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Michele Bachmann, evangelical feminist?
June 27th, 2011
06:09 PM ET

Michele Bachmann, evangelical feminist?

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - If Hillary Clinton, the woman who came closest to becoming a major party presidential nominee, is a feminist icon, could something similar be said of Michele Bachmann, who officially launched her presidential campaign on Monday?

Bachmann is seldom described in those terms; the conservative Minnesota congresswoman and Tea Party darling might cringe at the feminist label.

But some religion and politics experts say that she exemplifies an evangelical feminism that is producing more female leaders in Christian nonprofits, businesses, and education and politics, even as more traditional gender roles prevail in evangelical homes and churches.

“It’s not that evangelical feminism is entirely new,” says R. Marie Griffith, director of the John C. Danforth Center on Religion & Politics at Washington University in St. Louis. “But this lack of fear going into top positions of power is new and astonishing and exciting for this segment of the population.”

Though evangelical women have long been involved in political activism, including helping to lead the temperance movement and campaigning for and against women's right to vote, seeking the White House is a more recent and dramatic step.

“It’s a trend that was started by Sarah Palin,” Griffith said, referring to the former Alaska governor, who was the Republican vice presidential nominee in 2008.

D. Michael Lindsay, a scholar who has studied evangelical leaders, says that evangelical feminism largely followed the trend in secular feminism, even if it was delayed by a decade or so.

“Evangelicals are not traditionally the innovators in gender roles, so they’re not going to be at the vanguard,” says Lindsay, who was recently appointed president at Gordon College and who wrote the book Faith in the Halls of Power. “But they also don’t trail too far behind.”

Lindsay says that evangelical feminism took off in the 1980s, pointing to Ronald Reagan tapping Elizabeth Dole, a Christian with strong connections in the evangelical world, to be his secretary of transportation as one example.

George W. Bush, meanwhile, appointed evangelical women to top roles in his presidential administration, including Karen Hughes as a top adviser and Condoleezza Rice as secretary of state.

At the same time, there are distinctions between evangelical and secular feminism. Many female evangelical leaders, for instance, talk of being called by God to pursue professional careers.

“This idea of women being out in the world when they’re doing God’s work – that’s the key,” says Griffith, who is author of God's Daughters: Evangelical Women and the Power of Submission. “You have to be called.”

Bachmann, an evangelical Lutheran, has talked of being called to run for president.

“When I pray, I pray believing that God will speak to me and give me an answer to that prayer, and so that’s what a calling is,” she told CBS News on Sunday, explaining that she had prayed about her decision to seek the presidency. “If I pray, a calling means that I have a sense from God which direction I’m supposed to go.”

Another difference between some evangelical and secular feminists is a public emphasis on motherhood. Bachmann’s political identity is constructed largely around her role as a mother of five kids and her experience of taking in 23 foster children.

Palin, who was raised in the Pentecostal tradition, has also emphasized her role as mother, frequently discussing her children and famously using the term “mama grizzlies” to describe female political candidates for whom she campaigns.

Lindsay says that the motherhood angle could be refreshing to evangelical voters, who constitute a majority of the Republican electorate in early states like Iowa and South Carolina.

“A lot of male evangelical politicians have trumpeted family values, but we’ve seen time after time how many break their marriage vows and have tense relationships with their kids,” he says.

“When you’re the mother of four or five kids up there talking about how their commitment to politics stems from your commitment to kids, which is true for both Palin and Bachmann, that resonates with people who are skeptical of American politics.”

The emphasis that some women evangelical leaders place on motherhood appears to be connected to women taking on more prominent roles in the antiabortion movement, which is closely tied to the evangelical subculture.

“There were a lot of women who were representing the old guard abortion center feminism and there were very few pro-life women who were credentialed in state legislatures and running at the federal level,” says Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the antiabortion group Susan B. Anthony List, describing the organization’s founding 20 years ago.

Dannenfelser’s group works to elect women candidates who oppose abortion rights, raising roughly $11 million in the 2010 election cycle.

“The constant line from Jane Fonda and Barbara Boxer on abortion was ‘You can’t possibly know how a woman feels - how dare you speak on an issue you have no knowledge of,'” says Dannenfelser, referring to the pro-abortion rights actress and U.S. senator.

“Now we have women communicating the truth of the matter, which is that abortion is really destroying a lot of women,” she says.

Though Bachmann is widely considered to be a long shot for the GOP nomination, a weekend poll from The Des Moines Register had her running second only to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney among likely Republican caucus-goers, with 22% support.

Even as more evangelical women pursue top jobs in politics, there is little sign that they will be invited into similar roles in evangelical churches, which continue to be led by men, with some exceptions. Some evangelical denominations, including Southern Baptists, have recently moved to put more restrictions on women serving as pastors.

“It seems to me that most evangelical congregations make a sharp divide between the sacred and secular realms,” says Lindsay, “so that church is the last context where you’ll see women in ordained roles.”

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  1. Doc

    Ms. Bachman's throwing her hat into the ring is no surprise to anyone any more than Mitt Romney doing the same. Ms. Bachman is one of those conservatives that doesn't care what anyone else thinks or says unless it's in agreement with her ideas and agenda. This is the face and mouth of the "ultra conservative" Only their ideas and their philosophy matter. Anyone who doesn't go along with that is wrong or "the enemy". Just like the Bolsheviks in 1917 or the Nazis in 1933, they prefer a one party system of government according to their agenda. ( Oh, by the way. If taxing the rich is so bad and doesn't stimulate job growth, why do we still have such high [9.2%) unemployment? Those Bush tax cuts have been in place for over 4 years. Can someone explain that?)

    June 27, 2011 at 10:05 pm |
    • Debbie

      Doc,
      Those Bush tax cuts have been in effect for about ten years, and we have lost about 600,000 jobs since then. Where are all the jobs that the tax cuts for the rich were supposed to create. You are right about the GOP, if you don't agree with them they call you un-american. I hope everyone watched the speech today fron senator Bernie Sanders, Independent from vermont. It was excellent. He told it like it is. He explained how our country got into the fiscal trouble we're in and what needs to happen to get us out. I hope everyone will check out his speech. Go Bernie, Bernie FOR PRESIDENT 2012

      June 28, 2011 at 1:26 am |
  2. TRH

    "Evangelical Feminist" is still an oxymoron...especially in this twit's case. Don't fooled by this smokescreen. She is what she is...a right-wing conservative i.e. intolerant and dangerous.

    June 27, 2011 at 10:04 pm |
  3. bigdoglv

    Looks like Bachmann will take Palin's place in CNN's daily hit piece.

    June 27, 2011 at 10:03 pm |
  4. TheTRUTH

    This girl... she hasn't got a CLUE... I wouldn't let her run a lemon aid stand

    June 27, 2011 at 9:59 pm |
    • Robert

      Way to spell, buddy. Lemon aid. . . Try lemonade. Something about glass houses. . . Or being without sin. . . Maybe you could use a little evangelizing!

      June 27, 2011 at 10:15 pm |
    • Aarrgghh

      at least he didn't praise John Wayne, the serial killer.....

      June 28, 2011 at 9:39 am |
    • Frogist

      Is it funny that someone comments on this article about Bachmann and feminism and refers to her as a "girl"? No. It's not funny. Ironic, but not funny.

      June 28, 2011 at 5:53 pm |
  5. R in Ohio ...

    I think many of us posting want the same things. We want a healthy economy, social services for our citizens that are in need and a safe place in which to raise our families. All of us as voters get caught up in the political fight, we bash democrats, we bash republicans. The media encourages us to take pot shots at the other side. Instead of antagonizing each other, truly spend some time "DOING" something to help make our country better. I personally dislike having to pick from the narrow pool of candidates at voting time. Its been years since I felt a candidate was qualified as well as a moral and just leader. When we have such a candidate I'll be so ecstatic.

    June 27, 2011 at 9:59 pm |
    • Nocordoba

      Sadly I am to young to run for a political office but actually intend to get in to politics someday and I agree with you the media gets in the way there are ways the sides might agree we don't need this to be a war like it was in Carthage. We want the same thing in general we need more states men who care for the country and less politicians who sway the masses.

      June 27, 2011 at 10:23 pm |
    • Debbie

      It is unfortunate that both sides can't do what the American people elected them to do.

      June 28, 2011 at 1:31 am |
    • Dogbert

      I can't argue that sir.

      June 29, 2011 at 6:20 am |
  6. mike

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    June 27, 2011 at 9:53 pm |
    • heliocracy

      Very, very nice. Best comment I think I've ever seen on here.

      June 27, 2011 at 9:58 pm |
    • Taiping

      You chopped off the top of his head! *another facepalm*

      June 27, 2011 at 10:02 pm |
    • Dobro

      Supercool!

      June 27, 2011 at 10:14 pm |
    • Soccer Mom

      WHOAH!!! coolio!!! Strong statement too.

      June 27, 2011 at 11:34 pm |
  7. Richard Aberdeen

    According to the Old Testament, which conservative Christians like to quote rather than Jesus, God destroyed Sodom because she did not care about her sick and poor (Ezekiel). According to Jesus, who conservative Christians habitually ignore, God will judge the United States and every other nation by how they treat the sick and poor. Anybody can look it up for themselves in Matthew Chapter 25.

    Does this sound like the agenda of conservative Christians, Bauchmann and the Republican Party, to primarly focus on helping the homeless, sick and poor, such as poor migrant workers trying to feed their families, for example, ppor homeless children such as were profiled on 60 Minutes this week and poor homeless veterans? When was the last time Bauchmann proposed how to turn our nation from the wrath of God by using the trillions we throw down the war machine toilet to instead help our homeless, sick and poor?

    What a total load of crap the media wants us to swallow whole !!!

    June 27, 2011 at 9:51 pm |
    • Donodron

      The job of the government shouldn't be to feed the sick and poor. By all means criticize the church if they aren't doing it, but don't criticize Christian politicians, because that's not their job when they are acting as the government.

      June 27, 2011 at 10:00 pm |
    • Nocordoba

      I understand what you are saying and you are correct in many things but there is one thing. the Bible says it is the job of the church and people not state and government to help the poor. it is not the right of the Government to take our money and give it to someone else while slipping some into their wallet. It would help if they cut taxes so we can afford to give even more. Otherwise though the government shouldn't get involved. I am a conservative and at my church the Pastor reads something Jesus said every Sunday as the whole Bible is His word read that in the very first chapter of John and many other places.

      June 27, 2011 at 10:00 pm |
    • Nocordoba

      I agree Donodron

      June 27, 2011 at 10:01 pm |
    • heliocracy

      Agree completely. If Jesus were to appear again today, Bachmann and the GOP would condemn him as a flaming liberal. I think it must have something to do with the con that conservatives have perpetuated on the stupid, that if they talk a lot about "family values," those people won't notice that their real objective is to make sure that the American workforce gets the bare minimum in order to ensure that rich shareholders can continue to reap their millions without lifting a finger. And all the while they call Democrats lazy. As brazen as it is, there's still at least 30% of the population that can't see through it. You'll see some of them writing below in response to this comment...watch and enjoy.

      June 27, 2011 at 10:04 pm |
    • Donodron

      If Jesus were to appear today, I think both parties would hate him.

      June 27, 2011 at 10:07 pm |
    • Lindsey

      Richard: Evangelical churches and churches altogether have done way more good for the poor and elderly than the Federal Government! They just don't brag about it. They also preach about heaven and hell, so a message pertaining to what God did to Sodom is appropriate today just like it was thousands of years ago. Richard, I think you need to attend an evangelical church and see what really goes on before you make judgements. You may also be surprised to find that there are lots of Democrats in these churches. However, don't tell me or any of my thousands of other believers that we are evil! Talk about crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!

      June 27, 2011 at 10:17 pm |
    • Nocordoba

      Lindsey you are right they have done more they just don't brag about it. You are right in what you said.

      June 27, 2011 at 10:26 pm |
    • Aarrgghh

      The ancient book of lies says a lot of really insane things. It is time we stop giving so much credence to fairy tales and adopt some personal responsibility. before we ruin or kill everything in the name of "your" imaginary friends...

      June 28, 2011 at 9:43 am |
    • Frogist

      Is it the place of ONLY the churches to care for the sick and the poor? That's in the Bible? And what kind of logic is it that we defer to the Bible to tell us the role of our secular gov't that is supposed to be there for all the people? There is no justification for demolishing social programs that not only care for people who need it, but also bring in a healthy fiscal return.

      June 28, 2011 at 6:00 pm |
  8. John

    Michele Bachmann has no way of winning , because she a racist and a bigots. And she back by the TEA PARTY with Is nothing but a bunch of racist bigots. every time she open her mouth she lie about something. You think If you was going to use something In a speak you would check and make sure what you are saying Is the truth , JOHN WAYNE wasn't born In Waterloo Iowa. And I'M sure she just like any other Republican, she say what she think you want to hear and LIE about It later. And the other thing Is why does every Republican claim to be a Christian and they are no way close to being one.

    June 27, 2011 at 9:48 pm |
    • Nocordoba

      i will admit many of them don't show forth the fruits of the spirit and definitely don't act like Christians but your comment is worse than what they have said you are insulting someones character and honor and of all persons a woman. Now a days if you don't like somebody you insult them and cuss them out and that is just plain wrong.

      June 27, 2011 at 9:53 pm |
    • bigdoglv

      "And she back by the TEA PARTY with Is nothing but a bunch of racist bigots." And that statement makes you a what?

      June 27, 2011 at 10:01 pm |
    • One last look

      I'm about ready to call it a night.. I really don't like poor grammar. Please note the following quotes from your post. "a bigots. she back by.... with is ... she open her mouth she lie ... if you was ... in a speak ... she just like ... she say ..."

      Dear John: Please check your grammar. Your post is completely a mess and your opinion is not taken seriously because you don't present yourself well. Everyone that uses poor language claims that "I know when to use good grammar". Apparently people don't. Sadly for you John, no one will think you have an intelligent opinion because again... poor grammar.

      June 27, 2011 at 10:09 pm |
    • Aarrgghh

      In this venue she is not a woman, she is a candidate for the office of President of the United States of America and has opened herself to the scrutiny deserved by such a venture... please check yourself before you wreck yourself...

      June 28, 2011 at 9:45 am |
    • Aarrgghh

      big: let me venture a guess... it makes them observant? despite the bad grammar, the statement is accurate

      June 28, 2011 at 9:47 am |
  9. wackoae

    It is amazing how every time a qualified WOMAN runs for anything, the media immediately starts to bash the candidate. But if somebody with color skin, who has ZERO qualifications for the job runs, that person is untouchable because otherwise you are a racist.

    So gender based bashing against a woman is OK, but questioning the qualifications of a colored candidate is wrong.

    The same thing happened to Mrs Clinton, so this is not an issue of political parties.

    June 27, 2011 at 9:45 pm |
    • Wackadoo

      Muslim! Arab! Illegal Alien! Socialist! Community Organizing Communist! Atheist! Terrorist!

      No. Men of color don;t get attacked politically for their skin color. No. Not at all. Meanwhile, the President can't get jacvk done because the white man can't tolerate a man of color accomplishing anything. They would rather thank their own country than allow a person of color a chance to lead and change.

      WAKE UP

      June 27, 2011 at 9:51 pm |
    • Larry L

      I've noticed racist spend a lot time telling everybody they're not racist. The problem with critical comments about our President is the logic of the argument. Conservatives howled about his failure to "fix" the economy but took no credit for it's condition. Nobody with half a brain would have expected a one year fix for a five year problem – especially with a Senate blocking every initiative. Did we ever hear a Republican solution? The problem with this President isn't about his race, but rather with the stupidity and racism of his critics. We taslk about racism because the radical right-wing of the Republican Party is filled with racists. Did you even see and hear the Tea Party rallies? Did you look at their faces? This is why you feel the "race card" is played often. It's often the issue.

      June 27, 2011 at 9:54 pm |
    • David

      So Michelle Obama could name called by the GOP for her program on nutrition and health.. We have a candidate who is a complete hypocrite.. She fails on the Christianity test and she is definitely not a feminist... What is amazing is that we let a lady like Bachman who lies and lies.. Can't get her fact STRAIGHT and still have her in Congress.. That are bad critiques? Her perception is convoluted to the FAR FAR RIGHT that she has no sense of what America is.. This is a former Republican who see the obvious.. So you could stop with this argument that it is against white people.. It ain't.. I have not seen so many white people critiquing Obama for the non-sense of nonsense... Then you state that we gave him a free pass? Give me a break

      June 27, 2011 at 9:58 pm |
    • Debbie

      Please don't tell me you can compare michelle Bachmann to Hilary Clinton. Hilary is a great woman and would have been a great president.

      June 28, 2011 at 1:38 am |
    • Aarrgghh

      This woman, by no stretch of the imagination, is "qualified" to lead this country. period

      June 28, 2011 at 9:49 am |
  10. Greg

    Oh Mann!!!!!!! I sure hope this lady stays in the running. With GOP candidates like her there is absolutely NO doubt we will have Obama back.
    To tell you the truth I do know we need a lot more than Obama. BUT.....If we end up after 2012 with GOP leadership and dominated congress there will be a lot of blood on their hands. There is no doubt they will take actions that will starve people. They'll spread their rhetoric about how they're going to improve things with their plans. Make no mistake though, the bottom line will be to save money, not people. The only way they can get away from the spending Obama and gang have done will be to hurt Americans in ways we have not seen for almost 100 years.
    I don;t think they realize how very dangerous their mentality is and they seem to be insistent on finding out. All of you who have your eyes closed and standing in the middle of the tracks are going to get hit by the train!
    I say this knowing also if we continue to spend on the other track that there is also a train coming there! Truthfully, there is no place to hide. But with the GOP in charge those trains will double their speed as we will see poverty exponentially increased very quickly which will spread its aftermath in ways that will shock us all.

    June 27, 2011 at 9:43 pm |
  11. Robert Cappuci

    On behalf of all Minnesotans, I would like to apologize for the stress that listening to this woman talk for 2 minutes can cause. I assure you she was elected in a district that doesn't have much in common with most of the state. The rest of us are actually pretty smart.

    June 27, 2011 at 9:43 pm |
  12. MarcAntony*

    Holy nuggets. If we elect another crazy Christian...I'm gone. Bush was enough......was he not??? She's a Young Earth Creationist! The craziest of all crazies. Hostile to science and utterly backwater ignorant.

    June 27, 2011 at 9:42 pm |
    • Aarrgghh

      Absofreakinlutely...

      June 28, 2011 at 9:49 am |
  13. Mike Breen

    I understand that at age fifteen or so, Ms. Bachmann gave her heart to Jesus...That's ok with me, my question is who did she give her brain to ? One of my concerns with Bachmann is her complete scientific illiteracy...I wish someone would take her to task and name ONE Nobel Laureate scientist that supports "Intelligent design" in evolutionary theory.

    June 27, 2011 at 9:42 pm |
    • albert

      Someone needs to "Take you to task" as well. Perhaps you can name ONE Nobel Laureate scientist that can produce the fossil records that link ape to man. With the many fossils that fill the earth where is the proof? Perhaps you can name ONE Nobel Laureate scientist that can recreate the Big Bang theory which basically means creating something from nothing. Where is that proof?

      Science is nothing more than another form of religion. Man has an inherent built in mechanism to want to worship something. In your case it's science. Y have "Faith" that evolution is true. You certainly don't have the proof. Science relies on the laws of nature for everything they do. It is a perfect order. And you believe that happened by chance.

      Tell you what, try this experiment: Get all the ingredients for a simple cake (pan flour, eggs, sugar, butter oil, heat, etc.) Aimlessly toss the ingredients in the air until you get a perfect cake. Let us know how that works for. And yet take just a small piece of the universe, the solar system for example. Perfect order no planets running into each other. the right amount of gravity. The only pace in the entire universe with human life. Not to mention it's beautiful. That all happened by chance? Hows the cake experiment going by the way?

      June 27, 2011 at 10:28 pm |
    • Aarrgghh

      science is a definite way of producing the same results over and over again, the experiments from which have given us flight, the industrial revolution, computers etc.. Religion is the conceited hopes of those who can not face their own demise, no advances are credited to religion, at all. the "theories" you have mentioned, ie: big bang, are put forth as that, theory, not science. You need to pick up a text book and drop your ancient book of lies and control and maybe you will see just how harmful your spiteful imaginary friends are. Science taught the world to fly planes, religion taught some to fly them into things....

      June 28, 2011 at 10:00 am |
  14. Marie Kidman

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGSvqMBj-ig&w=640&h=360]

    June 27, 2011 at 9:38 pm |
  15. Greg Gilbert

    Who knows. I wouldn't get my info about the repubs from CNN is all I know.

    June 27, 2011 at 9:38 pm |
  16. mdmooser

    I don't want my President praying to God for a direction. I want my President, if they need to, to pray to God to please help them make the right decision, their choice whatever, and they use their intelligence to decide. She's OUTTA HERE! BYE BYE. Why has the GOP party has turned into a bunch of religious zealots and finger pointing name callers with no balance. Depressing for a country.

    June 27, 2011 at 9:37 pm |
    • Nocordoba

      You want to know exactly how many of our founding fathers prayed to God for support? IHave you ever seen the George Washington at Valley Forge painting? They prayed to God and it seemed to work out well for them. Through his guidance and blessing they founded a country which is now a world super power. Our national anthems 4th verse our pledge "one nation under God" and above all the freedoms we have show that this is or was once a Christian nation and prospered that way. I don't see what your problem with her saying that is.

      June 27, 2011 at 9:48 pm |
    • Sanity

      Our current President says he prays to God for guidance, does your opinion apply to him as well?

      June 27, 2011 at 10:03 pm |
    • David

      Nocordoba, I do not have an issue with a Christian praying for wisdom and guidance.. I have an issue with a proclaimed "Christian" who is nothing but hypocrite... When did Christ talking about not helping the poor.. What do you think welfare does? Help the Poor! There is no statement if they are lazy or not... That is for God to judge ain't it and not man? But cut programs and hurt the poor and widows are not part of Christian life... If her argument is that religion should not be in government then she statement about creation becomes an issue in that contradiction... I believe in Christ and follow him but her statements just don't show any of that and I would question someone calling oneself Christian when she represent the middle and upper rich class....

      June 27, 2011 at 10:04 pm |
    • albert

      A better question would be, when did Christ ever get involved in politics at all? Christ told his follower to be involved in proclaiming his Fathers kingdom. He said his true followers would be no part of the world (in a political sense). Any Christian that either gets involved in politics or puts their faith in mans governments is not a follower of Christ. Read Danial 2:44. World governments are not the answer. God did not set up the United States as his preferred county of the earth as the person is implying above.

      June 27, 2011 at 10:35 pm |
    • Aarrgghh

      Nocordoba... a painting is created from the imagination of the painter.. it is not a photograph.. Just a clue for you.

      June 28, 2011 at 10:01 am |
    • Frogist

      @Nocordoba: This is not a Christian nation. It was founded on the principle of freedom of and from religion. Those who put forward the notion that we are a Christian nation generally have an agenda.

      June 28, 2011 at 6:10 pm |
  17. jazmin

    It's always so sad for me when I read these boards and I presume they are mostly male based on the comments, but it's so alarming how closed minded the left has become. It's like talking to a bunch of brainwashed jackbooted democrat talking point morons. That's what's scary to me. Has male on this board really ever, ever looked closely at the issue of abortion. Have they ever contemplated when life does in fact become precious, if ever?

    June 27, 2011 at 9:33 pm |
    • Mike

      It seems ironic when people that claim to be open-minded are the ones that refuse to engage in actual discussion of the topics.

      June 27, 2011 at 9:36 pm |
    • Please Wake Up

      Ya Jazmin, I've thought about it. I've also thought about personal choice and I respect your opinion as much as someone who believes that life starts at birth, so why should I limit people from the ability to choose? I think you are the close-minded one in this situation.

      June 27, 2011 at 9:40 pm |
    • mdmooser

      Sounds like you want everyone you see outside your window to think like you or leave. "jackbooted democrat talking point morons, WOW Thanks for the open minded discussion, first discount males and then what is it, yeah "jackbooted democrat talking point morons". You project stereotypes filled with hatred, did you ever think Jazmin that the preciousness of life you speak of, is every person on the planet, even the "jackbooted democrat talking point morons". DISCUSS issues not HATRED! Good luck finding peace, I hope you do someday.

      June 27, 2011 at 9:45 pm |
    • Greg

      That's so funny, because that is exactly how I see Republicans and their supporters! Guess what, common sense tells me there is absolutely NO WAY that just ONE of these two parties knows what they're doing? Is it all actually that easy for you to just pick one side and drive it home with staunch support to death? Hmmm....Somehow I don't see one thinking for themselves in that endeavor!
      The Dems are wacked out and not capable of doing what is needed to help this country. But to think that possibly the Reps are the ones who have got it all together is absolutely SO much worse. It's almost like people are supporting the Reps just for the sole reason of defying the Dems or something. OR... You can truly begin to understand how some say the only thing that makes sense here is that there are racists amongst Republican supporters.
      With the Dems in charge we will without a doubt see the demise of the United States. With the Reps in charge we will without a doubt see the demise of the United States, BUT... it will come twice as fast as they are willing to hasten it by cutting the programs that have been keeping people alive. Add starvation, eliminate the ability for SO MANY to have health care, continue to ignore outsourced jobs (which just MIGHT be a reason for our stagnant job growth) and you don't think the demise will come sooner? Can you spell "WAR". People will not just roll over and die man! Obama and gang are implementing things we cannot afford, right? Those things happen to be keeping people alive and from falling off the edge. They know we can't afford it. They've just made the decision that they can't turn their backs on those that need it to survive. The Rep's and their supporters just happen to see it differently and are willing to sacrifice the steerage thinking there is no danger in doing so. Better watch out!

      June 27, 2011 at 10:00 pm |
    • Nocordoba

      I know what you mean last time I told some one he was wrong and gave him the proof he told me I was close minded and cussed me out.

      June 27, 2011 at 10:10 pm |
    • Samuel

      Life becomes precious when life force is given at conception. Abortion is a violation of divine law. It is a confirmation of the willingness of a woman to tear down her own house with her own hands or by her own will. Some men have taken part in this process by coercing girlfriends into getting abortions. Mothers have taken daughters to abortion clinics and aborted their grandchildren. And why, "Because it would ruin their lives." It was a tradition in the past that many wombs built the family due to the inability to conceive. The women agreed among themselves to do this and the head wife affirmed this with the patriarch. Survival of all peoples depends on regeneration through birth and the elimination of the imposing of death by selfish means and motivations. Men are to secure, lead, protect and love. If we fail to do this we will have domestic terrorism by our own youth and the men will become slaves to the will of the women who will be unhappy with the role of Catherine The Great.

      June 27, 2011 at 10:19 pm |
    • tuffgong71

      Life is "precious" to the right? Go drop some more bombs.

      June 28, 2011 at 6:48 pm |
  18. Zaphod2011

    That picture of hers brings back memories of Damien (if he were an old woman) in the Omen!
    Even the witch of the west wasn't as scary because she was a character. This woman is for real and her beliefs suck!

    June 27, 2011 at 9:33 pm |
  19. Kent Bowen

    So, now it's Christian feminist...Isn't that an oxymoron among the evangelicals?

    June 27, 2011 at 9:32 pm |
  20. Roberto

    I would like to say that if (I don't think it's going to happen) she's elected as president of this country, I and my family will disappear. I will not live under the rule of an executive that is fundamentally based in Christianity. She may well deserve the presidency. She may be the one candidate that makes a difference in this country. Personally, I don't believe it. ANYONE that runs for president that bases his/her basic beliefs in God and Jesus Christ or someone from upper-state NY, AND WINS the election is a terribly scary proposition. We might as well be electing Mao Tse-tung. One party. One belief. No tolerance. THAT'S CHRISTIANITY.

    June 27, 2011 at 9:32 pm |
    • jazmin

      you are a bono fide idiot.

      June 27, 2011 at 9:38 pm |
    • WDinDallas

      Whoo hoo. I hope you do pack up and leave Roberto. You are the closed minded person here. I little selfish, don't you think! Christianity is based on compassion. Read Matthew 25. Remember Jesus saying "love your enemies as you love yourself". Man, you need to be afraid of the far left Marxists in this country that are pulling your strings.

      June 27, 2011 at 9:46 pm |
    • mike

      Amen, brother

      June 27, 2011 at 9:54 pm |
    • Nocordoba

      Uh ok according to you George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, John Quincy Adams were the worst presidents ever. They believed in Christianity as well as many others. Rhis country has always prospered under Christian leadership so I say let more let more who claim and prove to be part of the body of Christ, the church Christians! Come forth and make a stand for leadership in this country to change it for the better.

      June 27, 2011 at 10:07 pm |
    • David

      WDinDallas, the problem is Christians are voting for a wolf in sheep clothing potentially.. You think Bachmann is really a Christian? She contradicts that in her own statement and lifestyles... I know no one is perfect but when did she stand for the weak and the poor? Help the poor? Sounds like she is willing get rid of the poor as she called 'lazy".... She has no compassion so again, your statement seems to go opposite.. I love Christ with all my heart but I hate people using His name in vain for their own gain... Is she really glorifying Jesus? I doubt it

      June 27, 2011 at 10:08 pm |
    • Nocordoba

      @David I almost entirely agree with you. Which is why we must be careful. You must remember though the Bible says it is the churches job to give to the poor not the states so even if she doesn't have any government plans to help the poor that is OK.

      June 27, 2011 at 10:13 pm |
    • Samuel

      There are two brands of Christianity. One was established by Christ the Son of the living God. The other was established by Simon the Sorcerer who became the first Pope. He is the Peter that Rome refers to. This is not the Peter that was part of the twelve Apostles. A careful research of history will reveal this. Simon the Sorcerer and Constantine who set up the Counsil of Laodicea which made Paganized Christianity a State Religion, were both Pagans who worshiped the sun which became a symbol of worship for the world's first dictator, Nimrod. He was worshiped as god. His wife, who was his mother, was revered as the mother of god. Violent conquest came through him. He trained armies and attacked and subjugated many peoples. This is a matter of history. If you did not obey the state religion you were killed. Millions of people died because they refused to obey the State Religion due to it's mandate that you disobey the Creator of heaven and earth in keeping the seventh day sabbath which God kept himself. People assume the characteristics of the God or god that they worship. Obedience assures this in thought word and deed. This is the basis of Roberto's comment. In ancient Rome you converted or you died and the Church and Stated split the value of your property.

      June 27, 2011 at 10:46 pm |
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