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August 5th, 2011
09:35 PM ET
Perry prayer event hopes to pray away the malaiseBy Jim Acosta and Erika Dimmler, CNN Houston, Texas (CNN) – Rick Perry seems to believe in the power of mixing prayer and politics. The Texas governor has called on both Christians and politicians to attend his religious gathering, dubbed "The Response," in Houston this weekend. In a video posted on "The Response" web site, Perry said he hopes worshipers at the event will help kick-start the nation's sluggish economy. In other words: pray away the malaise. Read the full story at CNN's Political Ticker |
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How sad that Gov. Perry ignores the rest of the US population and the religions they choose to follow, or not to follow. No Catholics invited, Buddhist, Muslims, Jews, and atheists and agnostics ignored. We all pray in a different ways. To some of us prayer is meditation. To others it's a walk in the woods [the cathedral of nature]. 'God' is different for everyone. We should be united as a human race, not by a religion we subscribe to. If this is going to be a prayer rally then it should include everyone. This is just another reason to keep religion out of government and another reason why the GOP is no longer 'grand.'
Stop pretending to speak for those that don't believe. That's insulting.
I don't pray; I actually work to fix things when they're broken. I wish the lazy, wimpy fools praying to their sky fairy to save them from their debts would get off their fat as-ses and do some work and pay some taxes for change, instead of paying money to the coffers of charlatans like Rick Perry.
Well if praying keeps me from having debt and having to pay taxes I dont see anything wrong with that. I will just leave it up to the atheists to do all the work for me.
Pope Gregory VII. was one of the first men, mixing politics with religion. Like Muhammad he filled the world with blood, in order to increase his earthly power, honour and riches. Muhammad and the pope used religion as smoke screen for their malice.
Let us be on alert, when someone tries to mix politics and religion!
Satan's commandments:
Dictatus Papae (by Pope Gregory VII., the Antichrist)
(Extract)
8.That the pope alone may use the imperial insignia.
9.That of the pope alone all princes shall kiss the feet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10.That his name alone shall be spoken in the churches.
11.That this is the only name in the world.
12.That it may be permitted to him to depose emperors.
19.That he himself may be judged by no one.
Hey Rainer, you might want to move your clock forward about a thousand years.
That is without limit: That papal laws are still valid! It’s only that the secular powers are too strong at the moment and the pope cannot behave like he wishes to behave. I hope the US will recover economically, othewise the papal monster will seize rule again.
Joke: “I believe in God, the Pope, the Allmighty!”
Let us abolish both papacy and Islam. We would spare us many wars!
@Rainer is keeping up with current events again.
Assumed, the secular states will go bankrupt, I am sure that the pope will behave according to his satanic law again.
The Dictatus Papae is still valid. Are you aware of it?
@Rainer Braendlein
You Said: " Let us be on alert, when someone tries to mix politics and religion! "
LOL !!! Given all of your postings in the past, now how can you 'even' say that with a straight face...? 😯
Are just not literally aware of the contradictory and one-sided sub-text and dogma of your own postings...?
Regards,
Peace...
Actually, it was the Emperor Constantine who made Christianity the state religion and began the serious persecution of first the pagans, then all dissenters from the mainstream. He also switched the Sabbath from Saturday, as the Bible decrees, to Sunday, and sponsored the various Councils that defined Christianity and the New Testament and set it in stone. A bit later the Emperor Julian tried to restore the openness and freedom of paganism, but by that time the Church had the whip hand and wasn't about to share power.
God sent us tsunamis, tornados, plus cancers, meningities, typhoid, and other awful diseases and horrors too numerous to mention. And he has never, ever responded to a prayer. Doesn't that make you question the Christian god's existence? It should.
If you really believe that such a deity exists, and expect it to reverse the economic malaise and other problems that you face instead of working to fix them yourself and holding your elected officials responsible for same, then you deserve what you get.
Start taking responsibity for your own life. No god or other fairy in the sky is going to come down and save you.
A Proud American
Reply to JF: Agreed. Belief in 'God' is a personal choice or belief. 'God' does not control the weather. 'God' does not answer prayers. Humans are responsible for the evil in this world. And only humans can get rid of it. We all need to be personally responsible for the bad that happens and most importantly we need to lead good lives and instill in our children to so the same. If anything, we should pray, reflect or meditate so that we can do these things. Another reason to keep religion out of politics and government.
REAL SHOOTING IN UTOYA or NORWEGIAN "AFTERLIFE" $$ FLASH MOB !!? stateofterror.blogspot.com/ or stateofterror.wordpress.com/ REAL TEARS OR TEAR GAS AND PURE THEATER ON FACES OF MANIACS !!? OSLO POLICE or COMMUNIST/LIBERAL CRIMINALS WHO WERE PREPARING FOR ACT OF TERROR AGAINST NORWAY AND EUROPE ALMOST HALF DECADE(collecting proofs and photos) AHEAD !!? WILL THERE BE APOCALYPSE NOW(Abomination) OR TOTAL RESISTANCE(civil war) !!? No doubt about bombing in Oslo, but what about shooting in Utoya !!!?
ARIZONA = UTOYA and STOLTENBERG = BREIVIK (90 minutes vs 30 and for government vehicles or police even 20 minutes the most) !!!
Me CRAZY, have FUMBLEFINGERS that keep RANDOMLY hitting CAPS LOCK as if THAT word is especially imPORtant!
MY BRANE HURTS EVEN MORE THAN USUAL, get MESSAGES from the neighbor's CAT about CONSPIRACIES ! ! ! ! ! !
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I find it very bold of Rick Perry to basically announce to "God" and country that he is so ill-equipped as governor of Texas that he has to turn to an invisible deity for help. It's a good thing prayer is rarely effective considering who he is praying to. If God did choose to answer this particular prayer to fix our nation during its economic problems, the best we can hope for is a massive global flood, the killing of first born sons or the blood sacrifice of himself to himself.
This is the same scumbag who ran around saying Texas needed to secede. He's just pandering to the rubes again, the yokels who are so stupid that they don't see this carnival freak show for the obvious fraud that it is. Perry is out for attention and votes, nothing more.
I find it quite amazing that there are enough gullible morons in Texas to elect this snake oil salesman to dogcatcher, much less governor.
I think his wannabe presidential campaign has settled on "Bush: the Sequel," as a winning slogan. We need fewer cheerleaders and more star players. Yet all the Republicans are offering is a clown car full of choices, pom-pons shaking and tassels twirling.
"More things are wrought by prayer than this world dreams of.”
By Ruth Bertels
Yes, on our knees as individuals and collective groups of people and look to God for forgiveness , healing and Wisdom to get back on track.
If your fence needs fixing, will prayer fix it. or do you need to get your butt out there with a hammer and nails?
If you get pneumonia, will prayer fix it, or do you need to get your butt to the hospital?
More things are wrought by getting off your butt and doing something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eSo04WA_JM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o
I pray I will never have to listen to anything by Celine Dion and Josh Groban.
Prayer,, well I guess dreams and prayers are the same thing.. what you have to do is wake up and work with reality to get the problem solved. The tea party folks will, as most tea does, end up in hot water .
I don't know Perry and quite frankly Republicans from Texas have done great damage to this country. That said, though, the concept of turning our faces to God and REPENTING(a concept which is foreign to the modern church) does and will work. If the man is sincere, then more power to him. Turning to the Lord is the only hope for this(or any) nation. The church has been pathetic and weak lately-allowing the military to be sodomized without a fight and allowing Israel to be bullied by the last four president. The modern church seems to be more concerned with not "offending" anyone. It needs to wake up and realize that the Gospel is a rock of offense. To all you atheists-your way just isn't cutting it.
That's right all you atheists. No more separation of church and state. It's time for the American Inquisition. Where's my torch?
To all you atheists-your way just isn't cutting it.
Our way is reality. You should join us.
Invisible friends and magic miracles are reality. Really.
You don't have any answers, you just want to foist responsibility on the supernatural ent-ity of your choice, or actually, your very human religious leader of choice. Try searching for real solutions to problems. Problems don't get solved until humans get off their behinds and do it themselves.
In case you hadn't noticed, this nation is falling on its face-never to get up again. People like the three of you are suceeding in removing God from America and the church has sat by largely silent and allowed you to do it. Now we ALL will reap the "benefits" of such foolishness. You asked for it. Enjoy.
"if the man is sincere" lets you off the hook for having an opinion. selling sincerity is a politicians real goal.
This nation was founded by men who valued reason over religion. The founding fathers separated church from state because they could see from examples in Europe how princes, even princes of the church, corrupt government and destroy freedom.
It's become clear that individuals with great wealth have taken the place of those princes in corrupting this nation. You like to blame godlessness, but it's greed that has destroyed America. Pray all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that many of the people who are responsible for the problems this country faces are praying to the same god, and some of them even pretend to speak for him.
Keith...your " way " has had it for thousands of years and the world is a mess...your time is up. You have proved that god does not exist . Sorry, but the time is here to actually start to work and solve the problems with our brains instead of mumbo jumbo. I bet that god does not tell Rick to allow churches to pay taxes to assist the nation will he!!!
EvolvedDna, if you want to see something about paying taxes, scroll down a bit further on the page.
This is rather sad article when you consider the facts...praying for the correction of something they caused is worthless but then again praying is worthless.
The Tea Party put Obama's back against a wall...he wouldn't have won no matter what way he went...they were holding the country hostage. He should have raised taxes instead of caving to these right wing nut jobs.
It's a very sad day when the credit rating of a country drops.
Good luck America..with the tea partiers in partial power you're gonna need a tremendous amount of support from the secular side if you ever intend to stay above water. (Please christian morons, no comments...face reality here...without the tea party being arrogant sob's this wouldn't be happening)
I can't agree with you more, and only feel the need to include that if someone like Perry were to become the President of the US, our nation would be doomed. The Teabaggers are actually threatening the stability of this nation, as it is. I hope that after the debacle that was the debt ceiling debate, that the voters in this nation will rise up and throw all the bums out of office who caused the problem. This was a MADE UP crisis in which a small representation of our nation's population, held this nation's good name and good credit, hostage. I watched this "crisis" unfold feeling helpless and appalled. I promise you this, I will work tirelessly in the next election cycle to support ANYONE, regarless of party affilliation, who runs against a Teabagger for ANY political office. Period.
Raise taxes on whom? I don't know about you, but I pay plenty in taxes every year. Obama's benefactor GE paid ZERO. I guess that makes the middle class the new "rich" in his eyes. Wonder what he considers corporations that, after paying ZERO taxes and making billions in profits, turn around send jobs to China? What are they called? Maybe he could help with our budget woes if his wife would quit jet-setting around the world with her family on our dime.
@Keith: I agree with you here. Unfortunately the tea party wanted the poor taxed more heavily than they already are and didn't want more taxes imposed on the rich or companies like GE (their tax rebate was a little outrageous). It all comes down to bringing in revenue to consolidate the crisis and as long as there is a separation like this, it will continue to be problematic.
the downgrade means billions for lenders in raised interest. it couldn,t rise without a reason. more self-help for the financial industry. thans for the tea idiots
Some observations in the 21st century:
After a careful and thorough review, it is apparent that we have been fed significant mumbo-jumbo with respect to the life of Jesus.
Brothers and Sisters stop and read about the real Jesus. Develop the new view!!! Jesus was a simple, illiterate, 1st century, preacher/magic man. The Beat-itudes are pure Jesus. His giving to Caesar what was Caesars is pure Jesus. The rest was embellishment upon embellishment of the life of said simple preacher man!!! The "miracles" were added to compete with the local "voodooers of the hoodoo". The resurrection was added to compete with Roman and Greek gods and the "pretty wingie thingies" and "demons of the demented added to continue the fear and superst-itions of the ancients!!!!!"
Some observations in the 21st century:
After careful, it is apparent that we have been fed significant mu-mbo-jumbo with respect to the life of Jesus.
Brothers and Sisters stop and read about the real Jesus. Develop the new view!!! Jesus was a simple, illiterate, 1st century, preacher/magic man. The Beat-itudes are pure Jesus. His giving to Caesar what was Caesars is pure Jesus. The rest was embellishment upon embellishment of the life of said simple preacher man!!! The "miracles" were added to compete with the local "voodooers of the hoodoo". The resurrection was added to compete with Roman and Greek gods and the "pretty wingie thingies" and "demons of the demented added to continue the fear and superst-itions of the ancients!!!!!"
When you're not qualified to hold public office, appealing to the faithful is an effective - albeit desperate and pathetic - device to garner support for your campaign. Fortunately for Southern conservatives, we don't yet live in an age where political platforms constructed on fear and xenophobia fail to earn votes.
Important American people have been mostly Christian for all time from the start. It's the last few decades the American public became openly perv and the secularists started oppressing Christians on the American soil – in the very place the Christian religion must be fully promoted! The Jews killed their Messiah; Americans silence those who follow the Founding Fathers. The true descendants of the American Founding Fathers now live in the Non-West. Sicko injustice is common in the human societies, the reason there is the Judgment Day from God. God's truth and goodness overcomes every human injustice.
Dude, you are WAY Right, as in socially Right, not correct in your beliefs. Your argument is silly at best, scary at worst. Your analogy of worshiping the moon is kind of poetic, however. Tell me this, what proof do you possess that makes your god any more real than the thousands of other gods that have been deemed mythology? As for atheists being evil or whatever you want to call us, that's just the fear in you speaking. Anyone who worships a zombie, who puts their faith in a 2000++ year old book, and who claims to worship a mythical being in the sky; might as well worship the moon. At least the moon is real.
And yet more words of inanity from the "red-necked" lady of many names!!!
Truthmatters..but in fact you turn away from any real truth dont you....you have your head in the sand and hope for an invisible hand to pull it out.... will never happen.
@ a person of the Name: I'm very happy that you have acceped Christ as your personal Savior–that is exciting. I wish I couldn't have warned you that you stepped into a trap when you said that slavery was not ok and never was ok. Slavery is just one of the mysteries of the Bible, just like polygamy and the keeping of harems and possiably some other things that God allowed. But, you can search all the Bible and not find any place that God condems it.I suppose thats because slavery of Biblical times was different than it was in early America, which was very crule. There were slaves that were held in high esteem, such as the eldest slave of Abraham, Joesph in Egypt and Daniel and others all which served God. We as people of finite minds can not always explain what God does. Please, don't try to prove there is a God from the Bible, there is none, only the evidence of God and that is what we put our faith in–thats the way God wants it, He wants our faith,love and obeience. I will keep you in my prayers.
Uh, Bo, big "Oops" should come from you for that one. Support for slavery is rampant throughout the bible. Nice try at selling your delusion though, but try taking responsibility for your life instead of tripping over your big-daddy-in-the-sky myth. Try this on, you liar and coward:
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
Bo...in other words he wants slaves??
i am racially Hebrew. you are now my slave. Report to my place immediately. the toilet needs cleaning and their are crops to harvest. Sell your children on the way over, i need some drinkin money tonight. tell your sister too.I wanna little infidel (christian) tang tonight...... (just kiddin, i'm not hebrew.)
Lol @ I get it. That's me all over. Lol
@ a person of the Name:
Do you not know how to use the "Reply" button here?
@I_get_it
You said "Do you not know how to use the "Reply" button here?"
Maybe a person of the Name is praying for his/her replies to end up on the right conversation.
@peace2all many Christians believe the end of day is very close and tend to look at what going on in the world as proof. As the way non-blievers treat us and the global unrest.
@a person of the Name
I understand that there are many Christians that 'believe' that 'end times' are here.
However, looking at "what is going on in the world" as proof, is a violation of 'complex equivalencies.'
Whatever is going on in the world, does not *mean* that end days are here.
Regards,
Peace...
LOL at the end of times being near, it's been "NEAR" for over 2000 years. Come on people, wake up, your reality is skewed and you are going to die one day and your time on earth will be OVER and as such you will have wasted your life for NOTHING.
another " i can scare you....end times BOO" " now give me your money, move to Jewrusalem, and kill some heathens "yeeeehaww
wooooooohhooohh end times ... BOO... scary things coming on horses. save me daddy what will i do now. wake up its just bad dream not a vision
According to the NT the end was supposed to come immediately. When it didn't Christian apologists simply changed the date. The year 1000 was absolutely, positively the end. When it didn't happen, various "prophets" began predicting it over and over again, and have been wrong every time. The newest dates are October 21st of this year and December 21st of 2012. Mark your calendar and prepare to be wrong again. If Christianity still exists 2,000 years from now predictions of the end being near will still be generated, and still be wrong.
Where does the NT say that the end will come immediately?
What America needs is a Boaz anointing. If everyone will send Jesus $1000, then I'm certain this will solve all of our problems.
@ peace2all your most welcome. We are ment to share our experiances with others and love others no matter what they believe. Thank you very much for your blessing! 🙂
@a person of the Name
Yes... from our discussion back on page #1.
You are welcome. Again, thank you for sharing your experience, and also again... wishing you and your wife much love, happiness and success.
Regards,
Peace...
@ truthmatters wow man a little exstream. Yes I do see the represstion from non-believer but we have no right to judge them. That's for God not us and to judge them is to call judgement on yourself.
@A-person. You are only partially right. Christians are commanded to make judgment on moral issues and proclaim the truth. Non-believers in USA have rights to know the truth about themselves, being told by believers. They must not be left in their own darkness.
TruthSmatters: "...being told by believers."
Who are your recommended 'believers'? Exactly which church do you want them to heed? No general, evasive answer, please.
@I-Don't-Get-It; why, all the Christians who acknowledge Jesus is God.
TruthMatters:
As I expected, you did not answer WHO *exactly* they are supposed to believe. Would it be Fred Phelps? Terry Jones down in Florida (the Koran burner), Warren Jeffs? Eddie Long? Robert Schuller? Pastor Pete down at the local VFW hall/church? WHO?
p.s. Each of those 'believers' has their own take and puts their own spin on your alleged message from Jesus. Some are very harsh and vicious, like you; and others are more touchy-feely, warm and fuzzy. They do not agree on many things. They cannot ALL be right... but they can ALL be wrong, you know.
@ I don't get it: You are so very correct. You should NEVER expect a straight answer to a rational question directed at an irrational christian. The classic response to rationality is to a) get angry and start calling names; or b) ignore the question and continue to spout the same old rhetoric, often repeatedly. This is because many of the irrational christians do not take the time to think about the alternatives and form reasonable and rational responses. Often, this is because when faced with the rationality of atheism, christians are confused, angry, and uable to comprehend what is being said. Many so called christians know less about their own holy book than atheists do, and the reason for this is because atheists are seekers of the truth, christians are living a life based solely on blind obedience to the sky god.
if you are quoting the bible you are incorrect. a letter from Paul specifically instructs to identify, correct or ostracize wrong doers. is it true atheists know more about theology than christians............................................................uh...........yeah
Americans are stupid to mock Christianity when they are losing everything from honor to family to money. Americans don't really know what real crisis or sufferings are except the American missionaries and American soldiers. Even if there were troubles, those only made the media richer. Americans have been always in safety for most part. It's time to listen to godly figures nation-wide again. Anti-Christian Americans must not be allowed to live in USA since Christians created the nation for Christians. Atheists should immigrate to China or North Korea, their own.
You really don't know American History that well, do you. We have never been a 'Christian Nation' and in spite of conservative evangel Christians repeatedly stating thus, still does not make it so.
Christianity does not have the market cornered on honor, family or money or any quality for that matter. Such a statement is very presumptuous on your part. Last if not least, is your comment on how these people should not be allowed to live in America. Such a statement reflects the ideals of the Taliban. If you want to come across as the Taliban, that's your business but I'd really suggest you reevaluate your positions on many of the things you stated.
Ron, you are the ignorant generation of unAmericans. Christians did everything well and you non-believing parasites, hijackers, aliens are taking over the good country Christians toiled to set up. Taliban oppressed and destroyed and abused, but Christians helped, rescued, liberated and developed. Stop making the stupidest equasion. Likes of you are the reason I say America never suffered any real tyranny or oppresion. Fattened, immoral naivettes. Say sorry to Christians.
TruthMatters: YOU, my "friend" are a troll, nothing more. I can't imagine IF there is a god, he would advocate the nonsense that spouts from your narrow minded perspective of the world. It amazes me that you good "Christians" fail to follow your own messiah's teachings. You mine the Bible for texts that support your narrow mindedness, that support your evangelical view of the world, and you spout off with ideas that simply have no merit. Instead of like we atheists, you seek to divide the populace into labeled groups, instead of seeking ways to correct what is wrong with our nation. I am particularly amused at how you mine the old testament for your vitriolic rants, then run back to the new testament to claim you worship a loving god. Do you not see your own hypocricy? Of course you don't, you're a Christian....
TruthMatters...yawn. When you decide to have a real conversation, let me know. Until then, vomit your opinion, all you want.
make me goober
Godless Americans will ruin the nation. America needs no external enemies since it is internally corrosive already because of godlessness. Before that happens, American Christians must unite and pray harder.
You are a fountain of ignorance and a disgrace to your faith Adelina...
End of days and non-believers prove scriptures truth of famine of hearing Jesus' word.
Amen.
"End of days and non-believers prove scriptures truth of famine of hearing Jesus' word."
Right....
"pray harder"
No more lackadaisical praying. This time really mean it. It's bound to work.
@HeavenSent
" End of days and non-believers prove scriptures truth of famine of hearing Jesus' word. '
Care to decode this from crazy-speak...?
Peace...
@Peace: HeavenSent makes perfect sense. Atheists should admit they are too evil and too stupid to comprehend the Scriptures. Immorality is inability to understand the religious texts. Atheists should stop the false pretention of knowing anything.
@Truth:Immorality is inability to understand the religious texts.
Considering that much of the religious texts are immoral, I have to disagree with you. Believing and following religious texts that claim to be inspired from a deity and therefore infallible, is not the best path to take towards morality. They have all been written and rewritten by man since their creation. They are fallible, they are contradictory, and at times just flat out wrong. So an atheist is evil because they don't believe your book? What about the millions of theist on this planet that also don't believe your book? Are they all evil too? On the contrary, If an atheist picks a god any god is that okay? What if I worship the moon and write a book that I insist was inspired by the moon? Does that count? Will I then be a good, intelligent, and moral member of society?
And a million extremist Muslims are praying 5 times a day to their "God" that you will fail and that they will prevail. Does this "God" keep a tally of quanti.ty and quality of prayers and then make a decision in favor the the bestest and the mostest? Or, will 'he' do nothing, like always.
Prayer and meditation might help you to focus and center yourself regarding your goals, but there is no evidence that they affect any supernatural being one iota.
screw you....sorry jebus told me to tell you that amen