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July 21st, 2011
04:22 PM ET
Hindu diners sue Indian restaurant for selling meat samosas
By Moni Basu and Chelsea Bailey, CNN (CNN) - A small tray of vegetable samosas costs $35 at the Mughal Express restaurant. But one particular tray, sold to strict Hindu vegetarians, might end up costing the Edison, New Jersey, restaurant a whole lot more. The Hindu customers said the restaurant served them meat samosas, harming them emotionally and spirituality. A state appellate court ruled Wednesday that they can sue for the cost of travel to India to purify their souls. Two summers ago, Durgesh Gupta and Sharad Agrawal walked into the popular Mughal Express on Oak Tree Road, in the heart of Edison's Indian community, and ordered samosas. They were strict vegetarians, they said in making sure there was no meat in their order of the traditional Indian snack. Gupta said a restaurant employee assured them that it did not make meat samosas, according to court documents. A half-hour later, the two men picked up a tray labeled "VEG samosas." But after Gupta and his group of 16 people began eating the triangular deep-fried pastries, they grew concerned they were eating meat. When they went to return the uneaten samosas, the restaurant said it had made a mistake, court documents showed. Yes, the vegetarians had consumed meat and believed they were complicit in inflicting death and injury to God's creatures. They sued Mughal Express but a lower court deemed they did not have a case - until this week, when the appellate court reversed that decision. What the 16 Hindus want is compensation for a trip to the Hindu holy town of Haridwar, India, where the Ganges begins its downward flow to the ocean. There, they want to take dips in the river and, by Hindu belief, cleanse their souls of sin. And they want the restaurant to pay for it all. K. Raja Bhattacharya, the lawyer for the vegetarian diners, and David Novack, an attorney representing the restaurant, both declined comment because the case is ongoing. In 2002, McDonald's Corp. paid $10 million to Hindu, vegetarian and other groups in order to settle a lawsuit against the company for failing to disclose that beef flavoring was used in French fries. The company began advertising the fries were vegetarian after they switched to vegetable oil to reduce cholesterol, but the fries contained small amounts of beef flavoring added at the processing plant. But the McDonald’s case may have been more compelling because it was not just an isolated incident of accidental service of meat, said Suhag Shukla, legal council for the Hindu American Foundation. The Mughal Express customers who sued thought it otherwise. An Indian restaurant should have been more sensitive to this issue, they argued. Still, some Hindus felt the diners were taking things too far. They doubted whether there was any karmic debt associated with the consumption of meat. Pradip Kothari, president of the Indo-American Cultural Society in Edison, suggested the diners could easily go to a temple to cleanse their souls. Indian-Americans have much to be grateful for in America, he said, and the lawsuit takes advantage of a U.S. judicial system that has afforded them individual protections. "I understand how they feel," Kothari said. "I myself am a Hindu. But this is hypocrisy of the law." And of religion, he said. "If you are a true religious person, God teaches you to forgive." He did not know the diners, he said, but they should be ashamed for bringing a bad name not just to Hindus but to the As for Mughal Express, there were no non-vegetarian samosas on the online menu Thursday. soundoff (1,722 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 Next »
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Differance, serving dog, is ILLIGAL. Serving meat to a vegan IS NOT ILLIGAL.
Mickey1313
Please learn to spell!!
i wish 'text yelling' with wrong spelling was illegal tho.
Not its not illegal... it maybe in Taiwan. Not in the US. Stop lying you idiot. You should be served dog meat just for that.
It's "legal" to do a lot of things, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's ethical, right, or OK. What can possibly be more annoying than someone who complains about other people's personal beliefs. Go find another country to live in of you are so intolerant.
first off, sorry for misspelling word when im typeing in a minimized window, while doing my real work (with the spell checker) second off, to serve dog in a restraunt is concitered (sub standard cuts of meat, and your restraunt will be closed down, my fav chiniese restraunt was closed for this reason, and so i did probibly have/enjoy dog.
Aw, screw them, and the sacred cow they rode in on.
ya screw the cows.. let's eat bacon and blow something up.
मारा को तुमारा माँ का समाने,. ठुम तुमारा माँ को चूठेका गनुद पाक्की चूतिया
Sunil Bhai ...go ahead and use your Hindi chicken scratch to hide your pathetic words....your impotent threats are as futile as your attempts to remove the curry stink from your body
this is crap, the seporation of chruch and state, clearly means that they are not lible for thers "magical beliefs" and if they could prove a soul, and prove it is "dirty" that would be one thing. But to pay for them to have a vacation to the motherland is absurd. All thiests are fools.
Separation.
And this has nothing to do with separation of church and state since it's a PRIVATE restaurant and not a gov't run restaurant!
I do not believe in organized religion or god either, but you are the one who sounds like the fool. Your comments are no more than incoherent rants!
i can guarantee that almost all of you people who are surprised that hindus are suing the restaurant would do the same if you found out that your local burger king served you doggie burger instead of beef patties. bwahahahaha
Hmmm, you seem to have this unhealthy fixation with dog meat. I suggest 20 CC's of thorazine and a baretta.
no, but, I'd have them shut down by McDonalds
The article make sme hungry for Ruth's Chriss or Morton's
Ohhhhh yes. Definately!
hey white boys/gals,
i know beef is awesome...i eat a lot of it. but you know what is more awesome? dog meat. when i was in china, i had dog steak...it was much higher in protein, and lesser in fat. you hypocrites should try that...yum.
you're a racist so we don't really care what you think
Hate hate hate, thats all you have in you. Try some lovin' darlin'.
Woof! Woof!
Tastes like chicken!
Why do you Hindoos raep children
. I bet watu kama wewe kula kitu chochote, Sisi tayari najua wewe kufanya kitu chochote. .
if it were not illigal in the US I would, meat is meat.
that's why it's still considered '3rd world'
@Pakistani – First learn to spell right. Don't blame you, your country is the dumps full of uneducated morons.
The issues here are (a) whether they were harmed, and (b)whether their proposed solution is the only remedy.
For (a) Really Orthodox Hindu's don't eat out- Hindu vegetarianism is like keeping kosher. Vegetarian food has to be cooked and eaten with separate utensils. As for (b), it's not written in Hindu scriptures, and it's not common custom, to return to India to purify yourself in the Ganges. I can't think of any situation this has ever come up as a solution, where there wasn't a lawsuit involved.
not to mention, you must prove wrong doing, aka damage to the "soul". Since they can provide no evidance in our SECULAR court system, then it is ludicrous for them to be able to sue. I would counter sue for defimation if they win this.
They should take the money from this lawsuit and provide free treatment for this obvious delusion about food and religion. Do you really believe there is a magic spirit in the sky that oversees all the people on the planet and is concerned about what food you eat? Not only is that capricious but it is egocentric and arrogant.
You are on your own. The only choice you have is to stay stupid or gain knowledge. It is entirely up to you
This is why Christianity is superior. In Acts, God told Peter that because of Jesus' death and Gods grace, the dietary laws no longer applied. He said in Acts, "Arise Peter Kill and Eat".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6I9yXlJ4t4
Aren't these the same people who "Honor" kill their daughters and sisters because they fall in love with the wrong "type" of person. And they think that eating the wrong food will get them in trouble?
Allow me to let you in on a little secret. No God worth worshiping would ever allow a person who kills his own daughter or sister into a 'Heaven" type place. So if you agree with Honor killings, you might want to just go ahead and order the steak......
Time: people who think they or their religion is superior needs to grow up. One who understands the real religion never feel so!!
If it really is that big of a deal if you eat even the smallest amount of meat then you should not eat at restaurants...ever. Food is a necessity, but restaurants are a luxury. Especially in the US you can easily find vegan/vegetarian friendly food at practically ever supermarket. And don't give me this "I'm too busy to cook" crap. I mean if you really think it puts your soul in danger to eat the wrong kind of food, then why would you trust someone else with it? If you go to any restaurant that has meat in it there is always the possibility that some miniscule amount of meat could accidentally get into a vegetarian dish and be consumed without anyone ever knowing it. So if you're so worried about it then you should never trust food made by some stranger in a kitchen that you can't even watch during the preparation.
May be you don't have self respect and values. There are people on earth who have values and beliefs. You are a dumb ignorant fool. Next time you go to a restaurant hope they will serve you a dead rat!!! I bet you would eat it cause you don't have values!!!
@hindu – I notice you didn't address any of the points I made but just resorted to name calling. How are you claiming to have values when all you do is call people names? So answer the question I asked above, why would you trust something that is so important to someone you don't even know and can't even watch prepare the food?
really?...your point is valid and intelligent...I totally agree.
I agree. I'm a muslim, and I've been accidentally served pork numerous times. So what? I respect their beliefs, but if it's SUCH a big deal, just don't eat out.
That would be a lame suggestion for asking someone not to go to restaurant if you are a veggie. If you don't trust people you cannot live in todays world. If you keep questioning yourself what is going on behind you it is hard to survive!!!
I am strictly vegetarian and yes, I never eat out. Never had even Pizza as some chees has fish enzymes. But I have a question about trusting strangers cooking. Would you eat and not complain say the waiter or cook spits on your burger in the kitchen and gives you or say drops it in the trash by mistake and picks it up and serves you. Really?
If the restauranteurs knew about the customers dietary restrictions (whatever the reasons for those restrictions), and guaranteed that their customers' needs would be met, then they are 100% culpable.
Right, they owe them their money back or a free meal. They don't owe them anything because ther religious convictions were violated. They have chosen to be offended.
Replace the meat story with peanuts served to a person who asked if a dish had peanuts and was told no. A free meal or money back, right ? Why don't people understand that Religious beliefs are very important to some people in the world. And its not just for Hindus – Jews, Muslims, Buddhists – name them. A free meal or refund is okay to break someone's beliefs ?
Why would anyone want beef samosas? It makes about as much sense as a beef spring roll.
What????Hell. good idea for a nice vacation. (this wasn't a beef steak, I think it might have been buffalo. You playing me?)
This case contradicts itself. To admit sin is to admit liability. If the liability falls on the owner of the restaurant, then the patrons of the restaurant have not sinned. If the sin falls on the patrons and not the owner, then the owner has no liability.
what a smart person you are! i never would have looked at it this way!
Logic does not work for everything. If I serve you beef during your Lent and you eat it inknowingly, who sinned and who is liable ? Not me. I am liable but I have not sinned because I am not a Christian.
"Unknowingly".
What, why, huh??? DEPORT!
They should consider themselves lucky the samosas were not made from spam or solyent green
Maybe they should go back to India if they want to have a beef free life.
What does eating beef have anything to do with being American.? They were picking up food from an Indian resturant, they weren't eating at Mcdonalds.
There are millions of non-Hindus who do not eat meat. To many, eating meat is as serious a crime as aborting the life of an unborn baby.
nice to see you spew hate judith...which other ethnic group do you hate? let all the hate out you xenophobe
@Judith...have you ever read anything about the McDonald's Lawsuit? That poor woman has been wrongly vilified for years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants
Using that logic, where should the rest of non-Indian vegetarian/vegan Americans go? Back to their respective countries? Furthermore, what do they do if that country is filled with mostly meat-eaters? Do they weak political asylum some other country predominantly occupied by vegetarians...like India? Genius, moveon!! All American vegetarians and vegans must be relocated to India. Thank you, move on! You must seek employment at the UN or something. Your humanitarian approach and solid logic should not be wasted!
go back to europe or africa lol native indains want to follow their traditions here!!
As a muslim pakistani i know how easily it is to put an entire culture/religion on trail for the actions of a few who often have no concept of their own religion. And hence I find it appalling the people would attack Hinduism and its adherent for the actions of a few ignorant ppl who happen to associated with the religion. This is issue has nothing to do with religious beliefs and has everything to do with profiteering. I know many hindus/mulims/jews who have had this issue of mistakenly consuming food which is unlawful in their religion in restaurants and after bringing forth the issue to the restaurant they all where given a sincere apology and where given gift certificates etc to compensate for the issue, and those who wanted to cleanse themselves simply went to their local place of worship. These ppl simply saw a way to profiteer from a mistake and hence should be looked as immoral/unethical individuals not immoral unethical hindu individuals... the religious tag should be left out of the discussion...
Now if the restaurant was arrogant and did not show respect and offered no reasonable compensation to these individuals then I can understand teaching the restaurant a lesson..
If they are that picky (ha ha) let them stay home and fix their own food....
Yes indeed. Sad, but these people are willing to have all their co-religionists labeled in order to cater to their own avarice.
Wacky632, several of the comments I have read so far are reprehensible. I hit the "Report Abuse" button several times. It seems "some people" are incapable of separating the actions of individuals from their entire communities. These same people don't question their race because of the actions of people like that Anthony woman.
Mogul should learn a lesson that customers are like gods and good treatment should be given to them. I am with the people who are suing the Mogul. This is a good message to all the resturants on Oak Tree road.
Desi guy...customers are like Gods?....sounds like your butt has never woked retail....I have some news for you guy...the customer is always right rule is the worst thing a business can do...as people are naturally stupid and if you give them free reign over your business as you feel they can do no wrong you fail to qualify them and protect them from themselves and fail to protect your business.....seen it done.... you end up with dead customers and a vacant building...
If you are a vegetarian, especially due to religious reasons, and you have been wrongly fed and ate meat, no one else can understand that extreme feeling of frustration, and helplessness and the guilt they will carry (of eating the meat) for the rest of their lives. If nothing else, at least sympathize with those people. No amount of money can make them forget it.
Its good the issue gets highlighted because of the suit, and more awareness and hopefully more careful about it.
I repeat,,,, make your own food at home and stay the heck out of restaurants!
It can definitely be very upsetting, but one suspects this particular gang is trying to get a free trip to India.
There not damn for eating meat...they wont be coming back as a cow in their next life. Lets stop the nonsense and move on with reason and reality.
Seriously, if it is that big of a deal then why are you trusting some total stranger with it? Food is a necessity, but restaurants are a luxury. You can't even see the guy in the restaurant make it in most of them so why are you trusting them with something that you say is sooooooo important?
You know, I'm usually very sympathetic to people. I was vegetarian for a year and a half. Many of my friends are vegetarian. I belong to a Unitarian Universalist congregation, and have friends of all religions. I have Jewish and Muslim friends who keep the dietary laws. I have Hindu friends who are strict vegetarians. Two of my friends are strict vegans.
I like steak. Buffalo, cow, deer. Poultry. Mmm... tasty rabbit stew. Whatever. But if my veggie friends are coming over, I can make an incredible vegan feast. Or I'll keep a simple meat dish separate from everything else, so that if someone on the guest list wants meat, they can add a simple chicken cutlet to the rest of their dinner. It's simple.
HOWEVER... as much as I respect my friends' dietary beliefs, if they want to be 100% sure of what they're eating, they need to cook it themselves or only eat food prepared by people they personally trust. A restaurant doesn't care about your emotional connections to poultry, or your aversion to pig flesh. If you want to be sure of your food, prepare it yourself. Same thing for allergies. End of story.
This lawsuit is profiteering, and it's not what the religion teaches.
Ironic isnt it. They need to take a dip in one of the worlds most polluted rivers inorder to clense their souls.
Its a fast flowing fresh water river genius! ..
Rob..The river in question is filled with dead animals, heavy metals, naturally occuring aresnic and more bacteria then a million septic tanks...So yes it is ironic to cleanse ones soul in it.......like refreshing your breath by licking a urinal clean at a truck stop...