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July 12th, 2011
11:34 AM ET

Bill Maher explains his 'apatheism,' apathetic atheism

Comedian Bill Maher sits down with Piers Morgan to talk about growing up Catholic and becoming an "apatheist," an apathetic atheist who just doesn't think much about religion.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • Content Partner

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  1. RZ

    To ALL Athiests, I can prove to you that there is a God, angels, hell, paradise and an afterlife. Do the following to get the proof. 1) Go into a tall building 2) Get on the roof 3) Jump off. I assure you that as soon as you hit the ground all will be made clear to you if death has occurred. Just try it! If this is too much for you, then any type of suicide shall result in a similar result. So go give it a try! I DARE you. I have NO DOUBT you will believe then (though it'll be too late then to bring you any benefit).

    July 14, 2011 at 11:32 am |
    • Ace

      Nah, thanks, I think we will pass on your generous offer for enlightenment.
      However, should you choose to lead by example we may reconsider... Nah, that won't happen either.

      Tell you what, if you are so sure that the next life is better and you yearn for joining your lord and savior in heaven, why stick around? Go ahead, find that building and go be happy and in peace.

      You see, I just want you to be happy...

      July 14, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
    • Nissim

      Then why don't you jump off a building then if you believe in heaven so strongly? As a good Christian you will surely benefit from jumping off a building and going to heaven, right?

      July 14, 2011 at 6:45 pm |
  2. Ashley

    He's an apathetic atheist who makes movies called Religulous?

    July 14, 2011 at 10:51 am |
    • Ace

      You make a good point.
      In the interview he explains it somewhat but I agree with you.

      He has always been very vocal and passionate about his stance which is not exactly compatible with being apathetic.
      More recently he does seem to be chillin' a little...

      July 14, 2011 at 12:14 pm |
  3. John

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGSvqMBj-ig
    ^
    '

    July 14, 2011 at 3:13 am |
    • ....

      ~~~~+TROLL ALERT – don't bother watching this garbage, click the report abuse link to get rid of this TROLL.

      July 14, 2011 at 7:21 pm |
  4. Mormon Christian

    Dear Friends, brothers, sisters...God does exist and He has appeared to at least one man in our time, dispelling disbelief and misunderstanding concerning His true nature and being. In young Joseph's vision in 1820, there were two separate, glorified, resurrected beings standing in the air in a pillar of light – Eloheim the Father of our spirits, and Jesus Christ our Savior and Redeemer (See JSH 1:14-17 at http://lds.org/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1?lang=eng).

    Despite this glorious appearance, and the coming forth of the The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ, the world remains in confusion due to wickedness and unbelief. The purpose of that Book is to convince both Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ and to lead all men unto Him and the FULLNESS of His Gospel. It also serves as powerful evidence that indeed Joseph Smith, a poorly educated farmboy was indeed chosen by tutored by God himself to be a seer, translator, apostle and prophet. Indeed, Satan has great power in the earth, striving to deceive and blind men by "every wind of doctrine." (see Ephesians 4) For this cause, our unchanging, loving, and all wise Father in Heaven brought forth additional scripture to support, clarify, enhance and confirm the truthfulness of His existing revelation (The Holy Bible – which I and millions of other wonderful Christians revere as sacred).

    Indeed the coming forth of the Book of Mormon is a sign of the last days, prophesied of by ancient Prophets of the Lord: Isaiah says it clearest: “And in that day (our days) shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness. They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine. (Also see Psalm 85:11 – “Truth shall spring out of the earth” AND Ezekiel 37:19 – The two sticks (or books) shall “become one in thy hand” – Stick of Judah=Bible, Stick of Joseph of Egypt=Book of Mormon or new world records – Lehi/Nephi were descendants of Joseph of Egypt).

    Truth is the way things are, have been, and will yet be. This is an invitation of a lifetime to invite truth into your life – taken from the introduction to the book: “We invite all men everywhere to read the Book of Mormon, to ponder in their hearts the message it contains, and then to ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ if the book is true. Those who pursue this course and ask in faith will gain a testimony of its truth and divinity by the power of the Holy Ghost. (See Moroni 10:3-5). Those who gain this divine witness from the Holy Spirit will also come to know by the same power that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world, that Joseph Smith is his revelator and prophet in these last days, and that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Lord’s kingdom once again established on the earth, preparatory to the second coming of the Messiah”

    I invite all readers of this post to prayerfully follow this invitation. Fools will criticize these things without doing so.

    July 14, 2011 at 2:20 am |
    • MrMajestik

      Oh please tell you believe this only because questioning and rejection of this the most absurd form of Christianity would lead to ostracism from your friends and family... Only Religion can you be completely delusional and still be treated as "normal" any thing else and they would be hauling you away fearing you were psychotic... Believe any fantasy you want but don't force it on me and my home...stop the door to door harassment. You don't think your "all-powerful" god can touch someone convictions without two weird guys showing up and bugging me during my favorite Gilligan's Island rerun?

      You are delusional or stupid... If I told you Zeus was the god of all gods and so on you would look at me as if I were nuts... well that is how you look to me... Why should you get a pass on insanity simply because you call it religion..DUMB DUMB DUMB...

      July 14, 2011 at 2:38 am |
    • Q

      Right....

      July 14, 2011 at 3:09 am |
    • gerald

      Mormon,

      With all due respect to the good moral values found in the mormon religion (God's laws are written in the hearts of all men Rom 2:14-16), the book of Mormon is nothing more than a copy of the book of Isaiha and some stories about Indians. There is nothing supernatural about it unlike the Bible. Mormonism is the product of 19th century america. Jesus said "the gates of hell shall not prevail" yet Mormonism has the gospel taken from this earth for 1800 years. Jesus the failure, Joseph Smith the hero is the message. Yet there is no evidence for Mormonism in the Bible or the writings of the early Church Fathers, other than some extremely revised history. No plural marriage or temple cerimonies in the writings of Clement, Justin Martyr, Irenaus, Ignatius of Loyola, etc.. I wish you well in your journey toward truth. May God open your mind.

      July 14, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
    • Murray Braun

      Please leave your thoughts to yourself. We are not interested. You are NOT interesting.

      July 14, 2011 at 7:20 pm |
  5. Muneef

    THE QUR’AN
    AND
    MODERN SCIENCE
    by
    Dr. Maurice Bucaille
    Edited by Dr. A. A. B. Philips

    RELIGION AND SCIENCE

    There is, perhaps, no better illustration of the close links between Islam and science than the Prophet Muhammad’s often-quoted statements:

    “Seeking knowledge is compulsory on every Muslim.”

    “wisdom is the lost property of the believer.”

    “whoever follows a path seeking knowledge, Allah will make his path to paradise easy.”

    These statements and many others are veritable invitations to humanity to enrich their knowledge from all sources. It comes as no surprise, therefore, to learn that in Islam religion and science have always been considered as twin sisters and that today, at a time when science has taken such great strides, they still continue to be associated. Nor is it a surprise to learn that certain scientific data are used for the better understanding of the Qur’anic text. What is more, in a century where, for many people, scientific truth has dealt a deathblow to religious belief, it is precisely the discoveries of science that, in an objective examination of the Islamic scripture, have highlighted the supernatural nature of revelation and the authenticity of the religion which it taught.

    July 13, 2011 at 9:13 pm |
    • Muneef

      http://adelhasanin.yolasite.com/resources/The%20Quran%20and%20Modern%20Science%20(Dr.%20Maurice%20Bucaille).pdf

      July 13, 2011 at 10:23 pm |
    • Reality

      THE QUR’AN
      AND
      MODERN AND NOT SO MODERN CARNAGE:

      The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century

      ■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

      and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.

      and more recently

      1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

      1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

      2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

      3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,483 and 925 in non combat roles. 99,901 – 109,143 Iraqi civilians killed as of 3/3/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

      4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

      5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

      6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

      7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

      8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

      9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

      10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,141 killed in action, 242 killed in non-combat situations as of 03/03/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror

      11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

      12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

      13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

      14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.

      15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.

      16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.

      17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.

      18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.

      19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011

      20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011

      21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.

      22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.

      July 14, 2011 at 12:05 am |
    • RZ

      @Reality – IF that's your counter-argument than you need to understand what "Reality" means. I could compile similar stuff from almost every other civilization as well INCLUDING athiestic governments and ideologies. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world so get use to it.

      July 14, 2011 at 10:34 am |
    • Murray Braun

      You are just another believer of divine fairy tales. Get a life.

      July 14, 2011 at 7:21 pm |
  6. martini paul

    Why do atheiists believe that if they kill God they will also kill religion? There is a mountain of empirical evidence to support the concept that religion is a necessary part of human societies. Even people like Dewey, Marx, and Huxley seem to have understood this. You'll just be jumping from the frying pan into the fire. No logically ordered society would tolerate such radical, dissident, i-theists.

    July 13, 2011 at 7:57 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @martini paul

      You Said: "Why do atheiists believe that if they kill God they will also kill religion?"

      Say Wut...?

      Peace...

      July 13, 2011 at 8:03 pm |
    • Blatent Sarcasm

      Yeah, atheists are aiming to burn YOUR bible next! stockpile water and get the guns!

      July 13, 2011 at 8:35 pm |
    • tuffgong71

      True, religion appears to be necessary for humans. It was created in virtually every society in human history. It comforts humans and provides a message to teach the next generation. Societies through history have created their religions, often with similar stories of creation, virgin birth, great floods, etc. Once you realise this, the common threads that run through all religions, you realise that they are just that: a man made crutch. You also begin to see how this crutch, which helped early civilizations answer questions that were beyond them, is now holding humanity back from reaching it's true potential. Science has answered questions that early man attributed to "God". There is no reason to believe it will not answer the rest of the questions in time. It is time for humanity to throw away the crutch and take the next big step. I don't believe in God, I believe in the potential of humanity. Sadly, my belief is fading.

      July 14, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
    • Murray Braun

      You are one of the many fools.

      July 14, 2011 at 7:22 pm |
  7. FOOLS

    @ moochy

    It's impossible for life to come from non-life. Evolutionists teach that the first living cell evolved from non-life. There is no evidence that this ever happened. Life does not just happen by chance. The reason we have life on this planet (animal life, plant life, human life) is because the Creator made it so. God created all plants and all living creatures.

    There is no evidence that amphibians evolved into reptiles. There is no evidence that reptiles evolved into mammals. There is no evidence that reptiles evolved into birds. The fossil record does not back up the claims of evolution. Evolutionists have a theory that has never been proven.

    There are variations found in the various "kinds" of animals which God created. For example, think of all the varieties of dogs. Think of all the varieties of cats. Think of all the varieties of humans. All humans came from the same parents (Adam and Eve) and yet we do not all look alike (different colored skin, different eyes, etc.). God has made the various kinds of animals with great genetic potential for variation. He did this for humans as well. However, one kind of animal does not change into another kind. Animals always reproduce "after their kind" (Genesis 1:11,21,25). Lizards do not change into birds. Reptiles do not evolve into lions. Dogs do not evolve into cats. Land mammals do not change into whales. Eels do not evolve into snakes. Apes do not evolve into humans.

    Also so since Aethist are so stuck on evolution....Whats the latest animal that has evolved from another animal. Did evolution stop...how come it is not happening today?

    July 13, 2011 at 7:37 pm |
    • Lisa

      UM yes there's proof of ALL of those things. Believe what you want– that's YOUR TRUTH no one else's. But while you're at it you may want to pick up an actual science book and learn something.

      July 13, 2011 at 7:43 pm |
    • Arcas

      You're talking about Abiogenesis – Research it; it does make sense.

      Unlike you.

      July 13, 2011 at 8:35 pm |
    • Blatent Sarcasm

      Yeah, you go christian science man, tell us what your pastor told you

      July 13, 2011 at 8:37 pm |
    • FOOLS

      Ya'll are hilarious with your responses ...someone comes at you with a logical argument...and you respond with..."Well..you stink!" LOL!!! oh well...A wise man once said.."don't argue with fools..because from a distance people can tell who is who"

      July 13, 2011 at 10:28 pm |
    • Karin

      This type of thinking is exactly why we need to abolish religion. It eradicates the mind of all its participants.
      Tip: No one knows where life first begun!!! Even you dude! IE; who made your god? ...

      July 13, 2011 at 11:18 pm |
    • Q

      @FOOLS – Yours was most certainly not a logical argument, rather it was an argument of incredulity based in an argument of ignorance (i.e. double fail). There is a nice fossil record of all the transitions you claim are impossible. Animals are evolving all the time. We don't expect to see the changes you describe within the course of a lifetime. What we do expect to see is speciation, i.e. one species splitting into two separated by physical or behavioral reproductive isolation. One recent example of this, complete with rather dramatic evolution of the gut, is the Pod Mrcaru lizards. There are plenty of others. Evolution has an observed mechanism which begins with the generation of novel genetic variation, proceeds to phenotypic diversity and culminates in speciation. Again, all observable in real time. From there, we have a consistent and concordant fossil record displaying a clear progression of the major classes of life complete with intermediate/transitional forms. Beyond this, we have the consistent and concordant physical evidence from every relevant scientific discipline indicating an ancient earth. We have the validation of these evolutionary mechanisms as applied in medicine, agriculture and conservation biology. We have successful predictions of where we should find everything from fossils to vestigial defunct genes (like the defunct gene you possess for egg yolk production). On the contrary, what you offer is myths upon myths with zero supporting physical evidence wrapped in an ignorance of the science you simply don't (and likely don't care to) understand.

      The irony is, to account for observable biodiversity resulting from a "special creation" and/or the severely limited genetic diversity accompanying a founding pair of any "kind" of animal requires a hyper-evolution mutating, diversifying, selecting, speciating and adapting faster than anything the Theory of Evolution proposes. Your a "super evolutionist" and don't even have the sense to know it...

      Furthermore, there is a growing body of evidence indicating plausible pathways for abiogenesis, again, with mechanisms validated in various applications, e.g. RNA aptamers. While we may never know exactly how the first cell arose, the evidence for evolution remains independently and solidly positioned in both extinct and extant life.

      Your posts below are also standard weak creationist appeals to teleology, failing to account for the incredibly poor and unintelligent design of organisms, e.g. the recurrent laryngeal nerve, male ni-pples, etc. Given such a cliche set of well-refuted arguments, I wouldn't be surprised if you were a Poe...

      July 14, 2011 at 2:58 am |
    • just saying

      I believe that things evolve, but that doesn't nessicarily mean that we evolved from apes. I mean, if we did, why aren't apes still evolving? I know, I know, it takes a crap ton of time, but, how long has it been since the first human walked the earth? So, some apes evolved into a few humans, then that's it? no more? I believe in creation because I have a soul. I don't think that's something that just evolves. Our souls, our hearts, our beleifs, that came from an anaimal, or a single cell organism? I think that most people that don't believe in God don't believe because they have never felt him move in their heart. Once you feel that, you can't deny it. that flood of emotion, that feeling of peace, where did it come from if not from God? Athiest think that christians just make wishes to some bearded man in the sky. Faith is invisible. You can't see it, but it's there. The same with love, or the wind. You can't see the wind but you can see the effect on the trees outside. It can be powerful it can knock things down, even destroy them. But just because you can't see it, that means it's not real, right? And because you can't see the love and affection you have for your mate, that means you really don't love them right? Faith is blind, you just have to be open to letting your gaurd down, and letting it in.

      July 14, 2011 at 10:47 am |
    • tuffgong71

      Fools, nice moniker. I can only assume this is your name or place of origin, fitting. Your lack of knowledge is appalling. I am not sure where to begin. There is a HUGE MOUNTAIN of scientific evidence that proves evolution beyond doubt. There is not one (NOT A SINGLE ONE) working scientist in the world who does not endorse evolution wholeheartedly. It is a fact. Name one scientist who disagrees (dig deep and tell me also where they are currently employed in a science field). You will find none. Evolution is most certainly happening today. Please educate yourself as this is an international website and you are emarassing your fellow countrymen.
      Just Saying: are you saying that God exists because humans have souls and animals do not? How is this distinction made? You really see a difference between animals and humans. Other than higher intelligence (which escapes many humans) I struggle to see a difference. Your wind analogy could not be more flawed. Science has proven why wind exists. Unfortunately this field of exploration has failed to turn up any sign of your God. I feel Love in my heart. Why would I attribute this to God. If God is so "loving" why has he "commanded" so ,amy to kill in his name. Why has he tolerated so many different religions?

      July 14, 2011 at 1:05 pm |
    • tuffgong71

      Just Saying: You seem like a curious, intelligent person who has put some thought into this question. I urge you to educate yourself on the other side. I believe in evolution largely because I have read everything I could find about creationism and Adam and Eve. Animals are evolving right now and you are right it takes a "crap ton of time". There was a story just the other day that scientist observing a certain animal ( I believe it was a bird species) have noticed the birds appear to be in the early stages og learning to use tools! An example I like is during the Industrial Evolution. England was quickly filling up with soot from new factories springing up everywhere. A plentiful white moth in England was now easily spotted by predators becuase it stood out now in the gray surroundings. The darker the moth was, the more chance it had for survival. To cut a long story short, the white moths were eaten, the dark moths were better able to cope and mate with other darker moths. The species is now gray. Survival of the fittest at its most simple.

      July 14, 2011 at 1:26 pm |
    • Q

      @just saying – Well, we can be very confident that humans evolved from an ape ancestor for a number of reasons. First and foremost is the fossil record of pre-modern human hominid species. It's not perfect but provides a rather consistent and concordant view of when and where various traits arose. Second, is the genetic evidence within our own genomes indicating a divergence from an ape ancestor. This genetic evidence is principally based in comparing genes and their sequences with genes in extant primates and more recently, in comparing H. sapien genes with those of neanderthals. Beyond our genetic relationships with apes, we can see a history of development and divergence by looking at parasitic DNA insertions into our genomes (e.g. ERVs) and by the presence of defunct genes for processes that would have only been useful in very ancient ancestors (e.g. defunct gene for egg yolk production).

      Beyond this, we also bear a large number of vestigial traits which don't accord with an "intelligent design" ranging from an appendix which ruptures, bad backs/necks/knees/wrists, retinas that detach, the recurrent laryngeal nerve, a tailbone, male ni-pples, etc. When taken together, we don't appear to be the product of special creation, but rather, the result of an ad hoc, "whatever works for now" process of trial and error.

      July 14, 2011 at 4:40 pm |
    • Murray Braun

      Your "arguments" for a divine fariy tale are old. You are lost as much as you think atheists are.

      July 14, 2011 at 7:23 pm |
  8. Muneef

    Guess Atheists believe in no Angels or Demons since they believe in no God....good enough as it is that they believed in Humans a
    Though they did not believe in Adam's Mankind..

    Belief in Angel Messengers;

    As it seems that we even have our differences of belief with Christians in the Terms of Angels;

    -Islam says "Gabriel" is the Arch Angel while Christians belief it is "Michael" the Arch Angel...
    -Islam says Archangels and Angels were created from a substance of light,Christians not specified any substance.. 
    -Lucifer (Satan/Devil) is from DJinn and they were created from a substance of smokeless poisonous fire, Christians thought they were created as of Angels and called him and his tribe the fallen Angels.. 
    -Adam was created from a substance water and colorful mixture like clay.
    Muslim sites;
    http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/Angels.htm
    http://www.alislam.org/books/study-of-islam/angels.html
    Christian sites;
    http://breadandwineministries.org/how%20to%20see%20angels.pdf
    http://www.whyangels.com/devil_demons.html

    July 13, 2011 at 7:31 pm |
    • Artist

      Muneef as tensions grow it is not about truth, it is about power. One religion must dominate. As religions but heads and fight for power...think of the movie Highlander....There can only be one! The rest of us are stuck on this rock to watch you guys go back and forth.

      July 13, 2011 at 7:35 pm |
    • moochy

      No need to guess. No, we don't believe in angels or devils or saints or heaven or hell or purgatory. As for Jesus-he may have been a historical figure but he was not a god.

      July 13, 2011 at 7:35 pm |
    • Muneef

      Shouldn't we try to learn which is with the truth and justice so that we can support...to stand up against the false and tyrant? Or should we only stand on the rock and wait for who wins to follow helplessly?

      In all the heavenly religions there are the ones who are moderate and care about charity work in a live and let live system...while there are others who are either extremists or those with vast interests who want to serve their purposes of up ruling the world using youth by misleading them to throw their life in belief blindly...

      July 13, 2011 at 8:08 pm |
  9. Bumble Bees

    I am a bumble bee and I don't accept the existence of god but I accept the existence of hives because I, bee live in you.

    July 13, 2011 at 6:59 pm |
  10. FOOLS

    Can any Aetheist explain to my poor misguided ignorant Christian self where man and all life forms ORIGINATED? I really would like to know.

    July 13, 2011 at 6:40 pm |
    • Atheist

      I originated from the big gang bang

      July 13, 2011 at 7:17 pm |
    • moochy

      This is why we need to fight the religious right-who fight tooth and nail to prevent evolution from being taught in public schools. This Fool(s) was probably either home schooled or went to a parochial school since (s)he doesn't know anything about natural selection but probably knows everything about intelligent design!

      July 13, 2011 at 7:27 pm |
    • Arcas

      You're trying to "place God in the gaps". Even if science's current answer is "I don't know," that does not mean "God did it". When we did not know where lightning came from, did God also do that?

      July 13, 2011 at 8:38 pm |
    • Robert

      They can explain it, but they would be wrong.

      July 14, 2011 at 1:26 am |
    • RZ

      Athiests can never answer the origin of everything. As one of their leaders, Hawkins, said in an interview, "We don't know but we're working on it!" Yea you do that Einstein. The majority of mankind knows it's GOD.

      July 14, 2011 at 11:28 am |
    • tuffgong71

      What is wrong with "we don't know yet but we are working on it?" How many things that people used to believe were magic or created by the gods/demons/angels have since been explained by science? Why would you think this is any different? What is more likely, it was created by a bearded man in the sky or science will eventually find the answer. Even if they do not, I am find with the moment of creation having something of a spiritual origin (though unlikely, science will find everything eventually. If left unrestricted by religion) but from that point on, science is on it.

      July 14, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
    • DamianKnight

      "What is wrong with "we don't know yet but we are working on it?" How many things that people used to believe were magic or created by the gods/demons/angels have since been explained by science? Why would you think this is any different?"

      RIGHT! So here's the problem. The theists say, "I can't conclusively prove [the origin of life], but I believe this to be the case!" And athiests say the same thing about evolution. So, isn't everyone arguing about something they can't prove?

      July 14, 2011 at 5:32 pm |
    • Jay FTL

      You tell me where your god originated. Nothing comes from nothing, right? Then where did your god come from?

      July 14, 2011 at 7:35 pm |
  11. FOOLS

    It just amazes me that Aethist don't atleast beleive in a intelligent design. Where did the very first human come from? Who determined that we needed eyes to see?. That we needed legs to walk?. A tongue to tastes. A heart to pump blood through our bodys? Hands to hold things, arms to reach. Who designed our reproductive systems? How did all this come about? It seems very specific...Who gave us minds to think and figure "SCIENCE" out. All science is, is a educated explanation of GODS work. Who decided that we needed a stomach and intestines to digest the food that we eat? What was it...was it some bacteria formed and mutated into human beings.....and all these things just formed?. Come on guys you can't be that naive....you claim that there is NO GOD....but can't even explain why there is NOT. All I can say is BOW NOW OR BOW LATER. All will no HIM...he is just giving you a chance to CHOOSE to know HIM. You will know him in life and or death. You can continue to lie to yourself and make your self seem intellectually superior.... You can mock Christians all you want. IT DOES NOT OFFEND US...ALL YOUR DOING IS OFFENDING GOD.

    July 13, 2011 at 6:27 pm |
    • Atheist

      That's right, we are so naive. We just don't have the level of intellectual sophistication of you bible thumpers.

      July 13, 2011 at 7:21 pm |
    • Athiest

      If not offended, don't bother posting and trying to change us.

      July 14, 2011 at 2:58 am |
  12. BL

    From another (Buddhist) perspective that might interest you: "Form is emptiness, emptiness is form." Everything is God's consciousness in form. From this perspective, it's a pointless discussion. We're all simply God arguing with Himself about whether He exists.

    July 13, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
    • The Baffler

      The Buddhist perspective is quite nice, I must say.

      July 13, 2011 at 8:43 pm |
  13. David Johnson

    Guys!

    DiamondSky is just trying to rattle the non-believers. I bet he is the same person who was doing this a day or two ago. There is no point in challenging his comments.

    Cheers!

    July 13, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
  14. Reality

    A prayer reiterated for Bill and any other "apatheist" out there:-----------------–

    The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians during the past 200 years)

    I might believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven.

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
    and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen

    July 13, 2011 at 11:24 am |
    • Lycidas

      You guess so much Reality. It will be quite a day when you actually have some facts to tie all your guessing together.

      July 13, 2011 at 6:29 pm |
    • Reality

      It is called the Great Angelic Con:

      Joe Smith had his Moroni.

      Jehovah Witnesses have their Jesus /Michael the archangel, the first angelic being created by God;

      Mohammed had his Gabriel (this "tin-kerbell" got around).

      Jesus and his family had Michael, Gabriel, and Satan, the latter being a modern day dem-on of the de-mented.

      The Abraham-Moses myths had their Angel of Death and other "no-namers" to do their dirty work or other assorted duties.

      Contemporary biblical and religious scholars have relegated these "pretty wingie thingies" to the myth pile. We should do the same to include deleting all references to them in our religious operating manuals. Doing this will eliminate the prophet/profit/prophecy status of these founders and put them where they belong as simple humans just like the rest of us.
      Some added references to "tink-erbells".

      "Latter-day Saints also believe that Michael the Archangel was Adam (the first man) when he was mortal, and Gabriel lived on the earth as Noah."

      Apparently hallu-cinations did not stop with Joe Smith.

      newadvent.org/cathen/07049c.htm

      "The belief in guardian angels can be traced throughout all antiquity; pagans, like Menander and Plutarch (cf. Euseb., "Praep. Evang.", xii), and Neo-Platonists, like Plotinus, held it. It was also the belief of the Babylonians and As-syrians, as their monuments testify, for a figure of a guardian angel now in the British Museum once decorated an As-syrian palace, and might well serve for a modern representation; while Nabopolassar, father of Nebuchadnezzar the Great, says: "He (Marduk) sent a tutelary deity (cherub) of grace to go at my side; in everything that I did, he made my work to succeed."

      Catholic monks and Dark Age theologians also did their share of hallu-cinating:

      "TUBUAS-A member of the group of angels who were removed from the ranks of officially recognized celestial hierarchy in 745 by a council in Rome under Pope Zachary. He was joined by Uriel, Adimus, Sabaoth, Simiel, and Raguel."

      And tin-ker- bells go way, way back:
      "In Zoroastrianism there are different angel like creatures. For example each person has a guardian angel called Fravashi. They patronize human being and other creatures and also manifest god’s energy. Also, the Amesha Spentas have often been regarded as angels, but they don't convey messages, but are rather emanations of Ahura Mazda ("Wise Lord", God); they appear in an abstract fashion in the religious thought of Zarathustra and then later (during the Achaemenid period of Zoroastrianism) became personalized, associated with an aspect of the divine creation (fire, plants, water...)."
      "The beginnings of the biblical belief in angels must be sought in very early folklore. The gods of the Hitti-tes and Canaanites had their supernatural messengers, and parallels to the Old Testament stories of angels are found in Near Eastern literature. "

      "The 'Magic Papyri' contain many spells to secure just such help and protection of angels. From magic traditions arose the concept of the guardian angel. "

      July 14, 2011 at 12:07 am |
    • Walt

      If you do not see, this is as it should be. Many do not see. I know a cat named Abby. Can you prove or disprove her existence. No, you cannot see, hear or find her if you search. But I see her everyday. She doesn't exist for you. However, she brings me much joy as does the Eternal EL of Heaven and earth. All are His servants, knowing Him, or not. Shalom.

      But, the heavens declare His glory and you know He is there, waiting.

      July 14, 2011 at 2:05 pm |
  15. MichiganM

    Wasn't he claiming to be agnostic for the longest time? When did he change his mind? No matter. Good interview. We need more free thinkers in the spotlight.

    July 13, 2011 at 10:36 am |
  16. Bill Maher

    I don't believe in Bible Clowns, Christian Ventriloquists, or Bigfoot.

    July 13, 2011 at 10:11 am |
    • Bible Clown

      You hate me for my freedom.

      July 13, 2011 at 10:35 am |
    • The Baffler

      llawl

      July 13, 2011 at 8:45 pm |
  17. DiamondSky

    Atheists are not apathetic. They hate the Creator God and His people with strongest passion and illogicality. Atheists are indeed amoral and always approve and promote the worst forms of immorality.

    July 13, 2011 at 9:34 am |
    • NotASheep

      This statement is about as ignorant as they come. Obviously believing such fallacies make you feel better about your own ridiculous beliefs. I obviously am an atheist and not only that, I am a father of three, one of which has a severe mental disability. I teach my children the morals I believe will benifit them most in their life, like honesty, integrity and a respect for life and other people. And you know what? I do it because I WANT to be a good person. not because I am afraid of hell.

      July 13, 2011 at 10:01 am |
    • Michael

      In your belief aren't all others who don't believe in your Jesus a monrel who will be burned? I don't give too much time to reply to you bigots most of the time.

      July 13, 2011 at 10:01 am |
    • Tony

      Um, can't "hate" something that doesn't exist.

      July 13, 2011 at 10:05 am |
    • Noah

      Yet the idea of gods and religion is not illogical? Atheism is based on logical reasoning and facts (or lack thereof), while religions are based on plain faith, illogical thinking and absolutely NO facts whatsoever. All religions are COMPLETELY immoral and highly detrimental to society. Don't think so? Try actually reading any of those foolish religious books out there (bible, quran, torah) and tell me that everything written in them is totally logical and moral. Sorry, it's impossible.

      July 13, 2011 at 10:07 am |
    • Bible Clown

      Aren't you jesus-freaks supposed to avoid lying? Your god just can't seem to get good employees no matter what He offers you.

      July 13, 2011 at 10:07 am |
    • JoeK

      "They hate the Creator God and His people with strongest passion and illogicality."
      First of all, we don't hate god, nor we hate people that believe in god. The only thing we dislike is when people include god in everything and try to impose it on us. In fact, I myself am happy that many people believe in god. They are way more controllable than free-thinkers. Me: "hunny, don't cheat on me". Her: "why?" me: "because it is a sin and you will burn in hell if you do". That's way more effective than talking about psychology and physiology.

      Second of all, we are illogical? Now that's funny. Yeah, believing blindly what your parents brainwashed you to think since you were born, believing that miracles that defy the laws of nature, is way more logical than people who only believe in science and proof.

      "Atheists are indeed amoral and always approve and promote the worst forms of immorality"
      First of all, "morality" is relative. I am immoral to you just like you are immoral to other religions. So yes, we are immoral relative to what you believe, but when it comes to following the laws, we are just as likely, if not more, to be good citizens.
      Second of all, more people have dies in the name of religion than anything else. So, related to your first point, immorality is what you convince yourself is happening just because you don't agree with it. There is a reason theologically based governments perish and get replaced after all.

      July 13, 2011 at 10:12 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      @DiamondSky

      At the moment some Roman Catholic bishops condemn gay people, although they themselves are predators having molested children. RCC is indeed Satan's house.

      July 13, 2011 at 10:40 am |
    • Green Bean

      My wife and I are life-long atheists. Our parents never went to church, yet are warm, happy people, and do great things for those around them. My wife and I volunteer regularly, follow most, if not all, laws, are tolerant and accepting of most things and people. Our goal is to be happy and helpful during our brief time on earth. We're not looking for any reward. Get over it. Grow up. Atheism is not anit-God, it means without-God. Enjoy your life.

      July 13, 2011 at 10:43 am |
    • Broccoli

      They hate me too.

      July 13, 2011 at 10:49 am |
    • ligggit

      I smell a troll.

      July 13, 2011 at 11:29 am |
    • fred bazzeeda

      One can not believe nor hate in something that doesn't exist.
      Please, can you base your comments on reality and facts.
      Peace,
      Fred

      July 13, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
    • Scott

      Your just disappointed that it isn't true

      July 13, 2011 at 4:57 pm |
    • FlyingSpaghettiMonster

      DiamondSky You claim all Atheist are "indeed amoral and always approve and promote the worst forms of immorality."

      I'm sure the people flying passenger planes into buildings or blowing up car bombs think they are doing the moral and just thing and consider them selves to be good people in the eyes of their god.

      "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." Steven Weinberg, quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999 US physicist (1933 – )

      July 13, 2011 at 7:27 pm |
  18. DiamondSky

    atheist = anti-theist

    July 13, 2011 at 9:30 am |
    • Bible Clown

      No dummy, it means NON theist.

      July 13, 2011 at 10:09 am |
    • Ramses Niblick III

      This is willfully ignorant. Please take the time to think and research before posting such twaddle.

      July 13, 2011 at 10:48 am |
    • Broccoli

      a-vegan=broccoli hater.

      July 13, 2011 at 10:53 am |
    • moochy

      A theist = one without theism like A symmetrical= without symmetry

      July 13, 2011 at 6:50 pm |
  19. Bible Clown

    I don't believe in Bill Maher. He may be a hologram.

    July 13, 2011 at 9:01 am |
    • Nissim

      Is Jesus a holygram?

      July 13, 2011 at 7:14 pm |
  20. Broccoli

    I'm still sad because Randy doesn't believe in me.

    July 13, 2011 at 8:56 am |
    • Artichoke

      Get over it. I've had my heart ripped out and I just keep on going . . .

      July 13, 2011 at 9:00 am |
    • Cauliflower

      white power!

      July 13, 2011 at 11:41 am |
    • Flour

      white powder.

      OK, brown if it's whole wheat.

      July 13, 2011 at 12:30 pm |
    • Broccoli

      I've just been vegging out on the couch.

      July 13, 2011 at 12:39 pm |
    • Fruits and Vegetables

      We're not anti-theists we're anti-oxidants

      July 13, 2011 at 6:54 pm |
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