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Amid American church abuse scandal, Philadelphia stands out
New Philadelphia Archbishop Charles Chaput and outgoing Philadelphia Archbishop Justin Rigali.
July 19th, 2011
03:33 PM ET

Amid American church abuse scandal, Philadelphia stands out

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

(CNN) - Accusations and revelations of sex abuse by Roman Catholic priests have been hitting American cities for a solid decade.

The now-global scandal broke in a big way in 2002 in Boston and has ensnared dioceses from Los Angeles to Kansas City to Memphis, along with many others.

But Philadelphia, where Archbishop Justin Rigali stepped down Tuesday - five months after the scandal struck his city - is different.

Pope accepts resignation of Philadelphia archbishop amid sex scandal

The scandal there could open a historic chapter in the abuse crisis, church watchers say, changing the way the American criminal justice system deals with church abuse and challenging the church’s claims that that reforms adopted in the wake of the Boston scandal have largely rooted out abuse.

“What makes Philadelphia devastating is allegations that priests who were facing credible accusation of sex abuse were still working in parishes as recently as February,” CNN senior Vatican analyst John Allen said. “This is not about misconduct that happened 50 years go. This is about the failures of today.”

The scandal hit Philadelphia five months ago, when a grand jury charged four priests and a parochial school teacher with raping and assaulting boys in their care.

The charges were unusual because they went beyond accusations against priests. A church higher-up was charged with covering up the abuse, which church experts say had never happened in the United States before.

But the grand jury also took the unusual step of releasing a report alleging that as many as 37 priests remained in ministry in Pennsylvania despite credible accusations of abuse.

Although the abuse alleged in the grand jury report happened more than a decade ago, accusations that accused priests remained active challenged the church line that reforms adopted by American bishops in the wake of the Boston scandal had largely stamped out abuse.

The American bishops’ reforms, adopted in 2002, include a zero-tolerance approach toward priests who are known to have abused children; mandatory reporting of abuse allegations to authorities; and the creation of local boards of lay Catholics to respond to such allegations.

But the allegations of the grand jury report raise doubts about the application of those standards.

“The story that the Catholic bishops have tried to tell is that, yes, the sex abuse crisis is terrible, but it’s in the past,” Allen said. “They say they’ve been called into account and cleaned up their act. Some have even argued that the church has become a social model for protecting children from abuse.”

Jeffrey Anderson, a lawyer who has represented hundreds of abuse victims in church lawsuits, says the grand jury report shows that the church is “singing a different tune but taking the same kind of actions to protect themselves.”

“Philadelphia demonstrates that abuse is every bit the current problem that it was in the past,” Anderson said. “There has been no fundamental change.”

The four priests and parochial school teacher charged in Philadelphia are pleading not guilty.

Rigali had initially challenged the claim that as many as 37 allegedly abusive priests remained active in the archdiocese, but eventually, 29 of them were placed on administrative leave. No further investigations were conducted on the remaining eight.

Allen says that many American bishops are waiting to see how the Philadelphia archdiocese responds to accusations about the priests named in grand jury report but that if abuse allegations are born out, there is likely to be widespread anger.

“You’ll find a lot of bishops who are outraged because they worked hard to apply the 2002 reforms,” he said. “They’ll realize that their credibility is under attack and badly damaged because of Philadelphia.”

In charging a church official with covering up abuse, the Philadelphia cases could also establish a national precedent for authorities holding the church hierarchy responsible for abuse.

Patrick Wall, a consultant to church abuse victims who says he is helping Philadelphia’s district attorney build a case against the archdiocese, hopes the threat of prison time will change the way American bishops respond to abuse allegations in a way that civil lawsuits have not.

"In the civil cases, we have taken over $3 billion, but you're not getting a lot of change in the system," he says.

Anderson says that he’s representing roughly two dozen abuse victims in suits against the Philadelphia archdiocese.

“Some have sought our help for years, but we weren’t able to help them because of the statute of limitations,” he said. “The grand jury report gave us a new legal basis to bring claims of cases we otherwise wouldn’t have been able to do.

“And because of all the publicity,” Anderson said, “a lot of other survivors have come forward.”

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Catholic Church • Crime • Pennsylvania • Sex abuse

soundoff (291 Responses)
  1. guster

    @Ed....Agreed. Should we throw awat the office of the Presidency because Clinton was commiting adultery in office?

    July 19, 2011 at 5:54 pm |
    • Ed

      That was kind of my point to william we can't get rid of the whole becasue of a few parts of any organization and to blame the whole is unfair. Most of the presidents behaved in office or at least hide it better so balme all of them for what Bill did would not be fair. Blame all teachers for the few that molest children nit fair. and like it or not blaming the whole church for the few that molest children not fair. This does not excuse the act but blames those responsible not all.

      July 19, 2011 at 5:58 pm |
    • Jesus

      Lousy analogy. Getting the Catholic Church to liquidate its assets and become defunct is very much like ending fascism in 1945 or crippling the Mafia in the last decade. This is a very sick organization designed to further its personal ambitions. Ask yourself, what other organization would elect as its leader a former Hitler Youth leader?

      July 20, 2011 at 8:46 am |
    • William Demuth

      President Clinton did not bugger little boys and then warn them their mothers would burn in hell if they told anyone.

      July 20, 2011 at 11:50 am |
    • Ed

      @Hesus so we are still whining about something he did when he was 12 and had no real choice get or the Hitler youth crap already he was a kid in Nazi Germany it was pratically required. It doesn't mena he agreed just need to fit in. If you're going to continue to hold it against him then you need to hate all Germanys because of what the Nazi's did and germany as a nation let them. It was 70 years ago get over it.

      July 20, 2011 at 11:56 am |
  2. Peter Q Wolfe

    Whoa, traditios of men like the communion like the other protestants perform you mean? Sorry all versions of christians have traditions whether baptism for symbology or not its still true. Oh, the same protestants who allow gay marriage explicitly against the Bible or the hypocracy over contraceptives prior to 1930 or the hypocracy of allowing women to be preachers? Maybe that beautiful cult of protestants called mormons (a.k.a morons) you mean for example?

    July 19, 2011 at 5:53 pm |
  3. Gullible

    If you allow your child to be with a priest, you deserve a life sentence. How on earth can you morons think this sick crap is an isolated incident. There were more gays at the Pope's funeral then all of New York's Gay Pride Parades combined. Deal with it. If you let your kids be alone with religious people, they WILL be molested. Not sure how much more evidence you need other than a video of your little boy being corn holed. But then again, if you are religious, you probably would like that.

    July 19, 2011 at 5:53 pm |
    • Impressed

      I see you are leading the way on the path to understanding, mutual respect, and positive progress toward creating a safe environment for our nation's children. Keep up the good work, my brother.

      July 19, 2011 at 6:02 pm |
    • Jessica

      Wow, you're extremely ignorant. The cases are less than one percent of all priests. As someone who knows many priests and religious nuns, and who has been around them for more time than you've probably been alive, I can say knowledgeably that you have some growing up to do.

      July 19, 2011 at 6:04 pm |
    • Jennifer

      Gullible: hmmmm.............seems thou doth protest too much. Maybe you know something about......how did you so beautifully describe it??......oh yes.....corn holing.

      July 19, 2011 at 6:38 pm |
    • Impressed

      Jessica that was sarcasm

      July 19, 2011 at 7:57 pm |
  4. justathought

    Would it be well if any celeberities, or professionals who may have an infuence in the lives of children, including politicans, who are convicted of any illegal $ ex -al crime, including adultry, lose their position and be banned from, any activity in which they may have an influence on childern, for lifes? "As the leaders go, so go the followers." This world is already a cesspool of $ ex-ual misbehavior, is there any reason to let it get worse?

    July 19, 2011 at 5:51 pm |
  5. Peter Q Wolfe

    I would hope that all church officials are locked up and have the key thrown away for good! I go to a local parish and the money goes to african missions where I think such things don't occur in Uganda or at least I'd hope not. I've never heard anything remotely similar in southern catholic areas unlike thNortheeast or California or even Kansas as it doesn't occur like the Pastor Eddie Long in Atlanta, Georgia. Hopefully God won't judge others unless you be judged.

    July 19, 2011 at 5:50 pm |
    • Jesus

      The Catholic Church should be more accurately named the Church of Perpetual Self-Indulgence. Look at the ostentatious wealth on display in the Vatican and in mega Churches throughout the planet. These folks are a power elite who enjoy their perks including pediphilia.

      July 20, 2011 at 8:50 am |
  6. Jennifer

    As a member of the Archdiocese of Phila my whole life, I can tell you the majority of people I have spoken to regarding the change in leadership in Phila. is a big. fat. bored..............SIGH............ They are trying to do a bit of CYA by bringing in a new Cardinal. I say "leadership" with a slight smirk, because not too many folks actually "follow the leader". The Church needs to come out of the Dark Ages and listen to it's parishioners.......but, wait..........it is an organization run by old, gray haired men. They won't listen. Your toes would curl if you read the Grand Jury report released in 2005 explaining in great detail the abuse that occurred to many Philadelphia Catholic school children.

    July 19, 2011 at 5:48 pm |
    • Gullible

      Jennifer,
      Why didn't you do something about this terrible horror? Hope you can sleep at night. Right, you didn't know. Billy went in happy, and came out quiet. Hum, seems all the kids do. Oh well, let us pray.

      July 19, 2011 at 5:59 pm |
    • Jessica

      Actually, one would not even believe how many young priests there are at the moment. Most in the US seminaries are in their 20's and 30's.

      July 19, 2011 at 6:09 pm |
    • Jennifer

      Gullible: FYI, I did do something about it. And because I did speak out, one of the three priests who was defrocked was because I spoke out. One of the things I learned in Catholic school was to never assume (like you did above)

      July 19, 2011 at 6:28 pm |
    • Jennifer

      Jessica, that is not the case in Philadelphia. I used to live across the street from St. Charles Seminary in Phila. At one time there were hundreds of Seminarians. Today a huge portiion of the building is used for administrative purposes. I hope the young Seminarians you are speaking about in other parts of the country can make some changes in the Church.

      July 19, 2011 at 6:33 pm |
    • Jessica

      The young seminarians are really wonderful Jennifer, especially in dioceses south of you. I know that although it's a small percentage of priests who are committing these crimes, the seminaries were different prior to the 2000's. Formation was not nearly as good as it is today. Of course, that shouldn't be the cause, but it is a fact. I'm just a a little upset with some of these extremely generalized posts about priests in general because I know personally of many very devoted young seminarians and priests who would never commit such a crime.

      July 19, 2011 at 6:44 pm |
    • Jennifer

      Jessica: Maybe these new Seminarians will be able to make the changes the Church needs. I am so disillusioned with the Church, but maybe it is because of the extreme abuse that has taken place in Philadelphia (and Boston is just as bad). I volunteered in my Parish for many years and know many dedicated and good priests. My heart goes out to them. I think a large part of the problem is in the hierarchy of the Church. And, I also think that women should play a much bigger role in the running of the Church, and not just on a local level. The Church is too male dominated. And I am not a man-hater.....just being realstic.

      July 19, 2011 at 6:57 pm |
    • JT

      If you are convinced of talking snakes and zombies then you can be convinced that r@ping children isn't really that bad. You Christians are truly disgusting.

      July 19, 2011 at 9:39 pm |
    • Jennifer

      JT – do you bother to actually read the posts?? You knucklehead.

      July 19, 2011 at 10:13 pm |
    • Bucky Ball

      You CAN read it.

      July 19, 2011 at 11:18 pm |
  7. Simon

    Ultimately we are more interested in figuring out who to blame than in fixing the problem.

    July 19, 2011 at 5:48 pm |
  8. BL

    This isn't Catholic bashing, but the root problem is organized religion, in this case Christianity. The facade of the Church is so removed from the teaching of Jesus as to be irrelevant and meaningless. Jesus was about total transformation of Spirit. Church is about ritual, process, dogma, mythology, hierarchy and materialism

    July 19, 2011 at 5:33 pm |
    • wikiIeaks

      actually, catholicism only claims christianity. They are not really christians because their beliefs and traditions and corruption go completely contrary to TRUE chrisitanity.

      July 19, 2011 at 5:43 pm |
    • dalis

      wikileaks Catholicism IS Christianity. Whether or not individual Catholics can claim to be true followers of Christ is another story.

      July 19, 2011 at 6:52 pm |
    • JT

      But are you a True Christian®?

      July 19, 2011 at 9:41 pm |
  9. Brian

    I have noticed something interesting. Most "Catholic bashers" are former Catholics.

    July 19, 2011 at 5:32 pm |
  10. St. Mike

    The fault rests with the Pope. If he helped cover it all up – he should be run out. If he didn't know about it – he can't be the Vicar of Christ. Either way – he needs to go, and the RCC must crumble. Let Christ's true church lead his followers.

    July 19, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
    • Jesus

      Your Vicar of Christ swore allegiance to Adolf Hitler in 1942 and then bailed out in 1944 when the war was lost for Germany. Herr Josef Ratzinger is the quintessential chameleon.

      July 20, 2011 at 8:58 am |
  11. SoSad

    Rick Perry, will you invite some of these butt huggers to your prayer meeting, ask God and let me know. They have a "calling" for some rear entry! Just sssay the word "thank you Jesus"

    July 19, 2011 at 5:19 pm |
  12. Erin

    Left the Catholic Church almost 10 years ago. Guilt check---Nope, still no guilt over that.

    July 19, 2011 at 5:03 pm |
    • Jessica

      That's okay. Confession often helps with hardness of heart.

      July 19, 2011 at 6:06 pm |
    • trevbo

      You are always welcome back. And I do not mean that in a sarchastic manner.

      July 19, 2011 at 10:24 pm |
  13. coder

    I wonder if Bachman's "pray your DNA away" works on priests too – oh wait its a priest leading that prayer
    So this isnt a misunderstanding like the pope and galileo – This is an actual church ordained coverup
    Color me surprised – the church doing something dishonest, indifferent, or down right insane
    Between money and religion – I cant figure out which is the most indignant for mankind

    July 19, 2011 at 5:00 pm |
    • Bucky Ball

      Hey coder. If you are a medical coder, how do you think he codes those "reparative" visits ?

      July 19, 2011 at 5:10 pm |
    • BL

      Either in the 290-300's for mental disorder or possibly a V code for encounter for psychological screening.

      July 19, 2011 at 5:30 pm |
    • Bucky Ball

      If it's a 290-300, and the DSM has no accompanying disorder, is that not fraud ?

      July 19, 2011 at 6:59 pm |
  14. William Demuth

    All one need do is read the postings of Christians on this sight and one thing will immediately become apparent.

    These children are sacrificial lambs. They could be buggered and have their throats slit in front of the Pope and nothing would be done.

    These children are victims of a cult, just as sure as the people in Wacko or Jonestown were, and without aggressive intervention of the courts and secular government, the molestation of the innocents shall continue.

    Where is our government? This would be an embarrassment in a third world country, but here in the US it is nothing less than an abomination

    July 19, 2011 at 4:51 pm |
    • DamianKnight

      No offense, but this isn't an American problem. This is a global problem. The Vatican isn't even in America. Unless you're intending to imply that only American priests are involved in child molestation.

      Frankly, I think if you were to base the amount of child molesters in any other profession with the ones in the church, it would be about the same. That's not to excuse these priests from their atrocious behavior, nor does it excuse the Catholic Church from their complicit behavior in moving the priests around. But let's not pretend this is a Catholicism problem, and state this is a human problem.

      July 19, 2011 at 5:50 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Damian

      I do not concern myself with other countries.

      However in MY country this behavior warrants prosecution and probably execution.

      Seculat America has got to stand up and summarily reject this through ACTION, by weeding out the guilty and the complicit and making examples of them for the whole world to see.

      Alas we shall not, because we are children who fear imaginary gods and permit children to be sacrificed to them.

      July 20, 2011 at 9:01 am |
  15. BobZemko

    Why aren't the ones who covered up the scandals in jail, too?

    July 19, 2011 at 4:48 pm |
    • Ed

      because they have not been convicted of a crime yet. Thats a matter for the courts and American courts move slow. If they are quilty hopefully they will pay the full price.

      July 19, 2011 at 4:51 pm |
    • William Demuth

      What of the fools in the pews who keep pumping more cash into this corrupt church?

      How do we see THEM held accoutable?

      Here is an idea! Revoke this devilish churches tax exempt status!!

      July 19, 2011 at 4:59 pm |
    • Brian

      If you locked up the people who helped cover it up, you would have to lock up the Pope as well. Without the Pope who would tell them which God to pray to and give them forgiveness? Hmm, what would Jesus say? My prediction is that it'll be something like 'I know you not'.

      July 19, 2011 at 5:11 pm |
    • Jimmy K

      @ William Demuth
      Your thought process is about is functional as a square wheel. 20 year old catholic that believes in the core values and teachings of catholicism. To think that anyone not associated with this scandal should be held accountable for practicing a religion they believe in is ignorant, irrispoinsible, and un-American.

      July 19, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Jimmy

      We don't allow people to engage in anti social behavior through peer pressure.

      This organization has tolerated the buggering of children.

      Therefore if YOU support it, then YOU are complicit in harming children.

      We collectively reject cults all the time, and this one is well past the point of deserving it.

      July 20, 2011 at 8:54 am |
  16. Thomas

    OH MY LORD!!!!!! They are sending Chaput to Philly????? There goes the Diocese......CAPUT !!!!!!!!!!

    July 19, 2011 at 4:47 pm |
    • procchi

      What do you know about Chaput, Thomas? Or are you just making a play on words?

      July 19, 2011 at 5:16 pm |
    • Jesus

      Chaput makes Michele Bachmann sound like an intelligent and thoughtful scholar. He signals a return to the old Father Coughlin (1930s) type of Preisthood. On the other hand, who else would a former Hitler Youth want to appoint?

      July 20, 2011 at 9:04 am |
  17. updock

    It's about time Rigali got put out to pasture. He has had his head in the sand since he got to Phila., and has done his best to blame and deny everything "bad" that was said about him, his administration, and the Archdiocese as a whole. the best thing to happen to the Church in Philadelphia is him leaving.

    July 19, 2011 at 4:46 pm |
  18. BORED WITH THE VATICAN

    WHY DO PEOPLE LISTEN TO THESE LYING CLOSET CASES WHO MASQUERADE AS PRIESTS, BISHOPS, CARDINALS AND POPE? HOCUS POCUS INDEED!

    July 19, 2011 at 4:42 pm |
  19. wendy5

    another perv; they can never fix what they have done; and you people bowing to them and putting money in their plates are just as disgusting and to blame;

    July 19, 2011 at 4:42 pm |
  20. Reality

    Why did today's pope, prelates, preachers and rabbis, so focused on society's se-xual sins, lose sight of clerical se-xual sins?
    "
    FEAR, SHAME and GUILT and COVER IT ALL UP!!!

    Obviously ordination in any religion is not assurance of good behavior !!!!!

    Neither is coronation!!! e.g. Henry VIII, King David.

    Neither is marriage as 50% of those men convicted of pedophilia are married.

    Neither is being elected president of the USA!! e.g. Billy "I did not have se-x with that girl" Clinton, John "Marilyn Monroe" Kennedy"

    Neither is possessing super athletic skill!!! e.g. Tiger "I am so sorry for getting caught" Woods.

    Neither is being an atheist or pagan since pedophilia is present in all walks of life.

    If someone is guilty of a crime in this litany of "neithers" they should or should have been penalized as the law dictates to include jail terms for pedophiliacs (priests, rabbis, evangelicals, boy scout leaders, married men/women), divorce for adultery (Clinton, Kennedy, Woods), jail terms for obstruction of justice (Clinton, Cardinal Law, Cardinal Rigali?) and the death penalty or life in prison for murder ("Kings David and Henry VIII).

    July 19, 2011 at 3:41 pm |
    • Ed

      Ok this is rare but I have to agree with you

      July 19, 2011 at 3:49 pm |
    • Bucky Ball

      Ed ! Where have you been ? Was worried about you.

      July 19, 2011 at 4:27 pm |
    • Ed

      really didn't expect to be missed, actually thought i heard champaign corks popping

      July 19, 2011 at 4:34 pm |
    • chief

      well put, except... Tiger included with peds, accessories to murder, etc... if being a man-ho is a crime, then i dont want to be right....

      July 19, 2011 at 4:38 pm |
    • Ed

      @Chief, I think realities point is people should be held accountable for their actions that would include Tiger. I don't think he inteneded to lump him in with murders and pedos just sya he should be accountable for his actions. Damn now I'm defending Reality. This day is get surreal.

      July 19, 2011 at 4:49 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Reality

      I wish you embraced your name.

      None of the people you mention are tax exempt organization that claim to be of divine origin.

      Churches are at best scams, but this one is EVIL, and needs to be brought down.

      The tens of thousands of molestation victims alone are enough to warrant it dismemberment.

      July 19, 2011 at 4:56 pm |
    • Ed

      @William, "The tens of thousands of molestation victims alone are enough to warrant it dismemberment" so lets close every school,, every day day care, every preschool, every other organization were a feew people behave badly. Most of the clergy does not molest children or condon or cover it up. Stop blame the whole for the actions of a few. This does not excuse the few they should be tried and if convict punished but the church as a whole did not do it.

      You blame all catholics for the actions of a few. Using your standard America and all other nations should be destroyed because some peole in the nationds commit evil acts. Human kind should be destroyed because some humans commit evil acts. It the same logic and just as unrealistic.

      July 19, 2011 at 5:14 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Ed

      You are an apologist for men who bugger boys.

      Your claim of moral equivalence would be immaterial even if it was true, and YOU know it is not true.

      The majority of priests are deviants that produce no goods and provide no service and are a drain on our society and modernity.

      This cult must be brought down, and the guilty must be held accountable

      July 20, 2011 at 9:06 am |
    • Ed

      @William,

      Your sweeping generalization prove you wrong. You obviously know very little about the church or its priests. I agree the guilty need to be held accountable but its nit right to blame the entire group for the actions of a few.

      Unless you have something of value to add other then your hate mongering rhetoric leave me be

      July 20, 2011 at 12:03 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Ed

      I know more of your church than most of your preachers. I have studied it in detail for half a century. I have read your book of lies dozens of times and I recognize it for the evil it is.

      And I shall NOT leave anyone who promotes that cult alone.

      July 20, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
    • Reality

      A summary of the major cults and a bottom liner:

      1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

      “New Torah For Modern Minds

      Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

      Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

      The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment. “

      2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

      The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.

      earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

      For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

      Current RCC problems:

      Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

      3., Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).

      Current problems:
      Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

      3. Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

      This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.

      And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

      Current crises:

      The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

      5. Hinduism (from an online Hindu site) – "Hinduism cannot be described as an organized religion. It is not founded by any individual. Hinduism is God centered and therefore one can call Hinduism as founded by God, because the answer to the question ‘Who is behind the eternal principles and who makes them work?’ will have to be ‘Cosmic power, Divine power, God’."

      The caste/laborer system, reincarnation and cow worship/reverence are problems when saying a fair and rational God founded Hinduism."

      Current crises:

      The caste system and cow worship/reverence.

      6. Buddhism- "Buddhism began in India about 500 years before the birth of Christ. The people living at that time had become disillusioned with certain beliefs of Hinduism including the caste system, which had grown extremely complex. The number of outcasts (those who did not belong to any particular caste) was continuing to grow."

      "However, in Buddhism, like so many other religions, fanciful stories arose concerning events in the life of the founder, Siddhartha Gautama (fifth century B.C.):"

      Archaeological discoveries have proved, beyond a doubt, his historical character, but apart from the legends we know very little about the circu-mstances of his life. e.g. Buddha by one legend was supposedly talking when he came out of his mother's womb.

      Bottom line: There are many good ways of living but be aware of the hallucinations, embellishments, lies, and myths surrounding the founders and foundations of said rules of life.

      Then, apply the Five F rule: "First Find the Flaws, then Fix the Foundations". And finally there will be religious peace and religious awareness in the world!!!!!

      July 20, 2011 at 4:44 pm |
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