FairGardern

    The Bible is always right in everything; evil must be eradicated or corrected when it's still small.

    June 10, 2011 at 10:40 am |
  11. Emmet D.

    What amazes me is there is a Jewish state today. Historically (sources other than the Torah, for the hubris tic "fairy-tale" crowd), Israel became a kingdom around 1,000 B.C. (3 thousand years ago). Israel fell into civil war around 900 B.C. Northern Israel was mostly eliminated by 700 B.C. by Assyria. The southern part was conquered by Babylon in 586 B.C. Later, it was conquered again by the Greeks, briefly won independence under the Maccabees, and was finally "permanently" wiped out by the Romans around 70 A.D. The Arabs invaded the region, forcing out the Romans (Eastern Empire) in the 630s.

    For almost two thousand years, the Jewish people were without country. They were, with the possible exception of the Black African people, the most hated and persecuted in history. Yet, now they have their little bitty country back again. Amazing.

    Total Jewish Population in Israel: 6 million. Total Arab population in the middle-east: 300 million. Total area of Israel: 20,700 square km. Total Arab area: 13 million km. Estimated GDP of Israel: 110 Billion. Total Estimated Arab GDP: Over a trillion. Not much of a comparison, really. Israel is very, very small. Without a strong defense, and defensible borders (which must include the Golan Heights), it would take less than a day to over-run Israel with a modern army.

    Israel is a dinky little country filled with people that, historically speaking, shouldn't even be alive.

    June 9, 2011 at 9:45 am |
    • Friend

      Emmet, Christians are the most severy and widely persecuted people in the world, especially all over Asia and the Middle East – more than 0.2 billions today. The existence of Jews and presence of Israel proves that man cannot thwart the good God has established and God's will is done on earth no matter how evil conspiracies mankind plans or comes up with.

      June 10, 2011 at 2:39 am |
  12. Daniel Ajah

    GOD knew why he kept the Jews alive to this day as for me i am not a Jew GOD has a reason for that.

    June 9, 2011 at 12:11 am |
  13. Pat

    Isn't it ironic that the most-devoted caretakers of Hitler's legacy are the very people he sought to annihilate?

    June 8, 2011 at 10:05 pm |
    • Juliet

      oh, I was thinking the same thing

      June 9, 2011 at 12:32 am |
    • Punkass

      Would you want the world to forget that 6 million of your ancestors died at the hands of a genocidal lunitic? Thats why they preserve it, so it doesnt happen again or to anyone else. Come on, wise up. Ppl who dont remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

      June 9, 2011 at 4:47 pm |
    • Jimmy Two-Hands

      The Jews commtted genocide many times in the past. They are not innocent.
      And now they have experienced what it feels like to be on the receiving end.
      Did they learn anything? Nope. They are treating Palestinians exactly like Hitler treated them.
      For all that people say Jews are smart, they really are stupid for treating others badly even now, even after all that has happened to them. That isn't smart. That is criminally stupid. Criminally insane.
      And their reasons? Overly contrived justifications based on everything and anything. Religion is just a tiny part of it.
      Treating the Palestinians like Hitler treated them is pathetic. Israel has no moral standing, only strategic standing in this world.

      June 12, 2011 at 8:02 pm |
    • Jonny

      Jimmy No Brains... you're an idiot... When was the last time that the Israeli gov't loaded Palestinians onto cattle cars and shipped them off to be gassed and burned alive... Emmmm... NEVER. So you're completely wrong. They don't, in fact, treat the Palestinians as they were treated. Actually, BB has made it quite clear that he supports a Palestinian state, but that is only when Hamas and Fatah are not aligned and not at the expense of his people's security (which our sorry excuse for a President of course is pushing for). Why don't the Palestinians just request a plot of land from Jordan and go make themselves at home, away from Israel's rightful land that they took in the 67 war propogated by the disgusting people that you advocate... You're standing up for EVIL, make no mistake.

      June 21, 2011 at 12:21 pm |
  14. Marie Kidman


    June 8, 2011 at 7:37 pm |
    • Heath

      What a beautiful butterfly

      July 2, 2011 at 7:24 am |
  15. iii

    اhitler is one of most leaders in the world who had been told lies on him

    June 8, 2011 at 4:33 pm |
    • RoyC

      There is something strange about the letter. Why was the letter typed on lined paper?

      June 8, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
    • Just a guess

      Maybe because it was typed during nasty post-war economic chaos, so he probably used whatever paper he could find.

      June 8, 2011 at 9:52 pm |
  16. Guillermo

    After thousands years of 'Civilization', after 2k years of so called 'Christianity' (Nothing to do with Christ himself), after many horrible wars (30 year war, WW1, WW2, Vietnam, etc) the lesson has not been learned. It is said 'remember WW1 and other wars' so we don't repeat the mistakes of the past. What happened? It is so sad, instead of the Love that Christ and the Apostle Paul spoke off we have excuses and exceptions. And all these 'shows' were brought to you mostly by the European bullies France, England, Russia, Spain, etc mainly in the European and American (The '3 Americas' theatres So be sure to watch the next show in the theatre near your country or region.

    June 8, 2011 at 1:46 pm |
    • bustarhymes

      Well said. Please accept my apologies for posting the peanut butter jelly song. That was both inappropriate and immature, and I sincerely hope that you, as well as the rest of the participating members in this forum, would be so kind as to over-look my momentary lapse in judgment by trying to monopolize on the discussion by introducing such an unrelated article to the discussion.
      Yours truly,

      what time is it?

      June 8, 2011 at 1:53 pm |
    • Greg Kells

      History is malleable. We take what we want from it and shape it to our needs. That's how it always has been and how it likely always will be. The life of Christ is a perfect example of historical opportunism. He was a politician, and little more. He set out to reclaim the throne of Jerusalem. All the credible evidence suggests that Jesus was a mortal man on a mission of political, not spiritual destiny. His history was changed some 400 years later by Clemente, then further distorted by each translation or interpretation that followed.

      June 9, 2011 at 12:14 pm |
  17. bustarhymes

    Turn up your speakers to 11


    June 8, 2011 at 1:44 pm |
    • Dr. Bombay

      Effin hlarious! It's nice to take a moment and just laugh. The constant barrage of negative news is so depressing.

      June 8, 2011 at 11:23 pm |
    • k0nsl

      I agree with Dr. Bombay that it's almost a must to take a break for a good laugh. Equally important is it to sometimes take a break and expunge ourselves from wrong beliefs and mindless hate:


      Good day, all.


      November 1, 2012 at 8:29 am |
  18. chris Honry

    Where are the letters from when the Jews took Palestine by force in 1947 ? They didn't learn anything at all from WWII, they did violence against all those in Palestine who did not want their rule.

    June 8, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
    • chris Honry

      Oh, yeah, how could I forget, and now because of their actions we have Islamic terrorists since then all the way to 9/11 and beyond.

      June 8, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
    • Newsjoke

      You don't know much, do you, the Jews did not take Palestine by force, they were promised the land by the British, who inconveniently enough, had promised it to the Palestinians as well. The war wasn't against Palestinians, it was against Egyptian, Syrian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Iraqi troops, that were trying to wipe a newly created Israel from the map. Israel was given the right to declare Statehood by the UN. Also, Palestinians were told that if they abandon their lands in favour of their Arab brothers, those same palestinians will lose all claim to land within the state of Israel, Palestinians that stayed, received Israeli citizenship, and were allowed to stay on their land. The only Palestinians that lost out, were the ones that gambled on their fellow Arabs to remove the Jews from the equation, it was a bad gamble, and they lost. Tough luck, they should really start learning to live with it, and stop expecting the whole world to pay for the collective lack of Palestinian judgement.

      June 8, 2011 at 1:43 pm |
    • Lycidas

      "Where are the letters from when the Jews took Palestine by force in 1947 ? They didn't learn anything at all from WWII, they did violence against all those in Palestine who did not want their rule."

      That is amazing considering that Israel wasn't founded till 1948.

      Palestine?? Oh you mean that British territory that was given to both the Palestinian Arabs and Jewish ppl, that was meant to be two independent nations. Sadly the Arab nations around Israel just had to attack and get their butts stomped by the Israelis. If only those Arabs would have left good enougn alone, the Palestinian ppl would already have a nation of their own right now.

      June 8, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
    • Bucky Ball

      "the Jews did not take Palestine by force, they were promised the land by the British".
      -- Maybe this time they were/did, but in their national mythology, ("history story"), which they formulated during the time of the Babylonian Captivity, they told themselves that the Real Estate Contract in Deuteronomy (34:1-4 and it's alternate version in 33:48-52) gave them the right, (because Moses and Aaron, (essentially wandering nomads up to then), went up to the top of Mount Nebo, and thought, "oh, looks good to me"), to the property they saw, and then went ahead and tried for many generations to try to get possession of same, with some great difficulty it seems, (which raises another question entirely), and now today use that same ancient Real Estate Contract as the basis, (at least implied), that they still have the right to that property. Very interesting.

      June 8, 2011 at 2:55 pm |
    • Laughing

      @Bucky Ball

      Although I agree it's ridiculous to use a book of fairy tales as a basis to claim real estate and expect it to hold up, you are not entirely correct. Your whole passage refers to the israelites, but the Jews of today come from the kingdom of Judah, which reigned in what is now part of Israel and was later conquered. I don't contest the fact that zionists who claim that god divinely gave them the land is just plain silly, but historically it is as much theres as it is to the palestinians. They lost it because they were forced out and the same could be said about the palestinians. You (the royal you, not you specifically bucky) can argue all day that it was "mine first" I really think the rule of finders keepers applies here and get rid of this "the torah gave it to me" crap

      June 8, 2011 at 3:42 pm |
    • Bucky Ball

      Thanks, I agree. I had forgotten that before the expulsion/flight event, known as the Exodus, there were settlements exactly where you describe. But I think Mount Nebo is considerably south from the old Kingdom of Judah (?), and if so, we may be talking at cross currents. I may be wrong about that I will look that up later tonight. If it is, then I would stand by my original thought. 😈

      June 8, 2011 at 4:00 pm |
    • Bucky Ball

      BTW, (and this is not addressed to you personally either), but the use of the words "fairy tale" and "fairy story" is often seen hereabouts. I actually have no problem with a fairy tale. I prefer to use the word "mythology", but consider them equivalent. They are useful in transmitting concepts, more easily in some cases, than either plain old prose or poetry do.

      June 8, 2011 at 4:11 pm |
    • Laughing

      Actually, I think chronologically, the kingdom of Judah was after the exodus (if, that is the exodus even happened). Mt Nebo is in Jordan (I think) and the Kindom of Judah was in the south, Eilat up to I think Jerusalem, the other 6 tribes covered up to the Golan I think. Since the 7 tribes were technically a confederacy of jewish states sort of, all of that land is considered jewish even though the only surviving members come from the south and not the whole. The sad truth is that many people use Deuteronomy as proof that israel is the jewish homeland which I disagree with.

      June 8, 2011 at 4:16 pm |
    • Bucky Ball

      OK. You do seem to know a lot more than I do. I will try to read up, (and look at a map !) 😳 But I do know for a fact that there were settlements of Semitic peoples before and concurrent with the event, described on Egyptian hieroglyphs, and they were in the north. But I can't even remember who were the historical Pharoh candidates at this point so I have a lot to read. But I always laugh that one of them was "tut-Moses". My friend from Sudan once spent a while explaining to me the origins of the word "tut", a Sudanese word, taken over by the Egyptians, (Tut-Ankh-Amun). Bla bla bla.
      BUT, that point of the (sometime) wandering Confederation which you raise is truly fascinating ! I think this is a key to understanding the whole ball of wax. The Prophet Amos had to struggle with his countrymen, ("Fallen is Virgin Israel, never to rise again, deserted in her own land, with no one to lift her up."), to make them understand that if there really was a unique insiration which they may have held, (and I no longer believe that), it would be abrogated by their "becoming like the nations", when they gave up the Confederation, and chose to have a king. (Samuel IX ?), for strictly political advantage and social prestige and convenience.

      June 8, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
    • Avi Shlomo

      Palestine promised to both the Jews and the Palestinians...wow is the same old manufactured history? take it from a Palestinian Jew, Israel was built on the destruction of Palestine. our Arab friends were treated the same thing Hitler treated us in Europe. Get real, The Palestinians were there....Unless you believe in the bibilcal myths...Let's see if those Jews in America would return the Indian their rights.

      June 8, 2011 at 6:49 pm |
    • Lycidas

      @Avi Shlomo- Yes, the territory of Palestine was promised to both group. I suggest your research the Palestinian Mandate.

      "Israel was built on the destruction of Palestine"

      Of course....a British territory was destroyed and was going to be made into two nations. Are you as upset that the Europeans made Jordan, Syria, Egypt and Lebannon as well? You seem rather selective in your anger.

      June 8, 2011 at 9:27 pm |
    • Wise Man, Tel Aviv

      Too bad you and the others writing these talkbacks don't know a thing about reality; you all live in a never-ever land. Jews have continuously lived in what the Romans called "Palestine" sfor over 3000 years. There has been a Jewish (relative) majority in Jerusalem at least since the late 18th Century (that's 1790, for those who don't know). And there were HUGE Jewish communities right nearby in Damascus, Egypt and Lebanon. They may not have been a majority in ALL the Land, but to say that "the Jews" "arrived" only 120 years ago or after the Holocaust is ridiculous and you know nothing about the reality of the region.

      The Jews – like the Christian Assyrians and Armenians, and the Moslem Kurds – are one of the INDOGENOUS peoples of the region, and like them were oppressed by the Arab invasions of the 8th Century – even though they supported the Moslems against the Crusaders (a lot of good THAT did us). Now, in the last 150 years – the Jews (here and in their Diaspora), the Kurds, the Christian Lebanese, The North African Berbers and the Armenians have demanded their self-determination. IS THAT BAD?

      And we didn't "take" Palestine from the Arbas. IT WAS DIVIDED, and we ACCEPTED the division. The Arabs of the Region REJECTED the division, because they could not accept non-Arab, non-Moslem sovereigny even over a TINY BIT of terrritory – like they cannot accept Kurdish or Berber sovereignty. THESE ARE THE FACTS

      And we – the non-Arab indogenous peoples of the region – are the WAVE OF THE FUTURE in the Region., Start accepting it. And don't write about things you learned about by reading headlines of Blogs.

      June 9, 2011 at 3:20 am |
    • jon

      I was trying to avoid posting on this HIGHLY ANTI-SEMITIC comments page but I can't ignore the ignorant statements regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Israel was granted statehood by the UN in '48 following persecution from the Holocaust in Europe and the surrounding Arab countries. Needless to say is the fact that Hebrew kings ruled Jerusalem thousands of years BEFORE the birth of Christ; and I shouldn't even have to bring up the notion that Jerusalem is mentioned in the ancient Hebrew scriptures hundreds of times while it's NOT MENTIONED ONCE in the Koran. If the Arabs in the surrounding countries of the Middle East really cared about the Palestinian refugees than they would've accepted them into their countries decades ago. The only common ground that the Arab League of Nations and the Palestinian Authority can honestly agree on is their hatred for the Jews and for the existence of Israel. That's the real reason why it's been so difficult for Peace in the Middle East.

      June 10, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
    • jon

      And another thing @ chris. What do you mean, "because of them we have islamic terrorists up to 9/11 and beyond"? You're contradicting yourself in a single sentence. If the terrorists are islamic, what do the Jews have to do with it? Islamic terrorists made headlines in the '72 Summer Olympics in Munich when they captured and killed Israeli athletes. Who was the victim again? Let me say it again in caps so you could understand: ISLAMIC TERRORISTS made headlines in the '72 Summer Olympics in Munich when they CAPTURED AND KILLED ISRAELI ATHLETES. Oh yeah, I could see how that's Israel's fault.

      June 10, 2011 at 2:50 pm |
  19. JustTheFacts

    What about Marxism, Socialism, Nazism, etc? Aren’t they also a form of ideologue fanaticism that is used to sway the masses and control the population? However, I do agree with you that people in the position of power have used religion for their own personal purpose. And like I said before, there are people who kill in the name of religion, but just because they kill in the name of religion doesn't really mean they kill because of religion. To determine if they kill because of their religion, one would have to review and study the religion’s individual doctrines. See how this argument goes in circles.

    @Fidei Coticula Crux

    True. All of those (Marxism, Nazism) had madmen behind them, but the simple fact is without Organized Religion, religious fanatics have no sway, no control over the masses, no power over free-thinking men.

    What's the difference between Marxism, Nazism, and Organized Religion? Nazism was crushed and Marxism is on its dying last legs and might as well be dead already. That leaves only one. Omnipresent and having no borders and last but not least...."In Gods Name". Who is going to crush that or wants to be the one known to have SEEMINGLY Gone Against God Almighty himself? The Genie is out of the bottle already. She ain't going back in it.

    Would if Jesus had died an old man of natural causes and had never been crucified or existed at all for that matter. Would if Allah, Buddha, and all the others had never existed either. What would the world look like? Would if religion was not even a word in any language spoken? Would the world be in more or less conflict, more or less hostility towards others, more or less united? Has anyone even dared to ponder the thought, other than John Lennon, or post it to CNN's blog? LOL
    I can say for a fact that religious differences would not exist at all period.

    Would if people spent less time worrying about God and the Afterlife and more time trying to better the lives of the people that are here today on this earth. If every generation did that, what would the world look like today?
    How bad a concept is that really? Ponder the thought.

    June 8, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
    • bustarhymes

      read one of those bibles that you have laying around (that you apparently still haven't read yet) and then you'll see what it would look like.

      🙂 😉 😀

      June 8, 2011 at 1:28 pm |
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