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My Take: On adoption, Christians should put up or shut up
June 16th, 2011
03:11 PM ET

My Take: On adoption, Christians should put up or shut up

Editor's Note: Jason Locy is co-author of Veneer: Living Deeply in a Surface Society. He and his wife are adoptive parents and participants in Safe Families for Children, a voluntary alternative to foster care.

By Jason Locy, Special to CNN

When the Arkansas Supreme court struck down a voter-approved initiative that banned cohabitating straight and gay couples from adopting orphaned children, the Christian community predictably erupted.

Byron Babione of the Alliance Defense Fund, a coalition of Christian lawyers, attributed the April ruling to a “political movement afoot to undermine and destroy marriage.” Baptist Press, the publications arm of the Southern Baptist Convention, ran an article that quoted Babione as saying the ruling reflected “a campaign to place adult wants and desires over the best interests of children."

On one hand, these comments aren’t surprising. Conservative evangelicals have decried “the anti-family gay agenda” for decades. On the other, they underscore the way many Christians denounce a social problem that they have no plan for solving.

And the problem here is not ultimately gays adopting — the prevention of which, I believe, was the impetus behind the Arkansas initiative and behind adoption restrictions in various other states. The problem is a global orphan crisis involving tens of millions of children.

In the United States, there are approximately 116,000 foster children waiting to be adopted. That means a judge has either severed the rights of the original parents or the parents have voluntarily signed their children over to the government.

To put this into perspective, we might compare the number of American orphans to the purported 16 million Southern Baptists who attend more than 42,000 churches nationwide. Quick math reveals that there are roughly 138 Southern Baptists for every child in the American foster care system waiting to be adopted. To say it another way, this single denomination has an enormous opportunity to eradicate the orphan crisis in America.

If you’ve spent any time in church, you’ve probably heard a sermon on Noah or Moses or David. But how many sermons have you heard on the biblical mandate to care for orphans?

When was the last time you heard your pastor declare, “if you choose to adopt a child we will stand with you. We will provide respite care, financial help and do everything possible to meet the needs of that child?”

Southern Baptists, Presbyterians, Methodists, Catholics — the Christian Church — can provide safe, loving, permanent homes for these kids. Our faith dictates that we fight for a better way in both words and deeds.

When Jesus asked Peter if he loved him, and Peter responded yes, Jesus didn’t tell him to picket the wolves. He told Peter to feed and tend his sheep.

Some churches and Christian groups are stepping up. Focus on the Family launched a Wait No More initiative in Colorado in 2008, forming partnerships between local churches, adoption agencies and the government in order to encourage families to adopt through the foster care system. As a result, the number of Colorado orphans waiting for a family has been cut in half.

Christianity Today ran a 2010 report headlined “Adoption is Everywhere,” illustrating the trend among churches and Christians who are giving “attention to orphans, adoption, the fatherless, and so on.”

Despite such efforts, the American orphan crisis remains. Too many churches still find it easier to stand behind a megaphone decrying the morality of laws than to stand beside a child in need.

Thousands of orphaned children in America need grandmas and grandpas, embarrassing uncles and crazy aunts. They need someone to teach them to fly a kite and throw a ball and read a book and tie their shoes. They need someone to call mom and dad.

In fairness, adopting a child is not easy and many of these children face difficult adjustments once they’re adopted. They have experienced pain, loss, hurt, confusion and misplaced trust. They have endured physical, emotional and sexual abuse — things most of us don’t even want to imagine.

In 2008, when my wife and I adopted through Bethany Christian Services, the organization educated us on the possible challenges of adopting a child. They informed us that even though our daughter was a baby when we brought her home, she would eventually ask tough questions, as would our friends and family.

But my wife and I know our faith demands action and that sometimes action takes us out of our comfort zone.

As a father of three — two biological children and an adopted child — and a host to a number of children that have needed a temporary home I can tell you these kids need less arguing over who should and should not be allowed to adopt and more families stepping up and saying, “we will adopt.”

It is time Christians decide to either step up or shut up. If a Christian group wants to wade into the discussion over who should adopt, it needs to put its money and manpower where its mouth is.

That means not only challenging families and churches to adopt from foster care (which costs virtually nothing financially) but also to adopt children resulting from unplanned pregnancies, children with special needs and children of mixed race or minority ethnicity.

If Christians’ only desire is to fight the culture wars and score political points, then they should continue to lean on empty rhetoric. But if they truly care about the family and the Bible, they’ll begin caring for children who desperately need a home.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Jason Locy.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Christianity • Opinion • Politics

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  1. Seriously?

    As a gay man, a Christian, and an adoptive parent of two who I fostered first, I find the people here proporting to be Christians not to know very much about the life or teachings of Jesus Christ. They may glom onto certain unorginal, pharaphrased and ridiculous out of context Bible passages that their frightened reverend has trotted out like a remnants of a sinking ship but it's not Christ nor is it Christian if you believe that Christian denotes a follower of Christ. Most of what I read here is some in-bred cross between ignorance and fear. Certainly no reality. Certainly no Christianity. Yeah, adoption is hard. So is raising a child. If you can't stick it out through adoption, that's a good sign you won't stick it out through parenthood. Adopting in this country, especially through Social Services takes persistence, educating yourself on the system, having to deal with an enormous amount of ignorance and laziness, and ultimately pushing hard to make sure the child you welcome into your as your own stays there. From what I read in these postings, it's a good thing many of you don't have the backbone to adopt. Calling yourself Chrsitian may make you feel superior or worthy of something but it's clear many of the posters here are sad, angry, scared people who know little if anything about Jesus Christ. Kids being adopted have enough problems without parents like that. Wallow in your own hatred and ignorance, me and my family are living happy and healthy and my boys have learned love and tolerance and to give back and will grow up with goodness, not the type of pathetic hatred and gross ill-education that seems to be part of the fabric of many Christian faiths. And I'm alright by that, God will see us through.

    June 20, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
    • Earnest Lee Saddened

      Seriously, for all anyone knows, you are a well spoken chimpanzee with a penguin for a mate raising turnips. What anyone in here claims is far from verifiable. You could be all of 12.

      June 20, 2011 at 8:32 pm |
    • Biff

      OMG UR ghey and u admit that? LMFAO Oh man, I gotta show people this link d00d.

      June 21, 2011 at 7:22 pm |
    • Wow.

      To the reply above: What, you've never heard of an openly gay person? If he's gay, he's gay. What's it to you? Look at you, so unbelievably close-minded and ignorant that you can't even bear to spell the word "ghey" for what it actually is. I'm a 17 year old straight female, and on behalf of people with brains, I'd like to say that people like you make me sick.

      June 23, 2011 at 7:42 pm |
    • Boni

      Seriously; I agree with you and I have two adopted boys along with 3 bio kids. I am confused as to why, in our country we think it is the business of the government to decide who can marry whom. I am not gay and I am very conservative, I consider myself a Christian. I think the government needs to get out of our bedrooms.
      I also tried to adopt from the foster system I wanted a child younger than my youngest who was 7 at the time. I did not want to foster, I was ready to jump into the commitment to adopt. But when ever I was able to find a child there was always some rule. My home study agency was not allowed to do home-studies for Utah. The child had a friend that she is attached to so only Colorado residents can apply. Her GAL will not allow her to leave California. After renewing my HS once I gave up. I am a tried and true adoptive parent and I could not find a child, that would fit into my family, that I could adopt. So as far as this article... I think Christians do try to adopt and I see the Gay marriage as a religious issue that the Government needs to stay out of.

      June 23, 2011 at 11:21 pm |
    • Sarah

      Agree with you 100%!

      June 24, 2011 at 1:30 am |
    • PRISM 1234

      @Seriously

      If you are a practicing "gay" , and say you are a Christian, you lie to yourself. Practicing Hmsx-uality is an ungodly sin, which goes deeper then sins of unrighteousness, becaue it is a perversion of God's intent, His design, and nature itself, which God has created not to be altered! That's why he says it is an abomination.

      If you say I am hateful for saying it, then you have issue with the Spirit of Truth, who is the Holy Spirit of God, and without whom NO ONE knows Jesus Christ. NO ONE can be a Christian, and be immersed in such sin as hmsx-ality. If you think you can, and God endorses your practicing lifestyle, you hav dragged God to your own level, and do not know the real Jesus Christ. If you think I'm hateful for speaking these things to you, then take it up with God. It is with Him that you have problem, not me.

      I hope you see what I'm saying and won't let your pride get in the way.. But I'm having real doubt about that, but, oh God, how I wish I was wrong about it....

      June 26, 2011 at 2:21 pm |
  2. Carole Turner

    I said pretty much the exact same thing in May of 2010 http://www.carolesmithturner.com/2010/05/gay-adoption-put-up-or-shut-up.html

    June 20, 2011 at 4:59 pm |
  3. PRISM 1234

    @ JOregon,
    CNN scr-ewed up our posts, so I'll post mine to you again:

    According to what I gather from you posts, you don't see nothing wrong with practicing gays adapting a child? Is that right?

    Another question: is it wrong for us, Christians to stand up for preserving the definition of inst-it-ution of marriage as being a union ONLY between a man and woman? Should the laws be changed, so that ho-mo-se-xua-ls could be married?

    June 20, 2011 at 3:48 pm |
    • JOregon

      PRISIM
      That's one reason I prefer the MSNBC discussions, much less controlling.
      I posted, CNN removed us all.
      I do not think Gays should be married. By definition a joining of man and woman.
      I do think they should be allowed to join in a civil union with all the rights of marriage. Make up a new name.
      I think those people, of any one on one combination (living together), where there is a loving unity should have all the legal rights of marriage.
      The bible has no mention of tax deductions. The rights that married couples enjoy in this Nation are not defined in the bible.
      That includes adoption, the bible doesn't say anything against gays adopting.
      Even if it did the USA is not a Bible based nation. Our founding fathers made certain that there was no religious basis to our foundation. The Treaty of Tripoli signed by John Adams makes it very clear:
      **As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.**
      The real question to you is, do we allow sinners to adopt? I believe we do. This is America.
      According to the bible if you are divorced and you remarry it is adultery (Mark 10:11-12).
      Should people that commit adultery be permitted to adopt? So often those church groups that point their fingers at gays will marry divorced people in their churches. I think God will be much angrier with those that think they can give God's blessing on sin than he will be on those that sin.

      June 21, 2011 at 9:57 am |
    • PRISM 1234

      JOregon, could not get to you , but will come back tonight. There are some tings here unresolved....

      June 23, 2011 at 8:18 am |
    • JOregon

      No rush, I'll check back for the next few days.

      June 24, 2011 at 8:51 am |
    • PRISM 1234

      JOregon, sorry didn't get to you sooner....
      First I want to make sure that you understand that I'm not here to argue or debate with you. I am here to speak out of a heavy heart. I am well aware of mentality of people of today, especially in this country, where so many are trapped in the tangled web of humanism, individualism and relativism, and I know that debates are more often then not one's wasted time....
      I do agree with you on some points, especially that all people should have certain rights, and if some are committed to share household responsibilities, they should have certain rights as people who invest their lives together...Also,no person should be discriminated against on their workplace, or singled out to oppress, so long they go by acceptable conducts, and live peacefully.

      But as I read your comments, being a Christian and a true Bible believer, there is one thing that always rises a red flag in my spirit with people who say they know God, but believe things contrary to His nature and His character. This I find to be a problem with your posts.
      How is it that you can't see that for a child to be given in adoption to ho-mos-exu-al couple is totally different then to a couple that's been divorced? Yes, sure divorce is a sin, and God's Word says He hates it. But when those who have been divorced repent, and with humble hearts ask to be forgiven, God in His mercy forgives them....Then they can live normal life, and raise their children in admonition of the Lord. But two practicing ho-mos-exu-als can not do that, becaue they have not repented, or else they would not practice it.

      You say all sin is sin, and no sin is worse than the other. Yes , all sin is sin, and we all are come short of the glory of God, but you can't say that when a man writes down on hi s time-sheat he worked 10 hours, but he only worked 91/2, or a person looses this temper and says a bad word... you can no say that it is a same thing as committing lewd immoral acts, therewith degrading and defiling his body and soul, of which God clearly declares to be abominations in His site. Nor do the things we are comparing here have the same far reaching implications....
      But this is where many Christians of today stumble... they do not understand that there are two type of sins: unrighteous sins, and ungodly sins. The unrighteous sins are clearly defined, and most people understand them and acknowledge them, such as defined in10 commandments. But the unrighteous sins are tho ones that can not be clearly defined because thy are contrary to the nature of God and are perversion of the intent of God's design. And that's what ho-mos-ex-uality is: a perversion of God's intent, His design, and nature itself, which God has created not to be altered! That's why he says it is an abomination.
      To understand those things, one must understand the nature of God.. Now, here is a question to really ponder and examine: How can someone be born of God and not know and understand His nature? Not possible...I don't believe it can be! If we have the Spirit of God in us, the evidence of it would be that we know God, His nature and His character, of which the Holy Spirit bears witness to us. It should be very clear to us.......

      But even those who don't know God, He has put in every heart certain knowledge of Himself... the Book of Romans clearly declares it, and the Holy Spirit testifies to it. That knowledge is written in the conscience of every human being, given by God as a token of Himself, so that by that knowledge people which He created would yearn to know Him more, and be drawn to Him. But it is when by the love of sin that's in people's hearts, they numb and silence their consciences, and their hearts become darkened, because they chose to follow their own ways.

      So , in your posts you defended those who chose to live out their own sinful, base desires, yet knowing they are unnatural, and you even say that it's not more wrong for them to adopt a child then other sinners – since we all are sinners, so, you say, we have no right to object...What I see here is satan's tactic to impose his will, and get his ways...... But do you know that Jesus said that "whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Him to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea".
      Do you think that that child given to them will go unaffected and unexposed to ungodliness in those surroundings?
      I can only pray to God for that child that would be given over to such home, that God would just take him home to Himself, rather then ending up being adopted by those people. I don't think your really understand what you approved in your comments!....... I just ask myself that nagging question again: how can anyone KNOW God and not understand how serious this is? ..... Not possible.... I don't believe it can be!
      So, friend, from all other situations where children should not be allowed to be adopted, as much scrutinizing and evaluations potential parents have to go through, this one is one of the most serious one, and should be never considered. I know you say " this is America, we are not a Bible based nation". I wish to God we still were! Because when the Bible, was honored, and the laws of God were acknowledged, this county was blest and exalted among the nations. But now, we are seeing what happens to a nation that declares it's independence from Him.
      Don't tel me that our forefathers did not want this country to be a "christian nation". You really don't believe that! I'm not American by birth. But I know American history enough, and have read some of most profound writings of this country's founders, to know that who ever claims otherwise, they are LYING to themselves!
      With this I conclude my letter to you, and hope that you will read it more then once, reading it slowly, so God can show you things out of it as He has given me the words to write them to you! I did not know my post would be this long, but it is what it is!

      God's grace be with you!

      Good night!

      June 25, 2011 at 1:30 am |
    • JOregon

      PRISM
      So that you understand, I am a Christian and true Bible believer also.
      It is important to understand intent.
      The intent of our founding fathers and the intent of God.
      This nation was not founded on Christianity. The Treaty of Tripoli makes it very clear.
      Written by Joel Barlow in 1796. It was sent to the floor of the Senate in 1797. It was read out loud, and unanimously approved. John Adams, signed it.
      The intent of our founding fathers is very clear.
      Under Article 11:
      “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; ...”
      This was the intent of our founding fathers.
      Adams was the first Vice President of the US. He was the second President of the United States.
      He was one of the committee of 5 that drafted the Declaration of Independence.
      If he signs a docu*ment saying the United States was not founded on the Christian Religion you can believe it.
      Originally the treaty was written in Arabic and did not include Article 11. While there is controversy as to whether Article 11 should have been written as part of an accurate translation, certainly our founders knew what Barlow translation said and unanimously approved it.
      Certainly most of our founders were Christian, but it was a huge mix. As they learned about the beliefs of others many switched their beliefs. (Adams began as a Congregationalist but switched to Unitarianism.)
      Another founding father, Thomas Paine, said:
      “I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church.
      All national insti*tutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.”(From “The Age of Reason”)
      As such they were careful to not make this a Nation based on one faith.
      Since we live in the USA, religious beliefs cannot be a factor in determining rights.
      That is all that is really necessary in determining the legal rights of Gays adopting children.
      However since you seem to question my relationship with God I will also address your faith based questions in a following post. Hopefully later today, or tonight.

      June 26, 2011 at 1:57 pm |
    • JOregon

      Sorry it has taken me awhile to respond.
      “How is it that you can't see that for a child to be given in adoption to ho-mos-exu-al couple is totally different then to a couple that's been divorced? Yes, sure divorce is a sin, and God's Word says He hates it. But when those who have been divorced repent, and with humble hearts ask to be forgiven, God in His mercy forgives them....Then they can live normal life, and raise their children in admonition of the Lord. But two practicing ho-mos-exu-als can not do that, becaue they have not repented, or else they would not practice it.”
      Most do not repent at all. To make a conscious decision to remarry is to make a deliberate decision to commit adultery. No born again believer should desire to go against God. When someone makes a willful and deliberate decision to rebel against God they probably don't know him.
      1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
      1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
      1 John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
      I say they “they PROBABLY don't know him.” The reason is when someone becomes born again it is God that changes the heart. Often what we never saw as a sin takes time to repent from.
      A good example is John Newton. He was a slave ship captain when God saved him. He didn't turn away from the slave industry, though he did begin to treat the slaves better. As God worked on him he began to realize that slavery was a huge injustice. In the end he was one of the principle people that worked to end slavery in England.
      So 2 points.
      We aren't to judge someones salvation, God knows the heart.
      Most people aren't Christian anyway. Is it your suggestion only Christians be allowed to adopt?
      I actually know some gay parents.
      They are good parents. When you look at all parents (most are not born again) the gay parents are just the same as any other. Some good some bad.
      “you can no say that it is a same thing as committing lewd immoral acts, therewith degrading and defiling his body and soul, of which God clearly declares to be abominations in His site. Nor do the things we are comparing here have the same far reaching implications....”
      While I believe it is possible for someone to choose to be gay (or bi) generally they are born that way.
      Psalms 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
      Committing adultery is a choice, being born gay is not. Choosing to sin is much different than going against your very nature. You can't tell someone to quit being gay, the change must be made by God, in his time.
      Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
      It is an act of creation.
      “But do you know that Jesus said that "whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Him to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea".”
      You make a bold assumption that the child is a believer. Do you believe we can lose our salvation after we have been saved? Remember Psalms 58:3? Estranged from the womb.
      Isaiah 48:8 Yea, thou heardest not; yea, thou knewest not; yea, from that time that thine ear was not opened: for I knew that thou wouldest deal very treacherously, and wast called a transgressor from the womb.
      If I understand you correctly your doctrine has a serious flaw. Many churches follow this idea that children don't need a savior so they put them in a nursery away from the saving word of God.
      “I just ask myself that nagging question again: how can anyone KNOW God and not understand how serious this is? ..... Not possible.... I don't believe it can be!”
      More serious is those that feel they have the right to judge.
      Luke 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
      We are to go into all the world and preach the gospel (good news).
      The gospel is not to point out the sins of others.
      Look at your hand when you are pointing. Those other 3 fingers are pointing right back atcha.
      Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
      The Good News (Gospel) was deliverance from sin. Both the penalty of eternal death and the grip of sin in life.
      1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
      Let God do his work.

      June 28, 2011 at 1:27 am |
    • PRISM 1234

      @JOregon
      I see a deep flaw in your belief, theology, or whatever you want to call it. You carefully and skillfully use the Scriptures in such way to make case for what YOU want them to say. You obviously know how to use them for this reason, but you avoid to face the ones that don't support your belief.

      But it is not the matter of debate here, and who's got the last word... God is the one, He has set the Standard, and according to His Standard, which is His Word and the witness of His Spirit all things, all issues, all souls will be judged, and weighed in the balance BY HIS TRUTH!

      In the Scriptures it says that the Word of God is living and powerful, and sharper then any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit.... and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart of man. So, in reality, one can never tell what someone is made out of, unless he's exposed to the Word of God. And what he does with the Word of God, reveals "what" or "who" he is.

      But here are the things that are revealed about you:

      When you say gays are born the way they are, you are suppressing the truth of God in unrighteousness.
      For it is written:
      "FOR THE WRATH OF GOD IS REVEALED FROM HEAVEN AGAINST ALL UNGODLINESS AND UNRIGHTEOUSNESS OF MEN WHO SUPPRESS TH TRUTH IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS". Then God's Word continues with Scriptures (Romans 1) which clearly show that even the Gentiles, or those who don't even claim any beliefs, KNOW by their consciences what is right, and what is not, what is normal, or not, and what God's natural order in Creation is! It was put there by God in every man! Yet, you obviously refute that with claim that "gays are born that way". But God said He "created us male and female"! So you attribute to God falseness, something He didn't do, and you align yourself with those WHO SUPPRESS the truth in unrighteousness!

      Furthermore, your response to the words of Jesus "whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Him to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea", it already shows that you dismiss the ones further down in Matthew 18:10, where He says that in Heaven THEIR angels always see the face of His Father.. Yet you don't mind to let them (the little ones) be turned over to those who hold the truth in unrighteousness, to be exposed to such influence that will sear their consciences, numbing them to the truth and righteousness of God, so that they will grow up approving things that are ungodly, holding them as normal.
      You use verse in Psalm 58:3, but taking it totally out of context. You also use Isaiah 48:8 for backing up with it your own flawed theology, yet saying mine has a serious flaw. Why have you ignored other scriptures like Proverbs 20:11 which say that " even a child is known by his deeds, whether what he does is pure and right"? So, according to your theology, a child given to practicing ho-mo-se-xuals would have no chance!

      One more point of what you said is very disturbing.... It is you claim that "Christian beliefs can be no factors in determining the rights, nor the laws of the land. "
      But if the Word of God says that even the heathen knows what is right or wrong by what was put in their consciences by God, who is the Creator of all that exists, and to whom ALL flesh is indebted, and with whom we all have to do, and if His Word commands us to be the light of the world and the salt of the world, is it not then that spirit of satan himself the one who wants to silence those who are God's people?!!!

      The salt is a preservative, and the influence of Christianity and it's principles preserved civilizations of history, although not without satan's onslaught and opposition, and every kind of scheme he could come up with. But you want it out , you want it silent and separate, you don't want it in our laws, and in our society! Do you see yourself in Romans 1:18 as one who partakes with the ungodly? I can see you clearly!

      My conclusion is that it looks more and more that you are in some extreme theology, stuck in a ditch, which causes you to see things out of balance. But every extreme, unbalanced doctrine is a product of satan's deception. And he always uses those kind to accomplish his purposes. But Christ Jesus said it would be so. We have plenty of warnings from the Scriptures about the times we are in today.
      But Jesus said that those who belong to Him know His voice and they will not follow the impostor, because they do not know his voice. GOD'S SHEEP HEARS HIS VOICE, AND RECOGNIZE IT.

      But here is what is written as a warning for all of us:
      "According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it. For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is." 1 Corrintihians3:10-13

      With this I conclude my post, and feel that there is nothing else that needs to be said.
      As I said in previous post, I am painfully aware of mentality of people today, and the spirit of pride that has infested this generation. So, let God be true and every man, who rejects the truth of His Word and the testimony of His Spirit a liar!

      June 29, 2011 at 3:24 pm |
    • JOregon

      Presented in parts to find the bad words that aren't. Have to think with a dirty mind now.
      Prism, I don't mind debate. If that is what you want I can do that with absolutely no animosity whatsoever.
      You say you don't want debate but you use words to attack instead of seeking understanding. I am not hurt, nor offended. Comments presented like you do are a result of not understanding. I am more than happy to help you understand, at least where I am coming from.
      In less than a year I will be 60. I have been a Christian for about 25 years.
      I have spent many hours pouring over the scripture, comparing scripture with scripture. I have listened to various bible teachers, and read many commentaries. Been in many churches.
      This discussion is probably not best discussed at CNN, and if you would like to move it to a Christian Forum I would be happy to do that.
      I attended a Southern Baptist Church (SB) for many years, I found that I was more in line with the founders of the SBs than the SBs of today. Before I was a Christian I was a New Age reincarnationist, before that an Atheist. The point is, you don't change beliefs and doctrines, nor do you leave a church where you love the people, if you are not open to the possibility everything you believe is wrong.
      If you know of any scripture that doesn't support my belief, or if you feel I am missing an important verse, please present it.

      July 2, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
    • JOregon

      I am not afraid of the scripture in any way shape or form, are you?
      In Romans Paul is speaking to the Church, not those outside the church.
      Look at verses 6-8:
      6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:
      7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
      8 ¶ First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

      This puts what he says in context.
      You are using the passage out of context. Romans 1 does not give you permission to point out any particular sin to the unsaved of the world.

      July 2, 2011 at 4:06 pm |
    • JOregon

      You put a lot of emphasis on verse 18, verse 17 speaks again to the context.
      17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

      This is the reason he is not ashamed of the gospel, the JUST shall live by faith. Verse 18 presents the flip side. The need of the unsaved to hear the gospel. Not the pointing out of sin – there is no salvation in pointing out sin. In verse 19 he reveals it is God that shows them their sins – not you. He explains in:
      Romans 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)

      That doesn't change the fact that Gays are born that way. You don't understand how desperate man's condition is.
      When A&E were created they were created in the image of God. God is spiritual, A&E were spiritually alive. When they disobeyed God, God separated himself from man. Now man is Spiritually dead. A&E were created Male and Female. Since then corruption has entered into the process.
      Do you think God's perfect creation would allow babies to be born with 2 heads? Cerebral Palsy? Spina Bifida? There are all sorts of abnormalities humans are born with. Including hormonal, and genetic causes of ho*mos*ex*uality.
      The bible makes it clear:
      Psalms 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

      Ever person before they become saved is counted among the wicked. We come out of the womb corrupt.

      July 2, 2011 at 4:08 pm |
    • JOregon

      You ignore key parts of verses (“which believe in me”):
      Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

      You make the assumption that all children are saved. I ask you again, so that I might have a better idea what your beliefs are, can we lose our salvation? If so can we get it back after we have lost it?
      I have not avoided verse 10, this is talking about those that are saved.
      You have to deal with several verses.
      Psalms 58:2 Yea, in heart ye work wickedness; ye weigh the violence of your hands in the earth.
      Psalms 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
      Isaiah 48:8 Yea, thou heardest not; yea, thou knewest not; yea, from that time that thine ear was not opened: for I knew that thou wouldest deal very treacherously, and wast called a transgressor from the womb.
      Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

      Not, “all except babies”.

      July 2, 2011 at 4:11 pm |
    • JOregon

      QUOTE:
      “Why have you ignored other scriptures like Proverbs 20:11 which say that " even a child is known by his deeds, whether what he does is pure and right"? So, according to your theology, a child given to practicing ho-mo-se-xuals would have no chance!”
      Proverbs 20:11 Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right.

      Another perfect reference that not all children are saved. They also must account for themselves.
      Why does my theology say that a child would have no chance? If God chooses to save someone he will save them.
      I suggest reading Spurgeon's sermon, “Infant Salvation”. It can be found online.

      July 2, 2011 at 4:13 pm |
    • JOregon

      QUOTE:
      “One more point of what you said is very disturbing.... It is you claim that "Christian beliefs can be no factors in determining the rights, nor the laws of the land. "”
      It is not my claim it is the basis of our nation. There are countries where a religion is the foundation of their laws.
      The United States is not that kind of Nation.
      Like it, or not, YOUR religious beliefs don't determine the laws of this Nation. I believe you have a lot to learn about the scripture so it is probably best if we keep it that way.
      QUOTE:
      “The salt is a preservative, and the influence of Christianity and it's principles preserved civilizations of history”
      That's just plain silly. The only Christian Nation of any length of time is the Vatican City. Compare that with Iran, Tibet, India, Ja*pan, or many others.

      July 2, 2011 at 4:20 pm |
    • JOregon

      Found the offending word. Who would have thought Ja*pan was a bad word?
      QUOTE:
      Do you see yourself in Romans 1:18 as one who partakes with the ungodly? I can see you clearly!
      I don't partake with the ungodly. Not only am I not gay, as a divorced person I don't date. I have been unmarried for 15 years. It is difficult and I did date for about a year but it interfered in my relationship with God. So while it is difficult, I have learned to be single.
      That is how being born again works, someone that is Gay will usually come to a point where their relationship with God overpowers their desire for companionship.
      I can see you clearly. You have felt anger, so you can have some compassion for those of a violent mind. You have felt lust for someone of the opposite sax so you can accept adultery.
      Like me you have probably never had any attraction for someone of the same sax so you can't understand that sin. You find it repulsive. Or you are gay and are lying, like so many of the major anti-gay leaders have turned out to be.
      My theology is not extreme. You just don't understand the gospel. Like the Pharisees you think it is about laws and rules. It is about salvation.
      Don't forget the shepherd chooses the sheep the sheep don't choose the shepherd. That is how they hear him.
      I'll conclude with:
      Matthew 7:
      1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
      2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
      3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
      4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
      5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

      July 2, 2011 at 4:23 pm |
    • JOregon

      Prism
      I realized I left off an important point.
      You cause great harm to the gospel.
      By proposing that ho*mos*ex*uality is a worse sin than the others you present the idea that some sins are OK.
      The bible is clear that every sin demands payment, the “wages of sin”.
      Even speeding or a little lie results in eternal death if the sin isn't paid for.
      By focusing on certain sins you lose the gospel message.
      This is a sincere question, do you know what the gospel is?
      Do you understand by being so militant about certain sins do you understand you make people reject any thought of the gospel?
      Instead of presenting the gospel as something good you present it as something hateful.
      People are tired of hate.

      July 2, 2011 at 11:06 pm |
  4. Bigotry on both sides

    If I were CNN, I'd pull this article. It contributes nothing to the national dialogue on this issue other than mouth fulls of bigotry from all angles of the discussion.

    June 20, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
    • Indiana

      Can't stand being called on your BS? If Xtians want to keep Gays from adopting, the best way is to support young unwed mothers so they don't have to give up their babies OR ADOPT A KID.

      Anything else is empty rhetoric and saves not ONE child.

      June 20, 2011 at 4:34 pm |
  5. A. Prospective

    The problem in much of the US is cash and wait time – my wife and I started looking at adoption several years ago and discovered that it was going to cost us thousands of dollars and the wait time in our state (Kentucky) averaged over six years. If you wished to adopt an infant it could be longer than that. We know others in the same situation – we'd happily give a home and a family to a child but cannot afford the down payment that the state agencies demand. Make the adoption process less expensive and less time consuming and there would be more homes available for these children!

    June 20, 2011 at 3:15 pm |
  6. manta

    Just another issue with adoption. Some people want to adopt and TRY to adopt, but the system makes it a VERY long and trying ordeal. State workers don't always do their job and a child gets put on "hold" for way too long. Watching the scenario that enfolded with a friend doing everything possible to adopt a child and seeing all the heartache she went through to get custody was an eye-opener. Countless emails went unanswered. No answers to pertinent questions. No information about when the adoption would FINALLY come. Now they are moving to another state. They have the child, but were not even told if they can take that child to another state or not. They are in limbo. It's so sad to see. NO WONDER THERE ARE SO MANY KIDS WAITING TO BE ADOPTED!!! It takes FOREVER to get any paperwork done. And the system stinks. If some of the state workers (not talking about all state workers) did their job the way they are supposed to, then maybe more kids would get adopted. I for one, would not even think of adopting a child after watching this unfold. LOTS of money went into this and LITTLE to no effort to get "the ball rolling". Now they may have to start the whole 2 year process all over again. .

    June 20, 2011 at 10:01 am |
  7. Zelda

    Non-christian Americans, you can never be happy by killing unborn humans and surrendering innocent children to perverts. You are just fattening yourself for the Judgment Day. Read the Book of James. It's all about you. You are more guilty than other non-christians because you are doing the evil with full knowledge.

    June 20, 2011 at 4:33 am |
    • Rick

      Wow! This is about the "most guilty"? I thought it was about kids!

      You are a case in point. Thanks!

      June 20, 2011 at 8:46 am |
    • Fors Miner

      Thank you, Zelda, for illustrating perfectly what the author of the article is saying. Another good example of how Christians are more worried about babies being born than being taken care of. STFU!

      June 20, 2011 at 12:34 pm |
    • Zelda is a fool

      And a perfect example of what the author is talking about.

      June 20, 2011 at 1:23 pm |
    • PEACE!!!

      Perverts?!? wow,

      June 20, 2011 at 3:02 pm |
    • Indiana

      How many children have you and your friends adopted?

      June 20, 2011 at 4:36 pm |
  8. Zelda

    Also, American non-believers should stop killing the unborn humans. Their blood is crying out from the land against America. No peace for mankind where there are victims.

    June 20, 2011 at 4:30 am |
  9. Salero21

    Wow, really!! In other words, the author believes He can create a smoke screen big enough, that can hide the Fact that those who procreate; are the ones responsible for their offspring!

    Christians did not create the social problems that now Mr. Locy wants us to solve. How about making them [the Procreators] responsible for their own children. Make them PAY-UP, PUT-UP for those they procreate or make them Stop.

    Is clear that this author is very comfortable with the idea of a Nation made up mostly of Adulterers and Fornicators. Who procreate children by the Millions out of wedlock, with complete disregard for them and their wellbeing. Then he proposes the Grandiose idea that Christians, are to pay for part or all of the consequences. Really!! Whose idea was that?

    Christians are not commanded to solve the problems of the world, but to point the only way to God, who is Jesuschrist.

    We're taking care of our own; that, we're commanded to do First. Make the parents, make the procreators PAY UP, PUT UP; MAKE THEM! If the world does not makes them accountable for their actions, God will make them accountable in Judgement Day!

    June 20, 2011 at 1:46 am |
    • NyteShayde

      "In the United States, there are approximately 116,000 foster children waiting to be adopted."

      Yep, millions.

      You also completely missed the point of the entire article which is to be expected since most of it seems to have struck an enormous nerve.

      PS, go take your meds.

      June 20, 2011 at 2:47 am |
    • SophieCat

      So let them eat cake, eh Salero21? You sound like the Saducees and the Pharisees Jesus talks about in the Bible; those pompous pontificators who shook their heads and wagged their fingers at the "sinners", delighting in the day when those "sinners" would get their just desserts. But Jesus told those pompous "leaders" – using the term "leaders" loosely – that THEY were even more evil than the sinners, for at least the sinners could see the error of their ways, but the church men couldn't see the log in their own eye because they were so focused on the splinter in the eye of the sinner. You sound just like those men. For men like that, it's always somebody else's problem. They can't be bothered, and they're scared to death it's going to cost them something. But Jesus bothered, and it cost Jesus everything. They were the ones He came for – the sinners, the wretched, the lowest of the low. He came for THEM – much to the dismay of you church-going finger-wagging head-shaking pompous idiots who love the sound of your own voice more than anything else.

      June 20, 2011 at 11:21 am |
    • Fors Miner

      Meanwhile Christians (the author claims to be one himself) are doing everything they can to make sure that "fornicators" have their unwanted babies, but then they want to cut welfare programs "because these people just lay around having babies" and they want to picket and deny women who don't want a child, who can't afford a child, etc. to keep them from having an abortion. (I personally believe that people should not use abortion as "prevention", but that's a separate issue). The issue is there are people who otherwise are not producing children, who are willing to adopt, but because people like you don't agree with their so-called lifestyle, are determined to deny them an opportunity to care for an otherwise unwanted child. Methinks you need help removing the rafter from your eye so you can see better.

      June 20, 2011 at 12:39 pm |
    • Salero21

      NayteShady: Not me; you go take your "meds"!
      SohieCat; Take care of your own and don "pretend" you don't know what I'm speaking about.
      ForsMiner; Same as the above.
      You all are the Hypocites Not me! With your ridiculous PRETENSE that christians PAY-UP for the social problems that others create. Whose idea was that? You all sound like Emperor Nero, setting fire to Rome and then blaming the christians. You sound like John McCain blaming illegal immigrants for the fires all over the country. You are truly a sick People, a sick Nation Under God's Judgement. Look around and if you have eyes to see; Look your Land is burning all over.

      June 22, 2011 at 1:42 pm |
  10. dbinpitt

    How about they put up AND shut up.

    June 19, 2011 at 6:02 pm |
  11. calitexgal

    The point this writer is making is a great one. Adopt. Or, help with the finances that will make it possible for the people you think best to adopt. And wihile you are at it – offer to babysit, run errands,etc. for those same people. If you can't do any of that – then quit whining about those people you (and whatever religion you are in) think are wrong to be parents. Single people, gay people, mixed race couples – are as capable to be great parents as anyone else.

    June 19, 2011 at 11:48 am |
    • Speaking of putting up.....

      I'm straight and married and would love to find a Christian church willing to give me $20,000 to pay for adoption fees – will gladly bring a baby home today. Any takers? No? Didn't think so.

      June 20, 2011 at 1:26 pm |
  12. elenore

    I have over 30 cousins because of christian adoption and this doesn't include children who have been fostered by my different aunts and uncles.States have different laws about foster and adoption.My parents had 5 children themselves my father a Reverend and Pastor who refused a salary from any church duties couldn't afford to adopt more children however was always first to support others.Many good Christians Live and Let Live.

    June 19, 2011 at 9:13 am |
  13. careajean

    My husband and I tried to adopt for many years and it is not as easy as the author make it out to be. One: Not all children in foster care have been completely cut off from their parents. Many still have biologial parents who still have their rights and even have some visitation, so there is still the fear that the mother or father could change their mind up to a year after the adoption and get their child back. Two: It costs A LOT OF MONEY. It is so not "virtually nothing", their are still lawyers that need to be paid and not a single one is cheap. I do agree that if adoption was made easier in this country there would be fewer orphans. I like the idea of the initiatve in colorado. Most people don't know where to start when it comes to adoption.

    June 19, 2011 at 12:52 am |
    • Christy

      My husband and I were turned off by the overwhelming cost to adopt an infant and ended up going through the foster care system. Through foster-to-adopt (parents rights have been terminated and there are no more visitations) we adopted two sisters, 2 and 6 months when we met them. We haven't spent a dime! We actually get paid until they turn 18 since they are a sibling group. Since adopting our girls we have met tons of adoptive parents and it is amazing how God provides for those adopting through an agency, whether domestic or international. We have been so blessed to see our church support our friends' adoptions that we have talked about adopting our next child through an agency (I still want a newborn!). You might be suprised how many people support you! I agree with the author that more churches should step up to the plate to help thier people adopt.

      June 19, 2011 at 6:04 pm |
  14. Mark

    Add me to the big list of comments in here who think the author has some serious factual problems and is trying way to hard to make up bullet points to support his agenda. The Christian church is far and away taking the lead in adopting.

    A much much better article would have been about foster care, where everyone is lacking but the church definitely hasn't stepped up in the same way as they have with adoption.

    June 18, 2011 at 11:56 pm |
    • Christy

      read it again! He did mention foster care. and, if the church is doing such a great job, then how come there are still so many children waiting! almost half the children in my church are either current foster children or have been adopted through the foster care system (including my own 2 children), and yet there are still thousands of churches that are not doing a damn thing!

      June 19, 2011 at 6:07 pm |
  15. ThirstyJon

    I have two problems with this article.

    1) Christians have both now and for centuries been adopting, running orphanages and living out God's mandate to care for the orphan. There is nothing wrong with encouraging more people to get involved, but it is false to imply that Christian en masse have not already taken up this task. In short, Christians are already "putting up" more than any other group in the history of this planet.

    2) The author's main point is a false dichotomy. He puts standing up for truth and rightness in society regarding marriage in opposition to taking care of options. There is no such opposition. It is entirely possible for Christians to do both, and Christians are doing both. Why should these two things be mutually exclusive.

    Mr. Locy could have written an encouraging and challenging article inviting more people to get involved with fostering and adopting children but instead has overshadowed this goal with a false accusation and a false dichotomy.

    This is a dangerous trend in the "new Christian left" that even many who would normally call themselves "conservative" sometimes get involved with. Stand up for property rights OR help the poor; stand up for marriage OR foster and adopt children; speak truth OR show love. These are all false dichotomies and they all bring a negative tone to what could be positive action.

    So I say this to Mr. Locy: Shut up AND put up. Stop wasting your breath on irrelevant false accusations or by trying to gain credibility with the enemies of truth, yet continue to foster and adopt and to encourage Christians to get more and more involved with these things.

    June 18, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
    • Christy

      that wasn't very nice. I am an adoptive parent and I was really encouraged by this article. Christians need to stop hating and start LIVING THE GOSPEL!

      June 19, 2011 at 6:09 pm |
    • ThinkingChristian

      ThirstyJon's point is the best comment I've seen on this article, pointing out the logical fallacies of the author's arguments. Christians should oppose gay marriage, because it is biblical. Christians should care for the poor and orphans, it is biblical. A Christian standing for the truth of the bible is not being "judgmental". The key is that it must be done with humility, and a right understanding of the scriptures, realizing that a Christian lives under God's mercy through the saving work of Jesus Christ. Otherwise, we are Pharisees (hypocrites), which God detests of course.

      June 20, 2011 at 8:42 pm |
    • Wendy

      Nicely stated... and while we are at it, let's once again define what "love" is. Love is not blind acceptance of all lifestyles, believe it or not. As a Christian, love and taking a stand are not mutually exclusive. Christ loved us enough TO take a stand... the next generation deserves us doing the same for them!

      June 22, 2011 at 2:50 pm |
  16. PRISM 1234

    "Ho-mo-s-e-x-uals must not be allowed to raise children in a society."
    I agree, the adaption of children should not be allowed for them. We already have enough emotionally and psychologically disturbed children. A child growing up in this kind of environment will never be normal.

    June 18, 2011 at 11:54 am |
    • Jodie65

      Please explain how a child being raised by two loving parents, regardless of gender, wouldn't turn out to be "normal." If that's the case, any child being raised with only one parent should be removed from the home for fear of not becoming "normal." Are you saying it's best these children be left as orphans? Will they have a better chance at being "normal" with no family at all?

      June 18, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • PRISM 1234

      Jodie, when a child is being raised by only one parent, there is a void in this child's life, but this child can still grow up as healthy, complete person, although the one parent has to work much harder to raise the child, being a mother and a father to him or her..... But you can not compare those two situations, they don't fit in same category....

      And yes, it would be better for a child to REMAIN orphaned, then to be adopted into a home of ho-mo-se-x-ual people. There would be deep and far reaching consequences in this child's life.
      But there is no need for any child to remain orphaned , because there are plenty of families who can give them good homes.
      There are also homes for orphaned children which are run by people who truly love them, and although they don't have natural parents, they are in wonderful environment. And they DO grow up to be happy and emotionally balanced human beings.
      But it is not possible for a child to grow up in home with same s-ex parents an not to be psychologically damaged, although having all comforts, privileges, and love they cn give him.. ... Because there is much more to a human being then what meets the eye, and that part which the eyes can't see nor hands can't touch, this part of us is greatly, and deeply affected by what's going on around us!

      June 18, 2011 at 11:15 pm |
    • David Johnson

      @PRISM 1234

      You said: "And yes, it would be better for a child to REMAIN orphaned, then to be adopted into a home of ho-mo-se-x-ual people. There would be deep and far reaching consequences in this child's life."

      As usual, your comments are just your opinion.

      "Research suggests that they turn out about the same, no better, no worse and no more likely to be gay than other kids

      A number of professional medical organizations – including the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Psychiatric Association – have issued statements claiming that a parent's $exual orientation is irrelevant to his or her ability to raise a child.

      For the most part, the organizations are relying on a relatively small but conclusive body of research – approximately 67 studies – looking at children of gay parents and compiled by the American Psychological Association. In study after study, children in same-$ex parent families turned out the same, for better or for worse, as children in hetero$exual families.

      Moreover, a 2001 meta-analysis of those studies found that the $exual orientation of a parent is irrelevant to the development of a child's mental health and social development and to the quality of a parent-child relationship."
      Source: Mackenzie Carpenter, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

      It is 2011. We should stop using Bronze Age morality and ideas to make today's decisions.

      Cheers!

      June 19, 2011 at 4:09 pm |
    • NyteShayde

      Dear David,

      Clone yourself please.

      That is all.

      June 20, 2011 at 2:52 am |
  17. philwynk

    This article contains horrible confusions, and needs some very careful rethinking.

    Confusion #1: Adoption and foster parenting are two, completely different topics. Most parents looking to adopt are trying to adopt a newborn infant, so they have the opportunity to raise the children themselves. Foster parenting involves dealing with developmental problems from broken homes. Very few parents are equipped to handle these sorts of problems. Only occasionally does a foster parent choose to adopt a foster child.

    Confusion #2: Very few foster children are orphans. Most foster children have entered the system because of abuse or neglect. Orphaned children from good homes frequently find homes with relatives or close friends, and never enter the foster care system. The biblical injunctions regarding orphans are misplaced in this article.

    Confusion #3: To suggest that the real issue in allowing gays to adopt is the need for more adoptive parents cannot possibly be serious. The goal of gay adoption is primarily to fulfill a need to socially equate gay and straight marriage. The experiences of states that have had gay "marriage" jammed down their throats by out-of-control courts show that very few gay couples are even interested in long-term commitment, let alone adoption (Massachusetts issues less than 1,000 marriage licenses to gays each year). Laws and activism concerning adoption of children by gay couples have virtually nothing to do with genuine concern for the social problem represented by foster children, and very few children would actually be adopt by gay couples.

    Just about everything in this article is wrong on one of these counts, and needs to be reassessed.

    June 18, 2011 at 9:19 am |
    • Brad

      I disagree with you...completely. Having read the entire article twice, I walked away with two clear messages. One, there are over 116,000 orphans right here in our back yard. Two, we – The Church- are called to care for them. Plain, simple, truth. My wife and I fostered 4 children, and adopted all 4. They were from 3 very broken families. Today, they are happy, healthy, secure... and love Jesus. We know many, many more adopted children who were once lost in the sea of foster care. Don't get so wrapped around the side issues. There are many orphans here in our country, and the Church should step up and give them a forever family. Thanks!

      June 18, 2011 at 10:43 am |
    • Denise

      Your remarks are totally ignorant. You should be ashamed to write this kind of trash. Either you are lying because of your own agenda, or you are too lazy and ignorant to bother checking your 'facts'.
      Many, many gay couples are together way longer than their straight counterparts. Checked the statistics on marriage and divorce rates in the last few decades. Fool. Many gay singles and couples have adopted and continue to adopt, and it's not to prove a point. Fool. At least I hope you're a fool...otherwise you're just plain evil.

      June 18, 2011 at 11:26 am |
    • Ms. Smith

      As you presume to speak to the motivation of all gay people...I'll presume that your #3, your ugly prejudice and judgement against gay families- explains your numbers 1 and 2. Sometimes good deeds are hard ...whether it's opening your mind or helping children. You sound like the kind who likes the easy way out in every situation. I'm a hetero, married, Christian woman who adopted twice and would adopt again if I had the ability to do so. Unfortunately, I'm dealing with an ill family member and this takes up too much of my time& energy to allow a moment for another child. If that chanes, I'll adopt or foster again. God doesn't advocate just loving the people you like, the easy people, the perfect children. If you really believe that...there's some heavy hurt coming your way at the pearly gates.

      June 18, 2011 at 11:38 am |
    • JayGee

      Very well said, Ms. Smith.

      June 19, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
    • NyteShayde

      @ Mrs. Smith. I am in no way a religious person, but amen ma'am. You are a pillar of your church and your community and I commend you. Christianity often gets a bad rap because people like philwynk wouldn't know how to walk the walk if someone showed him the trail head and handed him a map and a flashlight. People like you give me faith that those who claim to be Christian know how to live by the gospel they profess to love. Their may be hope for you all yet.

      June 20, 2011 at 2:57 am |
  18. Reality

    Then there is this information: http://www.prb.org/.../InternationalAdoptionRateinUSDoubledinthe1990s.aspx
    -----------------–
    "International Adoption Rate in U.S. Doubled in the 1990s

    (January 2003) The United States adopts more children from abroad than any other country. The number of foreign children adopted by U.S. parents has increased sharply, and nearly doubled during the 1990s (see Figure 1). At just over 20,000 in Fiscal Year 2002 — less than 5 percent of legal immigrants — international adoptees add relatively little to national population growth, but they contribute to the United States' racial and ethnic diversity and links to foreign countries. And because many adopted children come from a different racial or ethnic background than their American parents, they contribute to the blurring of racial and ethnic boundaries.

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    One reason for the rise of international adoptions is the dwindling supply of adoptable children within the United States.1 Increased access to contraception, the availability of legal abortion, decreases in the teen birth rate, and reduced social stigma surrounding unmarried parenting are among the reasons that there are fewer U.S.-born children available for adoption. Some demographers also point to the postponement of marriage and childbearing as fueling the demand for adopted children. Women in their 30s or 40s are more likely to encounter problems getting pregnant and carrying a pregnancy to term than younger women, and some turn to adoption to have the child they want.

    Unmarried American mothers are no longer a common source of children for adoption. Although the percentage of births to unmarried women has increased dramatically since the 1970s, and accounted for one-third of all U.S. births in 2000, many unmarried mothers now keep their children or transfer their children's legal custody to relatives rather than put them up for adoption. Young teenage mothers are less likely to keep their babies, but the birth rate for young teens has fallen steadily since 1991, according to the National Center for Health Statistics.

    Another reason why many parents are looking abroad for children is that adopting within the United States is legally complicated, slow, and costly. Public adoptions through the foster care system are less prone to legal snarls but are much slower, making it difficult to adopt children while they are still infants. Less than 2 percent of children adopted through the foster care system in 1998 were infants, compared with 46 percent of children adopted from abroad.2

    Georgia Deoudes, director of policy for the Evan B. Donaldson Adoption Inst-itute, sees other reasons that prospective parents turn to international adoption. For one thing, she said, "There seems to be some idea among prospective adoptive parents that adopting internationally is somehow easier or less expensive. That isn't, in fact, true."3 A more likely motivation is that international standards for adoptive parents are in some ways more lenient. Older couples and single adults who might be rejected by private U.S. adoption agencies are more likely to be accepted by adoption agencies in foreign countries. Finally, there appears to be a more clear-cut termination of the birth parents' rights with international adoption that appeals to many prospective parents."
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    June 18, 2011 at 8:04 am |
    • Kate

      I would very much appreciate it if you did not SPAM the thread with the same boilerplate, repeatedly. If you have something to say, say it once and get off the soapbox, there are other people who have commentary as well. Repeating yourself does not make your point better, stronger, or more convincing. It just makes you look like a bot.

      I have reported several of the repeat posts as 'abuse' and will continue to do so. Thank you.

      On Topic: I absolutely do think that Christians as a group need to be more vocal and active about decrying the hypocrites who currently have hold of the microphone. Yes, there are good Christians, but they are shouted down, when not roundly ignored, by the ignorant and prejudiced who denigrate gay people and oppose their civil rights.

      It's true not all people can adopt. Those who cannot should be advocating for the State to treat each person with the respect they deserve, regardless of their belief system or lack thereof.

      It's what Jesus would do.

      June 18, 2011 at 2:04 pm |
    • Christy

      even if this is still the case today, the fact is that there are still thousands of children waiting to be adopted in the foater care system and it is not always a difficult process... I should know. I adopted my two girls through foster care. Plus, adopting internationally has gotten a lot more difficult in recent years.

      June 19, 2011 at 6:24 pm |
    • SophieCat

      You are full of such crap. By "adoptable" children, of course you mean HEALTHY WHITE INFANTS. There is NO SHORTAGE of "adoptable" children in the United States – there may be a shortage of "desirable adoptable children" in the United States but believe me, THERE ARE PLENTY OF KIDS WHO NEED 'FOREVER HOMES' IN THE UNITED STATES. Once again your statements are mis-leading and inaccurate.

      June 20, 2011 at 11:09 am |
  19. Interesting

    This article sadly uses adoption as an Op-Ed against Christians. Not sure the tone of this article was appropriate for CNN.

    June 18, 2011 at 4:01 am |
    • CarrotCakeMan

      Is it anyone else's fault if some Christians are showing they feel hurting their fellow Americans who are LGBT is more important than helping orphans? Don't complain to CNN or the author of this piece about the immoral activity of some Christians–complain to the immoral Christians.

      June 19, 2011 at 11:42 am |
    • SophieCat

      Well if the shoe fits, KICK YOURSELF WITH IT. Get off your fat white butt and DO SOMETHING about it. Instead of blocking the way to the health clinics with your obscenities and name-calling, why not go down to the local DCF office and see about fostering one of those kids that someone didn't abort but rather gave birth to and then tried to kill or starve to death? It may be difficult to adopt, but it's not difficult to extend a hand as opposed to standing around on a street corner with holding a sign of color pictures of aborted babies.

      June 20, 2011 at 11:11 am |
  20. MMM

    I'm a Christian and an adoptive parent. I agree that even more Christians need to step up, though it must be noted that, in recent years, so many HAVE been stepping up in ever-increasing numbers.

    I would like to point out that the armchair critics of adoption definitely aren't all Christian, particularly when it comes to transracial adoption. As a transracial adoptive parnet, I've come to recognize the "type" coming at me, with all of their ivory tower theories that have little to do with the reality of kids suffering right now who cannot wait for their 50-year utopian societal transformation or p.c. "concerns" about the non-ideal nature of mixed-race families. I have found that there's little thoughtful discussion to be had with such folks, only self-righteous pontificating. I have little patience for it anymore and no longer engage. Instead, I simply say, " There are 147 million orphaned kids in the world RIGHT NOW. What are YOU doing to help them?

    June 18, 2011 at 2:14 am |
    • PRISM 1234

      We are not talking here about trans-racial adoption... We are talking about ho-mo-se-x-ual adaption....
      You can NOT put those two in the same category!

      June 19, 2011 at 12:29 am |
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