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July 18th, 2011
02:57 PM ET
Your take: Michele Bachmann officially leaves her churchBy Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor (CNN) - On Friday we posted on Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann and her husband Marcus formally withdrawing their membership from their longtime Lutheran church in Minnesota just days before the congresswoman officially announced her candidacy for president. The story had lots of people talking, with 2,500 comments and counting. Many commenters posed a basic question: Why'd the Bachmann's leave their church? I asked the Congresswoman that question after running into her at Washington's Reagan airport but didn't get very far. A spokeswoman later told me that the Bachmanns had stopped attending the Minnesota church two years ago and are attending a nondenominational church in the state as their schedules permit.
One commenter wondered how a busy elected official and candidate could make it back home for Sunday services:
Many commenters raised questions about the membership process at her church:
One commenter seemed to have an answer for Michigan Joe, invoking the traditions of Bachmann's denomination, the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod:
Over on Twitter, @danielwanke responded to our tweet about Bachmann leaving her church this way: "Just the congregation she hadn't been attending." Follow us on Twitter: @CNNBelief.
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Freaking religious freaks! They will do anything to get into the evil/devil political office?! The facts – Religion is destroying the USA and the world! All the wars and political non-sense are about RELIGION! When was the last time a war was stated based on spreading Atheism? Religion is all about fear and kill anyone that don't agree with their ideology!
Bachmann is insane!
Most Christian religions are cozying up to the Catholic church. There are few "PROTESTANT" churches left today. If her church, the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod doesnt cave in to Catholic pressure, many more members will be leaving. The Catholic church hasnt changed. It still wants to dominate the world and put to death all who oppose her. Rome is the apocalyptic anti-Christ.
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I'm sorry, but what church keeps an official membership roster? You either are or are not a person of faith - that isn't something that can be assigned to you by paying membership dues.
The Bachmanns are simply bad people. I know that seems simplistic, but when you act to limit the freedoms of others through lies, you are a textbook Sociopath. So Michelle and Marcus Bachmann use their pulpit to try to take away the freedom to marry whoever you want and to love whoever you want, they are simply following their paths as bad human beings.
All these Truths can be found in the original Hebrew Writings that Accept Yeshua Mashiach, but so many Bibles have been translated to suit the religion and the heirarchy of that religion and so don't give The Truth about clergy and who really chooses and in Peters writings this is said who does and its not the catholics. Infact catholic is not even in The Bible at all so this is an invention of the catholics. All Our Salvation has happened in The Hebrew Writing and not latin. I feel very sorry for most of the catholic clergy as they really don't know The Truth but then many do and mislead the innocent.
What the catholic clergy religion is doing is not the will of God but the will of man and this is The Tower of Babel and even a Framciscan monk gives talks to people that the catholics are just this, they built a 'tower' to worshp God but yet do their own will.
I don't belong to a religion I belong to The Good God
you need ask a simple question, why did Yeshua Our Saviour teach the everday people directly, because He knew that if He taught It to the clergy first they would distort His Teachings to suit themselves and even though that was then human nature is the same, so same play different actors.
Plain and simple, this woman is OFF HER ROCKER.....
Not off her rocker, empowered by the attention to the point of being an out of the closet sociopath
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A spokesperson today said candidate Michele Bachmann, having recently left her church behind, is converting to Islam.
Bachmann is also leaving her latent-gay, flaccid husband Marcuthhh so that she can be free to pursue musician Yousef Islam (Cat Stevens). Bachmann is guoted as saying "I've always liked his music. You know what they say about musical men and their trombones..." and "As a Muslim and POuTUS, I could solve our terrorism problems once and for all. There's no way Al Kaida and his countrymen will attack a country with a Muslim leader. This will help me get elected in other ways too. In fact, it might be the only way I can get more than the teabagger vote and pull in anything from Obama's liberal base."
Yousef Islam (Stevens) was heard to say "No way, dude, no friggin way. That leathery old haggis wouldn't have made it as my groupie even when she was 20, no matter how good her oratory skills are."
Wow. How do you spell Al-Qeada again?
oops al-Qaeda
I have always thought that attending a non'denimational church was something of a copout. You want to consider yourself a Christian but don't wish to have to conform to any standards. Leaves you free to do all sorts of things with little to no qualms becuase , "my church does not have standards."
Also, they attend when their schedule permits? I can see where the priorities are there! Haven't attended their church in two years? That is what most people call unchurched. And she probably wants the religious vote! Not mine!
@Haime52
Really – those wishy washy non-denominational churches.
If you don't pick a specific sect of Christianity, how will you know who to condemn to hell from a fiery pulpit?
Sounds like the Holy Spirit hasn't spoken directly to you. Yes YOU. If Jesus hasn't come to you in your dreams after a night of partying and excess, he doesn't love you. I suggest a Unitarian Church. See if they'll take you in.
Americans should stop talking about nuking stuff. Once it's done by anyone, the whole planet will be affected and polluted. Well, it will sure eliminate atheists' worry over overpopulation. Overpopulation is a groundless myth created by selfish fattened narcissies.
You're really trolling today, oh she of a thousand names.
Overpopulation is a myth?
200 years ago, there were 1 Billion people.
100 years ago, there were 2 Billion people.
50 years ago, there were 3 Billion
Today there are 7 Billion.
By the middle of this century, we will face a malthusian catastrophe.
Adding to the population list:
24 billion chickens,1.3. billion cows and one quadrillion ants in the world. Anyone for some fried ants?
I know nobody here actually wrote about nuking things – I hear you Americans talking about nuking things in my head. I hear American voices in my head, and they are evil, so you are evil. Jesus is in my head too, and he smites all you evil atheist Americans in my head, smites them with his lake of fire. Jesus just picks up that lake and smites everyone. But he doesn't burn his hands because he uses his special asbestos Jesus gloves that he keeps in my ead too. There's a lot of stuff in my head, which must be why my brain hurts, like Michele Bachmann, a true Christian. All true Christians' brains hurt. So I am saved, and you're heading for the big lake of fire smiting in my head.
I need to go lay down for a while.
Zeldalina's falling.The hoary, rotting old branches are coming down.
The second Sound Forest is a fake. @Doc V-, the planet can contain and sustain billions more. Population control happens naturally. We existing mankind just need humbler lifestyle, that's all.
Population control happens naturally.
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True enough. No one mates with ugly ole trolls.
BTW, why is it that EVERYONE with a sense of humor is going to hell ? Sounds like a much better party.
Saving Christians from the Infamous Resurrection Con:
From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."
Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.
To wit;
From a major Catholic university's theology professor’s grad school white-board notes:
"Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.
Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.
Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.
The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.
Only Luke's Gospel records it. The Assumption ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "
"In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."
http://eternal-word.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN.HTM
With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:
o An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,
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o "Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."
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o p.168. by Ted Peters:
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Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "
o So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, covered with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.
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MY BRAIN HURTS! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
That's why I am qualified to authorize the launch of nuclear missiles.
I miss the "I'm Not A Witch" Tea-Slut. She was a much more entertaining loser than this loser.
WELS and LCMS don't allow women to vote in church government or hold positions "over" men. Would they freak out if Bachmann is elected President? St. Paul Pioneer Press used to have a former Lutheran pastor writing a religious issues column. He constantly poked fun at both Wisconsin and Missouri Synods, urging the women in those churches to refuse to make coffee and cookies if they could not be equal to men. The ancient Spartan women took a more direct approach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGSvqMBj-ig
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Only bad Americans hate her.
Are you an adult?
Alzheimer's is a terrible curse.
Only stupid people like you like her! Better bad than stupid. Stupid can't be cured!
She's just trying to cut ties with them because they spew hate. The majority of Americans I would hope don't agree with a lot of her beliefs.
If this idiot is somehow elected to the Presidency of the United States, I will move the couple hundred miles North of where I am into Canada. Her election will simply prove that America is just another civilization going down the tubes much like Rome, Greece, and all the others who have come and gone.
She just said on the national news : (re her migraine headaches)
"My ability to function effectively will not affect my ability to be commander-in-chief".
Say what ? OMG !!! I guess that means she has neither. 😈
A lack of ability to function never bothered W Bush as commander in chief . . . COUGH COUGH COUGH!!!!!!!!
Reagan was senile during his second term.
The only requirements for being president are a minimum age of 35 and being born in the US.
Critical thinking skills, a functional memory and/or the ability to string together a cogent sentence are demonstrably not.
Leaving a Lutheran congregation, officially, is pretty informal: you ask that the church you belonged to transfers your membership to the Lutheran church you're joining. If you're leaving the denomination then the church you were a member of simply removes you from its membership roll.