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Capsule containing Pope John Paul II's blood heading to Mexico
August 10th, 2011
07:49 AM ET

Capsule containing Pope John Paul II's blood heading to Mexico

By the CNN Wire Staff

MEXICO CITY (CNN) - A capsule containing the blood of Pope John Paul II will be flown to Mexico next week and displayed in more than 100 locations across the country, officials announced Tuesday.

The blood - drawn in a hospital before the pope's death in 2005 - will be on view in Mexico until mid-December, the country's Catholic Bishops Council said.

A collection of relics connected to the former pope and a rendering of his face copied from a mold taken after his death will also be part of the display, officials said.

"In the perception of a Mexico plunged into terror, pain, hopelessness, anguish, vengeance and rancor as a result of insecurity and violence ... the veneration of the relics will be an opportunity for the baptized and people of good will to turn their eyes to God," the Rev. Manuel Corral, the council's public relations secretary, told reporters.

In their journey around Mexico, the relics will travel more than 22,500 kilometers (13,980 miles). They are scheduled to arrive in Mexico City on August 17 and will go on public display August 25.

Nearly 84% of Mexicans say they are Catholic, according to the country's 2010 census.

The former pope - who became a saint in May - developed a close bond with Mexican Catholics and travelled to the country on five papal visits. Church officials trumpeted the relics' impending arrival with a statement titled, "John Paul II returns to Mexico."

"Pope John Paul II as much in his words as in his history has always been a pilgrim of peace," said Bishop Victor Rene Rodriguez Gomez, the bishops council's secretary-general. "The visit of the relics will give us a chance to reflect on these ideas."

"It is the moment to pray for peace," he added.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Catholic Church • Mexico • Pope John Paul II

soundoff (299 Responses)
  1. Rainer Braendlein

    We must finally comprehend that the papal office is an abomination in itself. This is independent from the individual, who currently holds the papal office (of course, accepting the papal office is a heavy sin in itself).

    So, please believe me, my comment is not an personal attack against Benny Rat or Carol Wojtyla, but an attack against the papacy.

    Does the pope abuse children?

    August 11, 2011 at 7:29 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      Yes, but indirectly: The core requirement for a Catholic priest is unmarried state. The RCC thinks that the main attribute of Christ-likeness is the unmarried state. They assume that someone, who is married, cannot be in a deep relationship with Christ.

      August 11, 2011 at 7:32 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      There is a special term within the RCC: "in persona Christi". It means in a real sense that an ordained priest is a little Christ. Little Christs guaranty the presensce of the Holy Spirit within the RCC. They are Christ-Mages or Christ-Wizards (at Eucharist they change the host and the wine into the body and blood of Christ).

      August 11, 2011 at 7:34 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      Assumed,the pope would abolish celibacy, the RCC would colapse, because she had no more men, being able to change host and wine into the body and blood of Christ.

      Conclusion: The pope is forced to keep celibacy, in order to keep his Church. But celibacy confuses the hormonal balance of the priests, because they are not allowed to touch a wife. Finally they touch childreen, in order to get satisfaction.

      The pope indirectly abuses children by not abolishing celibacy.

      Solution: Papacy and celibacy must be abolished by a union of states. They should establish their own National Churches and cut off any connection with the Vatican.

      August 11, 2011 at 7:37 am |
    • gerald

      "They assume that someone, who is married, cannot be in a deep relationship with Christ."

      Anyone who reads and believes your nonsense Rainer is nutz. The Church has canonized many saints who have been married as having a deep relationship with Christ. They call all the laity daily to strengthen their relationship with Christ. You bear false witness once again.

      August 11, 2011 at 12:28 pm |
    • gerald

      Rainer, once again you make false claims. You say the Church would go away if it abolished celibacy. Yet Eastern Rite priests are not celibate. Marriage is allowed in many rites in the Catholic Chuch. These priests can consecrate the Eucharist and these Rites do not die. You know little or nothing about Catholicism.

      August 11, 2011 at 12:30 pm |
  2. Faith

    The Catholics should really stop worshipping substance and dead people instead of Jesus. It's idolatry. If they really mind about Jesus or love Him, they would read His Word and do His will. Not this idol worship. Pope John Paul II must be mourning in Heaven now. Such capsules should be smashed in the Old Testament way.

    August 11, 2011 at 3:35 am |
    • Andrew Hernandez

      That's wrong. Why worship Jesus when it specifically says in the bible worship only one God. And that God is the Lord God, Not Jesus. Catholics are wrong to worship saints, virgin mary, and all these false objects not worthy of worship. Only the Lord God.

      August 11, 2011 at 3:58 am |
    • Faith

      @Andrew: Read the Gospels, Acts, Epistles, and Revelation. Jesus accepted worship and the whole creation including angels and humans worshipped Him! Elohim(God) is a plural noun and Jesus is the Lord God Himself.

      August 11, 2011 at 5:10 am |
    • jimtanker

      It's all a bunch of made up cr@p anyways. Just live a good life and be happy.

      August 11, 2011 at 5:58 am |
    • gerald

      I guess God is an idolator too.

      Psalm 72:14] From oppression and violence he redeems their life;
      and PRECIOUS is their blood in his sight.

      August 11, 2011 at 5:18 pm |
  3. RightTurnClyde

    What a difficult dilemma .. whether to watch the popes blood or a bull fight. Whether to light a candle or use holy water. Whether to make a novena or go to Walmart. It's not easy these days. Hard choices.

    August 11, 2011 at 12:29 am |
    • RightTurnClyde

      "I see by your outfit that you are a pope-oh " (I needed 2 syllables)
      These words he did say as I boldly stepped by,
      "Come sit down beside me and hear my sad story,
      I was travelin around to 100 countries."
      ...... ......
      "Let sixteen padres come handle my vile,
      Let sixteen nuns come sing me a song,
      Take me to 100 places and let the folks touch me
      For I'm a old pope-oh and I know some good songs.

      August 11, 2011 at 1:00 am |
  4. a person of the Name

    @ reality it doesn't matter how many times you post that. It doesn't change who Jesus is. Anything else is a devils attemp at a lie.

    August 10, 2011 at 11:46 pm |
    • Taknihim

      The only way you could get me to believe in Jesus would be if you paid me, and even then I'd be faking it

      August 11, 2011 at 12:28 am |
  5. a person of the Name

    @ terry: um, no. Married man here. I just think that's its wroung to gorify any man to the postion of power between me and God. I'm glad I have my relationship with Jesus.

    August 10, 2011 at 11:41 pm |
    • Spiffy

      So you talk to a dead man.

      August 11, 2011 at 12:42 am |
  6. Bucky Ball

    How VERY odd.
    Just goes to show, the Romans don't really believe what they say about transubstantiation or they would be doing something else about someone else's "blood".

    August 10, 2011 at 7:40 pm |
    • gerald

      Huh? Clearly you don't know what you are talking about.

      August 10, 2011 at 8:29 pm |
    • Bucky Ball

      Look, if you guys REALLY believed you had the blood of JC in your tabernacle, you wouldn't be worried about this nonsence now would you.

      August 11, 2011 at 12:48 am |
    • RightTurnClyde

      oh yes .. they are converting wine and bread into cash. It works. The Greeks do it too .. very adroit. They get money for all kinds of things .. big on candles. Now get the hat he's wearing (Jesus never had a nice hat like that!!)(neither did St. Peter). Do you think Stetson could make that? [got me a hat, my hat pleased me .. tied my hat on the yonder tree.. hat goes deedle-ay-oh.]

      August 11, 2011 at 12:49 am |
    • Bucky Ball

      Actually those are interesting hats, because they are very similar to the hats the Jewish priests used to wear.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitre

      August 11, 2011 at 5:42 am |
  7. Alfred0 L

    Blasphemy.

    August 10, 2011 at 6:08 pm |
    • gerald

      How could this be blasphemy? Was it blasphemy for people to touch Paul's handkerchief and be healed or Peter's shadow?

      August 10, 2011 at 8:30 pm |
    • RightTurnClyde

      It is false doctrine ... Mark 8 .. the leaven of the Pharisee .. it is actually shamanism (mysticism). Why would touching a hem or a hankerchief be prerequisite to receiving grace? That's purely mammy yokum ..

      August 11, 2011 at 12:34 am |
    • jimtanker

      Well, since it's all BS anyways it doesnt really matter. Just a bunch of made up junk to make money and control men.

      August 11, 2011 at 5:45 am |
    • Bucky Ball @ get out of hell free, (for a small fee of course)

      @RTC
      Thinking of selling novenas and indulgences on eBay. Looks like there could be a decent demand.

      August 11, 2011 at 5:49 am |
  8. frank

    Lol at people in the 21st century worshipping a dead Pollack witch doctor's hemoglobin.

    August 10, 2011 at 6:00 pm |
  9. MM

    The pope's blood couldn't save a dead cat.

    August 10, 2011 at 5:38 pm |
    • gerald

      If you mean by save, "get to heaven" we don't believe it could. But if you mean no cures could happen well then I suppose you, if you are christian, don't think Paul's hanky could do much either.

      August 10, 2011 at 8:31 pm |
    • gerald

      By the way check out Act 19 if you don't know what I am talking about.

      August 10, 2011 at 8:31 pm |
    • ZZ

      Gerald, you don't know what you are talking about.

      August 10, 2011 at 9:50 pm |
    • gerald

      Could you elaborate a little more. Have you read Acts 19 lately?

      August 11, 2011 at 12:32 pm |
  10. KansasWrangler

    "The former pope – who became a saint in May – "

    He was beatified in May, not made a saint.

    August 10, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
  11. mo

    Wow, just what Mexico needs right now. Drug wars, immigration issues and now the popes blood???
    The Catholic church itself probably has more money than Mexico.

    It's a shame the Catholic church continues to take money from the poor across the world.

    August 10, 2011 at 5:31 pm |
  12. birdman jr

    The guy is human. Get over it.

    August 10, 2011 at 5:00 pm |
  13. Casey

    I wonder if the catholic church is profiting by doing this. Wouldn't be surprised.

    August 10, 2011 at 4:29 pm |
    • gerald

      Profiting how? First of all relics are forbidden from being sold and second of all they do not charge for displays of this nature. So no.

      August 10, 2011 at 8:32 pm |
    • ZZ

      The profit or gain from this is that with this distraction, they've drawn attention away again from the pope's efforts to hide child-molesting priests.

      August 10, 2011 at 9:51 pm |
  14. a person of the Name

    Dude seriously, there is not one on my phone..

    August 10, 2011 at 2:40 pm |
    • frank

      Learn how to use the reply button, you mongoloid spastic.

      August 10, 2011 at 6:02 pm |
  15. a person of the Name

    What I don't understand is why you would want to go see a man's blood. I understand the blood of Jesus.

    August 10, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
    • Terry

      "a person...", you should appreciate it because it's as close as you are gonna get to receiving fluid from a man.

      August 10, 2011 at 9:54 pm |
  16. a person of the Name

    Lol @ colin you mean guess.

    August 10, 2011 at 2:34 pm |
    • J.W

      OK seriously learn to use the reply button

      August 10, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
  17. Reality

    A recommended posting for all the locations of said viewing of JP's blood:----------

    Saving those who suffer from the Three B Syndrome (Bred, Born and Brainwashed in their religion)

    SAVING 2 BILLION LOST CHRISTIANS:
    THERE WERE NEVER ANY BODILY RESURRECTIONS AND THERE WILL NEVER BE ANY BODILY RESURRECTIONS I.E. NO EASTER, NO CHRISTIANITY

    SAVING 1.5 BILLION LOST MUSLIMS:
    THERE NEVER WERE AND NEVER WILL BE ANY ANGELS I.E. NO GABRIEL, NO ISLAM AND THEREFORE NO MORE KORANIC-DRIVEN ACTS OF HORROR AND TERROR

    SAVING 15.5 MILLION ORTHODOX FOLLOWERS OF JUDAISM:
    ABRAHAM AND MOSES PROBABLY NEVER EXISTED

    Added details upon request.

    August 10, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
    • WilySword

      By all means, prove to me that the resurrection of Christ didn't happen. Video footage or eyewitness accounts would do, though I suppose they're more "evidence" than "proof". What about evidence that angels don't exist? Oh, I'm sorry, you have none?

      No one can prove God's existence, since that would defeat the purpose of life, but I've yet to see anyone offer convincing evidence that he doesn't exist. Mostly just insults. I suppose that's not surprising, given American politics: "If I insult my opponents often and loudly enough, I'm right." You are no more, nor less, brainwashed than any educated, religious person, so if you want to try convincing others that your beliefs are the true ones, start with the evidence, not the insults.

      August 10, 2011 at 7:39 pm |
    • evolvedDNA

      WhySword.....we claim we have seen no evidence for god, you claim that god/jesus is real..it is up to you to provide evidence of such an assertion..thats all.you have to do. You are correct i cannot give you evidence of proof for non existence for angels or jesus......as there is no evidence to disprove .

      August 10, 2011 at 8:02 pm |
    • Reality

      Saving Christians from the Infamous Resurrection Con:

      From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."

      Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.

      To wit;

      From a major Catholic university's theology professor’s grad school white-board notes:

      "Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
      Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.

      Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.

      Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.

      The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.

      Only Luke's Gospel records it. The Assumption ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "

      "In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."
      http://eternal-word.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN.HTM

      With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:

      An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,

      p.4

      "Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."

      p.168. by Ted Peters:

      Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "

      So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, covered with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.

      August 10, 2011 at 11:16 pm |
    • Reality

      It is called the Infamous Angelic Con:

      Joe Smith had his Moroni.

      Jehovah Witnesses have their Jesus /Michael the archangel, the first angelic being created by God;

      Mohammed had his Gabriel (this "tin-kerbell" got around).

      Jesus and his family had Michael, Gabriel, and Satan, the latter being a modern day dem-on of the de-mented.

      The Abraham-Moses myths had their Angel of Death and other "no-namers" to do their dirty work or other assorted duties.

      Contemporary biblical and religious scholars have relegated these "pretty wingie thingies" to the myth pile. We should do the same to include deleting all references to them in our religious operating manuals. Doing this will eliminate the prophet/profit/prophecy status of these founders and put them where they belong as simple humans just like the rest of us.
      Some added references to "tink-erbells".

      "Latter-day Saints also believe that Michael the Archangel was Adam (the first man) when he was mortal, and Gabriel lived on the earth as Noah."

      Apparently hallu-cinations did not stop with Joe Smith.

      newadvent.org/cathen/07049c.htm

      "The belief in guardian angels can be traced throughout all antiquity; pagans, like Menander and Plutarch (cf. Euseb., "Praep. Evang.", xii), and Neo-Platonists, like Plotinus, held it. It was also the belief of the Babylonians and As-syrians, as their monuments testify, for a figure of a guardian angel now in the British Museum once decorated an As-syrian palace, and might well serve for a modern representation; while Nabopolassar, father of Nebuchadnezzar the Great, says: "He (Marduk) sent a tutelary deity (cherub) of grace to go at my side; in everything that I did, he made my work to succeed."

      Catholic monks and Dark Age theologians also did their share of hallu-cinating:

      "TUBUAS-A member of the group of angels who were removed from the ranks of officially recognized celestial hierarchy in 745 by a council in Rome under Pope Zachary. He was joined by Uriel, Adimus, Sabaoth, Simiel, and Raguel."
      And tin-ker- bells go way, way back:

      "In Zoroastrianism there are different angel like creatures. For example each person has a guardian angel called Fravashi. They patronize human being and other creatures and also manifest god’s energy. Also, the Amesha Spentas have often been regarded as angels, but they don't convey messages, but are rather emanations of Ahura Mazda ("Wise Lord", God); they appear in an abstract fashion in the religious thought of Zarathustra and then later (during the Achaemenid period of Zoroastrianism) became personalized, associated with an aspect of the divine creation (fire, plants, water...)."
      "The beginnings of the biblical belief in angels must be sought in very early folklore. The gods of the Hitti-tes and Canaanites had their supernatural messengers, and parallels to the Old Testament stories of angels are found in Near Eastern literature. "

      "The 'Magic Papyri' contain many spells to secure just such help and protection of angels. From magic traditions arose the concept of the guardian angel. "

      August 10, 2011 at 11:20 pm |
    • Reality

      The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians during the past 200 years)

      Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
      and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
      human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven??

      I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
      preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
      named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
      girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

      Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
      the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

      He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
      a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
      Jerusalem.

      Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
      many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
      and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
      Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
      grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
      and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
      called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

      Amen

      August 10, 2011 at 11:25 pm |
    • Colin

      Reality – I hope you keep making these postings. They are well worth re-stating

      August 10, 2011 at 11:49 pm |
    • gerald

      except that nonone reads them colin. Nobody has time for his dump trucks of nonsense.

      August 11, 2011 at 12:33 pm |
  18. Civiloutside

    I cannot help but think that a more inspiring spectacle for Mexican Catholics would be a visit from the actual living Pope a you know, the one who is actually in a position to affect church policies so as to help them. I guess, for me, if I were crying out to someone for help in the midst of violence and starvation, and their response was to send a vial of some dead guy's blood on a sightseeing tour... I'd suspect they were just cruelly mocking me.

    August 10, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
  19. Bracus

    I can understand the idea of "sacred" objects- the projection of emotions, feelings, memories, even desires and hopes onto objects or places. I work for a fire department and we just recently acquired a large piece of 9/11 steel from the WTC. I feel a sense of awe and humility when I look at it; I would even consider it a sacred object even though I am not a religious person. What I have a hard time wrapping my mind around is the veneration of body parts. What is it with Catholics and blood? Seems like a strange fixation to me. Would a picture not suffice?

    August 10, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
  20. Martin T

    Just another reminder of the idiot nature of religion!

    August 10, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
    • Entil'za

      Guess you would know..you are an idiot.

      August 10, 2011 at 1:32 pm |
    • Martin T

      IF I am an idiot because I recognize the total futility of religion, then idiot I am. Anyone who thinks that a man's blood is somehow significant for ANY reason other than for a transfusion or medicinal purposes, is deluded and sick. May as well cut off his penis and worship that, too... I mean, why not... it's supposed to be as virginial as the Mother Mary, right?

      August 10, 2011 at 1:38 pm |
    • GodPot

      "May as well cut off his penis and worship that, too... I mean, why not... "

      Well, I think it would be a better an alogy if they were to worship the stuff that comes out of it being sent around the world as if it was Jack & the Beanstalks magic seed...

      August 10, 2011 at 2:07 pm |
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