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August 16th, 2011
12:38 PM ET
Alabama church leaders enter immigration law frayBy the CNN Wire Staff (CNN) - The latest voice in the debate over Alabama's tough new anti-illegal immigration law - considered the most restrictive in the nation - comes not from the usual activists but from a more traditionally conservative group: church leaders. Leaders from the Episcopal, Methodist and Catholic churches of Alabama sued the state's governor, its attorney general and a district attorney this month over the law, which is to go into effect September 1. One of the plaintiffs, Episcopal Bishop Henry Parsley Jr., said Tuesday that religious leaders were worried over a provision in the law that will make transporting or harboring unauthorized immigrants a crime. "The Bible is clear that we are supposed to love the stranger and welcome the aliens," Parsley said. "And we feel that this law could make some of our ministries criminal activities." Supporters of the law say it is ludicrous to imagine that a religious leader or church member would be arrested for giving a hand to those in the country illegally. But the lawsuit states that the law is vague and does not make it clear what activities fall under the scope of the restrictions. According to the lawsuit, "churches will perpetrate crimes by knowingly providing food, clothing, shelter and transportation to those in need without first ensuring compliance with the stipulations of the anti-immigration law. Moreover, the ministry of the churches, by providing such services to known undocumented persons, is criminalized under this law." Another argument the church leaders make is that if compliance with the law means ascertaining people's immigration status, it would represent an infringement of their rights. "We feel it would interfere with our freedom of expression, of our faith, and living our faith and caring for others," Parsley said. Parsley was joined in the suit by Methodist Bishop William Willimon and two Catholic leaders, Archbishop Thomas Rodi and Bishop Robert Baker. "I'm afraid this is a phony issue," said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which supports the law. "The opponents of enforcing immigration law and supporters of amnesty for illegal immigrants are using this as an emotional issue, raising this phony idea that a nun ladling out soup to an illegal alien is going to be wrestled to the ground by a SWAT team," he said. No one, including the plaintiffs, believes that a priest or nun would be arrested for carrying out their religious duties, he said. Human smugglers are the target of the provisions on transporting and harboring unauthorized immigrants, not the clergy, Krikorian said. Citing the Bible to argue against the law "is a pernicious use of scripture," he said. Indeed, the lawsuit cites scripture to make its point. "If enforced, the law will place Alabama church members in the untenable position of verifying individuals' immigration documentation before being able to follow God's word to 'love thy neighbor as thyself,' " the lawsuit states. |
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New York Law School's legal reporting blog, Legal as She is Spoke, recently published a story based on this article:
http://www.lasisblog.com/2011/09/19/immigrants-and-christian-charity-unwelcome-in-alabama/
Check it out!
Separation of church and state.
It amazes me how controversial this is, especially seeing how Hoover and two other presidents have already ousted millions of immigrants. They break laws, take jobs, and decrease the quality of American life. They should be removed. Period
These leaders of the church are a digrace to beleivers of God. The catholic churches are also the ones who support gay marriage when God CLEARLY speaks out against it. Yes God wants us to treat others with repsect and love. Welcome the aliens ? Where is that found ? Even if the Bible says that, God also wants us to follow the laws of man, whether we like them or not. We can welcome the legal alien. We can help the aliens of other countries by supporting them in war or sending money or food releif, etc, etc.
Just as Alabamians should not turn their state over to illegal immigrants, members of Alabama's churches should not turn their church over to them. If your pastor is one who encourages and supports illegal activities, STAND UP AND TAKE YOUR CHURCH BACK. Fire the pastor, or withhold your financial support; just take a stand and do whatever it takes to have your church reflect YOUR values and those of your church community. Pastors are hired and serve as the pleasure of the church. They are not God with superior knowledge that thwarts the will of the people of this state.
Thanks to HB 56, the State of Alabama can now take over the undesirable job of policing illegal immigration, a job the federal government won't do. At the same time, thanks to HB 56, illegal people in Alabama can not take over low paying undesirable jobs that legal people don't want to do. It all makes perfect American Jesus sense.
http://www.whatwouldamericanjesusdo.com
How many migrants does it take to remit $21 billion a year
back to Mexico?
14,000,000 illegals sending home $1,500 a year
10,000,000 illegals sending home $2,100 a year
5,000,000 illegals sending home $4,200 a year
Did they undercount how many Illegals here?
"Illegal alien households are estimated to use $2,700 a year more
in services than they pay in taxes, creating a total fiscal
burden of nearly $10.4 billion on the federal budget in 2002."
"A May 28, 2004 study by Bendixen & Associates found that legal
and illegal immigrants send a total of $30 billion to their home
countries on an annual basis. Mexico receives $13.3 billion a year.
The largest amount in remittances ($9.6 billion) is sent from
California, followed by New York ($3.6 billion), Texas
($3.2 billion) and Florida ($2.5 billion). Of those surveyed by
the study, 24% were Latin American-born U.S. citizens, 39% were
legal residents, and 32% were illegal aliens. Sixty-one per cent
of those surveyed send remittances overseas at least once a month.
A typical remittance is between $150 and $250."
From p. 8:
If we would cut our own grass, do our own landscaping, pick our own vegetables/fruit, cook our own food, clean our own laundary, care for own kids and clean our homes and churches/temples ourselves, there would be no need for Mexican, Haitian, Irish, Italian and/or Asian "slaves" and therefore there would be no illegal immigration.
Faith
The Christian Church does the most compassionate things for all humanity. Everywhere throughout the history. Mankind learned to value every human life from the Christian Church, no other.
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TAX THE CHURCHES! This lawsuit is just a ploy to once again exempt religion from the law!
"I am a Medical Social Worker at a hospital in S Texas and I can state
that in my 12 years here tens of thousands of illegal alien women have
come through here in labor and deliver the child. mom is very happy and
asks about food stamps, WIC, Section 8 Housing, and TANIFF. Much to my
disgust I have to link her up and she gets the next housing unit due to
being a single parent with newborn, wheres the Father? this knocks anyone else on the list
down and these would be Americans who are old, disabled and so on who
may be on the list for years. The childs Social Security number is used
by mom and that in itself is a crime. mom gets on behalf of the now
citizen child roughly $700 in welfare, not including the free to maybe
$20.00 a month arpartment or house. The hospital bill of course goes
unpaid by the illegal alien, Texas taxpayers get to pick that tab up.
As a licensed professional I am obligated to report crimes so I report
everything to Immigration Services who rarely have done anything.
Last year alone this cost our hospitals and Texas taxpayers just under
$221,452,119.09 according to our accounting/billing department
statements and that is just for labor and delivery and does not
include other hospital services."
The Supreme Court heard the arguement over 100 years ago regarding
borthright citizenship and ruled it is correct if the parent is
legally employed and residing in the country, otherwise the child
born is not a citizen. An illegal alien is nneither employed nor
residing here legally so there should be no birthright citizenship
for their Jackpot/Anchor Babies.
@Faith
looks like you have been blinded by your faith, time to open your eyes dear..
Americans are brain-less barbarians if they did not have the Christian churches. Look at your own nation now. De-christianized Americans have no honor, no morals, or no manners. Just greed and lust. Wake up. You church-bashers are plain villains. Know yourself.
Aiding and abeting Inhumanity is worse.
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Aiding and abetting law-breakers IS criminal.
The Christian Church does the most compassionate things for all humanity. Everywhere throughout the history. Mankind learned to value every human life from the Christian Church, no other.
What sort of historical timeline are you talking about here? Mankind, aka Ho-mo sapiens, have been kicking around on this planet for 200,000 years. Are you saying we didn't know the value of human life for 198,000 years? Ohhhh the humanity!! Those dam-ned dirty apes!!!
Are you referring to the witch-hunt in 13th century or the crusades in 15th century or the persecutions throughout church history ? Anyways, I concur pretty good cleanup there..
Crusades, Inquisitions, pogroms, the Holocaust. Check your church history
The contribution and rescue works done by the Christian Church world-wide for 2,000 years is simply overwhelming. The Church fed, healed and educated the most of the human population on Planet Earth. Catholics in wrong stages killed far more number of true Christians who tried to read the Bible. Witches and cults were too few comparing to the number of Christians killed by the wrong Catholics. Nazis and atheists who did a billion massacre last century were all taken down by the Christians and Christian Americans.
Shocking! Law beats bible when it comes to illegal immigrants? How convenient.
Everything else – establishment clause, creationism in schools, gay marriage, and so on – bible beats law! Right?
Must be nice to be a flip-flopping jesus fish. It's so easy to identify the personal convictions and feelings a religious person holds when they start quoting (in this case) jesus or the bible.
Why don't you tell us how you really feel without your imaginary source of authority behind you to support your hypocrisy?