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August 25th, 2011
08:01 AM ET

Muslim coalition calls for investigation of alleged NYPD surveillance

From Hussein Saddique, CNN

New York (CNN) - New York-area Muslims and civil liberties advocates called Wednesday for investigations and hearings after a report said that in the years since the 9/11 attacks, city police have carried out covert surveillance on Muslims with the help of the Central Intelligence Agency.

"We need the (New York) City Council to hold hearings and to investigate these revelations," said Ramzi Kassem, an associate professor of law at the City University of New York. He supervises CUNY's Creating Law Enforcement Accountability & Responsibility project, which aims to meet the legal needs of New York City Muslims affected by counterterrorism policies.

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  1. Islam Undercover on Malaysian

    Rainer is speaking truthfully so please open your eyes!!! Political correctness is a form of western cultural suicide, as we are witness to in the UK, Germany, Belgium, France, Denmark, etc. Muslims follow the Koran first and foremost and truly believe it is the word of God/Allah, which means there is NO interpretation. No compromise in any way, shape, or form...and they are taking away our rights and freedoms while acquiring relentless special treatment using our collective fear of being called 'racist' (Islam is a race all of a sudden? not a murderous nonpeaceful ideology?) Their evil intentions to conquer the world and impose Islamic law (Sharia) is clearly written in their 'holy' Koran...they are NOT here to assimilate, they are here to dominate. The West will crumble if we continue to allow mass immigration from muslim countries...look at the Geert Wilders trial for instance...who was on trial for speaking the truth about Islam. Free speech? NEVER possible in Islamic ideology. Am I 'racist'? No, I stand for equality for women, rights for gays, freedom to criticize, freedom to discuss, freedom to hold an independent opinion that muslims deem so offensive. Wake up, Islam is NOT compatible with democracy. Period.

    August 26, 2011 at 9:38 pm |
    • Muneef

      The Base of Sharia are the "Ten Commandments" which were given by GOD to Prophet Moses... So you see Shria is old Jewish rather than being new Islamic thing...! It simply says who makes a crime should pay for it justly....!?!

      Or are you here crying over the money they shared with you for being citizens? Or are you mad because they stupidly thought by obtaining the citizenship they will be taken as 100% equal as the White Americans or say Christians...

      Islam is not a race but rather of races....it was only Judaism that was taken as a race and were given a land as a race...!?
      We as Muslims are referred to as "Umaht Al-Islam" meaning the "Nation of Islam" so you see when you say Nation it means a combination of races under one rule...!!!

      August 26, 2011 at 10:56 pm |
  2. Islam Undercover on Malaysian

    http://www.FaithFreedom.org/ -> A lot of Muslim Cleric leave Islam after read this site. Do you coward to open this site Muslim??

    We know what Sharia means to civilized humanity. We witness it in Saudi Arabia; we witness it in Afghanistan under the Taliban; we witness it in Talibanized areas of Pakistan. We clearly know that the plight of women-Muslim or not-would become worse. Treatment of non-Muslims is horrible and extremely degrading under Sharia rule: it is happening in Taliban-occupied regions in Pakistan. The Hindus and Sikhs are being subjected to humiliating jizya, which is an exorbitant discriminatory tax for the security of the life and property of non-Muslims in Islamic state (see Quran 9:29). The Taliban attacked the Sikh community in Orakzai for failing to pay the demanded jizya, slayed the men, took possession of their homes and properties, and enslaved the women and children, in accordance with the Quranic commands (33:26) and Muhammad’s example of dealing with the Jewish tribe of Banu Quraiza [M.A. Khan, Islamic Jihad, p47-49]. Thousands of Hindus have already relocated to India in recent months in order to escape the Taliban oppression.

    August 26, 2011 at 9:36 pm |
  3. Muneef

    If you are not A Zionest Jew then you are worth nothing....

    Masters of the World in a New World Order;

    "Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."
    — Menachem Begin – Israeli Prime Minister 1977–1983

    http://www.iamthewitness.com/

    August 26, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
    • Muneef

      "The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship.

      In this New World Order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands."
      — Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, 'La Revue de Paris', p.574, June 1, 1928
      http://www.iamthewitness.com/

      August 26, 2011 at 3:27 pm |
    • Muneef

      Feel sorry for the Jews having established what now stands as a knife of their neck;
      Quote; 
      “It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .
      I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . .
      The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews.
      The anti-Semites shall be our best friends” 
      — Theodor Herzl, Founder of Zionism in 1897
      Unquote:
      http://www.iamthewitness.com/

      August 26, 2011 at 3:47 pm |
  4. ww69ara

    I would like to personally give horrific wedgies to every member of CAIR. But I don't want to touch any of their smelly, sick undies. Such pieces of crap.

    August 26, 2011 at 9:34 am |
  5. John

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGSvqMBj-ig

    August 26, 2011 at 6:39 am |
    • .....

      This is SPAM, not worth watching this junk, click the report abuse link to get rid of this TROLL.

      August 27, 2011 at 10:05 am |
  6. Islam is compassion

    We know what Sharia means to civilized humanity. We witness it in Saudi Arabia; we witness it in Afghanistan under the Taliban; we witness it in Talibanized areas of Pakistan. We clearly know that the plight of women-Muslim or not-would become worse. Treatment of non-Muslims is horrible and extremely degrading under Sharia rule: it is happening in Taliban-occupied regions in Pakistan. The Hindus and Sikhs are being subjected to humiliating jizya, which is an exorbitant discriminatory tax for the security of the life and property of non-Muslims in Islamic state (see Quran 9:29). The Taliban attacked the Sikh community in Orakzai for failing to pay the demanded jizya, slayed the men, took possession of their homes and properties, and enslaved the women and children, in accordance with the Quranic commands (33:26) and Muhammad’s example of dealing with the Jewish tribe of Banu Quraiza [M.A. Khan, Islamic Jihad, p47-49]. Thousands of Hindus have already relocated to India in recent months in order to escape the Taliban oppression.

    August 26, 2011 at 6:13 am |
  7. Islam is compassion

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/islamic-jihad-articles/england-tastes-the-heat-of-islamic-jihad/

    In his statement, PM Mr Cameron finally said, “This is not about poverty, it’s about culture. A culture that glorifies violence, shows disrespect to authority, and says everything about rights but nothing about responsibilities,” he said.[5] In this final statement, Mr Cameron has indirectly admitted that it were the Muslims who initiated the present large scale violence, including looting and plundering of valuables and continued that for five days; because Islamic culture is the culture that glorifies violence and shows disrespect to authority.

    The reaction of the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad:

    Finally, the reaction of the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has confirmed the Muslim involvement of the present riot in London and elsewhere in England. Had the Muslims of England not been involved in the violence, Mr Ahmadinejad would not have criticized the British about police excesses and harsh treatment of the rioters. In a statement, he said “Britain crackdown unacceptable.” He has also urged the UN to react on the riot in England.[6]

    August 26, 2011 at 6:10 am |
  8. HappyMeal

    Everyone – 300 million Americans – should be monitored by CIA and FBI.

    August 25, 2011 at 11:18 pm |
    • Reality

      And the CIA and FBI actually do that. You might want to read the Patriot Act!!!

      August 26, 2011 at 12:41 am |
  9. Muneef

    Pushing out unwanted citizens by irritating moves under some legal terms "Harassment" like...!

    August 25, 2011 at 9:59 pm |
    • Reality

      Obviously, Muneef missed yet again the following "nitty-gritty":

      What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon? And what drives today's 24/7 mosque/imam-planned acts of terror and horror? The koran, Mohammed's book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means. Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed. Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein. Until then, no male Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere..................................

      Apparently, the CIA and the NYPD also are aware of the teachings of Mohammed!!!!

      August 26, 2011 at 12:43 am |
    • Sarah

      Reality;
      How about getting a "reality check" first?! The unfortunate events of 9/11 didn't just happen out of the blue, nor was the U.S., often criticized for its imperial foreign policies, much loved around the world at the time (and is far less now). It had been consistently supporting puppet regimes and dictators like Mubarak, Saddam Hussein, and casually instigates internal disruptions in countries around the world, as it is accused of doing in Iran (Green Revolution), and South America. The 9/11 jerks just took their frustrations out on innocent civilians, where hundreds of the victims were Muslims themselves!

      August 26, 2011 at 2:12 am |
    • Muneef

      Reality.
      For very long some referred to it as "The twin horns of the Devil"...but just wonder why they called it that...did it have any role in the miseries of the world...?

      August 26, 2011 at 2:34 pm |
  10. Habib love little girls

    Join americans arms to crusade againts Islam and Atheist. Againts pedophilie and guy marriage.

    August 25, 2011 at 9:33 pm |
    • Sarah

      I hope you realize that the word "crusade" in its historical context has but a negative denotation! 'Tis really nothing to be proud of, for Christian Crusaders killed innocent women, children and elderly, Muslim, Jews and even fellow Christians in Jerusalem for their twisted ideological warfare

      August 26, 2011 at 2:14 am |
    • The Original

      @Sarah: The world had thousands of much more brutal "crusades" everywhere all the time but Westerners only remember that particulr few. The Western knowledge on the world history is failing thanks to atheists' junk books.

      August 27, 2011 at 1:34 am |
  11. Habib

    nice site > http://www.faithfreedom.org/

    August 25, 2011 at 9:27 pm |
  12. jon

    This is a perfect example of government running amok. Why don't they just declare martial law and be done with it. The CIA should not be spying on Americans and the NYPD shouldn't be doing any sort of intelligence work at all. Everyone involved in this should be prosecuted and jailed for the rest of their lives.

    August 25, 2011 at 7:47 pm |
    • AGuest9

      The CIA – by law – cannot spy on Americans in the US. You're thinking of the NSA.

      August 25, 2011 at 7:49 pm |
    • jon

      So you think that because the CIA by law cannot spy on Americans–that means they are obeying the law? If you believe that–you are naive.

      August 25, 2011 at 7:51 pm |
  13. gupsphoo

    Yes, remove the surveillance so they can freely talk about how much they hate and how to attack the US.

    August 25, 2011 at 6:31 pm |
    • Christy

      Well said. Muslims caused 9/11 so it isn't a stretch to think like minded muslims might try to capitalize on this event and massacre more innocent 'infidels'. Those who think Islam is peaceful and can co-exist with America and our freedom and values need their heads examined. Please continue to do your jobs and keep us safe. Being politically correct puts us all in jeopardy. Thank you to our hard working men and women in uniform 🙂

      August 25, 2011 at 11:50 pm |
  14. Mark

    I am now consigned to he11. I just drew a picture of the Prophet Muhammad using his koran to start a fire....

    August 25, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
  15. Mark

    Yes, who would even think a muslim would commit an atrocity. I guess all those pictures of terrorists hanging in mosques to create heroes for young moslems shouldn't be considered.

    August 25, 2011 at 4:02 pm |
  16. Bo

    =======@Moose==================== Probably "compass" really doesn't know how to use good grammer. He/she may be just one of the 'coke head' school drop-outs that come on this forum I never pay them any attention..

    August 25, 2011 at 2:19 pm |
    • Jo

      You already did pay attention to him or you would not have responded.

      August 25, 2011 at 3:42 pm |
  17. compass

    dont ask what u get from your country but ask what you give to your country. I guess this muslim immigrant didnt know this. We will glad if all muslim go back to desert. sharia and democracy cant go along.

    August 25, 2011 at 2:01 pm |
    • Moose McGillicutty

      If you are going to quote JFK, then do it right. And how about some capitalizaion and grammar while you are at it?

      August 25, 2011 at 2:05 pm |
  18. Rainer Braendlein

    Islam – no, thank you!

    Allone the audacity with which the Muslims always demand their rights (also in Germany), shows that there must be something wrong with their religion.

    Islam, in a word, means 9/11. It is fully justified, when you call Islam the 9/11-belief. The history of the spread of Islam is a history of bloody Muslim conquests. Look at today Istanbul (former Konstantinopel). This city was Christian for about 1000 years!!! Than (1453 a. D.) it was captured by the Muslim Turks (according to the historian Steven Runciman the Turks slayed a lot of civilians, after they had captured the city). Konstantinopel had been the center of Christianity for a long time. In contrast to the Roman Catholic Church the Greek Church of Konstantinopel was a real Christian Church (not mererly nominal Christian), Luther said.

    Imagine an insane Mexican prophet, called Mexammad, would unite all Mexican gangs for a war against New York and would indeed capture it. I think, the whole world would get shocked and would mourn.

    What the Turkish disciples of Muhammad did with Konstantinopel, was much worse, than this would be. Konstantinopel was the Queen of the cities. It was a the leading center of culture of the ancient world. The Emperors of Konstantinopel promoted and protected the Christian Church (Greek Church) for centuries.

    My claims:

    Shutdown of all mosques in the USA and Europe.

    Banishment of all Imams.

    Banishment of Muslim organizations.

    Muslims should not be allowed to work within the army, police or other official agencies.

    Note: Single Muslim fellow citizens should not be harmed in any way, but have all rights and duties. It is only about preventing them from seizing influence and power.

    Islam means bloodshed, terror, despotism, etc.. History has proven it. The Koran confirms it.

    Off with you, wicked Islam!

    August 25, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
    • AGuest9

      Lock up all Roman Catholic priests! They are all pedophiles!

      There, did that sound better?

      August 25, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
    • compass

      For my friends muslim, please defend jihad your faith by daqwah words. please come to forum faithfreedom.org

      August 25, 2011 at 1:44 pm |
    • Junius Gallio

      Fortunately, United States law prevents your "claims" from ever taking place–else we would also have to banish Christians from the land. After all, their history and Bible is as full of violence, hatred, and bloody conquest as is Islam.

      August 25, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
    • Christy

      Rainer is speaking truthfully so please open your eyes!!! Political correctness is a form of western cultural suicide, as we are witness to in the UK, Germany, Belgium, France, Denmark, etc. Muslims follow the Koran first and foremost and truly believe it is the word of God/Allah, which means there is NO interpretation. No compromise in any way, shape, or form...and they are taking away our rights and freedoms while acquiring relentless special treatment using our collective fear of being called 'racist' (Islam is a race all of a sudden? not a murderous nonpeaceful ideology?) Their evil intentions to conquer the world and impose Islamic law (Sharia) is clearly written in their 'holy' Koran...they are NOT here to assimilate, they are here to dominate. The West will crumble if we continue to allow mass immigration from muslim countries...look at the Geert Wilders trial for instance...who was on trial for speaking the truth about Islam. Free speech? NEVER possible in Islamic ideology. Am I 'racist'? No, I stand for equality for women, rights for gays, freedom to criticize, freedom to discuss, freedom to hold an independent opinion that muslims deem so offensive. Wake up, Islam is NOT compatible with democracy. Period.

      August 26, 2011 at 12:06 am |
  19. Reality

    What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon? And what drives today's 24/7 mosque/imam-planned acts of terror and horror? The koran, Mohammed's book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means. Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed. Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein. Until then, no male Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere..................................

    Apparently, the CIA and the NYPD also are aware of the teachings of Mohammed!!!!
    ==============================================================================

    August 25, 2011 at 12:35 pm |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      Thank you for the list of forbidden words!

      The Muslims will never accept any removing of passages of their holy filth. It belongs to the core Muslim tenets to acknowledge the Koran as highest divine revelation (higher than the Bible).

      Is see only one solution:

      We must prevent the Muslims from seizing too much influence or any influence on our societies at all. Not too much of them should be allowed to live in Western countries.

      August 25, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • AGuest9

      S3x with minors, mythological creatures stealing the women of earth, murder, slavery, going to war over a piece of land. Yes, the bible sounds like a much better book than the Qur'an!

      August 25, 2011 at 1:34 pm |
  20. Gus

    "Why", again, you claiming miracles without proof is worthless. Take up the challenge, or go away, coward. The challenge is:

    Explain why your god hates amputees. Despite endless prayers, no lost limb has ever grown back as the result of prayer. See e.g. http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

    August 25, 2011 at 12:26 pm |
    • Why

      I can only tell God loves his people and he loves them dearly whatever be their disability. I pray that an amputee will find the healing hand of God upon them so that they can feel his love in their life and they find that mmense strength in him.

      August 25, 2011 at 12:37 pm |
    • Gus

      So, "Why", you have no proof of your miracles, but you won't admit it. Fine. You have no proof of your "miracles". Case closed.

      August 25, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
    • compass

      the main cause of crusader and conflicts between muslim againts jew and christian was because mohammed dream about ascend to heaven from top of Jerusalem. This is why muslim want to take that city.

      August 25, 2011 at 1:26 pm |
    • GusNeedsProof

      The real question is, do you hate somebody just because you won't give them something they want?

      August 25, 2011 at 4:30 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Why.. he has bit of a problem with Africans at the moment though ...how can you stand by and say such empty religious phrases when it is obvious they are pure garbage...I would think an amputee would far prefer the limb back dont you..but that would involve real "miracles" and of course they do not exist.

      August 25, 2011 at 9:32 pm |
    • HappyMeal

      Live with your deformity – many times it's God's will. We find the grace of Christ more fully in weakness. It's grace.

      August 26, 2011 at 12:00 am |
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