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August 19th, 2011
01:43 PM ET

Does God support mountaintop removal mining?

Editor's note: Soledad O'Brien's documentary, "Battle for Blair Mountain: Working in America" airs at 8 p.m. ET Saturday, August 20.

Art Kirkendoll, a former West Virginia county commissioner, says that God clearly supports mountaintop removal mining, which is vigorously opposed by environmentalists. Check out the clip.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Content Partner • Environment • God

soundoff (136 Responses)
  1. JamesWinter

    I seriously doubt God supports mountaintop removal mining. It's a shame someone said that.

    August 21, 2011 at 7:50 pm |
  2. Faith

    Earthlings should worry over the fate of unwanted unborn humans, starving human population and today's massive number of human slaves and work to rescue, feed and liberate them. Though we need to work to preserve the environment the best we can, it's also kind of too late. The refusal to save the most defenseless humans by the fellow more-powerful humans actually brings down the planet. Simple logic and math.

    August 20, 2011 at 11:04 am |
    • Beth

      Earthlings? Really? Did you spend too much of your upbringing watching low-budget sci-fi movies?

      August 20, 2011 at 11:48 am |
    • HotAirAce

      Please, Faith, wisest person here, show us the logic and especially the math. I hope your math is better than your book of tribal bullishit's value for pi. Personally, I don't think you can get the right answer for 1 + 1, except by random chance.

      August 20, 2011 at 12:00 pm |
    • @HotAirAce

      You go to jail for life if you commit murder whether your town is flooded or not. Can't you get it?

      August 20, 2011 at 12:23 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Sorry, but the above collection of words (I hesitate to call it a sentence) does not compute – I do not get it. Please educate me.

      August 20, 2011 at 1:24 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Oh, brother. More manure from Addled.

      Reading your posts only serves to reinforce my belief that you are complete nut-job who is using a computer in the mental hospital to which you've been involuntarily committed.

      August 20, 2011 at 4:24 pm |
    • Naomi

      Americans got a lot of mental problems by denying their guilt before God. Honesty is the best policy for health.

      August 21, 2011 at 2:55 am |
  3. The Beagle

    I have five good answers to Mr. Kirkendoll's final question here: http://pathofthebeagle.com/2011/08/20/faith-to-mine-mountains/

    August 20, 2011 at 10:31 am |
  4. AGuest9

    I don't know. Let's ask. "Oh, great Flying Spaghetti Monster, do you approve?"

    He hasn't answered yet. I must be busy ridding the Third World of meatballs.

    August 20, 2011 at 10:28 am |
    • HotAirAce

      In the tradition of "believer logic" and silence from your god, you may (must?) assume they do not disagree.

      August 20, 2011 at 12:03 pm |
    • jimtanker

      R'amen!

      August 22, 2011 at 12:24 pm |
  5. Colin

    Ever heard a politician say "God is against my plan, but let's do it anyway"?

    August 20, 2011 at 10:02 am |
    • The Lambly Winged Lion of The Gods Does Roar

      What else is knew of; to know that is new?

      August 20, 2011 at 10:20 am |
    • Colin

      "It's English Jim, but not as we know it."

      August 20, 2011 at 11:06 am |
    • Mr. Scott

      We can't take much more of it, Captain!

      August 20, 2011 at 11:52 am |
    • Mr. Chekhov

      Bolsheviks!

      August 20, 2011 at 4:25 pm |
  6. Faith

    It's atheists that are destroying Planet Earth by shedding innocent blood. Genesis 4-6.

    August 20, 2011 at 8:20 am |
    • AGuest9

      I guess according to you, Genesis 4-6 says everything you want to say? I've seen you post it with several other quotes.

      August 20, 2011 at 10:14 am |
    • Faith is a dumbbell

      Who can't get laid.

      August 20, 2011 at 4:26 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Faith ...was Phil Collins in that version of Genesis?

      August 20, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
    • Johnny Rotten

      At least Phil Collins actually exists.

      August 20, 2011 at 8:38 pm |
    • SecularTruther

      Sure It's atheists that are destroying the environment with our non belief in literature that is extremely far fetched and is historically inaccurate. It has nothing to do with large corporations polluting the environment or that people all over the world are becoming wealthy which means bigger vehicles, homes, etc... Abrahamic faiths know this is true because the invisible human looking extraterrestrial creator made a pack with Noah that he/she/it wouldn't flood the planet ever again. What's going to be your excuses when scientists are correct about global warming and the poles melt drastically?

      August 21, 2011 at 11:19 pm |
    • Free

      Faith
      The closest that Genesis 4-6 says is that humans grew evil and corrupt. Anyone could be evil and corrupt, even believers. It doesn't mention atheists specifically at all.

      August 22, 2011 at 12:20 am |
    • AGuest9

      Let's see. What does Genesis 4-6. REALLY say?

      In Chapter 4, Adam and Eve have two sons, Cain and Abel Cain kills Abel, and is banished from the Garden, and moves east of Eden to Nod, where he marries If Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel are the first people, where does a wife appear from?

      Cain and his wife and his son Enoch found a city, population: three. Must have been a VERY small city.

      Chapter 5 discusses how it took Adam that long to have relations again with Eve and to have Seth (at the age of 130????).
      Then we have the nonsense of Methuselah living to be 969.

      The beginning of Chapter 6 discusses how the "sons of heaven" (mythological creatures called Nephilim) took as many human women for wives as they wished. Man was becoming so evil that Yahweh had to destroy his beloved creatures that he'd made in his image and likeness, and chose one man and his family to survive, of all the people of the Earth.

      Genesis 4-6 says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about atheists.

      August 22, 2011 at 10:13 pm |
  7. Reality

    Putting things in proper perspective:

    The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated based on the studies of historians and theologians during the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven????

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen

    August 20, 2011 at 7:09 am |
    • The Lambly Winged Lion of The Gods Does Roar

      @ Reality,,,, Morning 2 U,,,,, Your Apostolic creedenced apostacy is weak in truth and strong in secularistic denegration unbecoming those who know better.

      August 20, 2011 at 8:00 am |
    • Reality

      Some references used for the Apostles Creed update:

      1. Historical Jesus Theories, earlychristianwritings.com/theories.htm – the names of many of the contemporary historical Jesus scholars and the ti-tles of their over 100 books on the subject.

      2. Early Christian Writings, earlychristianwritings.com/
      – a list of early Christian doc-uments to include the year of publication–

      3. Historical Jesus Studies, faithfutures.org/HJstudies.html,
      – "an extensive and constantly expanding literature on historical research into the person and cultural context of Jesus of Nazareth"

      4. Jesus Database, faithfutures.org/JDB/intro.html–"The JESUS DATABASE is an online annotated inventory of the traditions concerning the life and teachings of Jesus that have survived from the first three centuries of the Common Era. It includes both canonical and extra-canonical materials, and is not limited to the traditions found within the Christian New Testament."

      5. Josephus on Jesus mtio.com/articles/bissar24.htm

      6. The Jesus Seminar, mystae.com/restricted/reflections/messiah/seminar.html#Criteria

      7. Writing the New Testament- mystae.com/restricted/reflections/messiah/testament.html

      8. Health and Healing in the Land of Israel By Joe Zias
      joezias.com/HealthHealingLandIsrael.htm

      9. Economics in First Century Palestine, K.C. Hanson and D. E. Oakman, Palestine in the Time of Jesus, Fortress Press, 1998.

      10. The Gnostic Jesus
      (Part One in a Two-Part Series on Ancient and Modern Gnosticism)
      by Douglas Groothuis: equip.org/free/DG040-1.htm

      August 20, 2011 at 11:34 am |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Lamb of god whatever. just a question.. when you go into a restaurant and order food.. do you get what you ordered? If not I think I can help...

      August 21, 2011 at 1:09 am |
  8. Andy

    Only in the US (and perhaps Iran) would somebody make a such stupid, religion-obsessed comment as this.

    August 20, 2011 at 2:17 am |
    • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

      Andy, ufortunaely there are always people who can find Biblical (Koranic, Vedic, Sutra) justificaiton for whatever they want. This guy reminds me of James Watt, who was convinced we needed to finish raping the environment before the Rapture took place. His disciple, Gayle Norton, had the exact same philosophy.

      August 20, 2011 at 1:12 pm |
  9. Bo

    ===========@LinCA=================== Thanks for asking and your concern, LinCA, Sorry, I only have a cell phone , and I don't have a reply 'button'. Sure wish I did, because then I could follow the threads, and make sooner replys..

    August 20, 2011 at 1:44 am |
    • LinCA

      @Bo,

      Thanks for the post. That explains a lot. I've tried accessing this site from a mobile device and I feel your pain. My apologies for jumping to an unfounded conclusion..

      August 20, 2011 at 1:53 am |
  10. Faith

    Abortion and ho-mo-se-xual perversions are the most detrinmental and destructive to the environment. Not this.

    August 20, 2011 at 1:08 am |
    • Peace2All

      " Abortion and ho-mo-se-xual perversions are the most detrinmental and destructive to the (*environment*). Not this. "

      Causing "global warming" is it...?

      Peace...

      August 20, 2011 at 1:11 am |
    • Faith

      Yes, and it also causes nuclear wars as well. Probably.

      August 20, 2011 at 1:13 am |
    • Peace2All

      @Faith

      " Yes, and it also causes (*nuclear wars*) as well. -Probably-. "

      Umm... Faith, please do tell how these behaviors 'Probably' cause 'nuclear wars'...?

      Peace...

      August 20, 2011 at 1:18 am |
    • Faith

      It's man's natural taking of the courses according to his inclinations and also a due divine judgment. Read Revelation.

      August 20, 2011 at 1:22 am |
    • Peace2All

      @Faith

      O.K... then, good talking with you -Faith.

      Thank you as always for those nuggets of wisdom.

      Peace...

      August 20, 2011 at 1:27 am |
    • Robert Oppenheimer

      Revelation does not say anything about thermonuclear explosions, just the far-more-probably Jesus with a sharp double-edged sword coming out of his mouth and large locusts with body armor and human faces.

      August 20, 2011 at 2:05 am |
    • Faith

      Robert, read the whole chpter 22. It says murderers and perverts get destroyed thoroughly.

      August 20, 2011 at 8:15 am |
    • Faith is a dumbbell

      Who can't figure out how to spell "detrimental". That's ironic, considering that "mental" is in there....

      August 20, 2011 at 4:28 pm |
    • Free

      Faith
      Just how many nuclear wars do you think we have had?

      August 22, 2011 at 12:31 am |
  11. Joe

    Yes and god also approves of slavery and the stoning to death of insolent children! Says so in the Old Testament!

    August 19, 2011 at 11:00 pm |
    • Faith

      The OT slavery gave better care to workers than the present American companies(and anything is better than starvation) and those children are grown gang members who put the nation in danger. Read the whole text correctly. Americans have only a few hundred-year history and very stupid to understand the human society as a whole.

      August 20, 2011 at 1:12 am |
    • Harry Hippobottomus

      Gotta love our Justina/Frederica/FairGarden/Adelina/Faith. She's the best argument for secular society there is!

      Sorry I forgot all your other wacky names, my dear schiziod Faith.

      August 20, 2011 at 1:41 am |
    • LinCA

      @Harry Hippobottomus

      Here are a few:
      True Friend, Justina, Frederica, Friend, Adeline, Christian Adeline, Adelina, FairGarden, Odessa, Zelda and WonderSpring

      August 20, 2011 at 1:46 am |
    • Harry Hippobottomus

      WonderSpring?!?! Really? I must have missed that gem.

      She must find it hard to think up new names. Let's help her. Here are a few suggestions:

      ThunderChicken

      AdultDepends

      JesusBorg

      Lobotomina

      AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      August 20, 2011 at 1:57 am |
    • Faith

      I could have listed more beautiful names and phrases but I thought you guys don't deserve my creativity. You guys are too filthy and mean. I'm going to use my creativity somewhere else.

      August 20, 2011 at 8:17 am |
    • Harry Hippobottomus

      Your "creativity" belongs somewhere else. Somewhere with straight-jackets, padded cells and heavy sedation.

      August 20, 2011 at 10:55 am |
    • Free

      Faith
      "When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-2)

      Ah, how many American companies do you know who literally beat their workers to death?

      August 22, 2011 at 12:36 am |
  12. The Lambly Winged Lion of The Gods Does Roar

    UncleM posted on Friday, August 19, 2011 at 8:08 pm, "God doesn't exist, but unfortunately ignorant christians do. In the US this religion = greed, materialism, ignorance of science, and destruction of the environment."

    I guess those "cookie jar politicians" aren't of the greedy sects,,,,,,, I do though admit that greed encrusted secularisticism is like a viral disease that encompasses all variations of socialisms be they religiocisms or capitalisms or even of the simplistic joeyisms,,,,,,,what next,,,,, kids in the mix, like the pint-sized preacherville dichotomies? 🙁

    August 19, 2011 at 10:05 pm |
  13. John Richardson

    So why did god put all these natural resource underground in the first place?

    August 19, 2011 at 8:10 pm |
    • Martin T

      See, what happened was they were on the top of the sand pile until Baby Jesus buried them in the ground. I used to bury some of my dad's tools in the back yard, I guess it was the same way with Baby Jesus.

      August 19, 2011 at 9:20 pm |
  14. prophet

    It seems to me that its the atheiests who begin the insults and do the insults on these articles so doesn't this show what type of people they are and really they should repent and turn to God and we pray for them and their lack of understanding.

    August 19, 2011 at 6:59 pm |
    • UncleM

      God doesn't exist, but unfortunately ignorant christians do. In the US this religion = greed, materialism, ignorance of science, and destruction of the environment.

      August 19, 2011 at 8:08 pm |
    • John Richardson

      Prophet. Are you a prophet or a whiner wounded by insults? Just wondering! Anyway, you're forgetting step one. First, some religious people says hilariously stupid thing A. Then non-believers point out how hilariously stupid A is. Then the religious person blubbers like a three year old about being persecuted, and perhaps throws in a bit of impotent raging about last days, judgment, hellfire, blah, blah, blah. Predictable, yes, but still a lot of fun!

      August 19, 2011 at 8:21 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Prophet.. We are the same as you except we do not believe in a god...all humans have the same character flaws from the pope to you and me...there is no god..you may think that you are better for believing in one but I cannot help you with that ego trip.

      August 20, 2011 at 12:21 am |
  15. Bible Bob, Knight of Infallibilibabbity

    God loves Christians who permanently destroy his creations so that they can have a temporary profit! That's why he made the mountains in the first place! Greed in God's name is good!

    August 19, 2011 at 5:52 pm |
    • The Lambly Winged Lion of The Gods Does Roar

      uuuhhhhhh, Just who really owns the "mineral rights" to do mountaintop excrementations,,,,,,,,,,,,christians<<<<??????? Dope on a rope isn't just for kiddies anymore,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

      August 19, 2011 at 10:13 pm |
  16. prophet

    someone wrote on here that catholism was mispelt and that is an illness to not be able to spell, well they are right and i hope that he will help the many dyslexics out there as he now accepts that there is a God.

    August 19, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
    • The Lambly Winged Lion of The Gods Does Roar

      That's "Catholicism" not what you did type, catholism,,,,,,,,,, too(2) letters more they are I and C u c?

      August 19, 2011 at 10:16 pm |
  17. barberie

    How do people like this gain positions of influence? This person probably doesn't accept the scientific facts of why the coal is where it is. Perhaps this gentleman should consider that God also gave us the power to think and innovate solutions so as to not need to rely on a primitive energy source like coal.

    August 19, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
  18. prophet

    your so right about the christians but isn't bob very misled and uneducated

    August 19, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
    • LinCA

      @prophet

      Are you by any chance related to Bo or a person of the Name? All three of you appear to have a hard time figuring out how to use the "Reply" feature.

      August 19, 2011 at 10:20 pm |
  19. prophet

    but i don't talk about religion but you all do.

    August 19, 2011 at 5:44 pm |
  20. bob

    This guy is dumb as a lump of coal.

    August 19, 2011 at 5:40 pm |
    • Mynd you, møøse bites Kan be pretty nasti

      That is a terrible insult, bob! You owe coal an apology!

      August 19, 2011 at 9:21 pm |
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