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June 16th, 2011
04:44 PM ET
Super Bowl hero warns of 'anarchy' if NY approves gay marriageBy Jason Kessler, CNN (CNN) - Former New York Giants receiver David Tyree's celebrated catch in the closing seconds of Super Bowl XLII was pivotal to his team's victory. Now out of football, he is trying to claim a last-minute win over another foe - same-sex marriage. On the same day that the New York State Assembly approved a same-sex marriage bill, Tyree warned of dire consequences if the legislation becomes law. The bill's passage would "be the beginning of our country sliding toward ... anarchy," he said Tyree made the comments in a video released Wednesday by the National Organization for Marriage, which is spearheading opposition to the bill. The legislation must now clear the Republican-controlled State Senate where its fate is uncertain. His disapproval of gay marriage is based on religious as well as secular grounds, Tyree said. "Marriage is the only relationship that actually mirrors the relationship with God," he said. |
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Black leaders are so far behind leading their people out of the darknest on this subject. His arguments sound exactly like segregationists 50 years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGSvqMBj-ig
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Please stop posting this stupid video.
I do not like this interview. Gay marriage is different then gay couple raising children. I know at least two families with a gay parent that are raising children that would may be in foster homes etc. Interestingly enough they have put their personal relationships on hold so they can give their all to the kids. They are being unselfish for the child. That is how most good families do...put the kids well being first. I am all for that no matter what. That is the question that needs to be answered. I am against Gay marriage but totally for gay unions. And that is an old fashion piece of me. I think of marriage with God. I realize that is not everyone's image of it. So I am against Gay Marriage because of the religious aspect. A union at a court house, bless them. Adopting a child (and giving them a home) that has no one else wants God bless them. Having their own child one way or another...maybe rough on the child, but done correctly probably better than many families that are in America. A question that should be answered before children are brought into the world is what kind of life can I give it. I am a special education teacher...and I see many children that have horrible family lives...I think we are getting caught up in a word. I have gay friends and relatives. They should have the same benefits as myself...but let's keep the sanctuary of marriage sanctioned. And t.v personalities should stop trying to make people looking stupid. David Tyree probably could have used a better word than anarchy, but if you have a brain one has to see the point he was trying to make. Our society is going down the tubes and it is scary to watch it continue. Politically correct has gone overboard.
I understand your words, and appreciate your point of view.
I do wonder why you feel the word marriage needs to be saved for hetero folks though. If the benefits of the union are the same, if the results produce the same family unit, and all that is different is the word, isn't that just a little bit silly?
And, you say it's to do with "God"...in my religion, the gods bless unions of all types. If marriage is the word for spiritual unions, and two gay men seek marriage in my religion, then they get the word, but gay men who are atheist or Christian don't?
We're playing dangerous games of separate but equal and all that leads to is separate and second class.
I always enjoy seeing a black man talk about how some minotiry groups do not deserve equal rights. Irony anyone?
The black Christians must not be persecuted on the American soil for saying something that is right. Never again.
Zelda, after reading your comments, I am convinced of a few things. 1) you have little grasp of the English language and 2) you have little grasp of reality. I am not certain if maybe English is not your first language and maybe we are all missing your point or if you are just another lunatic spouting hat speech for fun.
Ah ignorance. And on so many levels.
When it comes to men and Christians, I like it like my coffee...black
Ah Zelda, me thinks you like more drugs than just caffeine.
It's been interresting to read all the comments posted on this blog. It is obviously a "hot-button" topic. I was an Evangelical Christian in my youth, but as my spiritualiy grew, so did my social awareness. I am an interdenominational believer now, & my belief system consists of: love, acceptance & goodwill toward humankind. God clearly states in the Old & New Testament that judgement belongs to Him, it's not my job to judge others sins or declare who'll burn in hell. I'm certain that accepting the secular Civil Rights of gay people will not lead to anarchy, ped-oph-ilia or bea-sti-ality , which are some popular, albeit hysterical, "possible effects" if gays were alowed to marry. What happened to Christian charity & love of our fellow humans? Most of all I don't understand why Christians feel so theatned by this proposal. Nothing will change in your lives. You can go on with business as usual, but it wont hurt to open your mind & heart to those who don't enjoy equal freedoms!!
I think the "Christians" who are afraid of this are those who secretly like the option. Why else would they be afraid? If it doesn't affect them and their eternity directly, then there is nothing for them to fear. You'd think if anything they would feel better about themselves and their own Christian values. I think they are afraid that if "door #2" is presented, they may open it.
what ever happened to just minding your own business?
“The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation.” Pierre Elliott Trudeau, past Prime Minister of Canada
Darth, is it my business if two legitimate votes are overturned by a gay judge when the question is gay agenda? America is not persecuting gays that keep it at home, nor is a vote a method of persecution. I worry that a precedent will affect New York politics. What do you consider MY business? I for one, of many feel that enough has been done to cater to people that perform a disgusting act.
@Earnest, your business? Your marriage, not mine. Period.
I remember Anita Bryant had a lucrative career with the Florida Orange Juice Commission as spokewoman promoting Florida Orange Juice with the Sunshine Bird. Then one day, Anita Bryant made news as being successful in campaigning to repeal the Dade County Gay Rights Ordinance. After that, the gay community mobilized a boycott of the Florida Orange Juice till the Florida Orange Juice Commission got rid of Anita Bryant. It took more than a year for the Orange Juice Commission to get rid of Anita Bryant....
...Today, Anita Bryant is a nobody without much money to her name.
This could happen to David Tyree and other celebrity if they decide to use their celebrity status to attack rights of gay people or other people.
"He shall not lay with he and she shall not lay with she" -GOD. Marriage is a vow taken before God in his presence. To allow a gay marriage is like spitting in gods face and thats excactly what the gay community wants.
It's not my job to educate you or teach you how to do research.
The secular white Americans have some gene defects; the reason they support gays like mad people. They need help.
Ah, eugenics. I remember that cropping up somewhere.
When football players get off the field they should shut up. This guy is an idiot.
The only thing more stupid than Tyree's comment is the media's willingness to report it.
They're going to report it because they reported about NFL players that were pro-gay-marriage... They have to report both sides. Why either matters, I don't know... They're professional athletes, not guardians of a perfect moral code or anything like that.
I'm quite pleased that his point of view was aired. I am glad he allowed himself to be humiliated for using fear tactics and not being able to back up his point of view. Now people can see just what the opposition to gay marriage is made of.
Maybe CNN will moderate the serious stuff I wrote before this set of threads is timeworn and deserted. Good night.
Time to realize this isn't getting moderated. Oh well.
"A marriage is based on Adam and Eve"
–Sorry, but people were being married LONG before your stupid book was written...
I expect you to show America that thick and long line of literature on the history of GAY unions,, before and after the Bible was written. Your word simply does not sit well to most intelligent people.
@Earnest Lee Saddened
I expect you to show America that thick and long line of literature on the history of GAY unions,, before and after the Bible was written. Your word simply does not sit well to most intelligent people.
man your ignorant
Most intelligent people can take the time to research instead of using ignorance you will find lots of information on marriage going on waay before the bible was even written as well as over 600+ years of gay unions in literature as well as in history (msnnbc just did an article about gay unions in history) it's nothing new it's been going on for centuries all over the world.
this empty brain's qoute on anarchy isn't anything new either, it was said when Woman and African Americans were granted equal rights and again when we could interracial marry , no anarchy then no anarchy now.
DC's bill on marriage should be passed country wide, freedom for consenting adults to marry with full rights and benefits of marriage and seperation of church and state which means the goverment cannot force any church to perfrom any same s-ex ceremony when church does not want too, meaning the church doesn't have too if it chooses not too, if there against it and what not. Live and let live
LOL, my intelligence is the topic again. Seems that every time someone uses rhetoric to make aqn unsubstianted claim, there is a helping hand to claim that asking for the facts is lazy. Info, Frank made a claim that neither you nor he backs up with FACTS!!!!! There is a lot, is not fact. The rest of your speech is not my concern. I asked Frank to reply. So stop butting in. Show me you can find the references that Frank and I can't. Or face the fact that you are not too bright. Your opinions of what SHOULD be, are voted on too. No way you get to choose. Racial equality is still a useless comparison.
Earnest Lee Saddened
There are marriage laws in Hammurabi’s Code written around 1790 B.C., whereas the latest reliable date for the writing of the Pentateuch is about 1450 B.C., and the marriages amongst the Hebrews were typically polygamous.
@Earnest Lee Saddened
You said: "LOL, my intelligence is the topic again."
No, it's your lack of it that is the topic again.
Fact: There is no evidence your god exists.
Fact: Your bible was written and edited by men with an agenda. There is no reason to assume it holds any truth.
Fact: Adam and Eve never existed
Fact: Religions don't hold a monopoly on "marriage"
Fact: The US has freedom of religion. That includes my freedom from your religion.
Fact: Denying people equal rights based solely on your bronze age myths is bigotry.
"Earnest Lee Saddened
LOL, my intelligence is the topic again. Seems that every time someone uses rhetoric to make aqn unsubstianted claim, there is a helping hand to claim that asking for the facts is lazy. Info, Frank made a claim that neither you nor he backs up with FACTS!!!!!"
sorry your wrong there, if you actually took the time to read my comment I gave you a place to look for facts (msnbc just did an article on gay unions in history) your telling me you can't take 2mins and Google it? you should know cnn does not allow links or i would gladly post the article for you to read as well as another from randomhistory which also goes through gay unions in history there are facts if you take the time to look them up and research instead of relying on ignorance and bigotry.
Free said it best about the history of marriage, marriage has also been redefined time and time again in history as society seems fit.
"Racial equality is still a useless comparison."
sorry you got it wrong again why are you only looking at skin color and not the issue?, you see the majority cannot vote against the minority so it is not useless comparison you obviously couldn't figure it it's much bigger then that.
Each time the majority was against freeing slaves, Woman and African Americans equal civil rights ,and again on interracial marriage, if the majority had there way then none of those rights or freedoms would be granted , each time each issue was granted idiots like this football player claim anarchy and chaos, fire and brimstone if we allowed or accepted it. This is nothing new just another case of history repeating itself.
LinCA said it best "it's your lack of it that is the topic again"
Lin, faith is not a matter of facts. you don't impress me with your comments.
Info, I don't do your homework. If you can't distill and present facts, REAL facts, not Lin styled decisions, then stop bothering me.
"Lin, faith is not a matter of facts."
Oh god, I lol'd. "I don't need your pesky "facts." I'm religious."
Wasn't it Mark Twain who said something like "Never let the facts get in the way of a good story"?
I think most of us can agree that religions are all based on 'good' stories.
@Earnest Lee Saddened
You said: "faith is not a matter of facts. you don't impress me with your comments."
It is abundantly clear that faith is not a matter of fact(s), but thanks for confirming that for us. To have faith you actually have to willfully ignore facts.
There is equal evidence for the existence of the Tooth Fairy, Santa, The Easter Bunny, Bob the Magical Blue Sock, Pink Unicorns and your god, or any other gods. The theories of their existence have equal merit. All you have to go by is what your parents and other authorities told you when you were growing up.
You base your religion on a book that was written, compiled and edited to push political agendas. There is no credible, independent source that provides support for any of the relevant events, or its main character. It is therefor highly doubtful there is any truth in it. You might as well face it, your religion is merely the song and dance around the blind faith that there is a supernatural being. There is no basis in fact for the assertion that there is a god; any god, let alone yours.
You can believe that nonsense. I couldn't fucking care less. You have the freedom to be an idiot. You have freedom of religion, but so does everyone else. But your freedom of religion ends where someone else's begins. You don't have to marry someone of your own sex. You are free to not exercise your rights, but when you try to deny those rights to others based on fairy tales, you are a bigot.
Oh, and I'm not trying to impress you. If all I do is lampoon your ignorance, bigotry and hate for others to see, that's fine by me.
what a moron !!! looking back Mr Tyree will be thought of as a complete idiot
While you are looking, look back at the line of people waiting to quote you on your opinions too.
guardbear, I agree with you. What does gay marriages have to do with your religion? Why should I have to hide WHO I am because of your belief in a book WRITTEN BY MAN, NOT GOD. I'm a taxpayer the same as the rest of you, I would presume. But yet my taxes goes for paying for your unmarried daughter to have a baby and pays for both of their support. My taxes goes pays for your children's education. My taxes pay for the street on which your CHURCH sits by and your parishioners park on. My taxes are good enough to pay for all your children's problems but I personally can't marry the person I love. Something here is JACKED UP.
This "football hero" who comes out against gay marriage should spend more time working with his own race to stop the "welfare babies" his race seems to produce constantly. Because again MY TAXES pays for those welfare babies, because I'm sure this "football hero" has good enough accountants that he pays minimal taxes. He can take of his OWN RACE PROBLEMS and stay out of mine.
If the religious right would pay attention more to the real problems of the world such as welfare babies, hunger, teen pregnacies, and all the other ills brought on by STRAIGHT PEOPLE then they wouldn't have time to worry about gay marriages.
Can I assume this is the racist slant? Or can you clear up my misconception? (pun may be larger in some mirrors)
The real truth, government should have no say in any marriage. It should be up to religious leaders. There is a reason for separation of church and state. Also to say that gay marriage would create anarchy is complete bull from a delusional fool.
Sorry, sorry, but gay marriage is an oxymoron. A marriage is based on Adam and Eve. No state can call a gay union a marriage. That word has been used for far too long. As far as civil rights, 90 % of American States say no, and once California gets that GAY judge overturned, it will be 92% again. May freedom ring, by every VOTE!!!!!
Completely agree. Beyond regulating a contract, i.e. a civil union, the State should not be engaging in defining what is and what isn't an appropriate relationship between consenting adults.
@Earnest – I believe Sorry was conceding the religious nature of "marriage" and stating that as a religious inst-tution, the State simply shouldn't be involved in defining it. However, as civil unions are simply a type of legally-binding contract affording specific rights and responsibilities, this is the proper area in which the State should exercise regulatory power with deference to the full power of the equal protections afforded by our Const-tution.
Q, just clearing up the rationality of calling the service a marriage. It never was one, it should never have to be one. I would be happy if the whole "pass on your legacy" and "I want to share my health plan" was fixed so the word WED was not needed.
My BFF insurance and health plan. Any 2 could share the costs. Save a few bucks. July enrollment, yer stuck for a year. Or grandfather the length of time the state requires before a divorce can be applied for to break the plan. Make it feel like yer stuck with each other without the oaths.
Why does anyone care about what this doofus thinks about anything? He wasn't even good enough at football to be relevant.
What he doesn't understand is that marriage has been re-defined before... or do we still practice the right of "first night"?
Interracial marriage use to be illegal throughout the nation too, and for many of the same reasons.
fimeilleur
What he doesn't understand is that marriage has been re-defined before... or do we still practice the right of "first night"?
WHAAAAAAAAAAAT? Got a detail or two?
Free, stop the weak association to racism. It is inappropriate to claim that Adam and Eve of varying races is akin to two men of any race making mud in a back door.
Earnest Lee Saddened
"making mud in a back door."
Charming!
Racial equality is nothing like gender equality either. None of the fights for equality are the same. If there were then there would be no need for consciousness raising, would there?
FREE!!!!!! I did not ask your opinion or invite you into my chat. Learn to speak when you are spoken to. Nice you can do a 180 on your other intrusive comment. Now hush. When I ask you a question, that means I am interested.
Earnest Lee Saddened
I was responding to your post:
"Free, stop the weak association to racism. It is inappropriate to claim that Adam and Eve of varying races is akin to two men of any race making mud in a back door."
Now, you can avoid answering my questions if you like, but you should really try to get over yourself.
Free,
Free
Earnest Lee Saddened
I was responding to your post:
"Free, stop the weak association to racism. It is inappropriate to claim that Adam and Eve of varying races is akin to two men of any race making mud in a back door."
Now, you can avoid answering my questions if you like, but you should really try to get over yourself.
As should you get over your notion you can interrupt me.
You seem to think you can demand peoples attention. Go away with your ego.
Earnest Lee Saddened
Check the tread, buddy. You butted in on my reply to fimeilleur. Now, seriously, get over yourself.
@Earnest Lee Saddened
"FREE!!!!!! I did not ask your opinion or invite you into my chat. Learn to speak when you are spoken to. Nice you can do a 180 on your other intrusive comment. Now hush. When I ask you a question, that means I am interested."
if you don't want people to comment on your nonsense, you shouldn't post on a public blog where we are free to comment on and to whoever we want, if don't like it, go comment on a private blog. Apparently you are interested since you took the time to comment anyway.
To end this, fimeilleur has decided to not reply. As for the rest of the comments made to me, tata, you won't respond to what I said, I see no question asked of free and the helper, info is not getting anything.
Note to self: if being interviewed on CNN by Kyra Phillips, expect her to not recognize the Bible as being as authoritative a work as a university survey; expect to be hammered for expressing a personal belief in Biblical law. David Tyree conducted himself in a much more professional manner than did Ms. Phillips. He was polite, and had the courage to express his beliefs on an issue which he obviously feels to be of importance to our society.
Nobody should refer to the Bible as an authorative work... too many contradictions and women are too often refered to as property...
Well said Ann. Nothing more clever for a well scripted reporter than to have a theological discussion with a football player. Who would have known what limits to hold to on such questions, as well as his probable lack of ease discussing the topic with a woman. I loved the closing fallback stunner question about how he could disagree with his friends. Really germaine to the issue.
I wouldn't put much stock into fimelliurs opinions as far as the Bibles worth is concerned. I doubt he has a line of people asking for his quotes.
We have been given the gift of free will. Using that gift we have the responsibility to seek the truth. In studying the Bible I have found it to be truthful and steadfast. I have not found it to be contradictory.
Ann
Try this basic list of biblical contradictions for starters. Then try some high criticism on for size.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html
Ann.... in the " truth of the bible" what exactly did it tell us that humans did not already know?
@Ann
Being polite in an interview does take away from the fact that he is a bigot and an idiot. Claiming that anarchy will ensue if gays are afforded equal right is absurd and reprehensible. Discriminating based on your religion shows 2 things. First that you don't have a clue about the US constitution, and second that religion is despicable.
The issue is important in our society. And the sooner we can get these archaic beliefs eradicated, and afford equal rights to everyone, the better off we'll be.
There are millions of people who agree with this man, you know freedom of speech and the ability to have your own beliefs is part of our liberties as americans, but of course its only ok to have your own beliefs if they are the same as others or what they think your beliefs should be. He is either damned if he does or damned if he doesnt, if he supports gay marriage he will be attacked by those who dont and if he doesnt support it he is attacked by those who do, i give the man congrats for having the balls to stand up for what he believes in