Muslim Americans are most optimistic religious group, study says
Owla Awada manages a popular bakery in Dearborn, Michigan, one of the largest U.S. Muslim communities.
August 2nd, 2011
10:00 AM ET

Muslim Americans are most optimistic religious group, study says

By Alan Duke, CNN

(CNN) - Muslim Americans are more optimistic about their future than members of any other religious group in the United States, according to a Gallup report released Tuesday.

"They have generally optimistic and positive views about government, its agencies and the future of America, but they report a significant level of prejudice and discrimination," said Ahmed Younis, an analyst for the Abu Dhabi Gallup Center.

Nearly half of the Muslim Americans surveyed by Gallup said they have experienced racial or religious discrimination in the United States, according to the report, which was compiled by the Abu Dhabi Gallup Center from two years of polling.

"The American Muslim story is the American story in many ways," said Younis.

The report assessed the group's perceptions and attitudes and those of other religious groups toward Muslim Americans a decade after the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States.

Polling of Americans of other religions supported the Muslim American perceptions of prejudice, Younis said.

"The opinion of Americans is still divided and the perception of loyalty of Muslim Americans is still questioned by a considerable portion of Americans," he said.

They express loyalty to the United States, but face distrust from a significant minority of other citizens, the report said.

The polling found that 69% identified strongly with the United States while 65% said the same about their faith.

"Muslim Americans are thoroughly American in their allegiance and identity and don't see a conflict between that and being thoroughly Muslim," Younis said.

Ninety-three percent of U.S. Muslims said they believe other Muslim Americans are loyal to the country, while significant minorities in other religious groups doubted that loyalty, the report said.

Thirty-seven percent of American Protestants and 35% of Catholics said they didn't agree that Muslims living in the United States were loyal to the country.

Nearly all Muslim Americans, 92%, said they believed that Muslims living in United States had no sympathy for al Qaeda, the terror group responsible or the 9/11 attacks.

They are, as a group, critical of counter-terrorism measures imposed since the terror attacks and a large percentage distrust the FBI, the report said.

There is evidence of "a big friction" between Muslim Americans and federal law enforcement, Younis said.

Just 60% of Muslim Americans said they have confidence in the FBI, compared to 75% or more of Americans of other major faiths, the report said.

While 81% believe it is not possible to profile a terrorist based on demographic traits, just 49% of other Americans agree.

"There's a significant percentage of Americans that believe racial profiling is an efficient way of conducting law enforcement activities," Younis said.

Attitudes about racial profiling are also reflected in what Muslim Americans say about prejudice they face. Sixty percent of U.S. Muslims say other Americans pre-judge them based on their ethnicity.

"At 48%, Muslim Americans are by far the most likely of major faith groups surveyed to say they have personally experienced racial or religious discrimination in the past year," the report said. "The next most likely are Mormon Americans, although less than one-third of U.S. Mormons say this."

Just 63% of Muslim Americans said they feel respected when they practice their religion in public. Eighty-one percent of all Protestants and Catholics and 85% of Mormon Americans said they felt respected.

"There is still a little bit of hostility in the public square as it relates to Muslim Americans and their place in society," Younis said.

Muslim Americans generally feel better off and more hopeful in 2011 than they were in 2008, when a similar Gallup report was produced. While 60% said they were thriving, about the same level as most major religious groups, they are the most optimistic about their lives in five years.

Americans overall rate their future a 7 on a scale of 1 to 10, but Muslim Americans rate theirs at 8.4, the report said.

Jewish Americans ranked as second most optimistic at 8.0, following by nonreligious, atheists and agnostic respondants at 7.9.

Mormans' optimism was rated at 7.8 and Catholics at 7.7, while American Protestants were the least optimistic about the future with 7.4, the report said.

One explanation for their optimism is that Muslim Americans were hurt more than other major religious groups by the recession and have experienced more improvement in the recovery, the report said.

The election in 2008 of President Obama, a Christian with Muslim roots, may be one factor in their optimism, the report said. They give Obama's performance an 80% approval rating, the highest of any religious group. President Bush's approval rating among Muslim Americans was just 7% near the end of 2008.

With the exception of Jewish Americans, all other religious groups rate Obama below 50%, the report said.

Muslim Americans represent the most racially diverse religious community in the United States, the Gallup report said.

"For instance, Asian Muslims are easily the most likely in America to be thriving," it said. "Black Muslims report more financial hardship than do white Muslims, and black Muslims are somewhat less likely than other Muslims in the U.S. to be satisfied with their standard of living."

One "intriguing finding" of the analysis is the indication that "frequent mosque attendance might lessen stress and anger," the report said.

"It also takes away from the theory that mosque attendance stokes Muslims' anger and radicalizes them," it said. "Rather, Muslim Americans are no different from other major U.S. religious communities who appear to draw peace of mind from their faith."

The Abu Dhabi Gallup Center is a partnership between the opinion research firm Gallup and the Crown Prince Court of Abu Dhabi.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: 9/11 • Islam • Muslim • United States

soundoff (603 Responses)
  1. Peoplearehateful

    Wow! Some people can be so narrow-minded and hateful. I would bet that many of those spewing hateful words on these boards are people that "claim" to be Christians. I am a proud Catholic Christian and I am completely baffled by how there are so many Christians out there (and other non-Muslim groups as well) that preach tolerance and love and accepting our neighbor and then do the exact opposite. Just because someone wears a hijab or prays differently doesn't mean they aren't all from the same God. There is ONE God and he made everyone in this world and He does NOT make mistakes. How dare of of you on here attack someone that hasn't done anything to you. Ok, I understand that there are still tender feelings about 9/11 and that there are people that cannot separate fundamental extremism from someone who simply practices their religion, but come on people. Wise up! You cannot hate an entire religion based on the acts of a percentage. If that were the case, every group would be hated b/c there are people within every religion that do things that others don't agree with, but we don't attack them do we? If you want to hate terrorists acts go for it. But to hate people that happen to share a religion w/those that carried out those acts is ridiculous. Most of those terrorists had dark hair...should we hate all brunettes now b/c they have something in common? Should we hate all men now? All those people that have a tan or brown eyes? Makes me wonder what our founding fathers would think. Hypocrites!

    August 2, 2011 at 1:59 pm |
    • diaz

      U self-hating, backstabbing pos. Christianity is better off traitors like u. U will definitely burn in hell for this treason. Repent while u can!

      August 2, 2011 at 2:04 pm |
    • Toby

      That is precisely the kind of accomodationist argument that gives legitimacy to extremism. You only CLAIM they all worship the same god (as if there is any evidence whatsoever for the existence of a god, but that's another story). Subjugating and dominating others (read: misogyny) in the name of religion is NOT acceptable-but you claim it IS acceptable just because someone's religious ideas claim it is so? You need to do some serious reading and studying about the history of these religions, how they came about, and the violent crusades that precipitated their spread. You will then have an entirely different perspective on the need to "tolerate" the intolerant. Peace.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:08 pm |
    • absurdity

      diaz.......you are ridiculous. First, you may want to try a complete sentence "Christianity is better off traitors like u".....hmmm. 2nd, I am also a Catholic Christian and what "People" said is correct. We are supposed to love one another and accept people. We don't have to accept terrorist acts and we shouldn't. Not quite sure whom you worship, but I assume you are Christian and I am pretty sure that God would not think you calling someone a "pos" would be acceptable, especially since "People" is trying to show love and acceptance and not hatred like you. Feel how you want to feel, but you are the one that should invest in an air-conditioner for the after-life my friend.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:10 pm |
    • Laughing

      @ Diaz

      Please keep going! How do you really feel? Me and all my athesit friends really appreciate it, why even make arguments against religion when we have you to do it for us. GO TEAM!

      August 2, 2011 at 2:17 pm |
    • absurdity

      Toby.....I think what "People" meant is that you cannot blame an entire religion on the acts of some. Can you blame all Catholic priests for the acts of some? Can you say that people who "claim" to be pro-life are correct if they kill an abortion doctor in the name of protecting life? Its very simple. Treat others the way you want to be treated. If someone hurts you, defend yourself. Protect yourself but don't go looking to take it out on someone else. To lump all Muslims together as terrorists or extremists shows a lack of education. Maybe if we took the time to talk and learn about other religions/cultures, etc, we would be able to coexist. I just think if you blindly follow what the news tells you or what people who have never even met a Muslim person tell you, you are closing yourself off. Muslims are all around us. They could be your doctor or your teacher or your accountant. Should you panic and prepare to fight? Please, use some common sense.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:19 pm |
    • Jerry

      You need to study the Quran and the history of Is Lam. All ah is not the same god as the God and Father of Jesus Christ. It is just a fact. Is Lam does not recognize our creator God, and does not recognize Jesus as the Son of God. Is Lam is a religion of works. You have to work your way to heaven, trying to the bridge the gap between you and All ah. Christianity is not a religion. Christianity is God reaching for man. He (Jesus) bridges the gap through salvation and grace.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:20 pm |
    • diaz

      @Absurdity & Laughing

      Mock me as much as u can but rest assured that soon all u Godless sheep, satan worshiping moslems and self-hating pseudo Christians will rot in hell for eternity. And i will be in Holy Father`s shadow. There is only one true path and that is Holy Trinity. All other paths lead to hell.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
    • Laughing


      and the jews! Don't forget about them! I know they want to rot in hel.l too! Riddle me this one question if you would. If god is the only salvation to heaven and all I have to do is just say, "hey man, I believe in you, you definitly exist" does that mean we'll be in heaven together for eternity?! Then you and I can talk about how batsh/it crazy you are for the rest of time right?!

      August 2, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
    • Edwin

      Most people are basically xenophobic. If you read the comments before mine, you will see posts from many belief systems, and the majority seem to feel that those who are not like them deserve one of three fates:

      1) to die, now, at the hands of the faithful,
      2) to die, slowly, at the will of god, or
      3) to burn in eternal damnation.

      Personally, I think anyone who wishes death on those of a different belief is sick and twisted. I guess I would want them to go away, but I do not want them to die. Actually, I want them to realize how hateful they are. This applies to muslims, christians, atheists, trolls - anyone who wishes harm on those who are different from them.

      My advice, though I doubt it will be taken, is this: attend to your OWN first. Make sure they are of good will, generous, helpful to those less fortunate, giving of time and money, patient, loving, and worthy of being in your particular religion/belief set/philosophy. If you cannot walk the life of a truly good person yourself, how can you pretend to condemn others?

      August 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm |
    • diaz


      It is not that easy. U will have to prove ur sincerity with ur acts. Lord will send the traitors and hypocrites to the deepest portions of hell. And for ur information, u r not mocking me, in fact u r mocking the Holy Father. Ur end will be horrible if u will not repent and mend ur ways. Never side with satan worshiping moslems.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
    • DamianKnight

      I tend to agree with People. Can we stop with bringing up historical facts about why Christianity is evil? Yes, we all know about the Salem Witch Trials, the Crusades, the Inquisition, and all of these things committed by a vast minority of Christians throughout history. So, since we can't go back in time and stop things that happened in the 1200s, or even yesterday, what would appease the athiests? What would you like us to do about it? Most of these things occured before even our grandparents were alive.

      Can we just worship in peace, vote as we want to, and live our life without being blasted by athiests for believing in "the spaghetti monster" from "a book of fairy tales"? This is all second grade name-calling.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:58 pm |
    • Nymrod

      Diaz: you sound like a nut job. Hope the FBI is tracking you. Psycho

      August 2, 2011 at 4:20 pm |
    • pfeffernusse

      @Peoplearehateful, I often find that the people who most vehemently express that Christianity is the only true faith have a great deal of difficulty actually living by the basic tenets of their faith. They’ll happily condemn you to Hell but don’t ask them to inconvenience themselves by following Jesus’ teachings.

      @jerry, you are so stupid, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. Muslims honor and refer to Jews and Christians as “people of the book”. Guess which book that is? The Old Testament. That is one of Islam’s holy text. And Jesus is mentioned in the Quran more often than Mohammed.

      @diaz, you sure to seem to be getting off on the idea that other people are going to burn in Hell. That’s mighty Christian of you.

      @ DamianKnight, the reason the comparison is brought up so often is because hysterical, xenophobic Christians run around shrieking about how violent Islam is. They refuse to acknowledge the violence in their own faith or the fact that it is extremists who are the problem, not necessarily the average guy.

      August 4, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
  2. diaz

    Although there is conclusive evidence that moslems are also humans but the real problem lies with their inability to use their small brains while thinking about their religion. They are some stubborn pos, killing every one esp their own moslem kith and kins here and there. Just look at the moslem world and u will see 25% of humanity suffering under this barbaric and cruel doctrine. I mean what good is this satanic religion if it makes u a blood thirsty beast from human!!!!

    And all the libtard-aclu clowns, stay away from my pearls of wisdom!

    August 2, 2011 at 1:58 pm |
    • Laughing

      A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
      Winston Churchill

      August 2, 2011 at 2:02 pm |
    • Ish

      @Diaz: Bomber in Norway was a Christian who killed other Christians in the name of Christianity. I certainly wouldn't judge the Christian religion or other Christians by this act by one horrible person. I'm certain you wouldn't as well. Kindly do the same for Islam and Muslims.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:41 pm |
  3. Utah Mormon

    Mormons are Christians! Check it out! Attend our services and you will be enlightened!!

    August 2, 2011 at 1:54 pm |
    • Mark Yelka

      Yes... you will be enlightened. You mind will be lighter. Your bank account will be lighter.

      I was a Mormon for over 13 years. It is a very embracing religion, with well-intentioned members, that uses psychology very adeptly to convince their followers that only they are "right." On the first Sunday of every month, they hold Fast and Testimony meetings in which all members are encouraged to tell each other, "I believe _____." It is a classic mind conditioning technique. But, in the end, like all religions, it is based on nonsense. I was quite the zealot for many years, did Missionary service for 2 years. The mind trap is exquisite. Fortunately, I escaped. So, yes, they are Christians. But, like other religious extremists, they are a deluded bunch and little will dissuade them. They will march at their Prophet's orders. Be worried of them and all religious extremists.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:04 pm |
    • Jerry

      sorry not true. Mor mons do not belive Jesus is the Son of God and the only way to heaven.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
    • pfeffernusse

      Hmm. Must be why they refer to themselves as The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints.

      August 4, 2011 at 5:34 pm |
  4. Laughing

    People don't come to church for preachments, of course, but to daydream about God.
    Kurt Vonnegut

    August 2, 2011 at 1:54 pm |
  5. Mark Yelka

    I find any strong adherence to religion to indicate problematic personalities. I prefer to stay away from people who believe in magical beings and other nonsense.

    August 2, 2011 at 1:51 pm |
    • JoeProfet

      Mark, since you took the time to state your take on religion, I will take the time to help you understand at least one, Christianity. True Christianity does this, it stays out of the way of folks desiring to do evil (undesirable things to others), it gives hope to those with faith in Christ, or not, and seeks to have life more abundantly through the tenants of Christ. Beyond that, anyone doing anything other than that, is working of their own accord..."and that doesn't taste very good, does it precious!" (Smeagol – Lord of the Rings)

      August 2, 2011 at 1:58 pm |
    • Edwin

      I find that people who place blind faith in ANYTHING, whether a god or the peculiar notions inherent in the scientific method, has questionable judgment. The ones who have good judgment are the ones who recognize that part of life is unprovable faith in something, whether it be a religion or science or even just faith in one's family, who embrace their particular beliefs without expecting everyone else to do so.

      August 2, 2011 at 1:59 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ Mark Yelka

      Hi MY ndAll,

      Mark Yelka
      "Any strong adherence to religion" should be measured upon the 3 categories of personhood. 1.Teenage 2. Adolesence and 3. Adutlhood

      Teenagers tend to mimic their peers while Adolensence orientate themselves around highly regarded Doctrines be they the religious or be they Science orientated or even political. Adults who are delegating themselves to religious doctrines do tend to understand that this world is far too much for them to fully fathom with reletavisms' tenacities, while adults who are politically motivated in their adolesence years do so because of their being indictrinated in such early years with agendaships revolving arouns Capitalist perspectives.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:03 pm |
    • JoeProfet

      Just out of curiosity and for my own edification, Edwin, what is the non-Christian definition of faith? I know what the Christian definition is, but never have heard what a non-Christian or atheist, agnostic definition of the word is??? I mean, it would stand to reason that such a word would have virtually no meaning whatsoever in a secular existence. Just wondering what folks think of the word or how they utilize it in their own context??? Educate this Christian, please?

      August 2, 2011 at 2:07 pm |
    • Stevie7


      confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
      belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
      belief in god or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.

      The word does not need to be used in a religious context.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:09 pm |
    • JoeProfet

      Stevie7, thank you for that. I understand what you are saying, but the whole concept is derived from religion...so where did this one come from? I suppose it is fine to take words and define them to your own liking. It is the 21st century after all, and folks today who have been living for but a fraction of time, obviously know better than the 1000's of years of the religious use of the word...

      August 2, 2011 at 2:20 pm |
  6. John Geheran

    On the question of "allegiance", poll respondants are either being less than truthful or are ignorant of the fundamental tenets of their faith. While it is no doubt true that the majority of Muslims desire to live in peace, one needs to examine the meaning of "peace" in the context of Islamic literature. The two most recent Ft Hood events are examples of "peace-loving, moderate" Muslims who became suddenly and inexplicitly radicalized. Until the West is willing to engage in an open and honest debate about the obvious connection between the Qur'an, ahadiths, et al, and the pervasive violence in Muslim society, we will rue the day when Islam is in a position to leverage their numbers.

    August 2, 2011 at 1:49 pm |
    • Edwin

      If you want to delve into the basic tenets of religion, you will find that Christianity is based on intolerance towards other religions, Judaism is based on isolationism, expansionism and violence towards infidels... and the other religions are probably just as bad (but beyond my personal research).

      Religion SHOULD be defined by those who live it, not those on the outside. Unless you PERSONALLY are a muslim, you are an arrogant fool to presume to dictate to REAL muslims what their faith is about. They ARE muslim, and they KNOW what they believe. That is what a religion is, not some dogma on scrolls or old books you happen to find that may or may not have relevance now.

      American Christians do not worship the Bible or the teachings of the 4th century church. They worship the MODERN understanding of Jesus' teachings. Likewise, American Muslims worship a MODERN understanding of the teachings of Mohammed.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:04 pm |
    • JoeProfet

      What NO ONE wants to recognize is that this is a war of religion. Ask the mujaheddin! Jihad is a wholly war... America has failed to acknowledge it and so we are fighting the right enemy for the wrong cause. Terrorist are not just going after America and Americans because of our "political" views on life...it is because we are NOT Muslims, we are considered "Infidels", does anyone else make that association, or is this blind-faith Christian the only one that sees it for what it is? Ask the Muslims in Afghanistan and Pakistan who support America and NATO, those that might still be alive that the mujaheddin have not slaughtered yet, what side the Muslim-Taliban are for! The Muslims in the United States enjoy freedom from the oppressive Sharia Law, and that is all. They do NOT subscribe to the American or Western lifestyle, not in the least bit. So, they are living on a free ticket while American's die for their freedom fighting the oppression of their Muslim brothers!!! Note that fact!

      August 2, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
  7. G.J.G

    Sure they are happy, they get all they want at the expense of others in the U.S. But God forbid you say anything that offends them. There will be bloodshed all over the streets. Soon the U.S. will have the same problems that Europe is having. Take France and England for example. These problems CNN would not dare report. Muslims in France and England close streets on Friday to have their prayers. No other religion is allowed to do that. Some places in France you cannot go to unless you are a Muslim. CNN – Start printing a more realistic picture. Your readers are not so naive.

    August 2, 2011 at 1:46 pm |
    • nino

      I live in San Francisco. Every Sunday a few streets where there are churches are blocked off for parking. Nobody complains. Nobody cares. Its for a few hours and life gets back to normal.

      August 2, 2011 at 1:54 pm |
  8. Areacode6122GM

    keep your rainbow flags away from me.

    August 2, 2011 at 1:44 pm |
    • pfeffernusse

      You seem inordinately preoccupied with hom-ose-xuality. Methinks thou dost protest too much.

      August 4, 2011 at 5:18 pm |
  9. Minister of Mow

    Were these good muslims that were polled?

    August 2, 2011 at 1:42 pm |
    • Michael, Chapel Hill

      They invaded us just before CNN poll and took off immediately after the poll!

      August 2, 2011 at 1:58 pm |
  10. Richard S Kaiser

    We should all try to be a little more malleable when constricting one’s Wordage. I too do sometimes let my anguish flow over the proverbial top of my Brainyard. More perceptions regarding any religious denomination; be they Muslim or otherly groups coming the the U.S. Of America is to either escape their homeland’s religious beliefs they may find as being too strict and can no longer be fully followed or their social wrung on the ladder of success is very low despite their own education being somewhat high.

    August 2, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
  11. word

    This entire "CNNBelief" section is worthless. A complete compendium of non-news. Just call it CNNAstrology.

    August 2, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
    • Nonimus


      August 2, 2011 at 1:43 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser


      August 2, 2011 at 1:43 pm |
    • Edwin

      Then why do you read, and why do you post? Clearly, it motivated YOU to pay attention. I think you should either change how you click, or accept that some 'non-news' is worth reading.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:14 pm |
  12. Amit-Atlanta-USA

    One such greatest source of conflict is the Muslim method of slaughter of animals which follows a ghastly, abhoral Islamic ritual of slow agonizing death to the poor animal. Non-Muslims do not conform to that practice and are CALLING FOR A NATIONWIDE BAN ON HALAL MEAT just the way several EUROPEAN NATIONS have already done. Given Americans' unquenching defense of Animal rights no wonder those organizations are up in arms against both the govt. for failure to bring in necessary regulations banning this GORY PRACTICE.

    Check this video on WHAT HALAL MEAT IS ALL ABOUT – Please exercise caution – It's gory!


    August 2, 2011 at 1:38 pm |
    • Imran

      you mean Kosher? right?

      August 2, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
    • Imran

      might I forgot to add yummyyyyyyyy steaks

      August 2, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
    • Imran

      and of course being a Hindu, it must hurt to see your god chopped into pieces and it cannot even defend itself. How is it going to protect you.

      August 2, 2011 at 1:44 pm |
    • Loriel

      Thank you for bringing to light this terrible practice; however, that being said; it is also practiced for Kosher meat and it is done to pigs by the thousands every single day; no matter what the religion. There is nothing attractive about the meat industry and it could be prosecuted as felony animal abuse. I do not care whether you eat meat or not; as a human with any compassion you should be horrified.

      August 2, 2011 at 1:46 pm |
    • WickedWitch

      Amit is well know turd on the Sound Off boards propagating anti-muslim / pro-hindu views. wonder what he does for a living post on message boards?

      August 2, 2011 at 1:53 pm |
    • Big Bob

      Unfortunatly, Europe hasn't been able to ban halal food. England's population is swimming in it, and that includes the kufr population. It's served in restaraunts, sporting events, prisons. Only muslims are permitted to be halal butchers.
      He who controls the food....

      August 2, 2011 at 1:57 pm |
    • Plato

      This happens everyday here in American slaughter houses. Where do you think Burgers and Steaks come from. whats your point?

      August 2, 2011 at 1:58 pm |
    • Amit-Atlanta-USA

      I eat meat but I will never EVER touch halal meat.

      I see many restuarnts, schools, offices serve halal meat just to placate a small percentage of their clientale knowing fully the majority would not care.

      Whatever the religious overtones of this GORY PRACTICE, Americans should join Animal rights groups in NOT merely rejecting Halal meat, but also ban this pratice altogether. Muslims can always import their Halal meat from other sources just as many European Muslims do.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ ALL

      The world's "Practice" of killing all Life Forms should be done in more humane a fashion as was 1st shown in this video. BUT, should nations and principalities let continue less humane practices all for the glories of,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?

      I know that here in the United States a more humane practice of killing cattle is either a bullet to the head or a more shocking way,,,,,,,,:-(

      They cut off the heads of poultry and their body flops hither and there trying to fly away.

      As our being Omnivores meaning we eat almost every kind of life forms found to be socially/culturally accepted. China and otherly Asian countries eat cats and dogs and all manner of sea life we of the newest world orders find distasteful to our cultured views and individualized perspectives.

      Of GOD, By God we eat as gods eat! 🙁

      August 2, 2011 at 2:41 pm |
    • pfeffernusse

      Amit, you are a hypocrite. You eat meat but you cry about how one group of people kills their stock? In US factory farms, cows’ heads are locked into a stock where they are stunned with either an electric shock or a bolt to the brain. This doesn’t always work. Many cows arrive at the spot where their throats are cut fully aware or in terrible pain. They are hung upside down by their back feet and carried to the killing area by conveyor belt. THAT is the reality of corporate farming in this country and far more animals die like that, in miserable conditions, than die at the hands of halal and kosher butchers. Quit trying to score political points on the backs of animals for sympathy points.

      August 4, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
  13. Abdallah

    That's what the Quraan teaches Muslims about nonmuslims. It doesn't say anything about killing.

    Say, "O disbelievers,
    I do not worship what you worship.
    Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.
    Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.
    Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.
    For you is your religion, and for me is my religion."

    August 2, 2011 at 1:38 pm |
    • mynamewas

      @ those below who say the Koran does not encourage violence against anyone:

      Quran (2:191-193) – “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]…and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”

      Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”.

      Quran (5:33) – “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement”

      Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

      Quran (9:5) – “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.”

      From the Hadith:

      Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

      Bukhari (52:256) – The Prophet… was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, “They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans).” In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.

      Muslim (19:4321-4323) – Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers. His response: “They are of them (meaning the enemy).”

      Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, “Kill any Jew who falls under your power.” Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad’s men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.

      Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

      Ibn Ishaq: 327 – “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

      August 2, 2011 at 2:02 pm |
    • mynamewas

      Those who say that the Koran preaches no violence:

      Muslim (19:4321-4323) – Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers. His response: “They are of them (meaning the enemy).”

      Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, “Kill any Jew who falls under your power.” Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad’s men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.

      Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

      Ibn Ishaq: 327 – “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

      August 2, 2011 at 2:04 pm |
    • Edwin

      Blah, blah, blah,... the Q'ran teaches violence, blah, blah, blah....

      So does EVERY religion, according to some passages and interpretations. Christianity has caused MORE violence in the United States than Islam, and most of it is by scripture. Consider all the abortion clinics bombed, the churches burned by those in other christian sects, the number of jews and gays killed by christians who were vocal about their religious motivations to do so.

      Relgions SHOULD BE DEFINED by those who actually live them. Most christians I know are normal people who would never kill another person for their faith. Likewise, the muslims I know are normal people who would never commit violence for their faith.

      Stop trying to define Islam, unless you personally are muslim. You do not know the religion unless you have studied it IN GOOD FAITH. You have not done so, so your quotes are merely snippets designed to ignite anger, not useful knowledge.

      I asked a muslim once about Jihad. He explained that it is very real, but it is INTERNAL to the person. It is the eternal struggle between good and evil in one's soul, not a call to kill others. It is similar in concept to asking Jesus to forgive one's sins (but very different in the particulars that define both religions).

      Just as Christianity has evolved from the Middle Ages and the ordained torturing of the Spanish Inquisition, so Islam is evolving. American muslims are NOT the barbaric people you think you know - they are different than you, but they are not evil.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
    • Nymrod

      @mynamewas: violence in the Quran is largely a defense against attack, and was contextual to particular situations that happened 1300 years ago during Islams inception. The bible too has enough references to violence. Ever heard of the term "Biblical Holocaust"? Im sure I can wiki "violence in the bible" and post every quote I find but then those references too would be quoted out of context.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
  14. america

    so what! who cares about the muslims they are whats wrong in the world anyway

    August 2, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
    • Abdallah

      You mean the jews, right?

      August 2, 2011 at 1:38 pm |
    • D

      Wow...both of you are kinda worthless huh?

      August 2, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
    • mommers

      We'll see how loyal Muslims are to America if we ever have to side with Isreal against a major muslim threat.

      August 2, 2011 at 1:48 pm |
    • Abdallah


      "If you ever have to", like Israel can really exist if there was no ultimate support from the US.
      The US is already supporting the terrorist state of Israel, yet many american-muslims are dying defending their country, America.

      August 2, 2011 at 1:56 pm |
    • silver

      Remember in the old testament that all religions can agree on, that the Jews are God's choose people. Those who are against god's people are not his friend. The Unites States knows this and that's why we are blessed, and those countries who want to see Israel taken off the map will be cursed.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:08 pm |
    • Laughing


      So you like to shoot yourself in the foot huh? Cool, let me help you guide the bullet. If you want to preach that islam is a peaceful religion, awesome, go for it have a ball. Then agian, if you want to call Israel a terorrist state, target jews and be all around a sterotypical muslim fanatic then you can do that as well. If you want to be peaceful you might want to reconsider your stance on jews though, just sayin.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:10 pm |
  15. MikeySD

    Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

    August 2, 2011 at 1:36 pm |
  16. Chuck Steak

    "Nearly half of the Muslim Americans surveyed by Gallup said they have experienced racial or religious discrimination in the United States" So, I guess people are the same the whole world over; except that in their countries there are laws against building churches, acts of murderous violence against Christians, laws against marrying outside the majority religion, laws against Christians serving in government and the military, etc. Yep, Muslims really have it rough here.

    August 2, 2011 at 1:35 pm |
    • A Christian

      Discriminating them is one thing. Cutting their heads off is another...

      August 2, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
    • Nonimus

      Why are you comparing American citizen's lives with lives in foreign countries?

      August 2, 2011 at 1:38 pm |
    • Edwin

      There are laws in the United States against building mosques. A recent case in Tennessee should come to mind - the construction was approved at first, but arsonists destroyed it, so they rebuilt. Arsonists again destroyed it, and the police were somehow baffled by the case...

      Then the town council ruled that having a mosque in town was a bad idea, so the permit was revoked - halfway through the third attempt to build it. Mind you, the official reason was not that it was a mosque (that would be a violation of the Freedom of Religion rules), but the real reason (admitted by most of the people involved) was that it was a mosque.

      The United States might have laws allowing the building of religious houses of all sorts, but 'concerned citizens' can always block 'undesirables' from building.

      Let's also not forget the mosque near Ground Zero, which lost its construction crew because of multiple death threats (I don't blame the construction crew - I would not risk my life to build a building...).

      The United States is only as tolerant as its people, and its people are not as tolerant as you apparently think.

      August 2, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
  17. A Christian

    Of course U.S. Muslims are going to be more apt on the future. Christianity and its values are shirinking within the states. This is sole reason for our downfall. It's happened time and time again in The Bible. The U.S. is next.

    August 2, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
    • jkn

      Oh stop it with the whiny victimization.

      August 2, 2011 at 1:46 pm |
  18. mynamewas

    If they are so loyal why are they not working more effectively against the Islamic extremists in their countries of origin that detest the US? Even the Imam who wanted to build the mosque near ground zero went about telling his fellow muslims in the middle east about how bad US policies were. How does that combat Islamic fundamentalism much less help the US and prove his loyalty? In any country where they are in a minority, muslims pledge loyalty and wait until they are stronger. When they grow in number they start agitating for Sharia laws and for greater acceptance of their medieval ideals.

    August 2, 2011 at 1:29 pm |
  19. Rami

    Not zurw why this was done. I could of told you. We love this country, and if you don't want to live with Muslims, you can leave,

    August 2, 2011 at 1:27 pm |
  20. Areacode6122GM

    Like gays, I don't care if you're Muslim or not, just keep it out of my face.

    August 2, 2011 at 1:25 pm |
    • Nonimus

      Don't stick your face in other people's business.

      August 2, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
    • Areacode6122GM

      Um... ever read the paper? It's in my face every day. Dope.

      August 2, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
    • Nonimus

      In the paper, seriously? Since when is an article in the newspaper sticking it in your face?

      You pay for the paper... you don't like what it prints... um.... complain to the frickin editor... or DON"T BUY IT!


      August 2, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
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