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August 1st, 2011
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Explain it to me: RamadanNo food? No drinking? No sex? It's the Muslim month of Ramadan. CNN Religion Editor Dan Gilgoff explains.
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Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a mythical angel. This is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.
Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a mythical angel. This "contact" is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.
below .. list of donors. CNN doesn't like. Notice Islam is bigger on the blasting side of things than on the relief side of things .. and notice how Christians and Jews give a lot
"A D R A ..I n t e r n a t i o n a l ..h a d ..r e c e i v e d ..$ 2 4 7 , 8 6 8 ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y . "
"T h e ..A m e r i c a n ..J e w i s h ..J o i n t ..D i s t r i b u t i o n ..C o m m i t t e e ..h a d ..r a i s e d ..$ 7 2 5 , 0 0 0 ..a s ..o f ..T h u r s d a y . " JEWISH
"T h e ..A m e r i c a n ..R e d ..C r o s s ..h a d ..r a i s e d ..a p p r o x i m a t e l y ..$ 7 6 – m i l l i o n ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y ..a f t e r n o o n . ..T e x t – m e s s a g e ..c o n t r i b u t i o n s ..a c c o u n t e d ..f o r ..m o r e ..t h a n ..$ 3 . 2 – m i l l i o n ..o f .." Coss = CHRISTIAN
"A m e r i C a r e s ..h a d ..r e c e i v e d ..$ 2 . 3 – m i l l i o n ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y . "
"C A R E ..U S A ..h a s ..r e c e i v e d ..$ 3 0 2 , 0 0 0 ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y "
"B r o t h e r ’ s ..B r o t h e r ..F o u n d a t i o n ..h a s ..r e c e i v e d ..m o r e ..t h a n ..$ 8 4 , 0 0 0 ..a s ..o f ..T h u r s d a y . "
"I n t e r n a t i o n a l ..M e d i c a l ..C o r p s ..h a d ..r a i s e d ..$ 1 . 5 – m i l l i o n ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y . ..T e x t – m e s s a g e ..g i f t s ..a c c o u n t ..f o r ..$ 2 2 , 0 7 0 ..o f ..t h a t ..t o t a l . "
"C a t h o l i c ..R e l i e f ..S e r v i c e s ..h a d ..r a i s e d ..$ 1 . 2 – m i l l i o n ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y . " CHRISTIAN (and you don't like priests?)
"D i r e c t ..R e l i e f ..I n t e r n a t i o n a l ..h a d ..r a i s e d ..m o r e ..t h a n ..$ 1 . 1 – m i l l i o n ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y . "
"G i v e 2 A s i a ..h a s ..r e c e i v e d ..$ 2 – m i l l i o n ..f o r ..r e l i e f ..e f f o r t s ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y . "
"G l o b a l G i v i n g ..h a s ..r e c e i v e d ..$ 7 2 5 , 0 0 0 . ..T h e ..m o n e y ..w i l l ..b e ..d i s t r i b u t e d ..t o ..s i x ..o t h e r ..n o n p r o f i t s . "
"H a b i t a t ..f o r ..H u m a n i t y ..I n t e r n a t i o n a l ..h a d ..r e c e i v e d ..m o r e ..t h a n ..$ 1 7 2 , 0 0 0 ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y . " CHRISTIAN
"I n t e r n a t i o n a l ..M e d i c a l ..C o r p s ..h a d ..r a i s e d ..$ 1 . 5 – m i l l i o n ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y . ..T e x t – m e s s a g e ..g i f t s ..a c c o u n t ..f o r ..$ 2 2 , 0 7 0 ..o f ..t h a t ..t o t a l . "
"I n t e r n a t i o n a l ..R e s c u e ..C o m m i t t e e ..h a d ..r e c e i v e d ..r o u g h l y ..$ 4 5 0 , 0 0 0 ..a s ..o f ..T h u r s d a y . "
"I s l a m i c ..R e l i e f ..h a d ..r a i s e d ..m o r e ..t h a n ..$ 1 3 4 , 0 0 0 ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y . " $135,00 from the Oil Barons ..
"T h e ..J e w i s h ..F e d e r a t i o n ..o f ..M e t r o p o l i t a n ..C h i c a g o ..h a d ..r a i s e d ..$ 8 8 , 9 3 1 ..a s ..o f ..T h u r s d a y . " JEWISH
"M e d i c a l ..T e a m s ..I n t e r n a t i o n a l ..h a s ..r e c e i v e d ..$ 5 6 , 2 0 0 ..a s ..o f ..W e d n e s d a y . "
"T h e ..M e n n o n i t e ..C e n t r a l ..C o m m i t t e e ..h a d ..r e c e i v e d ..$ 4 5 , 0 0 0 ..f r o m ..A m e r i c a n ..d o n o r s ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y . ..C a n a d i a n ..d o n o r s ..c o n t r i b u t e d ..a n ..a d d i t i o n a l ..$ 1 4 , 0 0 0 . " CHRISTIAN
"R e l i e f ..I n t e r n a t i o n a l ..h a d ..r e c e i v e d ..$ 2 0 , 5 0 0 ..a s ..o f ..T h u r s d a y . "
"P r o j e c t ..H O P E ..h a d ..r a i s e d ..$ 6 5 0 , 0 0 0 ..a s ..o f ..T h u r s d a y . " CHRISTIAN
"T h e ..S a l v a t i o n ..A r m y ..h a d ..r e c e i v e d ..m o r e ..t h a n ..$ 2 . 8 – m i l l i o n ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y . ..O f ..t h a t ..t o t a l , ..m o r e ..t h a n ..$ 1 3 2 , 0 0 0 ..c a m e ..i n ..v i a ..t e x t ..m e s s a g e , ..$ 2 . 5 – m i l l i o n ..o n l i n e , ..a n d ..$ 8 2 , 0 0 0 ..b y ..t e l e p h o n e . " CHRISTIAN
"S a v e ..t h e ..C h i l d r e n ..h a d ..r a i s e d ..$ 6 . 9 – m i l l i o n ..i n ..t h e ..U n i t e d ..S t a t e s ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y . ..O f ..t h a t ..t o t a l , ..$ 4 7 , 0 0 0 ..h a s ..c o m e ..i n ..v i a ..t e x t ..m e s s a g e . " CHRISTIAN
"T h e ..U n i t e d ..M e t h o d i s t ..C o m m i t t e e ..o n ..R e l i e f ..h a s ..r e c e i v e d ..m o r e ..t h a n ..$ 5 0 0 , 0 0 0 ..o n l i n e ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y . ..T h e ..o r g a n i z a t i o n ..a n t i c i p a t e s ..t h a t ..M e t h o d i s t ..c h u r c h e s ..a c r o s s ..t h e ..c o u n t r y .." CHRISTIAN
"w i l l ..h o l d ..a ..s p e c i a l ..o f f e r i n g ..t h i s ..S u n d a y ..f o r ..r e l i e f ..e f f o r t s . " CHRISTIAN
"U . S . ..F u n d ..f o r ..U N I C E F ..h a d ..r a i s e d ..$ 1 . 2 – m i l l i o n ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y . " AMERICANS
"U n i t e d ..W a y ..W o r l d w i d e ..h a d ..r a i s e d ..m o r e ..t h a n ..$ 1 – m i l l i o n ..a s ..o f ..F r i d a y . " AMERICANS
Unreadable in form, not-worth-reading in content.
@RightTurnClyde: It would be helpful if you provide a link for verification of these stats. Also you do realize that "American" includes muslims. And the Red Cross is not a Christian organization.
Also what does this have to do with Ramadan?
We fast all our senses we have to try not to hear cursing or obscene language as well as see it. We fast to understand how the poor feel, those who are in actual need, who can't afford. But it also teaches us lots of patience and responsibility. Also it's healthy because fasting help cleanse your body. Ramadan kareem
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Visual BASIC .. but even so they do not like my Christian views
From sun rise to sunset..sunrise to sunset!
RAMADAN KAREEM TO ALL
@Mohammed Goni: I read that the correct response is "Allahu akram" but being a non-believer I will say instead Ramadan Mubarak!
Thank you CNN for posting this! I don't understand why some people are "hating" for nothing. Hate is not created by the religion. It is created by people who mess up the name
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"W a s h i n g t o n ..P o s t .. ..S Y R I A : ..1 0 : 4 5 ..p . m . ..( E E S T ) ../ ..3 : 4 5 ..p . m . ..( E T ) , ..7 5 ..d e a d .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. ..A t ..l e a s t ..7 5 ..p e o p l e ..h a v e ..b e e n ..k i l l e d ..i n ..p r o t e s t s ..F r i d a y , ..A m n e s t y ..I n t e r n a t i o n a l ..r e p o r t e d . .. ..T h e ..d e a d ..i n c l u d e d ..t w o ..b o y s ..a g e s ..s e v e n ..a n d ..1 0 , ..a n d ..a ..f o u r – y e a r – o l d ..g i r l , ..a c c o r d i n g ..t o ..a c "
"“ T h e ..S y r i a n ..a u t h o r i t i e s ..h a v e ..a g a i n ..r e s p o n d e d ..t o ..p e a c e f u l ..c a l l s ..f o r ..c h a n g e ..w i t h ..b u l l e t s ..a n d ..b a t o n s . ..T h e y ..m u s t ..i m m e d i a t e l y ..h a l t ..t h e i r ..a t t a c k s ..o n ..p e a c e f u l ..p r o t e s t e r s ..a n d ..i n s t e a d ..a l l o w ..S y r i a n s ..t o ..g a t h e r ..f r e e l y ..a s ..i n t e r n a t i o n a l ..l a w ..d e m a n d s , ” ..s a i d ..M a l c o l m ..S m a r "
"L i f e ..i n ..I s r a e l .. ..: O l e h G i r l . c o m : .. ..2 2 ..p r o t e s t e r s ..i n ..S y r i a ..s h o t ..t o ..d e a t h , ..7 5 ..i n j u r e d "
"H e r a l d ..S u n : .. ..7 ..S h i i t e ..p i l g r i m s ..s h o t ..d e a d ..i n ..P a k i s t a n .. ..# ..A A P .. ..# ..J u l y ..3 0 , ..2 0 1 1 ..1 2 : 4 3 A M .."
"Y a h o o ..N e w s .. ..B y ..M a m o o n ..D u r r a n i ..| ..A F P ..– ..S u n , ..J u l ..3 1 , ..2 0 1 1 "
[and that is ALL this week only..} do you want last week? Last month? last year? last 40 years?
HATE:
a) intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury
b) extreme dislike or antipathy; loathing
Atheists do not hate, we have no reason to. We are concerned and puzzled at how intelligent people can still believe in supernatural beings in this day and age.
We are concerned because, Christians, Muslims, Jewish, whatever, are willing to go to war, kill and die over a ridiculous premise that is solely based on faith.
Religion had its day. When man didn't know how to explain their environment they used religion to fill this void. It did the job back in the day and it had the added benefit of controlling people in a small geographic area. As the world becomes smaller and more connected, religion will only bring more misery to this world. As more religions butt heads.
It is Christians, Jews and Muslims who hate. They hate one another even when they are told to do the opposite. What I find ironic is that they are all supposed to be worshiping the same God.
We aren't the problem, YOU, the religious, are the problem. However, it isn't your views or believes that are necessarily ruining this world, no, it is your claim that your views are true and that others are not. That is where the problem lies and why as long as we have religion in this world, we will always be at each other's throats.
atheists do not hate? i tell my wife i am never wrong.....ever!!!!!!!!
@Victor- if you are human...you have the ability to hate. It has nothing to do with being religious or non-religious.
I am learning the ways of hate from the children of Abraham.
Soon I shall pay them all back.
sure demuth..sure
Atheists express vile contempt for Christians (and Christians alone) .. they say very hateful tings and do not care even if they make a point doing it... they simply loath and express it .. so now you would like to spin that to be something else?? Atheists call us derrogatory modifies, say extremely nasty things about Jesus and our Bible, despise our faith, despise the practice of our faith and express all of that on these comment boars. Very hateful and without reservation. Much worse than the pre-1964 south .. much worse.
RightTurnClyde
We hate ALL religions
Thats why I donate to ANY group that wants to kill members of the other groups.
Create hatred and chaos and the zealots will slaughter each other.
Kind of like a God View video game, you just click on one zealot, and tell him to go attack a different one.
It works REALLY well.
So demuth...you also disagree with Victor...atheists do hate.
Lycidas
It dosen't come easily, but I do my best!
RightTurnClyde
Atheists express vile contempt for Christians (and Christians alone) .. they say very hateful tings and do not care even if they make a point doing it... they simply loath and express it .. so now you would like to spin that to be something else?? Atheists call us derrogatory modifies, say extremely nasty things about Jesus and our Bible, despise our faith, despise the practice of our faith and express all of that on these comment boars. Very hateful and without reservation. Much worse than the pre-1964 south .. much worse.
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Yep you see christians riding in the back of busses, their own water fountains and some hanging from crosses and christians can't vote. Some of us do not wish to eat the flesh of your zombie jesus nor drink the tainted blood. One difference is you are losing power but not rights. Welcome to freedom zomnbie christ believer. How about you go jump off a bridge and have faith that zombie jesus will grab you? Or keep it old school....go to the zoo and jump in with the lions
Victor, you proudly call yourself an atheist. But, I bet if your butt was out in a boat in the middle of the ocean in a raging rainstorm, with no sign of rescue in sight, you'd be calling out to "God" to save you or help you. C'mon. There is no such thing as an atheist! So, you are preaching to the choir.
@robin: That's as fals as it gets. We have many non-believers on this blog who have faced difficult. life-threatening situations and never reached out to some supernatural being. In fact there are non-believers who reached out to gods in very safe situations and finding that god never seemed to answer, became non-believers because of that. Please stop spreading lies about atheists and non-believers. It makes people of faith look weak and petty.
@Victor: Re: hate. I'm with Lycidas on that.
Ramadan is a time where we must control our desires (nafs) aswell as our tongues:
Rasulallah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: “Fasting is not (abstaining) from eating and drinking only, but also from vain speech and foul language. If one of you is being cursed or annoyed, he should say: ‘I am fasting, I am fasting.” (Ibn Khuzaimah, Ibn Hibban)
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i m muslim and you are christian so what is your probleme i lovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvve ramadan
I would like to say thank you to CNN for bringing this up, and having respect for our religion.
I love the Holy Month of Ramadan. I feel so relaxed, and pure when I worship Allah, the Almighty.
You describe it like a bowel movement
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I had no idea that Islam had such a fun holiday. Well good for them!
I'm shocked and disappointed by the comments posted here... and the level of ignorance they represent. I'm not CNN's #1 fan by any stretch, but I applaud you for contributing to educating people about Islam and Ramadan with no agenda and no skewed agenda. Nice piece.
All this ignorance is a clear cry out for Guidance. I feel sorry for all of you who feel the strong need to bash Faith. However One Day it'll be made clear to the disbelieves and then it will be too late to crawl back to the Truth. Alhamdulilah for Islam
i will replay in your quistion that why we do get fasting in ramazan month ,thats what The God says for all the muslim ,to get fast in this month as well as it is better for out self ,you may can ask this form a Doctor then see what he or she replay.....also it is mention in the book of Bible Gospel of John 14:12-14 jesus says(i have many thing to tell you but you cant to hear them now after me a sprit of truth shall come he shall giud you all in to the he shall glorify me ) so after Jesus PBU the sprit of truth is prophet Mohammad PBU and he told us as well,
What is wrong with the majority of the ppl on here? The topic is Ramadan.
Not much to it really for the non-muslim to be aware. That is unless you work in the restaurant business...then you should be extra aware of the dietary restrictions that Muslim customers may have.
Make no mistake, g a y Jesus will return. Go to our website to learn more http://www.gaychristian101.com...
@Avd- you are an idiot
Wow how rude of you. We are just trying to open closed minds witht he love of Jesus.
@Avd- the topic is Ramadan...not copy/pasting crap websites
Topic?
You guys are like pathetic Star Trek fans debating the Romulans and Klingons.
Both sides are based on lies.
A pox on ALL the followers of the degenerate lunatic Abraham. His illness has infected to many minds.
Are you rude because you don't like me being a Gay christian?
@demuth- I guess that makes you the star wars fan who no one even cares about 😉
@Avd- I don't hate you at all...but plz...keep guessing. But when you go about copy/pasting websites that have nothing at all to do with the topic...are you really surprised that you might not be welcomed with open arms here?
AvdBerg I hav eno issue with you being gay. I get tired of the endless cut and past to your gat website.
Lycidas
Nah, I was more the Mission Impossible or Man from UNCLE type.
AvdBerg, we get it...you are gay and proud from your last 200 webpage posts.
@demuth– I think you need to Get Smart
AVD,
If you open your mind too much, your brain will fall out.
I have to say I agree with Lycidas somewhat. It would really be nice for people to stay on topic. I know it's not always possible but we could have some productive discussions if we did that. I disagree that if you are not muslim, you wouldn't want to know this stuff though. I am not muslim and I love learning about other cultures and religions. It's always helpful to recognize the diversity of the world around us. And maybe we will understand our muslim neighbours better or make some muslim friends. It's all good.