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June 28th, 2011
12:10 PM ET
Dutch ban on Jewish, Muslim butchering passes hurdleFrom Eileen Hsieh, CNN Dutch lawmakers Tuesday approved an animal-rights measure that would ban Jewish and Muslim methods of ritual slaughter, the Parliament press office said. It must now go to the Senate for a vote, which will likely happen in September, press officer Leon Van Schie told CNN. The Dutch Party for the Animals proposed closing a loophole in the Dutch law that allows Jews and Muslims to kill animals that have not been anesthetized first. "The Party for the Animals believes that freedom of religion must end where animal suffering begins," leader Marianne Thieme wrote on her blog before the measure went to a vote Tuesday.
Stunning animals before butchering is not allowed by Jewish or Muslim law. David Zwartz, the chairman of the Wellington Jewish Council, fought successfully against a similar proposal in New Zealand last year. He said that for Jews, the Dutch measure would be "an attack on their freedom to practice their religion in a way that they have done for thousands of years." He compared the proposal to Nazi-era laws. "The banning of shechita was introduced as an anti-Jewish law by the Nazis in Germany three months after they came into power in 1933," said Zwartz, using the Hebrew word for Jewish ritual slaughter. "The banning in Nazi German-occupied Poland and the Netherlands was overtly anti-Jewish, " Zwartz said. "Freedom of religious practice is a hallmark of civilized (and most Western) societies. In New Zealand it is covered by our Bill of Rights Act. For Orthodox Jews, the eating of kosher meat is a central part of their belief," he said. Britain's Chief Rabbi, Jonathan Sacks, traveled to the Netherlands two weeks ago to lobby against the law. Abdulfettah Ali-Salah, the director of the Halal Correct Certification organization in the Netherlands, argued that Jewish and Muslim methods of slaughter are humane. "They claim that ritual killing without stunning cause more pain for the animals then with stunning, but I don't agree," he told CNN. "Many scientists even don't agree, if ritual slaughtering without stunning happens according to the right procedure," he said. The ban could force Jews and Muslims to get their meat from other countries, he said. "Many believers, if they are Jewish, Muslim, have to search for other alternatives - probably import from abroad and from Islamic countries," he said.
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Just occurred to me that this whole man show about Islam & Muslims was simply executed as a Sign of the Rejection of "Turkey" from joining the European League...am sure he does not mind Islam but not that of "Turkey" as a Race and Religion.... Seems some big one's mind the joining of "Turkey" and that is why all this pressure applied to make Muslims life more difficult in Europe with so many regulations... Some are taking into consideration the balance of powers and religions...
Why can't Europe say no to America if do not want the joining of "Turkey" to League...why buy time prolonging with excuses and conditions while from inside they fight any thing called Islamic from appearance to rituals...?!
Norway Killings Shift Immigrant Debate in Europe
Islam-phobia is;
Europe's Muslim Capital
No European capital was more cosmopolitan than Constantinople. Its geographical position across the main route between Europe and Asia, its port ‘the finest and most secure I have ever seen’, in the words of the Sieur de Combes in 1688, made it the natural capital of Anatolia, the Balkans and beyond. In its last centuries as capital of the Byzantine Empire, it was not only the holy city of the Orthodox world, dedicated to the Mother of God, but also a cosmopolitan trading centre, with Venetian, Genoese, Muslim, Jewish, Slav and Avar inhabitants.
http://www.historytoday.com/philip-mansel/europes-muslim-capital
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Why Europe can not say openly no to Joining the European Unity nor can let go;
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Turkey has dominated European politics for centuries. Turkey was a superpower previously when the Ottoman’s managed to unite many of the lands around Western Turkey. They removed the Byzantine Empire as the world’s superpower and menaced Europe for centuries. In 1453 the Ottoman’s concluded the conquest of Constantinople, the Byzantine capital. This brought to an end all remnants of Roman rule, who had been the world’s superpower for nearly four centuries.
http://www.international-issues.org/wp/?p=416
http://quran.com/3/151
Islam teach hatred and terror:
Transliteration
Sanulqee fee quloobi allatheenakafaroo arruAAba bima ashrakoo billahima lam yunazzil bihi sultanan wama/wahumu annaruwabi/sa mathwa aththalimeen
Sahih International
We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.
Muhsin Khan
We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they joined others in worship with Allah, for which He had sent no authority; their abode will be the Fire and how evil is the abode of the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers).
Pickthall
We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve because they ascribe unto Allah partners, for which no warrant hath been revealed. Their habitation is the Fire, and hapless the abode of the wrong-doers.
Yusuf Ali
Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the Fire: And evil is the home of the wrong-doers!
Shakir
We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.
Dr. Ghali
We will soon cast in (to) the hearts of the ones who have disbelieved horror for whatever they associated with Allah for which He has not sent down an all-binding authority; and their abode will be the Fire, and miserable is the lodging of the unjust!
http://quran.com/7/11
Islam must believe trinity: Islam Quran use name "WE" mean there is more than 1 in one – trinity. This is not angels or jin because THEY ordered all angels. Of course this is not charlie angels..hahaha..lol..lol..
Transliteration
Walaqad khalaqnakum thumma sawwarnakumthumma qulna lilmala-ikati osjudoo li-adamafasajadoo illa ibleesa lam yakun mina assajideen
Sahih International
And We have certainly created you, [O Mankind], and given you [human] form. Then We said to the angels, "Prostrate to Adam"; so they prostrated, except for Iblees. He was not of those who prostrated.
Muhsin Khan
And surely, We created you (your father Adam) and then gave you shape (the noble shape of a human being), then We told the angels, "Prostrate to Adam", and they prostrated, except Iblis (Satan), he refused to be of those who prostrate.
Pickthall
And We created you, then fashioned you, then told the angels: Fall ye prostrate before Adam! And they fell prostrate, all save Iblis, who was not of those who make prostration.
Yusuf Ali
It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the angels prostrate to Adam, and they prostrate; not so Iblis; He refused to be of those who prostrate.
Shakir
And certainly We created you, then We fashioned you, then We said to the angels: Prostrate to Adam. So they did prostrate except Iblis; he was not of those who prostrated.
Dr. Ghali
And indeed We already created you, thereafter We fashioned you, thereafter We said to the Angels, "Prostrate to Adam;" so they prostrated, except Iblis; he was not of the prostrators.
peace
open http://quran.com/5/51 Look for all transliteration:
Transliteration
Ya ayyuha allatheena amanoola tattakhithoo alyahooda wannasaraawliyaa baAAduhum awliyao baAAdinwaman yatawallahum minkum fa-innahu minhum inna Allaha layahdee alqawma aththalimeen
Sahih International
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.
Muhsin Khan
O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliya' (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), they are but Auliya' to one another. And if any amongst you takes them as Auliya', then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides not those people who are the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers and unjust).
Pickthall
O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
Yusuf Ali
O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
Shakir
O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
Dr. Ghali
O you who have believed, do not take to yourselves the Jews and the Nasara (Christians) as patrons; some of them are patrons to some (others). And whoever of you patronizes them, then surely he is one of them. Surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
It is just one move like the one today in Norway against Muslims presence in the European countries;
Anders Behring Breivik
from the article understand following;
"Impression is that Religion is used more as a vehicle to unjustly assign some religious moral weight," to support political views.
"Europe's population will be Muslim and colored by 2050 "unless those from European Ancestries manage to defeat the ruling Multiculturalist Alliance."
That is being said being discussed as Intentions by certain groups.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_bZzxep87c
Please exercise caution while viewing the above video, but it is necessary for everyone of us meat eaters to see how the animals we eat are slaughtered.
I NEVER EAT HALA MEAT....PERIOD!
I agree. ANimals should be treated humanely even if they are to be slaughtered. Tough if they feel it's a relgious right to treat an animal cruelly before killing them. It's past time for this kind of thing to be permitted in civilized society.