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Can the Christian crusade against pornography bear fruit?
After avoiding talk about sex from the pulpit for years, pastors are now speaking out against porn.
August 21st, 2011
01:00 AM ET

Can the Christian crusade against pornography bear fruit?

By Ashley Fantz, CNN

Atlanta (CNN) - He is a good Christian, Michael is telling his two therapists. He goes to church most Sundays. He’s a devoted husband and father of two daughters.

“But when I would leave on business trips,” he says, “I knew I was going to get to be someone else.”

“Prostitutes, porn - I took anything I wanted.”

Sitting on a comfortable, worn couch, Michael glances out the window and sees a reflection of himself set against the parking lot of this suburban Atlanta office building. He fidgets, runs his fingers over his closely cropped blond hair and straightens his green tennis polo. He clears his throat.

Above his head hangs a poster covered in words describing feelings - angry, anxious, sad. On it is a big yellow cross.

Therapists Richard Blankenship and Mark Richardson wear solemn but empathetic expressions. Certified counselors and Christian ministers, they tell him they know how to listen and nod for him to continue.

“I’ve had a record of purity since March when I confessed to my wife,” says Michael, whose name has been changed by CNN.com to protect his privacy. “No porn, no masturbation.”

“Awesome,” Richardson says, leaning forward in his chair. “God knows you’re trying.”

This is Michael’s second week at “Faithful and True – Atlanta” a 16-week counseling program that, like dozens of others like it around the country, combines traditional psychotherapy with the Bible in an attempt to treat addictive behavior.

Blankenship, a devout Christian who once struggled with sexual abuse, says his own ordeal has helped him to treat and “graduate” nearly 500 Christian men and women with similar addictions in the last five years.

He says he has helped people achieve what he calls “sobriety,” which means resisting porn and lustful thoughts.

Though controversial in secular circles, much of the evangelical Christian world has been cheering this relatively new kind of therapy. Many believers, including many Christian leaders, consider it a powerful tool for fighting what they say is one of the modern church’s biggest problems: porn addiction.

A crusade is born

Not long ago, it was unheard of for a pastor to talk about sex from the pulpit.

Today, clergy are talking about porn.

Many evangelical pastors say they don’t have a choice. The Internet has made porn unavoidable; it’s everywhere. And porn, they say, leads to a lack of intimacy in marriage, threatening the biblical mandate to get and stay married.

In the past few years, Christian leaders have established online ministries to tackle the problem, hosting anti-porn podcast sermons and Web chats. The popular evangelical blog Crosswalk.com recently ran an article headlined “How many porn addicts are in your church?”

Christian publishers, meanwhile, have produced a wave of recent books on the subject, including popular titles like “Porn-Again Christian,” “Secret Sexual Sins: Understanding a Christian's Desire for Pornography” and “Eyes of Integrity: The Porn Pandemic and How It Affects You.”

Evangelical pastor Jeremy Gyorke recently came forward to talk about how porn has affected him. In July, the 32-year-old confessed his porn addiction in a sermon at Wyandotte Family Church, just outside Detroit.

“I’m part of a generation of Christians who grew up keeping your mouth shut about your personal life,” he says. “Goodness no, we didn’t talk about sex.”

“But now that we have a little say in the attitude of the church, we’re taking a different approach,” Gyorke continues. “We’re putting it all out there, saying you don’t have to keep secrets. Come forward and admit that you’ve made a mistake, and you can be healed.”

Gyorke said he confessed to his congregation after his wife caught him looking at porn and told him it made her feel inadequate. She wanted him to seek help and to be transparent as a man of God.

Gyorke ultimately decided that viewing any porn, even once or twice, is a problem for believers.

“It’s like a gateway drug,” he says. “You can’t just have a little look. If you look at porn, you’ve already given your heart and spirit away to someone who isn’t your wife.”

As he wrote his sermon on the matter, Gyorke felt tremendous anxiety. “I thought it would make or break me to them as their pastor,” he says.

But his flock reacted with empathy and support. Several congregants approached him afterward to say that they, too, felt that they’d acted against God by looking at porn.

Different interpretations

Though the words “porn” and “masturbation” don’t appear in the Bible, Gyorke believes the biblical verdict is clear. “Sexual immorality is mentioned a lot in the Bible, and that is what porn is,” he says.

He quotes the Gospel of Matthew: “But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”

“Porn is lust, and lust is a sin,” the pastor said.

Many religious scholars say that such a view reflects just one of many interpretations.

“One school of biblical study says that desire is a problem and needs to be monitored as a serious threat to salvation,” says Boston University theology professor Jennifer Wright Knust.

But Knust points to scriptural passages that appear to endorse sexual desire, including the Song of Solomon, a poem that some scholars say depicts two lovers graphically describing each other’s anatomy in an ode to unmarried sex.

“This is not new. It’s a cherry-picking of scripture used to address what’s happening right now in popular culture,” says Knust, author of the recent book “Unprotected Texts: The Bible’s Surprising Contradictions on Sex and Desire.” “The new thing is that it’s being used by so-called Christian therapists.”

Knust says the anti-porn trend in Christian therapy reflects new questions in broader society about what constitutes an appropriate relationship, about gender roles and rules, and about what marriage really means.

“People are concerned and confused, and want to know if God is speaking to us in our sexual roles,” she says. “Can we find answers in divine revelation? People have always hoped that there can be certainty in the Bible.

“There is no certainty,” she says. “It’s interpretation.”

XXX churches

A few weeks after delivering his confessional sermon, Gyorke organized a Sunday event at his church intended to help keep congregants away from pornography.

He gave out study guides with scriptural verses related to lust and showed a slick video from XXXChurch, the main Web-based group for the Christian anti-porn movement.

The video opens with a mock-pharmaceutical infomercial for a product called “Lustivin.” It raves about how wonderful the drug can make you feel in the short term but then lists some major side effects: premature relational difficulty, divorce, shallow relationships.

Craig Gross, a young pastor from California, co-founded XXXChurch.com in 2001. Its URL was meant to snag people who were surfing the Web for dirty pictures.

“Ten years ago, when I wanted to bring the church up to date, everyone was like, ‘This won’t work. People will be confused about what you’re doing,’ ” Gross says.

“It was controversial at the time, but the church is always behind the times,” he says. “We should have had a XXXChurch.com in the late 1990s if we really wanted to get ahead of this problem.”

The site was slow to catch on for its first few years, but now gets millions of clicks a day from IP addresses around the globe, Gross said.

This year, XXXChurch sponsored Porn Sunday, a national anti-porn event that included hundreds of churches across the country screening a video starring Matt Hasselbeck, who's now quarterback for the Tennessee Titans, and other Christian NFL stars.

Soundbites from the players speak to the struggle between porn and faith.

“Sex is an awesome thing that God designed,” Hasselbeck says in the video.

Jon Kitna, a Dallas Cowboys quarterback, talks about surfing the Web and getting deeper into porn sites. “[You] see this [link] and it leads you to a link to this … ” he says. “And pretty soon, I’m into a world that I never really knew existed.”

For $7 a month, XXXChurch offers porn-detection software that fires off automatic e-mail alerts to a subscriber and his or her chosen “faith buddy,” a kind of whistle-blowing system designed to keep Christians from going astray.

Achieving “sobriety”

But some Christians have gone much further in their attempts to tackle porn addictions, literally rearranging their lives.

When Jeff Colon, a self-described recovering porn addict in Kentucky, confessed his addiction to his wife, she told him to get help or find a divorce attorney.

It was the early 1990s. Christian sex addition counseling was unheard of. But Colon’s pastor - to whom he’d also confided - called other church leaders and learned of a Christian counseling retreat called Pure Life Ministries, a kind of Christian compound that includes a chapel and all-male dormitory on 44 acres in western Kentucky.

Today, Colon is the president of Pure Life, which he credits with saving his marriage.

He says the program has cured thousands of men of their porn addictions through a six- to 12-month program of one-on-one or group therapy sessions.

The live-in program costs $175 a week. Men must move to the campus and live alone, with wives having the option of talking to Pure Life counselors by phone. Most insurance plans don’t cover Pure Life - a moot concern, really, because most program participants quit their jobs to relocate.

That’s what Colon, who was working as an elevator repairman, did. “I don’t regret it for a second,” he says. “It was a hard time not because I lost my job or had to move from my family. It was a tough time because I had nearly lost my connection with God. That is what’s most important in life.”

Pure Life’s curriculum relies heavily on Paul’s Letter to the Galatians, which stresses that if one lives “by the Spirit,” he will not “gratify the desires of the flesh.”

The scripture goes on to say that those who gratify the flesh “will not inherit the kingdom of God.” Women are not allowed on campus during the initial phase of treatment.

“People who don’t follow Christ aren’t going to get what I’m saying, but it was like intense Bible study that helped me understand how selfish I am as a sinner,” Colon says. “Basically, you have time to talk to God, and for him to show you the way to sobriety. And I’ve been sober for 17 years.”

For Colon, sobriety means abstaining from looking at porn, masturbating and performing any other sex act not involving his spouse.

“You learn that lust is just a state of mind,” he says. “If you lust for someone other than your wife, what you do is replace that lust with prayer. And you have a heart change.”

Indeed, Colon says that God was central to his recovery.

“I know secular people don’t get it,” he says. “But if I had a sponsor who was just another person, a person who is fallible, telling me to stay clean, it’s just not as powerful as God telling me that.”

“Women … drowning in this addiction”

Men aren’t the only ones who have started thinking that way about porn.

According to the creator of accountability2you, a Web-based service that dumps all the pornographic material someone surfs into his or her spouse’s e-mail inbox, roughly half of his 10,000 monthly subscribers are women.

“The Christian Church has started to realize that we’re sexual, too, and we are just as visually stimulated as men and we look at porn,” said Crystal Renaud, author of the recent book “Dirty Girls Come Clean,” a memoir about her own addiction to porn.

For the past year, the 26-year-old with punky-streaked hair has led Christian women’s porn addiction counseling sessions. Her Dirty Girls Ministries website has 450 members.

“I’ve met women who will lock themselves in a room and look at porn all day, ignoring their kids or their jobs,” she says. “I feel like I can relate because that’s all I cared about, getting my high. There are so many more women out there drowning in this addiction, you have no idea.”

Though there are few statistics to support Renaud’s claims about the extent of the problem, Christian media outlets like Today’s Christian Woman have recently run stories about women consuming porn, often theorizing that the habit starts with explicit romance novels.

Renaud has received a sexual addiction counseling certification from the American Association of Christian Counselors, though she is not licensed by secular organizations like the American Psychological Association. She promotes a five-step program she’s devised called SCARS - Surrender, Confessional, Accountability, Responsibility, Sharing - which encourages women to confess to each other about their desire to look at porn as a means of saying no to it.

In her memoir, Renaud writes about becoming a chronic masturbator and porn addict at age 10, after stumbling upon a dirty magazine in her brother’s room. It was a confusing, scary experience, she writes.

“My mother made it very clear what the parameters were when it came to sex, and there wasn’t a discussion beyond that,” Renaud said. She describes her relationship with her father as rocky, but wouldn’t elaborate.

In high school, Renaud was a leader in her Christian youth group, but she was also interested in porn. “I felt so bad and I wanted to stop looking at porn because that wasn’t what the Bible instructed,” she says, “and I knew God didn’t want me doing that.”

When she was 18, Renaud arranged to have sex for the first time at a hotel with a person she met in a Christian chat room. She says she went to the hotel but broke down in tears in her room and left before meeting the man.

“That was my rock bottom,” she says. “I remember being there and sobbing, thinking, ‘What am I doing risking my life to meet someone at a hotel I don’t even know?’”

Renaud said that she depends on God to keep her clean and that God is a kind of sponsor or monitor. When she wants to look at porn or masturbate, she and God have a kind of conversation, and the desire passes.

A crusade’s critics

The father of Christian-based porn and sex addiction therapy has a word for this “pray-away” method of sobriety.

“Hooey.”

Dr. Mark Laaser pioneered the Christian response to porn and sex addiction in the 1980s and chides counseling centers like Pure Life for what he says is their near-total reliance on prayer.

“Alcoholics don’t wish really hard to not be addicted to alcohol,” he says in a phone interview from his busy therapeutic practice in suburban Minneapolis. “The field of addiction is much deeper than opening your Bible.”

He’s pleased that more Christians are openly talking about pornography and sex addiction, but Laaser says he’s concerned that some Christian leaders and therapists are confusing sexual sin with sex addiction.

“Men come dragging into my office because their wives have caught them masturbating and labeled them addicts, or they’ve had one affair and they are now looking to have their affair excused by addiction,” he says.

“One affair doesn’t mean you’re a porn addict,” Laaser says. “Looking at porn occasionally doesn’t make you a porn addict. Those may be poor decisions, but they are not necessarily caused by clinical addiction.”

Porn is estimated to be a multibillion-dollar industry in America alone, banking at least 10 times what it did in 1970, the first time the U.S. government evaluated the retail value of the nation’s then-fledgling hardcore film, television and retail market.

During that same decade, Laaser had become the porn industry’s ideal customer. He was constantly on the hunt for it.
As a devout Christian, he spent a lot of energy trying to keep his porn a secret, especially from his wife, Debbie. His guilt distanced him from her emotionally, he says, and began eroding their relationship.

At the time, there was virtually no established psychological research, or mainstream therapy, for sex addiction. So Laaser reached out to secular 12-step programs, using Alcoholics Anonymous’ framework as a guide to reaching what he called sexual “sobriety,” abstaining from sex outside of marriage and avoiding masturbation.

“I remember thinking I wish my problem were drinking because I could get help easier,” Laaser said.

By the late ’80s, Laaser says, he was on the road to sobriety, combining therapeutic methods he’d learned while pursuing a doctorate in psychology from the University of Iowa and a divinity degree from Princeton Theological Seminary.

“It began to seem very evident to me that secular therapy does not work as effectively for Christians,” he said. “And that’s because the secular world … to us as Christians, seems less moral. Sex is everywhere in secular society - television, film, billboards. It’s just so much a part of life that it is excused.

“Christians just aren’t going to seek out a secular therapist - they won’t seek therapy at all if they don’t have some aspect of Christianity woven into their treatment.”

In 1992, Laaser authored the first book on Christian sexual addiction, titled “The Secret Sin.”

“The Christian church, both Protestant and Catholic, is experiencing tremendous turmoil in the area of sexuality,” it began. “The problem seems epidemic.”

It sold barely enough copies to stay in print.

In 2005, the publisher changed the title to “Healing the Wounds of Sexual Addiction,” and Laaser added chapters on Internet porn. It has sold 75,000 copies.

In Laaser’s care, a patient will undergo psychiatric evaluation, just as he would in the secular world. Laaser wants to know if the patient has any symptoms of depression, ADHD or anxiety. He says many sex addicts suffer from other mental health issues.

“You may need to go to a meeting every day, or connect with a sponsor; you may need to check in with this office once a day,” he said. “Every client is different, but we’re essentially helping them establish boundaries and restrictions.”

Some secular therapists have warmed to this kind of approach.

“The deeply religious were a group that were hard to reach years ago because they had extreme shame connected with their addiction,” says Tim Lee, a licensed social worker in New York with a specialty in sex and porn addiction treatment.

But Lee and Pennsylvania sex therapist Dr. John Giugliano, both members of the Society for Sexual Advancement - a national nonprofit think tank of licensed sex therapists - worry that therapy can become overly focused on dogma and ignore the patient’s real-life issues.

“If you spend your time in session talking about what God thinks and what the Bible says, you don’t get to understand what the patient thinks and what happened in their life up to that point that explains why,” Giugliano says.

Even within the world of Christian therapy, some counselors criticize the methods of other religious counselors.

Richard Blankenship, the Atlanta-based Christian therapist, studied under Laaser in the early 2000s. When Blankenship set up his practice in Atlanta to treat sex addicts, he used the same name as Laaser’s ministry, “Faithful and True,” adding only the word “Atlanta.”

But Laaser wants to make it clear that he has no association with Blankenship’s practice and doesn’t agree with some aspects of Blankenship’s program.

Blankenship doesn’t rely enough on psychological expertise, Laaser says. Laaser objects to a therapist telling a patient that an addiction may be patterns repeated through generations, as Blankenship does. And Laaser disagrees with Blankenship’s habit of connecting a patient’s addiction to a biblical character’s family tree.

Abraham’s family tree

For the rest of his therapy session at Faithful and True, Michael circles emotions from a list that Richardson and Blankenship have provided. He circles “anxious” and then describes a fight he had with his wife about his infidelity.

Blankenship responds to Michael’s description of the fight by saying that addiction is generational, mentioning the Kennedys and the Fondas.

Then Blankenship queues up a PowerPoint presentation on a laptop, showing Michael a family tree he has designed around the biblical story of Abraham.

It has a lot of boxes. There are several pages.

Abraham, Blankenship says, was a guy who committed some sexual transgressions, like fathering a child with Hagar while his wife was barren. Ultimately, God forgave him.

Michael starts talking about his own family. He describes a difficult upbringing with a father whom he said was philandering and verbally abusive. He says sex wasn’t talked about at his house when he was growing up.

Before the session ends, Michael is assured that there’s no reason to think that he won’t kick his addiction. He’ll be on a new path, Blankenship says, toward “sexual integrity.”

The 90-minute session comes to a close with a prayer.

Blankenship and his co-counselor Mark Richardson lower their heads.

Richardson asks that God look after Michael. He asks God to bless this therapy process. Michael is heading out into the world, he says, heading back into a culture of temptation and lust and ungodly ways.

Look after him, the therapist says, keep him on the right path.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Christianity • Church • Sex

soundoff (3,536 Responses)
  1. Darren

    there is no god.

    September 27, 2011 at 3:08 pm |
    • Esteban

      Actually, there is a God. He will go on doing His thing whether we join in or not. He gives us that choice.

      September 27, 2011 at 5:52 pm |
  2. Recovering Republican

    Christians cherry picking the Bible. Wow, that's a new one.

    September 27, 2011 at 1:55 pm |
  3. David

    And furthermore (I wasn't done talking), religions always seem to cause mental problems in some people, especially the youth. Many young boys and girls are taught that masturbation is wrong, however it's proven fact it is one of the most beneficial and positive things a human can do. They grow up learning it's bad and it causes problems both with their relationships and their relationships with themselves and being comfortable with their own person. The doctrines tend to desensitize and somewhat dehumanize someone's natural instincts and desires, where these desires are purely normal. They would look at it and cast you away deeming you a sinner, even if it's something so natural as self-pleasure. If I offend anyone, I'm sorry but.... the church takes more freedoms away than it can ever possibly give.

    September 26, 2011 at 3:44 pm |
  4. sunny lovetts

    Jesus is King, follow Him.

    September 26, 2011 at 3:29 pm |
  5. sunny lovetts

    What an offense picture CNN, we all know you guys over there hate god, but you don't have to push your satanic views on us.

    September 26, 2011 at 3:20 pm |
  6. Dean

    I remember when this article was first published and there were so many people (myself included) that expressed offense and disgust at this picture of the defiling of the Holy Bible that I believe CNN had pulled the picture. Now, apparently CNN has decided to reverse that decision and doesn't care about defiling sacred texts and offending people of faith. Well, now we all know where CNN stands and with whom. Why not do this to The Quran while you're at it?

    September 26, 2011 at 3:14 pm |
  7. mr sunshine

    i would like to see justin bieber and shane dawson do a p0rn0

    September 26, 2011 at 2:43 pm |
  8. Mary D.

    Only when so called christians practice what they preach.

    September 26, 2011 at 11:54 am |
  9. JDoe

    You people are so naive and gullible.... There is no such thing as a dinosaur!!!!

    Those 'skeletons' and 'fossils' are made of plastic and were buried by Democrats millions of years ago just to stir up trouble against religion in this generation. And that is why all of the museums are run by Democrats.... to keep their secret.

    Do your homework people!

    September 26, 2011 at 9:38 am |
    • Squeeky

      Thank you for that giggle today.

      September 27, 2011 at 1:36 pm |
  10. Wayne Frese

    I was once an Evangelical,but I'm eternally grateful now to be a Unitarian. I can now think for myself,read what I want,see the movies I want to see,promote gay and lesbian rights and "dance 'til I drop!" I HATED being a member of a church that forbade dancing,co-ed swimming,women in athletics,freedom of the press,women's rights,women's ordination. I WANT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH EVANGELICALS! They are a disgrace to American Freedom> We need more women like Katharine Hepburn,Esther Williams, Liz Taylor,Hillary Clinton,etc. WE NEED LESS ANITA BRYANTS!!! Male Evangelicals are nothing but male chauvinist pigs!!!

    September 26, 2011 at 3:21 am |
    • sunny lovetts

      You are so uninspiring. YEAH DO WHAT YOU WANT!! YEAH!!! THAT'S WHAT CHRIST TAUGHT!! YEAH COOL!!!

      September 26, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
    • Dean

      Who forced you to be an evangelical and attend an evangelical church? I am glad that you found a church that you enjoy and that fits your worldview. Finding a church that molds itself to your belief system is what's really important. Yelling "I hate evangelicals!" doesn't give me a good impression of the Unitarian Church. Is hate what they teach there? Have you spoken to your pastor about your hatred towards evangelicals? FYI: I don't really follow one denomination so-to-speak, but I am probably more in the Baptist tradition. I don't have a problem with things like dancing or having a few beers. Have a great day and Via Con Deos!

      September 26, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
    • Dean

      Sorry, you didn't say "I hate evangelicals!" I apologize for the misquote.

      September 26, 2011 at 3:27 pm |
  11. martinmunson

    The simple answer is "no" because you can't stop awesome. However, for more on the subject you can view our interview with god at wickedimproper . com

    September 25, 2011 at 10:30 am |
  12. Tank

    Can P0rn0graphy stop Christianity?

    September 23, 2011 at 8:50 pm |
    • Marie

      We can only hope.

      September 25, 2011 at 11:45 am |
  13. Wishability

    iPhone sales would plomit

    September 23, 2011 at 7:37 pm |
    • Kiljoy616

      i use an iPad and stand so that I can have a better grip.

      September 24, 2011 at 10:53 am |
  14. Hoovervilles

    Repeat with additional comments.

    My initial response to you comment was as follows,

    @Clay

    I wasn't asking herbert juarez to reply as I already know his kind of response. Just wanted him to think a little.

    I appreciate your reply.

    Regarding 3, I know that dinosaurs were extinct, but the young-earthers seem to be willfully ignorant of that fact or quite simply don't know due to their (religious) education. I was hoping for at least one of the inerrant bible literalists to think of the implications of dinosaurs on the ark.

    Regarding 6, thank you for your feedback and clarification.

    Your comments are greatly appreciated.

    Have a great day.

    Additional comments.

    This is the kind of interaction I was hoping for on the internet. Your correction is well taken. This is how we all advance. I made an error, it was cordially pointed out AND logically explained, and subsequently duly noted.

    Much better than many responses that one sees on blogs.

    Some encouragement. I have noted your reply and replies several other commenters who intelligently add to the discussion.These types of replies make the blogging process enjoyable in spite of the other kinds of replies, trolls, and etc.

    Once again,

    Have a great day!

    September 22, 2011 at 8:06 pm |
  15. NoGr8rH8r

    Do Everything in Moderation

    September 22, 2011 at 2:03 pm |
    • Shaun

      except what God says NOT to do at all!!!!!

      September 23, 2011 at 9:34 am |
  16. Hoovervilles

    @trav

    How did the flightless kiwi get to the ark?

    Simple question. Can you answer it?

    September 22, 2011 at 7:46 am |
    • Axl **cokehead

      Thats not a nice thing to call an australian

      September 22, 2011 at 9:08 am |
    • Marie

      The ark story is silly altogether, but also think about how, if all animals are decended from ark residents, how did they get to other continents from Mount Ararat after everything dried up? Christians can't believe in techtonic plate movement, after all, since the earth isn't old enough for that.

      September 25, 2011 at 11:50 am |
  17. Hoovervilles

    @trav

    Just as I thought. Instead of a thoughtful answer, I get this.

    Willful ignorance is bliss!

    September 22, 2011 at 7:21 am |
  18. Hoovervilles

    herbert Juarez stated
    “ @calgary
We regularly kick the snot out of "atheists" on Bible knowledge.In [sic] fact the youngest believer has the ability to show the godless,where[sic] the bear does his business in the buckwheat.If[sic] you are Canadian[sic] ,as in Calgary[sic], don't you have your own news network? “

    and he stated,
    "No ,because Jesus healed people everywhere he went!"

    @herbert juarez

    And he heals people today all over the U.S, RIGHT? Well many preachers pray in the name of Jesus to heal people and it happens, RIGHT?

    Jesus says many times pray in his name and you will receive.

    Matthew
    17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
    21:21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.
    21:22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

    Mark
    11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

    John
    14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
    14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
    14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

    And there you have it. For true believers who pray we have 1) If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. 2) And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive. And Jesus states it in an unequivocal and unconditional manner.

    OK, back to healing. You could really make an impression and bring a lot more sheep into the fold by simply praying to heal people.
    How you may ask. Here's how. Gather several true believers and pray for the healing of amputee soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan. These people are truly deserving to be healed. Who better than people than who were maimed serving our country.
    So with a group of true believers praying in the name of Jesus for a group of truly deserving Iraq war amputee vets with Jesus' promise that nothing is impossible and Jesus' "If ye ask in my name, I will do it.", they ought to be healed and NO LONGER AMPUTEES. Right? You could truly advance the glory of god.

    However as Carl Sagan once said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” So to prevent fraud, I suggest seeking out several war amputees at Walter Reed Hospital. These amputees could be thoroughly examined before and after the healing thus providing extraordinary evidence.

    So my challenge for you is to do this and heal some amputees in a SCIENTIFICALLY VERIFIABLE way. You would advance the glory of god and become internationally famous. What more could you ask for?

    Is your belief up to the challenge?

    September 21, 2011 at 8:52 pm |
    • trav

      whatevr silly!

      September 21, 2011 at 10:19 pm |
    • RAWoD

      Waste of time replaying other peoples quotes from comic books.

      September 22, 2011 at 12:53 pm |
  19. Hoovervilles

    herbert Juarez stated
    “ @calgary
We regularly kick the snot out of "atheists" on Bible knowledge.In [sic] fact the youngest believer has the ability to show the godless,where[sic] the bear does his business in the buckwheat.If[sic] you are Canadian[sic] ,as in Calgary[sic], don't you have your own news network? “

    @herbert juarez

    I have a puzzler for you. You don’t have to answer, just think about it.

    Regarding Noah’s Ark,

    1) How did the marsupials on the isolated island continent of Australia make it to the ark? How about the flightless Kiwi?

    2) How did the Silver Sword plants that inhabit high alt-i-tudes on Mt Haleakala make it to the ark? Since these plants cannot survive at sea level, how was their environment controlled? Were there air conditioners?

    3) How were the dinosaurs herded, fed and stalls cleaned?

    4) How were the salt water and fresh water fish simultaneously saved?

    5) In D-e-a-t-h Valley CA, there are P-u-p Fish that only survive in highly saline water and hot temperatures. How did they make it to the ark and how was their environment maintained? Maybe they had their own air conditioner.

    6) Since the flood was a new covenant erasing all past sins, why were all the forms of pestilence saved?

    7) How were the Tsetse fly, mosquitos, etc. maintained and separated from the rest of the animals. I guess they were in glass containers; Oh wait, glass was not around then.

    8) How were nasty biological things like Ebola, Anthrax, E-Coli, etc. contained? What kind of biological protection suit was used to protect the people from these?

    As one can imagine this is but a small list of puzzlers regarding the Ark.

    September 21, 2011 at 8:50 pm |
    • Hoovervilles

      @self

      Darn. I accidentally inserted an emoticon.

      September 21, 2011 at 8:56 pm |
    • trav

      your an idiot

      September 21, 2011 at 10:21 pm |
    • Clay

      1,2,4,5, and 7. You're trying to explain what an almighty, all powerful God can't do. Well done.
      3. Dinosaurs were extinct before then. Either that or they just weren't on the Ark, which would explain how they went extinct.
      6. The flood wasn't cleansing, it was judgement. In no way did it stop people from sining in the future. Noah and everyone on the Ark probably stopped, after seeing God's power like that. But they had children who'd never been on the Ark and had to follow God by faith.
      I know you didn't want an answer, but I just couldn't resist. Besides, someone needed to correct you about number 6.

      September 22, 2011 at 12:42 pm |
    • Hoovervilles

      @Clay

      I wasn't asking herbert juarez to reply as I already know his kind of response. Just wanted him to think a little.

      I appreciate your reply.

      Regarding 3, I know that dinosaurs were extinct, but the young-earthers seem to be willfully ignorant of that fact or quite simply don't know due to their (religious) education. I was hoping for at least one of the inerrant bible literalists to think of the implications of dinosaurs on the ark.

      Regarding 6, thank you for your feedback and clarification.

      Your comments are greatly appreciated.

      Have a great day.

      September 22, 2011 at 7:37 pm |
    • Chris

      http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n2/caring-for-the-animals this can answer a few of your questions

      September 23, 2011 at 9:04 pm |
  20. Johnny

    Fight human nature! Great idea! A sure win!

    September 21, 2011 at 7:40 pm |
    • GlenW78

      Right?

      September 28, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
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