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Faith and church still helping lead tornado response in Joplin
The Joplin Family Worship Center has collected more than $5 million in donations from across the country.
August 19th, 2011
03:28 PM ET

Faith and church still helping lead tornado response in Joplin

By Ninette Sosa, CNN

Joplin, Missouri (CNN) - On May 22, this blue-collar town on the edge of the Ozark Mountains was dealt the most deadly tornado since modern record-keeping on twisters began in 1950. The tornado killed 150 and injured more than 1,000.

After the disaster, the parking lot at the Joplin Family Worship Center became a donation center geared toward helping tornado victims.

The church has more than 7,000 volunteers who have served thousands of people with everything from food, to clothing to appliances. Tractor-trailers with supplies totaling more than $5-million have dropped off donations from around the country.

"They're able to shop for clothing themselves, it’s all free,” says Charity Bethke, a Joplin Family Worship Center. “If they need furniture or appliances they can go to our tents outside to get those bigger items.”

Bethke considers herself blessed for many reasons: not only does she have a job where she feels fulfilled by helping people - her home was unscathed by the tornado.

“Our side of town is picture perfect, it's beautiful,” she said. “But when you drive through the affected area it's literally like a big scar across our city.”

"There's no logical explanation why we're alive," said Patsy Harbottle, a volunteer at the Joplin Family Worship Center.

During the tornado, Harbottle’s house blew up around her while she and her husband were huddled in a closet. At one point she was lifted off the ground.

"As odd as this sounds, when I was floating I became relaxed and peaceful and I know that was the peace of God," she said.

Harbottle and her husband survived with only minor injuries and today Harbottle is helping others while also rebuilding her own life.

And while Joplin still has a lot of rebuilding to do, Bethke said that she and her husband have noticed new signs of life in the hardest hit area. Trees that had been stripped of their bark by the tornado are now blooming. “There’s green life coming from bare trees,” she said.

Patsy Harbottle shared her story in this podcast from CNN Radio.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Missouri

soundoff (114 Responses)
  1. Muneef

    quote;
    David Cameron: Riots a Moral "Wake-Up Call"
    Aug 17, 2011 : Office of the Prime Minister.

    "We have been too unwilling for too long to talk about what is right and what is wrong." -David Cameron

    There were different things going on in different parts of the country, these riots were not about government cuts: they were directed at high street stores, not Parliament. And these riots were not about poverty: that insults the millions of people who, whatever the hardship, would never dream of making others suffer like this.

    No, this was about behavior:
    …people showing indifference to right and wrong
    …people with a twisted moral code
    …people with a complete absence of self-restraint

    Now I know as soon as I use words like 'behavior' and 'moral' people will say; 'what gives politicians the right to lecture us?' But politicians shying away from speaking the truth about behavior, about morality—this has actually helped to cause the social problems we see around us. We have been too unwilling for too long to talk about what is right and what is wrong.
    Unqute:
    http://www.breakingchristiannews.com/articles/display_art.html?ID=9220

    August 20, 2011 at 9:48 pm |
    • Muneef

      David Cameron: Riots a Moral "Wake-Up Call"
      Aug 17, 2011 : Office of the Prime Minister.
      The Full Story;

      http://m.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2011/08/15/cameron-fight-back-speech-in-full

      Everywhere I’ve been this past week, in Salford, Manchester, Birmingham, Croydon, people of every background, colour and religion have shared the same moral outrage and hurt for our country.
      Because this is Britain.
      This is a great country of good people.
      Those thugs we saw last week do not represent us, nor do they represent our young people – and they will not drag us down.

      http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/pms-speech-on-the-fightback-after-the-riots/

      August 20, 2011 at 10:22 pm |
  2. HeavenSent

    Our loving, personally involved god sent us these tornados plus tsunamis, hurricanes, earthquakes, and cancers and other diseases too numerous to mention that attack innocents and sinners alike. Let's thank god for these fine gifts and all the horrid suffering that they cause.

    Amen.

    August 20, 2011 at 6:51 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Wow, which denomination of Christianity do you belong too.

      I mean you are really embracing that "In the Hands of an Angry God" outlook on God.

      August 20, 2011 at 7:18 pm |
    • Naomi

      @Fake HeavenSent, men like yourself caused all the natural disasters by your sins and blame God for your wrong doings. Mankind did not yet get what it deserves, but the planet is asking God for justice against mankind.

      August 21, 2011 at 2:51 am |
    • myklds

      What a DESPERATE move for an atheist to use someone else's handle with the purpose either to malign or ridicule the person originally owns it.

      How desperate, yet, how TYPICAL.

      August 21, 2011 at 9:21 am |
    • jimtanker

      Nobody OWNS a handle on here tardboy. If you dont like it then stop coming on here. I find him hilarious.

      August 21, 2011 at 12:26 pm |
    • Free

      Naomi
      So, you're still arguing that God is causing natural disasters as a punishment to the wicked? Why, then, does He seem to be mostly targeting the Bible Belt with these tornados, leaving more liberal areas of the country relatively untouched? Doesn't it make you wonder who He is mostly upset by?

      August 22, 2011 at 12:05 am |
    • Anti Christian Taliban Schizophrenics

      Naomi

      @Fake HeavenSent, men like yourself caused all the natural disasters by your sins and blame God for your wrong doings. Mankind did not yet get what it deserves, but the planet is asking God for justice against mankind.

      ----–
      You have an interesing view on magical things. The christians who die because of other's sins must not be in god's favor. I guess god showed the children who the boss was? Keep enjoying your delusional life lol.
      .
      Schizophrenia is a mental disorder that makes it difficult to tell the difference between real and unreal experiences, to think logically, to have normal emotional responses, and to behave normally in social situations.
      As the illness continues, psychotic symptoms develop:
      • False beliefs or thoughts that are not based in reality (delusions)
      • Hearing, seeing, or feeling things that are not there (hallucinations)

      August 22, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
    • Anti Christian Taliban Schizophrenics

      I find it interesting that heavensent's god takes pleasure in crushing little children and having their flesh torn from their bodies??? Also that our sin is what controls the weather system...lol

      August 22, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
    • jimtanker

      I'm 90% monkey and 100% dolt.

      August 24, 2011 at 4:38 am |
    • Peace2All

      @myklds

      Hey -mykids...

      You Said: " What a DESPERATE move for an (atheist) to use someone else's handle with the purpose either to malign or ridicule the person originally owns it. How desperate, yet, how TYPICAL. "

      On the one hand, yes... I agree with you in that it is immature and a lack of class to steal someone else's handle. I also agree when 'monikers' have been hijacked that they are usually used to ridicule the person or malign them in some way.

      However, with that said, the point where I take issue with you on here is when you use the word "atheist" and then later on..."how TYPICAL."

      My point being is... you seem to be 'inferring' that it is the 'atheists' that hijack the monikers (how typical), when in fact, I quite often find the theists doing it as well.

      There is no 'typical' about it either way.

      Regards,

      Peace...

      August 24, 2011 at 4:51 am |
  3. Anon

    Many are still equipped with godgoggles and blind spots.

    August 20, 2011 at 10:55 am |
    • Harry Hippobottomus

      Godgoggles cause the entire real world to be a blind spot. When you cannot see anything for what it is, you use your imagination to compensate, and soon you are loved by an imaginary friend who helps you (unless something bad happens, which is your fault) and will send you to magical imaginary heaven.

      August 20, 2011 at 11:12 am |
  4. Faith

    The Christian Church – the light of the world and salt of the earth. Eternally blessed. The world gets rescued through her most excellent goodness and compassion. Planet Earth is a hopeless place without her presence.

    August 20, 2011 at 1:05 am |
    • Melvin Purvis

      What perfect proof that religion is the delusional reinterpretation of reality.

      August 20, 2011 at 1:43 am |
    • Faith

      Atheists do nothing to help; they are only good at destroying, slandering and polluting. Christians always help everyone everywhere for all time.

      August 20, 2011 at 11:07 am |
    • Martin T

      Faith, your definition of an Atheist is WRONG, all wrong. I am an atheist and I donate a great deal of my time to help the poor, I have traveled to Africa on a number of occasions with Doctors without borders and provided security to those who give aid to the helpless in Africa. I have traveled to a number of countries and done similar work, providing security for aid workers, helping to distribute aid, and all for little or NO pay.

      Further, I know of many other atheists who are loving, devoted, and caring individuals. Your hatred of people you do not know is NOT very Christian of you, so much so that I doubt you are a Christian at all.

      August 20, 2011 at 12:52 pm |
    • Free

      Anybody ever tell you that too much salt is bad for you? Works for religion too! 😉

      August 20, 2011 at 4:43 pm |
    • Naomi

      @Martin, you learned charity from Christians and what you mostly did was sight-seeing. No, atheists want to reduce the human population. You don't really care. @Free, without salt, you can't eat anything.

      August 21, 2011 at 2:47 am |
    • Free

      Naomi
      "without salt, you can't eat anything."
      I'm not sure what you mean by that, but I clearly said that it was too much salt that was a problem with most people, just as too much religion seems to be for some people.

      August 21, 2011 at 2:53 pm |
  5. John Richardson

    Well, when you look for "logical" explanation for why one particular random event occurred, you can bet you won't find one!

    August 19, 2011 at 8:09 pm |
    • AGuest9

      That's why its called chaos theory. Cause and effect aren't readily apparent.

      August 19, 2011 at 9:23 pm |
    • AGuest9

      A single, random event in a stochastic process is nearly impossible to associate with any other variable.

      August 19, 2011 at 9:38 pm |
    • The Lame Wigged-out Lying of the God-Babblers Does Bore

      Of course there is a logical explanation! Jeebus done it! Says so in the Babble! That Babble is absalootly infallibilibabbitable. So Jeebus done it.

      August 19, 2011 at 9:50 pm |
    • Muneef

      Hoping you are talking about chain of events? Well would say;
      Earth is our lungs that has became a dark as a smokers lungs and those natural disastors are the coughing of those lungs,which takes a long process to reversed it's effects as did those who quitted smoking..it is not that easy..otherwise one will lead to another setbacks one after another to body...

      August 19, 2011 at 10:14 pm |
    • The Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog

      You need to slack off on the lysergic, Muneef. The hallucinations are getting the better of you!

      August 19, 2011 at 10:25 pm |
    • John Richardson

      Muneef, there have been natural disasters since long before there were humans.

      August 20, 2011 at 3:23 am |
    • Muneef

      JR.
      May be more these times.

      August 20, 2011 at 11:32 am |
    • Free

      John Richardson
      There were tornados here since way before Columbus, and the Native Americans probably thought their gods or the spirits were responsible for them too. Of course, the missionaries thought such beliefs were 'primitive.'

      August 20, 2011 at 11:52 am |
    • Free

      Muneef
      May be there are more, but it could be argued that the climate change responsible for this is caused by the lack of environmental concern that Americans got by their idea that God gave them 'dominion' over the Earth to do as they please, or the att.itude that the end is coming so soon why bother with protecting the Earth for future generations?

      August 20, 2011 at 11:56 am |
    • Peace2All

      @Free

      Hey -Free...

      You Said to @John Richardson: "There were tornados here since way before Columbus, and the Native Americans probably thought their gods or the spirits were responsible for them too. Of course, the missionaries thought such beliefs were 'primitive.' "

      I think -John most likely already is aware of that. So, what am I missing here...?

      Is there some kind of 'finer distinction' that you thought was being missed here, as this seems like a no-brainer.

      Regards,

      Peace...

      August 20, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
    • Free

      Peace2All
      John pointed out that the tornados have been around since before Christians were here to think Jesus was behind them, but I thought it was important to point out that the native religions likely saw their gods in them as well, which speaks to the innate fear that drives people to anthropomorphize natural events. Christianity, then, is really no more advanced in this than the so-called 'primitive' religions it replaced.

      August 20, 2011 at 4:53 pm |
    • John Richardson

      @Free, Peace I heard once that some Native American tribes had a myth that tornados were manifestations of the sky god's p*nis. Well, whatever. Anyway, I'm sure tornados don't just predate Christians, but predate human beings by eons. And the vulcanism of the pre-human past includes events far beyond even Krakatoa. Oh, and the moon was once significantly closer and the normal tide changes everywhere put the Bay of Fundy to shame.

      August 20, 2011 at 5:12 pm |
    • *frank*

      I have heard tell by a drunken Maori elder that Hawaii was formed from the dung of a sacred frigate bird in the heavens, his flaming guano piling up to form the lovely vacation spot we enjoy today.

      August 20, 2011 at 5:30 pm |
    • *frank*

      I'm not sure he was a real Maori elder though. He looked more like an old Mexican.

      August 20, 2011 at 5:33 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @Free

      Hey -Free...

      That's where I thought you were going with it... but just wanted to make sure.

      Regards,

      Peace...

      August 20, 2011 at 5:33 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @John R.

      "Bay of Fundy" LOL... I like it !

      Peace bro...

      August 20, 2011 at 5:38 pm |
    • J.W

      The Indians thought tornados were a penis of the gods? Im not a woman but if I were I would think it would hurt to have that inside of you

      August 20, 2011 at 7:16 pm |
    • Muneef

      Free.

      Agree with you that what is happening and to cover their crimes towards nature of mother earth they claim it being normal happening with out any unnatural causes..or human interference...!!

      August 20, 2011 at 10:27 pm |
    • Free

      Muneef
      As usual, there are Christian sects that are more environmentally responsible as well, and I respect their stand in this. Some Catholics, the Seventh-Day Adventists, and very small groups of evangelicals who embrace what they call 'stewardship' of the planet come to mind, but I think there may even be others.

      Within Islam, what is the stand on protecting the planet? Are the Saudi's and other oil-rich Muslims at all concerned?

      August 20, 2011 at 11:37 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @J.W.

      Again... with the humor ! LOL...! -J.W., you are a pretty darn funny dude ! 😀

      Peace...

      August 21, 2011 at 2:21 am |
    • Muneef

      Free.
      Quran/Islam instructs us to preserve nature (water/earth/sea) from corruption (Pollution)...

      August 21, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
    • Free

      Muneef
      Oil production produces lots of pollution, wouldn't you say? Again, are the oil-producing countries within the Muslim world more concerned with following the prophet, or the profit?

      August 22, 2011 at 12:11 am |
    • Muneef

      Free.

      I wouldn't blame the oil producers but would rather blame the scientists and the industrialists that made us depend so much on oil as fuel for energy power...blaming them as well for making their produce uneconomically consumes much more fuel than that is needed to get the same power, just to increase the sales of oil lords&sheikhs while consuming earth balance...!

      August 22, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
    • Anti Christian Taliban Schizophrenics

      Free

      John Richardson
      There were tornados here since way before Columbus, and the Native Americans probably thought their gods or the spirits were responsible for them too. Of course, the missionaries thought such beliefs were 'primitive.'

      ------
      Christians, jews and muslims are still stuck in primitive thought and perception

      August 22, 2011 at 3:09 pm |
  6. Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

    Ahhahhahhhhhahahhahhhahhhaaaaaaaa!

    Oh, wait. Was this supposed to be serious?

    August 19, 2011 at 7:49 pm |
    • Tom Piper'Son

      "Ahhahhahhhhhahahhahhhahhhaaaaaaaa!"

      What happen to you son?!!!!!! Are having a seizure again?!!!!!!!!

      You got that "serious" (mental) illness while you were still inside the womb of your mother when she tried to abort you but failed.

      August 20, 2011 at 7:24 am |
    • Faith

      Christians love Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son. I'm sure she is on the top prayer request. She is deeply loved.

      August 20, 2011 at 8:12 am |
  7. Mark from Middle River

    Dear Ms Sosa. I will pray for your protection while writing for The Belief Blog. How you got a positive organized Faith and religion story past the Belief blog editors might actually qualify as a miracle.

    August 19, 2011 at 6:45 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @Mark

      LOL...! Hey, they gotta' let one through every now and again, otherwise you guys wouldn't stay and play with us ! 😀

      Peace bro...

      August 20, 2011 at 3:15 am |
    • Pest2all

      @Peace

      On the contrary, you and your fellow unbelievers are the one that should not stay here. Don't you know that this is a BELIEVE Blog?

      You should be grateful that internet is open for all to acces. Otherwise, we will call on the nearest pest control station to get rid of unwelcome guests like you.

      Pest..

      August 20, 2011 at 6:52 am |
    • Pest2all

      BELIEF* Blog

      August 20, 2011 at 6:54 am |
    • Free

      Pest2all
      A goodly number of articles here are about atheism and non-belief, you know?

      August 20, 2011 at 10:13 am |
    • Martin T

      @Pest – IF you took the time to read all the information offered at this "belief" blog, you would have noted that CNN includes Atheism in their definition of belief, even though in reality, we atheists don't actually believe in any sky spirits. I find it amazing that theists only want to converse with other theists, and they simply don't want to talk to us atheists at all. Some brothers of love you guys turn out to be. LOL

      August 20, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
    • I_get_it

      Pest,

      Rigid, unexamined 'beliefs' are known as biases (and prejudices).

      This is not called "The Christian Belief Blog". There are many of those around the web - and they even ban posters who disagree. Maybe that's what you are looking for...

      August 20, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>"On the contrary, you and your fellow unbelievers are the one that should not stay here. "

      From one believer to possibly another. If you, or better your Faith, can not stand up to a bunch of Atheist... then what confidence that it will not fail you when confronted by something truly evil?

      As persons of Faith, some of the Athiest here serve a sharping effect. If you hold, then greater will your Faith be.

      August 20, 2011 at 6:45 pm |
  8. Muneef

    --
    Actually it is us or say the industrious one's corruption to water,land,sea and skies... All that Global Warming-Nano-Nino stuff are are results from our actions and intentions on earth... GOD saves whom he might from our own self and creation destruction..
    Some even thought to reduce the animals for their gases effects or contribution to global warming? What a thought depriving us from foods for such thing rather than reducing the total dependance on fuel industry and it's related consuming industries...!? It is the industry that has contaminated the air we breath,the water we drink,the grown food that we consume and now with recent off shore developments it is extending contamination's to our sea life and sea foods,other than the chemicals disposed of illegally under earth and in the depths of seas...!?
    What is there left to contaminate? Even heavens said been contaminated by junk we left out that is related to space industries? Now after all this mess made by the so called humans it is not fair to accuse GOD for man's actions...! So it is only us who can help our selves and others to change our own made faith by bringing and imposing changes towards correcting the universal balance that we had spoiled with our greeds and ignorance or carelessness of generations to follow after us...!?

    August 19, 2011 at 6:26 pm |
  9. Anglican

    My church just finished a Habitat House in the south replacing one destroyed by same frontal system as above. Hope to do another soon. Took less than two weeks. Peace.

    August 19, 2011 at 6:16 pm |
    • I_get_it

      Anglican,

      You (and your associates) are compassionate and helpful. I am sure that your assistance in home-building is greatly appreciated by those victims of the disaster.

      August 19, 2011 at 10:44 pm |
    • John Richardson

      That's what we want to hear. The "miracle" of people actually getting off their butts and doing something constructive! Cool!

      August 20, 2011 at 3:25 am |
  10. *frank*

    ""As odd as this sounds, when I was floating I became relaxed and peaceful and I know that was the peace of God," she said."
    No, it's called being in shock, idiot...

    August 19, 2011 at 6:02 pm |
    • +Prank+

      Oh, how wiser than thou!

      August 20, 2011 at 7:28 am |
    • Dave Dawson

      "I think I would rather believe tornadoes and earthquakes and tsunamis etc. were natural occurrences and were not constructed or guided by a god,"

      Is there anywhere in the article that tells you to believe otherwise?

      August 20, 2011 at 7:36 am |
  11. David Johnson

    From the article:

    "On May 22, this blue-collar town on the edge of the Ozark Mountains was dealt the most deadly tornado since modern record-keeping on twisters began in 1950. The tornado killed 150 and injured more than 1,000.

    Harbottle and her husband survived with only minor injuries"

    Clearly Harbottle and her husband were loved more by god, than the 150 whom He killed. This leaves the families and friends of the 150, to contemplate why god did not like them. *sigh*

    Why did God love Jacob and hate Esau (Malachi 1:3; Romans 9:13)?

    I think I would rather believe tornadoes and earthquakes and tsunamis etc. were natural occurrences and were not constructed or guided by a god, I believed to be all good and all just.

    Cheers!

    August 19, 2011 at 5:51 pm |
    • Muneef

      DJ.

      With all respect I guess that man destiny is to die,some of them die at their mothers wombs,some are pulled out of their mothers wombs,some die young some die mid age and some very very old,some die healthy and some die unhealthy.! Death comes so sudden to man at least expected times...death comes in many many forms but in the end it is one "Death"...
      Those survived such situations are either that GOD given them a second chance to repent or to sin...!
      We were told that when it is you time there will be no delay or haste but in the named time but who ever takes his own life or throw them self to danger, destruction,ruin,doom..such as those martyr in couse of good or evil...No one knows his time as an individual nor as community nor as nation, but all will be coming upon us all in different forms whether as Natural Disasters or Man Made Disasters "Curroption,Criminal,Contiminations,Wars,Famines,Slavery"..
      So sad really what we heard and know about with that we did not hear or know about... This already we see in life is Hell on Earth before the other day...surely this Hell on Earth is created by mankind to mankind and not GOD to mankind because we believe that Good is from GOD but Evil is from Mankind to Mankind or our selves to our selves..!
      We pray and say GOD if ever you would take our life's then take it when we are submitting and pure from all sins... There are many words in such prayers which i do not memorize beside catching up with my Fajer prayers.  Amen 

      August 19, 2011 at 9:50 pm |
  12. Mrs. Butterworth

    God made the disaster in the first place.

    Okay, there is no god; these things just happen. Some people are smart enough to realize this. The rest look for magic answers and accept them, noo matter how ridiculoous.

    August 19, 2011 at 5:31 pm |
    • Arvn Huac

      This is just a perfect example of how people delude themselves into believing they have experienced God, when any tidbit of logic clearly proves their belief to be foolish.

      You survive a disaster of difficulty, it seems like something helped you, so there must be a God. However, that God would have had to make the disaster or problem in the first place. And why did he kill all those other people, bringing misery to their families?

      Events like Joplin actually more prove that a God does not exist, that the environment is operating according to various laws and forces, and if you are in the wrong place, you are dead. If it just misses you, it's not God; it's a coincidence and nothing more.

      August 19, 2011 at 5:47 pm |
    • Muneef

      Actually it is us or say the industrious one's corruption to water,land,sea and skies... All that Global Warming-Nano-Nino stuff are are results from our actions and intentions on earth... GOD saves whom he might from our own self and creation destruction..
      Some even thought to reduce the animals for their gases effects or contribution to global warming? What a thought depriving us from foods for such thing rather than reducing the total dependance on fuel industry and it's related consuming industries...!? It is the industry that has contaminated the air we breath,the water we drink,the grown food that we consume and now with recent off shore developments it is extending contamination's to our sea life and sea foods,other than the chemicals disposed of illegally under earth and in the depths of seas...!?
      What is there left to contaminate? Even heavens said been contaminated by junk we left out that is related to space industries? Now after all this mess made by the so called humans it is not fair to accuse GOD for man's actions...! So it is only us who can help our selves and others to change our own made faith by bringing and imposing changes towards correcting the universal balance that we had spoiled with our greeds and ignorance or carelessness of generations to follow after us...!?

      August 19, 2011 at 6:24 pm |
    • Martin T

      IF god causes these disaster events, why does he do it? What makes him chose one site over another?

      August 19, 2011 at 8:44 pm |
    • Muneef

      Martin.

      It is that fields of "positiveness or negativeness that surrounds us that attract or divert the disaster events...that of course if you believe that there are power fields surrounding human body...? They say when man is not spiritual it is found very thin field while for spiritual one's it is found to be thick...so I suppose that applies not only for individuals but as communities and cities....

      August 22, 2011 at 1:51 pm |
  13. David Johnson

    From the article:

    "The church has more than 7,000 volunteers who have served thousands of people with everything from food, to clothing to appliances. Tractor-trailers with supplies totaling more than $5-million have dropped off donations from around the country."

    And to think, the Christian god of love made all this possible! I am overwhelmed with emotion.

    kjfkjofjeiruruerue -> Me speaking in tongues.

    Cheers!

    August 19, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
  14. Muneef

    It is imperative that we help our selves beside what ever help we get from others...after all we are human mankind can only survive by helping each other rather than killing each other over land,natural resources and foods...
    Am sure if the money spent on the killing machines were invested in human development, the whole world will live in peace and prosperity for all nations.. But unfortunately the game of masters and slaves would not give up investing in the killing machines,marketing for wars and conflicts, for it's prosper, while convincing others that all are essential as a control elements to keep the world population down,minimizing compet-i-tion over water,lands,fuels and foods...!! When GOD said he will suffice us all only if we all stay on the straight path rejecting temptations of all kinds of corruptions caused by evil greeds.  

    August 19, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
    • AGuest9

      The ancient Greeks had a saying "Zeus helps those who help themselves."

      August 19, 2011 at 10:05 pm |
  15. David Johnson

    From the article:

    "There's no logical explanation why we're alive," said Patsy Harbottle, a volunteer at the Joplin Family Worship Center."

    "No logical explanation", you say? I can think of one.

    A tornado races through a trailer park, destroying everything in its path. One man and his trailer are untouched. It is a miracle!

    No it isn't. It's random chance. Rewind everything and send the tornado back through the park. This time the fellow and his trailer will be toast. Someone else may well survive.

    Miracles consist of coincidence and random chance. No god required.

    Cheers!

    August 19, 2011 at 5:16 pm |
    • Muneef

      With respect I still say you will never know what it is... But some might call such things as Forces surrounding us either as "Positive fields or Nagative fields"... Maybe if you try to learn more about this old man practices or intentions or charity work only then might you find what had him saved... There were many cases like that one of them I think was in America where a village cought fire and storm winds had all houses burnt destroyed except for a one untouched house that belonged to an a wheelchaired elderly lady...! So I say Sobhan-Allah who says that only our good works and intentions would save us in life and thereafter...

      August 19, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
    • David Johnson

      @Muneef

      In virtually every disaster, some sign of the divine is "discovered". A temple survived the earthquake that devastated the other structures in the recent Ja_panese disaster. A cross, formed by the wreckage, was found at the 9-11 site.

      People of faith, have always had a tough time with the fact that bad things happen to good people. It just doesn't seem consistent with the idea of an all loving, all just god.

      When people survive a calamity that claimed others, we call it a miracle. God saved them. This may cause little Billy, whose parents died, years of therapy. God let his Ma and Pa die.

      Cheers!

      August 19, 2011 at 6:38 pm |
    • AGuest9

      Reminds me of the Van Halen album with the picture of the home with a Jesus statue in the front yard, next to the home leveled by a tornado. It happens...

      August 19, 2011 at 10:07 pm |
    • Free

      David Johnson
      It also seems that many people 'find' faith during times of great turmoil. Which suggests that faith enters in when people are at their weakest emotionally, which also happens to be the times when people are the least rational.

      August 20, 2011 at 10:04 am |
    • David Johnson

      @Free

      You said: "It also seems that many people 'find' faith during times of great turmoil. Which suggests that faith enters in when people are at their weakest emotionally, which also happens to be the times when people are the least rational."

      Yes. I cannot blame people for reaching out to the supernatural when confronted by events, that are beyond their control.

      I was pretty much convinced there are no god(s). But, when my niece lay dying, I prayed. I made promises. I begged for an intercession. I offered to take her place. But, nothing happened. Prayer doesn't work. She died. The preacher said," This was the best day of her life." I went to the men's room and threw up.

      A sky daddy is so tempting in times of dire need. It is a shame, He does not exist.

      Cheers!

      August 20, 2011 at 4:09 pm |
    • Free

      David Johnson
      You prayed when your niece got sick because that was what you were familiar with within your culture, yes? But in another culture you may have gone looking for some good luck charm, or made a sacrifice of something valuable in as desperate an attempt as praying to swing luck your way. The principle is universal, and praying to God just so happens to be the local superst.ition is all.

      August 20, 2011 at 9:24 pm |
  16. Muneef

    Well if such as those as well contribute to helping people worldwide then it is not right to deny their efforts and contributions since they are unconditional,I hope... Unless they as well like some Religious one's who make it conditional to convert people only but not much as to assisting them...

    Another thing I believe in is that I kept in brackets ;
    Quote;
    Can Atheists Be Charitable?
    It's often said that there are no atheist charities. This stems from a common misconception that atheists are not giving and care nothing for their fellow man. The truth is that atheists have just as much empathy as anyone else. As many atheists see it,"" there's no one to help our fellow human beings except ourselves"".
    Unquote;
    Agree with that bases the word of GOD in the Quran that says ""GOD help those who help them selves" and that "GOD will not change faith of people unless they change what's within their souls".

    http://www.squidoo.com/Atheist-Charities

    August 19, 2011 at 5:03 pm |
    • Muneef

      Well if such as those as well contribute to helping people worldwide then it is not right to deny their efforts and contributions since they are unconditional,I hope... Unless they as well like some Religious one's who make it conditional to convert people only but not much as to assisting them...

      Another thing I believe in is that I kept in brackets ;
      Quote;
      Can Atheists Be Charitable?
      It's often said that there are no atheist charities. This stems from a common misconception that atheists are not giving and care nothing for their fellow man. The truth is that atheists have just as much empathy as anyone else. As many atheists see it,"" there's no one to help our fellow human beings except ourselves"".
      Unquote;
      Agree with that bases the word of GOD in the Quran that says ""GOD help those who help them selves" and that "GOD will not change faith of people unless they change what's within their souls".

      http://www.squidoo.com/Atheist-Charities

      ----

      Therefore it is imperative that we help our selves beside what ever help we get from others...after all we are human mankind can only survive by helping each other rather than killing each other over land,natural resources and foods...
      Am sure if the money spent on the killing machines were invested in human development, the whole world will live in peace and prosperity for all nations.. But unfortunately the game of masters and slaves would not give up investing in the killing machines,marketing for wars and conflicts, for it's prosper, while convincing others that all are essential as a control elements to keep the world population down,minimizing compet-i-tion over water,lands,fuels and foods...!! When GOD said he will suffice us all only if we all stay on the straight path rejecting temptations of all kinds of corruptions caused by evil greeds.       

      August 19, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
  17. Muneef

    Actually all should contribute Gvt-Religious inst-i-tutes and Individuals with cash commodities and efforts no matter what Race or Religion you are and the victims are... It is called "Humanitarian Aid" by being humans even if disputing with on Racal grounds or religiouse grounds or politicl grounds... Whether that is carried on Nationally or Internationally...

    August 19, 2011 at 4:50 pm |
    • AGuest9

      There should be no such thing as a "Gvt-Religious inst-i-tute". Separation needs to remain.

      August 19, 2011 at 10:09 pm |
  18. Reality

    Faith and church still helping lead tornado response in Joplin."

    Actually as normal in large natural disasters, it is the USA taxpayer who is leading the way in Joplin

    August 19, 2011 at 4:27 pm |
    • Realty

      "it is the USA taxpayer who is leading the way in Joplin."

      Yes exactly, apparently most (90+) of them are believers.

      At last you got it right! So Congratulations!!!! It's really true that a broken clock would give the right time at least once or twice a day.

      August 20, 2011 at 7:12 am |
    • claybigsby

      "! It's really true that a broken clock would give the right time at least once or twice a day."

      wow you are retarded...open a book once in a while other than the bible and educate yourself.

      August 22, 2011 at 2:57 pm |
  19. Reality

    "Faith and church still helping lead tornado response in Joplin."

    Actually an normal in large natural disasters, it is the USA taxpayer who is leading the way in Joplin.

    For example.

    "Two Months After the Joplin Tornado: Disaster Recovery Efforts in Missouri Continue

    Release Date: July 22, 2011
    Release Number: 1980-128

    » More Information on Missouri Severe Storms, Tornadoes, And Flooding

    COLUMBIA, Mo. - Two months after the devastating EF-5 tornado ripped through the peaceful city of Joplin, disaster recovery efforts remain in full swing. State and federal disaster a-ssistance has increased $26 million this month, totaling over $41 million for residents and businesses in the counties of Jasper and Newton.

    The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is only part of a large team that continues to bring resources to as-sist a community in its response and recovery efforts. This team includes coordinated efforts between federal, state, local, non-profit, private sector and faith-based organizations.

    "It takes many agencies, government and private, as well as many individuals, to help a community and its citizens recover from a disaster," said Federal Coordinating Officer Libby Turner. "Missourians have demonstrated from day one that they are ready to do whatever it takes to help one another not only survive the Joplin tornado but to thrive over the long run."

    As of today, 60 days after the Joplin tornado disaster, more than 690 federal and state employees from across the country are working to meet the needs of more than 10,200 Jasper and Newton disaster survivors who have registered for as-sistance. This number is expected to increase before the July 29, 2011 registration deadline. Additionally, federal and state specialists continue to provide as-sistance to local governmental enti-ties that suffered extensive damages to their infrastructure facilities.

    A critical recovery mission, the removal of debris, continues in full force through the close collaboration between local, state and federal agencies. During the 46 days of debris removal operations managed by the court engineers, nearly 1.3 million cubic yards - 68 percent - of debris has been removed from the Joplin area, at an average rate of 27,684 cubic yards per day. This number does not include debris removal by private contractors, individual property owners and volunteers. In addition, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has collected more than 95,000 items of household hazardous waste, white goods and electronic equipment from the Joplin tornado debris.

    Over the course of the week following the May 22 disaster, a multi-tude of volunteer resources, agencies and personnel sprung into action. Together with local and community officials, the city of Joplin, the state of Missouri, the Missouri Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster (VOAD), the Governor's Faith-based and Community Service Partnership for Disaster Recovery and FEMA continues to work to coordinate the as-sembly and movement of critical emergency supplies, medical aid and disaster relief.

    Volunteer efforts have included the opening and operation of two shelters managed by the American Red Cross and a Volunteer Reception Center managed by members of AmeriCorps, which has processed more than 45,000 volunteers. In just two month's time, volunteers have worked more than 301,000 hours. Disaster recovery volunteers have also included players, coaches and staff from the NFL St. Louis Rams, who helped with cleanup efforts in Joplin. The team also recorded public service announcements with FEMA to promote community preparedness and encourage survivors to apply for disaster as-sistance at 1-800-621-FEMA.

    Another community partner, the Missouri Humane Society, helped create and run a shelter that allowed survivors to identify their pets and provided accommodations for the pets whose owners had no place to keep them. To date, more than 500 pets have been reunited with their human companions, thanks to the efforts of the Joplin Humane Society and the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA). These two organizations sheltered more than 1,300 animals through June 25-26, 2011, when a two-day adopt-a-thon was held; 739 adoptions were made during the fee-waived event.

    Federal, state and local officials have also teamed up with the Independent Living Center and other disability organizations to serve as a resource for individuals with disabilities, access and other functional needs. Through focused disability integration efforts in Missouri, FEMA continues to take steps to ensure the whole community - including people with functional needs, seniors and those with low English proficiency - has the same opportunity to benefit from disaster as-sistance programs."

    August 19, 2011 at 4:27 pm |
    • Realty

      Tic Toc! Tic Toc!...(dead)lol!

      August 20, 2011 at 7:17 am |
  20. Muneef

    May GOD give peace to all those alife and lost ones.Amen

    The Mercy of GOD (Allah) in Regard to Forgiveness
    Quote;
    "O son of Adam, as long as you call upon Me and put your hope in Me, I have forgiven you for what you have done and I do not mind. O son of Adam, if your sins were to reach the clouds of the sky and then you would seek My forgiveness, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, if you were to come to Me with sins that are close to filling the earth and then you would meet Me without ascribing any partners with Me, I would certainly bring to you forgiveness close to filling it." 
    Unquote;
    Interesting to read at:
    http://quranicverse99.tripod.com/islamicways/id4.html

    August 19, 2011 at 3:55 pm |
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