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July 26th, 2011
03:07 PM ET

Warren Jeffs seeks to control polygamist sect from jail

Editor’s Note: CNN’s Gary Tuchman explores the latest developments in the saga of polygamist Warren Jeffs, the jailed leader of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, in a special report on tonight’s “AC 360” and for CNN Presents, airing Sunday, July 31, at 10 p.m. ET.

By David Fitzpatrick, CNN

El Dorado, Texas (CNN) - Fundamentalist Mormon leader Warren Jeffs has been held in a tiny jail in this west Texas town for roughly three years. According to his jailers, he has spent his time doing one thing above all else: talking on the phone..

Schleicher County Sheriff David Doran told CNN that in one month, Jeffs has spent roughly $3,000 on phone cards.

And while Jeffs was recently held in another Texas jail roughly 50 miles away, he spent close to $10,000 in phone cards in three months.

Reagan County Sheriff James Garner, who oversees that jail, told CNN that no inmate there has ever spent that much money on phone cards.

Authorities say Jeffs has received money from loyal followers and that he uses much of it to buy phone time to deliver lengthy sermons to acolytes in Texas, Utah and Arizona.

Some Jeffs experts say the calls are proof that he’s running his church from behind bars.

And officially, Jeffs still leads the breakaway sect called the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (FLDS), which firmly believes in polygamy.

Leaders of the mainstream Mormon church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, have repeatedly disavowed Jeffs and say his group of roughly 10,000 followers in no way represents their religion.

The official LDS church banned polygamy more than a century ago.

Jury selection for Jeff’s sexual assault trial began in Texas on Monday. He is charged with two counts of sexual assault on a child and one count of bigamy.

Jeffs has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

The Texas accusations arise mainly from a raid conducted by the Texas Rangers on an FLDS ranch a few miles from El Dorado. Authorities took hundreds of children away from the ranch for over two months before allowing them to return.

Jeffs’ lawyer, Jeff Kearney, declined to answer any of CNN’s questions about his client.

Jeffs was tried in St. George, Utah, after his arrest in 2006.

He was found guilty on two charges of being an accomplice to rape, but the conviction was overturned by an appellate court on a technicality. Jury instructions were found to have been faulty.

Utah prosecutors elected not to re-try the case but Jeffs was arrested by Texas authorities.

In all, he has been in four different jails - in Nevada, Utah and Texas - for more than five years.

Now, even some once-trusted aides of Warren Jeffs say he has betrayed his church’s principles by openly boasting of relations with girls as young as 12 or 13.

“He’s said he is a very wicked man and he’s confessed to doing some very terrible things, including molesting his daughter and sister and others,” said Willie E. Jessop, a former Jeffs associate, referring to Jeffs diaries that were admitted as evidence in his Utah trial. “I think his own words describe himself more than I would care to characterize it.”

In 2008, when the Texas Rangers raided the FLDS ranch, called the Yearning for Zion Ranch, Jessop was close to Jeffs. Jessop even opened the gates of the ranch to journalists, giving them tours to show that nothing “bad” was happening there, as he put it.

But after seeing Jeffs' diaries, Jessop tells CNN's Gary Tuchman that “his conduct will never be sanctioned by me.” Jessop showed CNN two still photographs of Jeffs kissing very young girls.

“I don’t think there’s anyone in my church that will ever sanction what he has done,” Jessop says. “It’s just a matter of time until they come to terms and figure out how to cope with what he has done.”

But in Colorado City, Arizona, an FLDS stronghold, support for Jeffs still seems strong. A few residents told CNN they had become fed up with Jeffs, but many others voiced full-throated support.

Especially striking were remarks made by an 18-year-old woman who refused to give her name but who told CNN that Jeffs meant “everything” to her.

She said she wasn’t married yet but hoped to be in the near future. And when asked if she wanted to have so-called sister wives - the term used to describe women in polygamous marriages - she said yes.

“How many sister wives would be perfect?” CNN’s Tuchman asked.

“As many as I get,” she replied.

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soundoff (359 Responses)
  1. Kris10

    Kptreal your comment made me laugh. Are you saying that gay marriage shouldn't be allowed because a child of gay parents won't choose to be straight just like a child of polygamist won't choose to marry only one other person? This argument makes no sense if you consider the fact that if this were true it would mean that no child would ever be gay if they grew up in a home with straight parents.

    July 26, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
    • atheist666

      There are always some outliers... gay marriage children or children of polygamist families, I agree with Kptreal in that it is wrong in both cases to teach children an abnormal way of life from infancy.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:56 pm |
    • Kptreal

      Hey it's about how you are brought up. If you say daddy having multiple wives that will seem normal. If you see daddy kissing your other daddy, that will seem normal too. It doesn't mean that the child will be gay or a polygamist, but it sure increases the chances, and in both cases it is wrong.

      July 26, 2011 at 7:02 pm |
    • confusicus

      @kptreal, actually that would be very confusing, imagine seeing daddy kissing daddy at home, and then the kid goes out and saw some PDA action of mummy kissin mummy and they another daddy kissing a mummy..how confusing!!!!

      July 26, 2011 at 8:41 pm |
    • pathetic

      Feel sorry for the kids of the future, for the confusion they will live with..

      July 26, 2011 at 8:45 pm |
    • Frogist

      Having gay adoptive parents won't make you gay. Do any of you have statistical proof of that? No. But there is growing scientific consensus that being gay is a matter of biological, environmental factors occurring in the womb. You are born that way! I can see how having gay parents will make you more accepting of diversity. But not just diversity regarding gays... but race and gender dversity as well. There are studies that show that phenomenon. But I honestly don't know what would be bad about that unless you're a bigot. And yes, kids get confused when they see something out of their ordinary experience, like we all do. But that is not a valid argument against gays or gay marriage.

      July 27, 2011 at 10:16 am |
    • Civiloutside

      There's something confusing about mummy or daddy kissing the person they love?

      July 27, 2011 at 10:26 am |
    • myweightinwords

      We need to stop defining "normal" to mean "my way".

      A child is no more likely to be gay being raised by gay parents than if that child were being raised by straight parents. Of the gay parents I know, which amounts to maybe 10 kids total, ranging in age from 5 to 15, only one of them appears to be gay. The others all seem, at this point, to be straight.

      As to multiple marriages...as long as all involved are of age and choosing of their own free will, and the children are loved and cared for, we should just keep our noses out.

      July 27, 2011 at 10:35 am |
  2. Larry L

    The Mormon mythology is not too much more unbelievable than the ridiculous tales the other religions spin. It's just more contemporary. The objective observation remains the same – religion is the scourge of the earth. The most current example of this comes from the peaceful nation of Norway, where a fundamental Christian gunned down innocents "in the name of Jesus". It's hard to find any region on earth where some religious fanatics aren't killing people over religion.

    July 26, 2011 at 6:52 pm |
    • atheist666

      It's pretty easy to find normal people from all cults and denominations. The hard thing is to find extremist willing to kill. Now, I don't think any church or group should get a bad name for the actions of a small group of people. However, in the case of the FLDS, it is just a plain wrong practice of marrying teenagers.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:54 pm |
    • Sam

      Modern day polygamists are not associated with "Mormons'. At one time the Mormon religion did practice polygamy but they abolished that 100 years ago. Those still practicing today are NOT of the Mormon faith.

      July 26, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
  3. mohammad

    Tribute to the heroes of all Muslims, who are too defend their country and display and death of Israelis and Jews are cowards who are too hell waiting for them on some day

    July 26, 2011 at 6:49 pm |
    • sftommy

      I like most Muslims well enough but feel Allah's hate towards you bubbling in your breast. May he lift your pain without harm to others.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:52 pm |
  4. LDSRevelations

    LDS inc does not own the term Mormon and the term accurately describes anyone who accepts Joseph Smith as a prophet, The Book of Mormon and Smith's other teachings. Not only do the FLDS qualify but there are dozens of other groups that do as well. Members of the CoJCoLDS need to get over it— they no more control the term Mormon than Evangelicals control the term Christians or Sunnis control the term Muslim.

    Polygamy while not practiced on earth is still very much an LDS doctrine and is a huge part of an LDS view of the afterlife. The practiced was revealed by Joseph Smith an taught by many early LDS leaders as required for exaltation. D&C 132 is still very much LDS canon and depending on how you view the vote accepting the first Manifesto (which became official declaration 1), it may not exactly be.

    Certainly current LDS practice suggests that although plural marriage is not currently practiced in mortality it's very much still LDS doctrine and supported by the Brethren. Civilly divorced LDS men can be sealed to another woman without the permission of the ex and not vice versa. LDS women can only be sealed to one man— and cancellation of a sealing must take place before another sealing happens. LDS Widowers can be sealed to another living wife. Widows cannot be sealed to another man but only married for time. There are a number of example where recent and current LDS general authorities have been sealed to multiple wives.

    Howard W. Hunter was sealed for time and all eternity to both Claire Jeffs, who died after a long battle with Alzheimer's disease and then [Inis] Hunter.

    Dallin H. Oaks:
    "When I was 66, my wife June died of cancer. Two years later–a year and a half ago–I married [in the LDS temple] Kristen McMain, the eternal companion who now stands at my side." (Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah, 29 January 2002)

    Apostle Russell M. Nelson's was sealed in 2006 to a BYU professor Wendy Watson following the death of his first wife died in February of 2005. According to LDS beliefs Nelson has two wives sealed to him for eternity.

    Harold B. Lee, president of the Church, remarried after his wife’s death and was sealed to another woman. He, in fact, wrote a poem in which he reflected that his second wife, Joan, would join his first wife, Fern, as his eternal wives:
    "My lovely Joan was sent to me: So Joan joins Fern That three might be, more fitted for eternity. "O Heavenly Father, my thanks to thee."
    (Deseret News 1974 Church Almanac, p. 17)

    Granted the FLDS and other sects practice plural marriage more like Joseph Smith did…with all living wives but make no mistake LDS inc. in SLC still holds plural marriage as a sacred if not somewhat secret doctrine.

    July 26, 2011 at 6:48 pm |
  5. RobertE

    How dare they even mention Jesus anywhere in their religion. Morman's do not preach or study the Bible, all their teachings are from the Book of Morman. The Bible says in Revelation 22:18-19 “I am bearing witness to everyone that hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; 19 and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things which are written about in this scroll.
    Mormans have added the iterpretation of the Book of Morman from some guy with special glasses, so they will have the plagues of the Bible upon them.

    July 26, 2011 at 6:44 pm |
    • atheist666

      Who told you that, your preacher? I bet you are a Christian too, who likes to bash on mormon. By the way it's mormon, nor 'morman'
      I am an atheist, but I have read you Bible sir, and that passage you describe is talking about the book of revelation alone, which was also written before most of the gospel. So if your claim is true, the books written after the book of revelation are all false. I think they are all false, but I think you are quite naive and hypocritical to be talking crap on mormons.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:51 pm |
    • Bryan W

      Err, RobertE, you need to check your facts. The mormons definately believe in the bible. I am a Mormon, and I know that the bible is the Word of God, along with the Book of Mormon. Both books work together to testify of the divinity of Jesus Christ and His Father.
      Thanks.
      -Bryan

      July 26, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
    • Bayousara

      It is actually spelled "Mormon," not "Morman," and that right there tells me you aren't very much educated about LDS/Mormonism.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:55 pm |
    • Bryan W

      Robert, please also remember that the FLDS church is a group that broke off of the mainstream LDS church, as was stated in the article. I am a proud member of the LDS church, and do not agree with all of the principles or doctrines of the FLDS church.
      Thanks,
      -Bryan

      July 26, 2011 at 6:56 pm |
    • LDSRevelations

      Wrong. MormOns (not mans) do preach and study the Bible and not the BoM only. I'm a disaffected Mormon and don't agree with LDS theology but for the record you are either misinformed or being disingenuous. Mormons do in fact use the Bible. True that LDS scriptures are considered more accurate and reliable but the Bible is used part of the LDS canon.

      Also Revelations was written before the Gospel of John or Johns Epistles. Don't know if you're aware but the he books of the Bible were eventually arranged in a different order than they were written— so by your logic John who wrote Revelations would be plagued for later writing his gospel and epistles. Seriously this sort fundamentalist literalist view of the Bible is just silly.

      Besides, there are so many other historical and doctrinal issues with Mormonism...why focus on one that is a non-starter to begin with.

      July 26, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
  6. SAToday

    I thought the Mormons only gave up polygamy so Utah could be a state. Congress wouldn't radify Utah as a state with polygamy allowed.

    July 26, 2011 at 6:42 pm |
    • carlmarx1976

      I have read about it on their website. They gave it up because they got a revelation that it should stop. Now, I don't believe there is such a thing in heaven speaking to man. However, I don't see why other christian churches would freak out when they hear that mormons claim to have prophets that talk to God.
      Don't all Christian churches believe in the Bible? Doesn't the bible talk about prohets? Then what the hell is the big deal if mormons have prophets?
      Anyway, I got of topic. I was angry reading what other so-called 'christians' had written before.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:47 pm |
    • Sam

      Modern day polygamists are not associated with "Mormons'. At one time the Mormon religion did practice polygamy but they abolished that 100 years ago. Those still practicing today are NOT of the Mormon faith. You are correct in saying that Mormons no longer practice or believe in polygamy.

      July 26, 2011 at 7:03 pm |
    • LDSRevelations

      You're essentially right. The so called 1890, Manfiesto was more show for the US Govt that the LDS Church was giving up the practice than it really was a revelation. In language alone it is clearly for a Gentile (non-LDS) audience. In fact LDS membership and leaders including general authorities continued to take plural wives secretly after 1890. Some historians believe LDS prophet Wilford Woodruff took another plural wife after 1890 himself. But it worked enough that Utah was granted statehood in 1896. Plural marriage however continued.

      When Reed Smoot was elect to the US Senate in 1903 Congress refused to seat him noting the continuation on polygamy despite claims it had ended. After hearings the LDS Church published the 2nd manifesto that threatened excommunication for plural marriages driving the practice underground until it became 1) died out among mainstream LDS by the 1920s and 2) became the differentiating factor for the FLDS as wall as other splinter groups.

      Not quite as tidy as the Church would have you believe today. For a good read on the topic read: Solemn Covenant by B. Carmon Hardy.

      July 26, 2011 at 7:09 pm |
  7. highonbabyjesus

    last time I was in pre-trial confinment I was only allowed one call a week

    July 26, 2011 at 6:42 pm |
  8. Carl

    Child molesters is all they are in this cult. Life sentence and throw away the key!

    July 26, 2011 at 6:41 pm |
  9. BibleMessage

    Mormons are ignorant. They judge everybody for their sin while they roll around doing illegal crap like this.

    July 26, 2011 at 6:34 pm |
    • atheist666

      Here we go... probably a born-again christian, doing 'God's work' spreading falsehood about a different church that believes almost the same things. Mormons are no different that most Christians, except for their history perhaps.
      I am not even a christian and this garbage upsets me.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:37 pm |
    • Bryan W

      Try studying up and finding some logical facts to support your claim, before calling another group "ignorant."

      July 26, 2011 at 6:55 pm |
  10. double standrd

    If gays can be married why is polygamy wrong?,

    July 26, 2011 at 6:27 pm |
    • LowlyGentile

      Polygamy is all about power and control – as in treating women like owned chattel.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:28 pm |
    • Kptreal

      They are different things definitely, but I think the same basic instinct that tells me polygamy is wrong, tells me that gay-marriage is wrong too. I don't mean that in a discriminatory manner, but it's just a basic instinct. You would not want to be called a bigot because you hate on people that have multiple wives.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:34 pm |
    • case for

      Look at the article above, these women are ok to have sister wives. If they consent then it should be ok.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:44 pm |
    • Linda

      Sorry, they consent because they are brought up in a cycle of abuse– just like Stockholm syndrome, and how abusers begin to identify with their abusers. The other commenteor hit the nail on the head– one is a situation where woman are chattel, and the other is about adults who love each other and consent (gay marriage). Don't even compare the two....

      July 26, 2011 at 6:52 pm |
    • GodPot

      As long as there is no financial way to game the system with "dependants" then there is no reason to ban polygamy or gay marriage. However, the Jeff's issue has nothing to do with consenting adults, it has everything to do with a religious group that believes in protecting itself from scrutiny and outsiders by grooming children from very early ages when they have no power to say no since it's their parent or guardian who is forcing them into supposed "legal" marriages as early as age 14 and there are accounts of girls even younger being "promised" to older men. That is the issue here.

      July 26, 2011 at 7:01 pm |
    • LDSRevelations

      As long as it between consenting adults— and not 14 year old girls and 60 year old men— then I say whatever. I'm not going to tell other adults how to marry.

      July 26, 2011 at 7:11 pm |
    • Marriage

      That is the problem with opening up the definition of the word Marriage. Marriage is one man one woman.Period.
      Once you start including ,(commas) the list will be endless, gays, polygamist and who knows what lifestyle next???

      July 26, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
    • Frogist

      @Linda: Sorry, but you do not get to deny people marriage based on the questionable motivations of the participants. As long as these women are of age and consent willingly, there is no reason for anyone to prevent them from enjoying relationships as they please. If you and LowlyGentile believe that the closed society of the FLDS is repressive then maybe that should be the place to aim your objections. But to blanket decide for adults who is and isn't allowed to be married due to alleged psychological factors that do not affect their ability to consent is contrary, not only to the freedoms we enjoy in this country, but also to the independence of the same women you claim to be concerned for.

      July 27, 2011 at 10:47 am |
  11. EdNv

    ?Does Texas execute child molesters?? Me hopes!

    July 26, 2011 at 6:22 pm |
  12. waylaid88

    There is a storm coming and I am afraid...of Mormons.

    July 26, 2011 at 6:18 pm |
    • LowlyGentile

      and their magic underwear

      July 26, 2011 at 6:22 pm |
    • atheist666

      what the hell could you possibly be afraid of?

      July 26, 2011 at 6:22 pm |
    • EdNv

      LOL

      July 26, 2011 at 6:22 pm |
    • evangelistop

      Probably a Jehova's witness or born-again christian afraid of losing members of their congregation to minority groups like the mormons haha. Maybe you should learn to go to the streets like them and actually help people, instead of bugging the hell out of people quoting the bible like a damn robot

      July 26, 2011 at 6:27 pm |
  13. Walnutties

    All dogmas feed on the weak and misguided

    July 26, 2011 at 6:18 pm |
    • atheist666

      God doesn't exist. But I disagree completely with your statement. Some Churches actually do a lot of good, although they may be misguided themselves like the Mormons, I know of no other religious group that helps more in the community and is open to other people's beliefs. I know because they helped me here during Katrina.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:25 pm |
  14. B.Slider

    This creep needs to have ABDULLAH THE BUTCHER for his cellmate in an undersized, poorly ventilated holding cell. ABDULLAH should be fed 3 or 4 two day old tacos, that have not been kept on ice. Lets see if mr. jefferies can manage to talk on the phone then.

    July 26, 2011 at 6:17 pm |
  15. Newo

    gross.

    July 26, 2011 at 6:16 pm |
  16. CarlMarx1976

    The flds.com doesn't work. No wonder their cult sucks so bad haha. At least mormon.org has a pretty cool website

    July 26, 2011 at 6:15 pm |
    • B.Slider

      Maybe it's because their web master has taken over mr. jefferies baby sitting duties while he is in jail!!!!

      July 26, 2011 at 6:18 pm |
  17. TLP

    I just finished reading a book, "The 19th Wife" by David Ebershoff, which is a novel with a lot of interesting, factual, history on polygamy. One of the main points in the book is that irregardless of "mutual consent" between the adults, (although one could question how "mutual" the consent from a brainwashed 18 yr. old could be) polygamous marriages have very real consequences for the children born into them. The dynamics of rival wives and virtually abandoned and emotionally neglected children is something that I never thought about before reading this book. If you're interested in the subject, this book will make you stop and think.

    July 26, 2011 at 6:14 pm |
    • Kptreal

      I think you are right about the issues of having multiple wives. I also think that some of the same arguments used against bigamy could be used against gay-marriage. Like how a child born in a gay family could ever choose to be straight? Difficult, like choosing leaving polygamy when you grew up in it.

      I think it's funny how easy it is for us to condemn the practice of multiple wives, and at the same time ignore the issues that make gay-marriage problematic.

      Those who defend gay-marriage, if they call themselves 'open-minded' should be more open minded to alternative lifestyles such as 'plural marriage'.

      I am against both by the way.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:20 pm |
    • LowlyGentile

      Polygamy is all about treating women as chattel – just as in the Bible and the Koran.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:24 pm |
    • EdNv

      it is the pairing up of the girls at age 14-17 that is at issue.. I am open minded but don't touch my 16 y/o.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:25 pm |
    • Bayousara

      I have read all of the published books about the FLDS and their treatment of women, children, and even the male heads of households, and it is all getting worse. Read the ones particularly written by the women who have left the FLDS and learn their stories. It is imprisonment, pure and simple. Warren Jeffs is nuts, a crazed man who still has immense power while incarcerated. Don't you wonder about our legal system?????

      July 26, 2011 at 6:33 pm |
    • LDSRevelations

      Ann Eliza Young once one of Brigham Young's 55 wives (eventually his ex-wife) alleged that early Mormon apostle and 1st presidency member Heber C. Kimball once declared, "I think no more of taking [another] wife than I do of buying a cow."

      July 26, 2011 at 7:15 pm |
    • Frogist

      @TLP: Thanks for the suggestion!
      Regarding your comment about a brainwashed 18 yr old and consent, I think it is a bit of an overreach to argue for something being illegal based on another's person's pre-judgement of another's mental state. I'm sure there are cases where one can be considered mentally incompetent to understand the ramifications of entering into a contract. But I'm not sure that can be argued for, say the 18 yr old at the end of the article. Yes, she clearly has some issues wanting to be married to an accused pedophile. But I don't see how that disqualifies her from understanding what marriage is.

      @Kptreal: I'm not sure you understand a lot about being gay or gay marriage. You seem to be coming from the perspective that being gay is a conditioned choice. It is not. And furthermore, if kids were unable to stray from the image of marriage their parents provided, then there probably would be no gay kids, that is if we follow your logic.
      And yes, I am open to marriage between multiple partners. Polyamorous relationships exist where multiple partners stay faithful to only those within their consented group. And they have many of the same issues that gays have with marriage, in that the children they have are not considered legitimate, their status as spouse is not considered valid making their legal rights void despite being in as faithful a marriage as the typical male/female couple. Personally, that type of relationship structure is not for me, but it seems to work for others without the brain-washing, guilt or abuse that occurs in Warren Jeffs type of situation.

      July 27, 2011 at 11:32 am |
  18. Maxi

    For those interested in facts and not speculation from religious fanatics from other denominations talking crap about religious minorities:

    For the lds http://www.mormon.org / http://www.lds.org

    For flds http://www.flds.com

    July 26, 2011 at 6:11 pm |
  19. Daniel S

    The LDS Church is avidly against polygamy. It's not that "God changed his mind," it's that it became unnecessary, and detrimental to the survival of the Church. Read more! Understanding is how we avoid prejudice.

    http://lds.org/study/topics/polygamy-plural-marriage?lang=eng&query=polygamy

    July 26, 2011 at 6:08 pm |
    • Erm

      LDS may be against it now, but it is alive in well amongst the FLDS.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:18 pm |
    • LowlyGentile

      Sure (wink wink)

      July 26, 2011 at 6:21 pm |
    • LowlyGentile

      I've heard rumors of secret inner-temple ceremonies for powerful Bishops like Mitt Romney – replete with secret surrogate brides so they will attain the required number of 3 wives to attain the highest celestial level.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:27 pm |
    • Boris

      @LowlyGentile I have some oceanfront property in Arizona for sale. Interested?

      July 26, 2011 at 6:30 pm |
    • Bayousara

      There are plenty of "mainstream" LDS who are still practicing polygamy. Thousands of them who live "like the rest of us" during the day and on jobs but go home to plural marriages. Don't tell me they have given it up!

      July 26, 2011 at 6:35 pm |
    • atheist666

      @Bayousara I will tell you they have. Do you have any mormon neighbors? Have you ever been inside their churches or temples? Well I happen to have a so called mormon bishop as my next door neighbor. He has one wife and a very nice family. Educate yourself, get the facts and then come over here and share your thoughts, don't speculate.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:43 pm |
    • Bayousara

      To Athiest666, I am a genealogist, have been for decades, and most of my friends around the country are Mormons although I am not. I am well read and well educated about Mormonism. I went to Salt Lake City specifically to study the LDS/Mormon religion, so I don't need to be told to "get educated."

      July 26, 2011 at 6:59 pm |
  20. Skyy

    Until you know what "real" Mormons stand for and practice, it would be best that you keep your opinions to yourself to avoid showing off your pronounced stupidity. FLDS are NOT Mormons and Mormons are not practicing polygamy. To intertwine the two shows off your ignorance. Get the facts straight or keep your opinions within your know nothing circle.

    July 26, 2011 at 6:01 pm |
    • JohnCRoberts

      yes, so right. After all they are not called LatterDay Saints or anything. They weren't ALL members of the mormon church. They didn't follow their leaders, then revolt when they learned that Mormons (Latter Day Saints) REGULARLY have changed their dogma and scriptures.

      Oh Wait... YES THEY DID! While currently unaffiliated, the Mormons made them... Get Honest!

      July 26, 2011 at 6:15 pm |
    • Normon

      I agree they are not the same, but to deny their historical connections is denial, I think.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:16 pm |
    • Boris

      Comparing FLDS and LDS is the same as comparing Catholics and Lutherans. Both came from the same root, but have *very* different interpretations of scripture and belief. FLDS may have sprung the LDS church over a hundred years ago, but the beliefs are as different any protestant church is from Catholicism.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:24 pm |
    • Mormons-R-Cult

      Sorry all Mormons started off the same way and only change your tune when pressure is applied. There is no bigger hypocrite than a Mormon.

      You also have to be dumber than a box of rocks to belong to such an obviously false and pathetic religion.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:34 pm |
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