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Michele Bachmann, evangelical feminist?
June 27th, 2011
06:09 PM ET

Michele Bachmann, evangelical feminist?

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - If Hillary Clinton, the woman who came closest to becoming a major party presidential nominee, is a feminist icon, could something similar be said of Michele Bachmann, who officially launched her presidential campaign on Monday?

Bachmann is seldom described in those terms; the conservative Minnesota congresswoman and Tea Party darling might cringe at the feminist label.

But some religion and politics experts say that she exemplifies an evangelical feminism that is producing more female leaders in Christian nonprofits, businesses, and education and politics, even as more traditional gender roles prevail in evangelical homes and churches.

“It’s not that evangelical feminism is entirely new,” says R. Marie Griffith, director of the John C. Danforth Center on Religion & Politics at Washington University in St. Louis. “But this lack of fear going into top positions of power is new and astonishing and exciting for this segment of the population.”

Though evangelical women have long been involved in political activism, including helping to lead the temperance movement and campaigning for and against women's right to vote, seeking the White House is a more recent and dramatic step.

“It’s a trend that was started by Sarah Palin,” Griffith said, referring to the former Alaska governor, who was the Republican vice presidential nominee in 2008.

D. Michael Lindsay, a scholar who has studied evangelical leaders, says that evangelical feminism largely followed the trend in secular feminism, even if it was delayed by a decade or so.

“Evangelicals are not traditionally the innovators in gender roles, so they’re not going to be at the vanguard,” says Lindsay, who was recently appointed president at Gordon College and who wrote the book Faith in the Halls of Power. “But they also don’t trail too far behind.”

Lindsay says that evangelical feminism took off in the 1980s, pointing to Ronald Reagan tapping Elizabeth Dole, a Christian with strong connections in the evangelical world, to be his secretary of transportation as one example.

George W. Bush, meanwhile, appointed evangelical women to top roles in his presidential administration, including Karen Hughes as a top adviser and Condoleezza Rice as secretary of state.

At the same time, there are distinctions between evangelical and secular feminism. Many female evangelical leaders, for instance, talk of being called by God to pursue professional careers.

“This idea of women being out in the world when they’re doing God’s work – that’s the key,” says Griffith, who is author of God's Daughters: Evangelical Women and the Power of Submission. “You have to be called.”

Bachmann, an evangelical Lutheran, has talked of being called to run for president.

“When I pray, I pray believing that God will speak to me and give me an answer to that prayer, and so that’s what a calling is,” she told CBS News on Sunday, explaining that she had prayed about her decision to seek the presidency. “If I pray, a calling means that I have a sense from God which direction I’m supposed to go.”

Another difference between some evangelical and secular feminists is a public emphasis on motherhood. Bachmann’s political identity is constructed largely around her role as a mother of five kids and her experience of taking in 23 foster children.

Palin, who was raised in the Pentecostal tradition, has also emphasized her role as mother, frequently discussing her children and famously using the term “mama grizzlies” to describe female political candidates for whom she campaigns.

Lindsay says that the motherhood angle could be refreshing to evangelical voters, who constitute a majority of the Republican electorate in early states like Iowa and South Carolina.

“A lot of male evangelical politicians have trumpeted family values, but we’ve seen time after time how many break their marriage vows and have tense relationships with their kids,” he says.

“When you’re the mother of four or five kids up there talking about how their commitment to politics stems from your commitment to kids, which is true for both Palin and Bachmann, that resonates with people who are skeptical of American politics.”

The emphasis that some women evangelical leaders place on motherhood appears to be connected to women taking on more prominent roles in the antiabortion movement, which is closely tied to the evangelical subculture.

“There were a lot of women who were representing the old guard abortion center feminism and there were very few pro-life women who were credentialed in state legislatures and running at the federal level,” says Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the antiabortion group Susan B. Anthony List, describing the organization’s founding 20 years ago.

Dannenfelser’s group works to elect women candidates who oppose abortion rights, raising roughly $11 million in the 2010 election cycle.

“The constant line from Jane Fonda and Barbara Boxer on abortion was ‘You can’t possibly know how a woman feels - how dare you speak on an issue you have no knowledge of,'” says Dannenfelser, referring to the pro-abortion rights actress and U.S. senator.

“Now we have women communicating the truth of the matter, which is that abortion is really destroying a lot of women,” she says.

Though Bachmann is widely considered to be a long shot for the GOP nomination, a weekend poll from The Des Moines Register had her running second only to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney among likely Republican caucus-goers, with 22% support.

Even as more evangelical women pursue top jobs in politics, there is little sign that they will be invited into similar roles in evangelical churches, which continue to be led by men, with some exceptions. Some evangelical denominations, including Southern Baptists, have recently moved to put more restrictions on women serving as pastors.

“It seems to me that most evangelical congregations make a sharp divide between the sacred and secular realms,” says Lindsay, “so that church is the last context where you’ll see women in ordained roles.”

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  1. gurleegirl

    Michele Bachmann is illiterate. Regardless of your beliefs, this woman is not where you want to hang your hopes.

    June 27, 2011 at 7:07 pm |
    • someguy

      You need to check your facts, little girl. She'd run intellectual circles around someone like .. oh, I don't know ... Joe Biden.

      June 27, 2011 at 8:41 pm |
    • Taiping

      Joe Biden is actually pretty smart. That doesn't keep him from saying the occasional bad attempt at a joke, but I'm confident he could out-debate Bachmann easily.

      June 27, 2011 at 9:29 pm |
    • bailoutsos

      Listened to a part of her speech and it was intriguing how she threw god's name in there with all the rest. Sounded like an Oscar winner or Miss America speech.

      June 27, 2011 at 10:52 pm |
    • Andacar

      someguy, what "intellectual" qualities do you attribute to Bachman besides perhaps fanaticism, paranoia and ignorance?

      June 28, 2011 at 12:15 am |
    • Jesus

      Christian feminist??? That's like calling me a God fearing atheist. Christian feminist is an oxymoron.

      June 28, 2011 at 9:26 am |
    • C

      It's funny how people with differing viewpoints are always illiterate, idiots, stupid, morons, etc... independent of education.

      Palin and Bachman have polar opposite education experiences, yet they are both illiterate, idiots, stupid, morons, etc.

      Bachman has a J.D. and an LLM. She's a lawyer just like Obama.

      June 28, 2011 at 10:00 am |
    • derp

      "Bachman has a J.D. and an LLM. She's a lawyer just like Obama"

      Bachmann = Winona State, Oral Roberts and William & Mary LLW and JD

      Palin = 5 different colleges and BS in bs.

      Obama = Columbia and Harvard Law. President of the Harvard Law Review.

      There is no intellectual comparison between Bachmann and Obama. She seems reasonably smart, but nowhere near Obama's level. She is far nuttier than she is brilliant. Newt Gingrich is probably the smartest of the GOP field. Like Bill Clinton, he is a brilliant political mind but his past is far to much to overcome.

      To consider Sarah Palin as anything more than a shrieking nitwit is simply absurd.

      June 28, 2011 at 10:44 am |
    • Kelly

      Hey gurleegirl....you Vice President is an IDIOT

      June 28, 2011 at 10:45 am |
    • derp

      "Hey gurleegirl....you Vice President is an IDIOT"

      you Vice President?

      DUH, FAIL!!

      June 28, 2011 at 11:07 am |
    • Tim

      I agree. We've been stuck with this dingbat in MN 6 for several years now and she has NEVER authored anything that made it even close to the floor of the House. We've watched her shenanigans in the State House where most people really didn't take her seriously, but she found her support in MN 6 which is absolutely unmovable. Otherwise, she'd just be a mom in a conservative district.
      She may have some following among caucus voters in rural Iowa, but in the urban parts of the country she'll wither like a leaf in a MN winter. Just try paying some REAL attention to what dingy says (we call her dingy behind her back). Same as Palin...always on the attack, never offering any meaningful ideas. Why? Because she doesn't have any! It's a lost easier to criticize using empty-headed sarcasm and mindless innuendo as opposed to providing real solutions to the country's problems.

      June 28, 2011 at 11:30 am |
    • bam

      no clue why she is being compared to Hilary.
      Hilary is educated this women is not. they dont compare.

      June 28, 2011 at 11:43 am |
    • bailoutsos

      They also renamed the airport in Orange County, CA to John Wayne Gacy Airport.

      June 28, 2011 at 3:09 pm |
    • Greg Messenger

      Evangelical Feminist is a contradiction. First I was going to say it is an oxymoron, but no, this is an absolute contradiction. Perhaps if an atheist feminist is hell-bent to preach feminism to others, then perhaps the term makes sense. Bachmann appears to me to be more of a feminine evangelical, and there is CLEARLY a difference between an evangelical and a feminist. They are not, nor could they ever be one and the same.

      June 28, 2011 at 4:19 pm |
  2. The skeptic

    Why do we need an election if, according to Michele Baqchmann, God shall decide whether she will win or loose the election.

    June 27, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
    • airwx

      A slight correction....Bachman stated she had a "call" to run. Far different meaning....and that "call" didn't seem to mention winning

      June 27, 2011 at 7:25 pm |
    • bailoutsos

      airwx A slight correction....Bachman stated she had a "call" to run. --– God dialed the wrong number.

      June 27, 2011 at 10:55 pm |
    • SirThomas

      Palin said the same thing. God made his decison... now why won't Palin just GO AWAY. LOL.

      June 27, 2011 at 11:34 pm |
    • Jesus

      How about a Palin-Bachmann ticket? Their slogan would be, "God asked us to run...otherwise we'd be home baking cookies for the Church social".

      June 28, 2011 at 9:32 am |
  3. maxdenn

    I'm speaking just for myself of course. Mrs. Bachmann's politics does in no way fit into my picture of what Christ was all about. The things this woman says and promotes seems to be quite the opposite in my view of Christianity. Unlike many evangelicals though, I don't profess to have a lock on interpreting the teachings of Jesus.

    June 27, 2011 at 7:05 pm |
    • Jesus

      Actally if you closely examine Jesus in the Bible, you have a person who would be much more comfortable in a socialist country with a government run healthcare system.

      June 28, 2011 at 9:35 am |
    • C

      If you closely examine Jesus in the Bible, he always stressed personal responsibility for your choices and trust in God, rather than blaming others and trust in man and government. Not sure what Bible your were reading...

      June 28, 2011 at 9:48 am |
    • derp

      "If you closely examine Jesus in the Bible, he always stressed personal responsibility for your choices and trust in God, rather than blaming others and trust in man and government"

      I missed the part of the bible where Jesus told us not to trust government. I guess I was busy reading the stuff about helping the needy, caring for the sick, and loving my enemies.

      Could you cite the passages where Jesus tells us to not trust the government? I'd like to go back and read them .

      June 28, 2011 at 10:48 am |
  4. femfilly

    Please keep your religious beliefs out of my government. Thanks.

    June 27, 2011 at 7:02 pm |
    • GOP hypocrisy

      Bible thumber feminist! That's the first! I want my rib back!

      June 28, 2011 at 9:12 am |
    • C

      That's what Mao said before killing millions

      June 28, 2011 at 9:37 am |
    • Ryan

      C: show me proof that mao killed in the name of secularism, and I might take you seriously

      June 28, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
  5. Doug

    We as a people and nation have had to fight long and hard for the rights we so richly deserve.. That said, voting to a wench like this woman or Sarah Palin will put the gay community back a hundred years.. These religious nuts with their beliefs ( man in the sky , walk on water, the list goes on and on ) are not what this country needs.. We need people who believe in the human spirit, the right to live and be free without being judged by idiots that just don't get it.. I reject this hater, that is what she is, that is what she will stand for, and if you support her you are no better..

    June 27, 2011 at 7:01 pm |
    • CatholicMom

      Doug,
      Michelle Bachmann has compassion for people, especially children who need a loving family. How many people are as willing to open their home to strangers so others could have a chance at living in a home where there is love and stability?

      June 27, 2011 at 9:01 pm |
    • Taiping

      CatholicMom
      Then let her go back to raising kids if that's what she's good at. Raising kids is not running a country with hundreds of different important issues that will affect more than a few kids under her control. Running a country is very different.

      June 27, 2011 at 9:32 pm |
    • GOP hypocrisy

      Taiping right on. Bacjmann collects kids like some Angelina Jolie wanna be. Her nutbag cousin Sarah Palin could use Trig as car hood ornament, if that brought more votes....

      June 28, 2011 at 9:14 am |
    • Reagan

      Gay people should be put back a million years......its a stain and sickness on humanity....

      June 28, 2011 at 12:16 pm |
  6. Jimbo

    The Tea Party is a farce. It started as a Libertarian grass roots organization and was taken over by religious nuts without the invite. We had a chance to unite Libertarians with Republicans but that was all ruined when the zealots came in with their hair brained ideas.

    June 27, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
    • Jesus

      The evangelical social agenda dominated the GOP since the 1980s. Now it is THE primary objective of the GOP. The GOP forgot their roots of a balanced budget and getting the government out of our bedroom and life. It's not my GOP anymore. I will vote GOP when one of their candidates, JUST LIKE GOLDWATER DID in 1964, tells the religious wing of the party, "Get those nuts away fro me".

      June 28, 2011 at 11:01 am |
  7. nawor

    you can't be an evangelical christian and a feminist. nope nope nope.

    June 27, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
    • GOP hypocrisy

      I know! It's like being a "black eskimo"

      June 28, 2011 at 9:15 am |
    • Jesus

      It's an oxymoron.

      June 28, 2011 at 9:42 am |
    • derp

      Like a feminist muslim?

      June 28, 2011 at 10:50 am |
    • Sean

      That is the great thing about modern religion; you just pick and choose what parts are convenient to follow. We call it hypocrisy, something Christians excel at.

      June 28, 2011 at 12:18 pm |
  8. How R u?

    @airwx....Sorry then those woman are not true Christians....the bible should not be taken out of context to suit ones needs if they truly are a believer. In all actuality they do not want to just accept death and seeing as they grew up Christians that is what they believe are...It is no different then a Muslim woman not following the religious customs and being persecuted as a non-Muslim.
    Which is a good thing cause religion is bumpkin anyways. All hail free speech and free minds.

    June 27, 2011 at 6:58 pm |
    • JesusisLord

      The only way to be free is to serve Christ. Everything else is slavery to the d e v i l.

      June 27, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
    • How R u?

      Shouldn't you being burning a witch or something? Your mindset is slowly but surely dieing out. Evolution displaces your belief. Deal with it.

      June 27, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
    • airwx

      Then my friend you apply a double standard.... faith is a living thing and changes. The women I know (both progressive and conservative) prove it by their actions.
      If you believe that people are Christian because of a fear of death, then you will never understand the foundation of our faith.

      June 27, 2011 at 7:16 pm |
    • Atheist2

      Then why "MY FRIEND" is John 3:16 just about the most quoted Bible passage?

      June 27, 2011 at 8:35 pm |
    • CatholicMom

      Atheist2,
      You might ask... why John 3:16 is not exactly the same in every Bible….with that said, ‘which version of John 3:16’ are you referring to?

      June 27, 2011 at 9:06 pm |
    • Sean

      @CathMom

      lol you are not helping your case.

      June 28, 2011 at 12:21 pm |
  9. JesusisLord

    If anyone out there has not met Christ, please do so now. Should you leave this life without Him, you face an eternity below in unspeakable agony. The reason? Sin. You're a sinner and without His atonement you'll face an unyielding Judge who will cast you out of His sight. It doesn't have to be that way, though. He forgives anyone willing to admit they're wrong, and follow Him.

    June 27, 2011 at 6:55 pm |
    • tommas

      Do you mean he ll, the idea stolen by the jews from Iran.

      June 27, 2011 at 6:57 pm |
    • Doug

      Everything you stand for is fear... That is awful... Please don't have children.. We don't need more haters on this planet.. Get a grip !!!!!

      June 27, 2011 at 7:04 pm |
    • wrack

      I suppose you and I will just have to agree to disagree and go on feeling sorry for one another.

      June 27, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
    • Truth in your Face

      Read the book, the movie was better. So, which Jesus is yours? Because there are literally 25 or more "Christian" versions published. Which one is yours, I kinda need to know, so I have a basis to mock you.

      June 27, 2011 at 7:07 pm |
    • Hal Fishman

      Keep religion out of everything, it only causes problems. If I am a good person I do not have to recognize jesus or the bible. If you want to be religious go for yours, just do not push it on the rest of us. Separation of church and state.

      June 27, 2011 at 7:09 pm |
    • How R u?

      Below what? Haha do you truly believe the clouds are heaven and the core of the earth is still hell? Sorry junior your religion is soon to be greatly considered mythology. Hell, Aliens being our creators makes more sense then your religion.

      June 27, 2011 at 7:09 pm |
    • airwx

      @ Truth... there are billions of versions out there... one for every Christian who ever lived. One for every person who tried to understand it for themselves. Mock all you want....doesn't affect me in the least. Just remember that atheism is fast disappearing in Europe; being supplanted by Paganism.

      June 27, 2011 at 7:22 pm |
    • airwx

      @ HowRu... Ok... I see the problem...sometime when you have 2 days to understand what the first chapter of Genesis REALLY says... let me know....it isn't what 99% of Christians think...

      June 27, 2011 at 7:28 pm |
    • Pyrrho

      I would do that but then I would go to Islam hell. I guess it's one hell or the other.

      June 27, 2011 at 7:47 pm |
    • Atheist2

      JesusisLord is still with us? I was hoping you'd be gone last May 21st.

      June 27, 2011 at 8:38 pm |
    • Jay Simon

      You are out of your mind.

      June 27, 2011 at 10:43 pm |
    • SirThomas

      Oh.. shut up! You make all people who believe in God and Christ look like idiots. But I guess you have a right to your free speech. The rest of us have the right to laugh at you. And I can see Jesus now... head tilted down a little... small smile on his face... a little laugh.. he loves you.. but thinks you are silly... I believe in God and Christ but never push that mumbo jumbo you protest to.. most people don't. The bible was written what.. 300 years after Christ died? By a bunch of guys that didn't even know him. And religion (yes, it is different that faith and belief) was created by the devil to make people kill each other (see news from the Middle East). Now chew on that a while.. My.. this is fun...

      June 27, 2011 at 11:43 pm |
    • Jesus

      Nah, I'm a good guy. I don't harbor any guilt for those innocuous things we all do in life. Apparently many do and they are prey for the religion charlatans and hucksters out there. I will NOT buy into your guilt trip. Without that prerequisite, the Christian "died for your sins" game is without any relevance.

      June 28, 2011 at 9:47 am |
    • steven harnack

      I've always loved that part where your loving god sends me to be tortured for eternity. And you say that you're not a christian out of fear?

      June 28, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
  10. HeadOutOfThe$and

    I wish I hadn't wasted my time reading this..She is a sensationalist media puppet.
    I'm going to attempt to make something positive out of it... Please read up on Ron Paul America..OUR countries economic security depends on people with his logic ..I have no religious convictions, and am pro-choice( choice meaning don't have an abortion if you feel its wrong, do if you don't feel it's wrong). that said, I would STILL VOTE for Ron Paul. Ron Paul is a devote christian with proud pro choice beliefs. I am willing to put up with some difference in beliefs for the 4-8 years of help he will bring to this country...Ron Paul doesn't exude the political charisma as well as others yes, but please read up on him. What he has to say and thinks we should do is very important.. PLEASE LOOK UP RON PAUL!!!

    June 27, 2011 at 6:55 pm |
    • HeadOutOfThe$and

      Correction..RON PAUL is Pro-LIFE, and I would still Vote for him despite or differences...He can save this country my fellow Americans..open your eyes.. RON Paul 2008.....If your bored after reading about RON PAUL 2012 check out Borealis Web cams in Alaska!! http://www.borealisbroadband.net/webcamultiview.htm. Alaskans for RON PAUL!!!

      June 27, 2011 at 6:58 pm |
    • JesusisLord

      Perhaps Bachmann – Paul on the ticket.

      June 27, 2011 at 6:59 pm |
    • HeadOutOfThe$and

      !RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2012!

      June 27, 2011 at 7:01 pm |
    • Doug

      Wow... another one that just doesn't get it.. It's all about you isn't it ?

      June 27, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
    • Atheist2

      No JesusisLord, Bachmann-Santorum: "There's no such thing as global warming."

      June 27, 2011 at 8:41 pm |
  11. SMB

    Excuse me a what? Isn't that an oxymoron, or in this case just a regular moron 😉

    June 27, 2011 at 6:48 pm |
    • Atheist2

      It's an anaerobic oxymoron.

      June 27, 2011 at 8:42 pm |
    • GOP hypocrisy

      ^ this!

      June 28, 2011 at 9:15 am |
    • Jesus

      When confronted with that reality, Bachmann replied, "All oxen are animals and the Lord made them without intelligence".

      June 28, 2011 at 9:49 am |
  12. Jeff

    When my wife sees Bachman or Palin flapping their traps unintelligibly on TV she says they are hurting other women's hard work to be taken seriously in government. To be fair though, she said she would also never vote for a self-proclaimed evangelist whether they are men or women.

    June 27, 2011 at 6:48 pm |
    • tlama

      And Jeff wins by a nose....good job CNN and Jeff. Already you try to slander this woman the way Palin was 2 years ago. Funny how this entire article is manufactured to link Palin to Bachmann.

      June 27, 2011 at 7:04 pm |
    • GOP hypocrisy

      How can you not link two morons with the same cause? Does it take a Glenn Beck and a chalkboard?

      June 28, 2011 at 9:17 am |
  13. vel

    I've always wondered about women and Christianity. how can you accept a religion that tells you you can't dare teach a male anything and must remain silent in church? Why accept such an ignorant primitive religion? And how can such good Christians accept a woman president? Surely no real Christian would accept this, thanks to Paul and his exhortations agaisnt women being considered the equals that Jesus saw them as. Of course, most Christians just pick and choose what they want to make believe God "really said". So we have women wearing jewelry in church and daring to cut their hair too.

    June 27, 2011 at 6:48 pm |
    • JesusisLord

      Women play vitally important roles in my church, as they did when Christ was here.

      June 27, 2011 at 6:57 pm |
    • nohyperbole

      Vel...To be blunt, you're ignorance is overwhelming. In the 40+ years that I have been attending evangelical services, I have never been to, nor heard of any evangelical christian church that has sought to silence women. Moreover, this notion that christian men believe women to be inferior is ridiculous. There is not one single bible verse in which man is said to be superior over women. The verses dealing with marriage are not applicable–they deal with the marriage relationship only–and I'm not going but that set of verses in context for you–I'm sure you can read them for yourself (just, please read them in the entire context in which they are intended). If a woman wants to be president, I challenge any christian to find the verse that says that is a sin–it just isn't there. I won't vote for Bachman (or Palin if she runs), but there isn't any reason from a christian perspective why she can't be president.

      June 27, 2011 at 7:04 pm |
    • rigel54

      @nohyperbole: I have direct knowledge of one, and have heard of numerous other fundamentalist churches that do just that (silence and subordinate women).

      I didn't know Jesus came here? I didn't know he even ever left Israel/Palestine.

      June 27, 2011 at 11:30 pm |
    • Mike

      1 Corinthians 14:
      34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.

      1 Timothy 2:
      11 A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women[c] will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

      June 28, 2011 at 11:16 am |
    • tuffgong71

      "...thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.",
      "If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days...But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks...",
      "And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver."

      June 28, 2011 at 4:07 pm |
  14. Robert

    At this point I think it would be a tremendous service to the greater global community and human race for CNN.com to shut down these pointless comments fields.

    June 27, 2011 at 6:47 pm |
    • rigel54

      You're here, Robert, and you're commenting.

      June 27, 2011 at 11:31 pm |
  15. Baruch

    Feminist? What a laugh. Female yes, feminist no. Hey CNN why are you giving this idiot so much coverage? Really...Bachmann is either playing a very manipulative game or she is truly an idiot. She seems to me to be like a female GWB. Stupid, mean, privileged, deeply unaware, lacking in empathy...enough already with sociopaths in government!

    June 27, 2011 at 6:46 pm |
    • Taiping

      like

      June 27, 2011 at 9:36 pm |
    • Debbie

      All I know is Bachmann is an idiot just like Palin. I love how all these republicans claim to be such good christians and yet they do nothing christian like, in fact I always say "WWJD"

      June 28, 2011 at 12:03 am |
    • GOP hypocrisy

      JWNVR – Jesus Would Not Vote Republican!

      June 28, 2011 at 9:18 am |
  16. Barf

    Religious populism is detrimental to democracy. We are a nation built from foundational principles, these principles are based in logic, reason, and equality.

    The bible is based off of the interpretation of every day life by nomadic bronze aged tribesmen. It has no place in our government.

    June 27, 2011 at 6:45 pm |
    • airwx

      Actually, the Bible includes much of the Iron Age. The New Testament time frame is after Euclid, Pathagoras and others brought higher math into our world. Metalurgy that was developed in that period is still used today.

      And to be truthful, many of our founding fathers were more concerned with not paying taxes than they were "Foundational Principles". Equality? Talk about that with the slaves of the time or Native Americans.

      June 27, 2011 at 6:55 pm |
    • How R u?

      Yet it doesn't even include Dinosaurs or Neanderthals! Both proven to have existed! C'mon man the bible is obviously fraudulently as it has been proven to contain countless falsehoods...10,000 Years only right...Try billions. We will be laughed at and mocked in 100 years for electing these religious zealots.

      June 27, 2011 at 7:04 pm |
    • airwx

      @ HowRu The translation of the first chapter of Genesis does not mention a 6000 or ten thousand year timeframe... that is a translation error caused by the word YOM in Hebrew. Yom can have two meanings... a 24 hour day or an indefinite period of time. If you had any clue how to translate for yourself you would have learned this and many other important lessons that are not being taught in church.

      June 27, 2011 at 7:38 pm |
    • Atheist2

      Arwx: A unit of time that is "an indefinite period of time", even if NIST-traceable, is kind-of a useless measure. I suppose you believe that the biblical mention of serpents scooped Watson and Crick?

      June 27, 2011 at 8:49 pm |
  17. JustPlainJoe

    Another intellectually challenged zealot! Ahhh.. American Politics at its best.

    June 27, 2011 at 6:42 pm |
  18. NVJoeyOR

    Ugh – let's not get carried away nominally categorizing this person. She has her own agenda and will stick to her political advantages, regardless of what the hermeneutics of an "evangelical feminist perspective" might lead the masses to think.

    June 27, 2011 at 6:39 pm |
  19. tommas

    "evangelical feminist" = Oxymoron... do christian women even read the bible?

    June 27, 2011 at 6:18 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      I know many Christian women that read the Bible...what's your point?

      June 27, 2011 at 6:21 pm |
    • How Low Do You Have To Stoop To Be A Conservative These Days?

      Bachmann isn't just an oxymoron – she's a full-fledged moron without limitation.

      June 27, 2011 at 6:29 pm |
    • Ted M.

      The Christian Bible is a misogynistic book. Any feminist worth the name would, in my opinion, avoid any Bible-based thinking in the first place.

      June 27, 2011 at 6:31 pm |
    • edvhou812

      Yes. I've met several that have read it.

      June 27, 2011 at 6:35 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @Ted- I guess you haven't read much on Jael, Deborah, Esther, Abigail or Priscilla.

      June 27, 2011 at 6:39 pm |
    • airwx

      @ Ted.... If you are implying that Christianity is not allowed to grow over time then you have applied a double standard, that is, that a "modern" woman would not want to be a Christian. I would rather you ask women of faith who have liberal to progressive thinking why they disagree with you. The ones I know don't like Bachman either, but they would reject your implication as to Christianity.

      June 27, 2011 at 6:41 pm |
    • Ted M.

      -Uncouth Swain-
      I see you did not address the fact that the Bible is a misogynistic book.
      Are you misogynist? If so, then you are not for equal rights for women.
      Equal rights under the law is something every President must enforce.
      We don't need bigots in the White House, we need proper action applied in accordance with our Constltution.
      That means equal rights. No bigots need apply.

      June 27, 2011 at 7:42 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @Ted M.- You have yet shown why the Bible is misogynistic.

      I gave examples of powerful women that are in the Bible. I am sorry your knowledge of the Bible is so limited.

      Cute that you think nobody that must be religious can become President. You bigot!

      June 27, 2011 at 8:37 pm |
    • Taiping

      Jesus was a bigot. Just read the words and look at how many women he picked as one of his twelve apostles.
      He didn't like non-Jews, either. He called them "dogs". In the old days that was a gross insult.

      June 27, 2011 at 9:40 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @Taiping- Umm...no. Maybe if you actually had some references it might help your error filled opinion.

      June 28, 2011 at 3:02 pm |
    • Taiping

      If it was error-filled I would not have said it.
      You just don't like the thought that your own Savior thinks you are not human, not worthy because you are not one of the Chosen Race. Still confident you've got a free seat in Heaven? Ha.

      Sure, call it error-filled if you like, but everyone else knows you're full of crap.

      June 29, 2011 at 7:05 am |
  20. Uncouth Swain

    Dang her head looks big in that picture.

    Anyway, Michele Bachmann does represent a sort of feminism in the US. I don't exactly care for her, but she is bold in what she believes and does. She doesn't cower from opposition. A lot of ppl respect that.

    June 27, 2011 at 6:18 pm |
    • femfilly

      Starting a shouting match does not make you a feminist. Spreading lies and misinformation to further your argument does not make you a feminist. Working to advance women's rights and choices, even if those choices are contrary to your belief system, is feminism. She is doing the opposite. She is imposing her choices on women everywhere. She is trying to cut funding to services that are crucial to women and their families. This is not feminism.

      June 27, 2011 at 7:12 pm |
    • derp

      " I don't exactly care for her, but she is bold in what she believes and does. She doesn't cower from opposition. A lot of ppl respect that"

      Hitler was bold and assertive. Manson believed in what he did. Crazy is not an admirable quality.

      June 29, 2011 at 10:54 am |
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