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August 31st, 2011
07:42 PM ET

Headgear ban sparks melee between police, Muslim park patrons

From Kiran Khalid CNN

Rye, New York (CNN) -What was meant to be a celebration marking the end of Ramadan turned into a melee at an amusement park on Tuesday when a group of Muslim women were told they weren't allowed on certain rides with their headscarves.

Rye Playland was full of visitors celebrating Eid al-Fitr when the festive mood turned angry. Westchester County Police said the women wearing the hijab, a traditional Muslim headscarf, became argumentative when park employees enforced the no-headgear policy and men sprang to their defense.

"(The rule) didn't get relayed to the people who attended, so some people got upset," said Westchester County Police Capt. Thomas Gleason.

Fifteen people were arrested and two charged with felony assault after two park rangers sustained minor injuries.

Among those arrested were three women wearing the hijab. Police shut down the park for several hours during the incident.

"It had to do with headgear. People - patrons - are not allowed to wear headgear on rides for safety reasons," Gleason said.

Zead Ramadan, spokesman for the New York chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), said members of the Muslim American Society who had organized the outing asked him to come to the park to mediate. Ramadan said the women felt they had been targeted by park employees because of their religious views.

"They're the most obvious Muslims around because they have hijabs on. They felt they were discriminated against," Ramadan said.

"Maybe there was a level of frustration that went around across the board," Ramadan said. "Then you have the parks people who are trying to explain this and do their job."

Ramadan said he saw a cell-phone video showing police "yanking a hijabi-wearing woman out of the crowd."

"She was very small. They turn her around and throw her down on the ground." Ramadan said that's when the crowd got very angry.

"Nobody was assaulted prior to the police being called, and that in itself is a problem," Ramadan said.

Gleason said he was aware "there was some cell-phone footage and maybe some video,"

"There's no official video that we have released at this time," he said. "There are some videos in the park that we're retaining for our own information."

Gleason said he had seen seen "bits and pieces" of phone footage from the incident.

He said park officials told the Muslim organizers about the headgear ban but that information wasn't relayed to the group of visitors.

Ramadan chalked the whole incident up to "miscommunication."

"The women felt they were being targeted, but in fact these were safety precautions," he said. "And maybe (the park) didn't do the best job in disclosing those precautions."

But Westchester County Parks Deputy Commissioner Peter Tartaglia says the policy was made abundantly clear to the group's organizer, and that the rules are clearly posted.

"We repeatedly told him, because we knew this group would have religious headgear," Tartaglia insisted adding that a refund booth was set up in case anyone objected to the policy, which he said is posted prominently in the park.

"There's a sign at every ride," Tartaglia said. "When you enter the park, there's a height line and it lists headgear policy.

"What triggered the incident was fighting within the group and the subject was why they didn't know the policy," said Tartaglia, adding that he arrived at the scene about 20 minutes after the fight broke out. He said police were called when it appeared the altercation could lead to a riot.

Ride safety precautions posted on its website include the following safety rule:

"Hats must be secured, and jackets/sweaters must be worn properly and not around the waist while on a ride. Some rides do not allow backpacks, purses or head gear of any kind."

Rye Playland, also known as Playland Amusement Park, is located about 17 miles northeast of the Bronx in Westchester County.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Belief • Eid al-Fitr • Entertainment • Holidays • Islam • New York • Ramadan • United States

soundoff (328 Responses)
  1. steelerguin

    I'm sick and tired of muslims getting their "feeeeeelings hurt". I wonder what the baclkash would have been like if one of the women wearing a hajib would have had a serious injury when the material was caught in a ride. ...."what? you didn't tell us this was dangerous!. You must hate muslims." The story would then say, " a melee then ensued."

    September 1, 2011 at 10:30 am |
    • Muneef

      "Treat the people the way you would like to be treated";

      Though agree with you that certain amusement rides are dangerous as those which depends on speed and need that there should not be any loose gears ends such as headgears or loose unsecured coats and jackets...!
      But still am sure there were other ways to explain that to them with out being loudly rude or by pushing little girls to the ground...!!
      It is no good to explain after insulting had been done and attention brought to all those were there in the park towards them group...the way this case was handled was in away containing the true (((Essence))) of insulting discrimination...!! After all them group were at an amusement park and not at a concentration camp...!?! But as it seems "Customer Always Right" or "One's Pride and Dignity" is not respected in amusement parks...!? 

      September 1, 2011 at 1:46 pm |
    • Haime52

      Do they keep nuns off these rides?
      If the rules were not relayed properly it is not hard to imagime that the Muslims felt slighted. Being a red blooded American male, who reads those stupid signs anyway?

      September 3, 2011 at 7:43 pm |
  2. Rainer Braendlein

    Christians get beheaded in Islamic countries, because of ridiculous reasons.

    The Western countries treat Muslims very kindly (this shall continue).

    We treat them so kindly, but what is their answer?: Resistance to the state authority. Fine!

    Dear Muslims, we will continue to treat you kindly, but it is high time to abolish your damned wicked belief, the Islam!

    September 1, 2011 at 7:19 am |
    • Rainer Braendlein

      @William Hochmuth

      I would never harm an ordinary Muslim. On the contrary, I try to love my Muslim neighbours.

      I merely attack the Muslim belief, called Islam. Muhammad was the Anti-Jesus, and Islam is the Anti-faith. Koran is the Anti-Bible.

      Please memorize Mr. Hochmuth, I merely attack the Islamic doctrine, but not the Muslim people.

      September 1, 2011 at 9:23 am |
    • Chuck Dimitri

      William Demuth = fail. Steady on Rainer!

      September 1, 2011 at 10:14 am |
    • Mike

      This sounds like a classic case of miscommunication on all sides. The muslims in my predominately muslim neighborhood are very good neighbors. I respect them, they respect me. Sometimes, things happen. This is one of those times.

      September 1, 2011 at 10:25 am |
    • Melissa

      If you are attacking their beliefs, you are not treating them kindly Ranier. I'm sure you're the first to protest when people disparage Christianity as a wicked religion, and turn your eyes away to ignore the cruelty it inflicts on people who don't follow its beliefs.

      In this case, yes – the park was right to have its safety precautions for the headgear ban, and if the signage was at each ride as stated in the article, the women are at fault for not following those directions. But knowing how Americans act to those who are "outsiders," I'm sure there was plenty of poor behavior from "good" Christians in the crowd, too.

      September 1, 2011 at 10:33 am |
    • richunix

      Sorry, but the Islamic religion is a farce. Created to subjugate those that they wish to control. The religion as whole needs to be removed from the face of the earth, to never to see the light of day. It was a lie 1300 years ago and it’s a greater lie now. The only thing your Mohammed brought to this world was hate and yes I have a PICTURE of him eating a pork sandwich and yes I live in American and YES I have a gun, come visit me and I will insure that you are buried on your left side in a garbage heap.

      September 1, 2011 at 10:41 am |
    • silverback

      I thought Muslims hated our Western ways. Then why are the here enjoying the Western lifestyle?

      September 1, 2011 at 10:41 am |
    • Matthew

      Losers: This country was set up on Religious Freedom. Let all worship pecefully. Muslims (or anyone) who go viloent in the name of THEIR god should be jailed for a long long time.

      September 1, 2011 at 10:42 am |
    • William Demuth

      Perhaps your country can do a better job with the genocide of the Muslims then you did with the Jews?

      I mean your technology is some much more efficient you should be able to kill at least 10 times as many!

      An EASY 80 million more for your ovens.

      But rest assured, that will REALLY annoy the other 920 million, so understand ONE thing. If you keep pumping this filth you and yours will end your days bye putting a bullet in your head under the Reichstag.

      September 1, 2011 at 11:08 am |
    • puckthecat

      In one sentence you tell us that you respect your muslim brothers, but in the next sentence you banish everything they believe in. Make up your mind...

      September 1, 2011 at 11:36 am |
  3. Rainer Braendlein

    Al-Quds Mosque Hamburg

    (From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

    Al Quds Masjid Hamburg

    Basic information:

    Location St. Georg, Hamburg,

    Hamburg, Germany

    Geographic coordinates 53°33′25″N 10°01′10″E / 53.55694°N 10.01944°E / 53.55694; 10.01944 Coordinates: 53°33′25″N 10°01′10″E / 53.55694°N 10.01944°E / 53.55694; 10.01944

    Affiliation: Islam

    Architectural description:

    Architectural type: Mosque

    Architectural style: backyard

    Completed: 1993

    Al-Quds Mosque Hamburg (Arabic: مسجد القدس, meaning "Jerusalem", or Masjid Taiba مسجد طيبة) was a mosque in Hamburg, Germany that preached a radical form of Sunni Islam. Al-Quds is where some of the September 11 attackers including Mohamed Atta, attended and met one another, forming the Hamburg cell.[1]

    History: The mosque opened in 1993, and was run by the Taiba German-Arab Cultural Association.[2] It occupied a three-story building near the Hauptbahnhof rail station in a red-light district, in the St. Georg section of Hamburg.[3]

    Unlike many other mosques in Hamburg which cater to Persians and the Turkish population, al-Quds served Hamburg's smaller Arab population.[4] Under leadership of Iman Mohammed al Fizazi, the mosque preached a radical version of Sunni Islam.[3] Other leaders at the mosque have included Sheik Azid al Kirani.[3]

    The prayer room for men is carpeted, located on the first floor, and can accommodate up to 400. It is one of the Masjids with a radical interpretation of Islam and its practice, namely the way of the Salaf As-Salih.[3]. On Fridays, the mosque usually had around 250 in attendance.[5]

    2010 shut down

    The mosque was shut down by German security officials in August 2010 amid suspi-cion that the mosque was again being used as a meeting place for Islamic extremists involved in the 2010 European terror plot.[6] [7][8] German authorities discovered that 10 members of the mosque had traveled to the border region of Pakistan and Afghanistan, and Shahab D., an Iranian at the mosque, had joined the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan.[5]

    September 1, 2011 at 6:59 am |
    • richunix

      Good, now raze it to the ground and add salt to the former location

      September 1, 2011 at 10:45 am |
  4. Rainer Braendlein

    Mohamed Atta

    (From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search)

    Mohamed Atta
    Born Mohamed Atta
    (in Arabic: محمد عطا)
    September 1, 1968(1968-09-01)
    Kafr el-Sheikh, Egypt
    Died September 11, 2001(2001-09-11) (aged 33)
    Manhattan, New York, United States

    Alma mater: Cairo University, Technical University of Hamburg-Harburg

    Religion: Sunni Islam

    Mohamed Mohamed el-Amir Awad el-Sayed Atta (Arabic: محمد محمد الأمير عوض السيد عطا‎, Muḥammad Muḥammad al-Āmir ‘Awaḍ as-Sayyid ‘Aṭā) (September 1, 1968 – September 11, 2001) was one of the masterminds and the ringleader of the September 11 attacks who served as the hijacker-pilot of American Airlines Flight 11, crashing the plane into the North Tower of the World Trade Center as part of the coordinated attacks.[1][2][3][4]

    Born in 1968 in a small town in Egypt's Nile Delta, Atta moved with his family to the Abdeen section of Cairo at the age of 10. Atta studied architecture at Cairo University, graduating in 1990, and continued his studies in Hamburg, Germany at the Technical University of Hamburg. In Hamburg, Atta became involved with the al-Quds Mosque, where he met Marwan al-Shehhi, Ramzi bin al-Shibh, and Ziad Jarrah, together forming the Hamburg cell. Atta disappeared from Germany for periods of time, spending some time in Afghanistan, including several months in late 1999 and early 2000 when he met Osama bin Laden and other top al-Qaeda leaders. Atta and the other Hamburg cell members were recruited by bin Laden and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed for the "planes operation" in the United States. Atta returned to Hamburg in February 2000, and began inquiring about flight training in the United States.

    Atta arrived in the United States, together with Marwan al-Shehhi, in June 2000. Both ended up in south Florida at Huffman Aviation where they entered the Accelerated Pilot Program. Atta and Shehhi obtained instrument ratings in November 2000, and continued training on simulators and flight training. Beginning in May 2001, Atta assisted with the arrival of the muscle hijackers. In July 2001, Atta traveled to Spain where he met with bin al-Shibh to exchange information and finalize the plot. In August, Atta traveled on surveillance flights to determine details on how the attacks could be carried out.

    In early September 2001, Atta traveled to Maryland, where fellow hijacker Hani Hanjour was at the time. Atta then traveled to Boston, and on September 10, with Abdulaziz al-Omari to Portland, Maine. On the morning of September 11, Atta and Omari traveled on Colgan Air back to Boston, where they boarded American Airlines Flight 11. Fifteen minutes into the flight, the team of hijackers attacked and Atta took over control of the aircraft. At 8:46 a.m., Atta crashed the Boeing 767 into the North Tower of the World Trade Center.[5]

    September 1, 2011 at 6:52 am |
  5. Achbar Achmad

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ali

    Ali was active in his college years in Iraqi resistance efforts against Saddam Hussein. He was privy to techniques, propaganda tactics and strategies of various covert groups. He met and married his American wife while he was still living in Kurdistan. In September 1995, he became a born-again Christian, and thereafter commenced his writings on Islam. His writings and seminars over the last 15 years have taken him throughout the United States.

    In August, 2001, Ali launched Christian-Islamic Forum to advise the public on the agenda of radical Islam well underway in the West. His first book, Inside Islam: A Guide for Catholics, Ascension Press, 2003, was published to get the basic elements of Islam in the hands of those who wanted to read more.

    His second book, Out of Islam, Free at Last, Tate Publishing, 2007, presents a manual for engaging Muslims in productive conversations on the Koran. Mr. Ali is a member of the American Academy of Religion, where he delivered in March, 2008, a dissertation on the Theology of Slavery in Islam. The book begins with an account of his youth as a Muslim Kurd, through which he endured jail and torture. He writes that he escaped three death sentences under Saddam Hussein.

    Ali continues to challenge Muslims' historical misconceptions using the Qur'an and the Hadith. He is a regular speaker on Islam, and in Iraq in particular. He has been featured on numerous religious radio and television programs, including the EWTN's The Journey Home. In 2002, he was the co-host of the EWTN video series Islam and Christianity with Fr. Mitch Pacwa, S.J.

    September 1, 2011 at 2:27 am |
  6. CrystalRiver

    Muslims are good in that they are serious about what they stand for. This is what is lacking in the feminized West. Both need Jesus to be saved.

    September 1, 2011 at 2:14 am |
    • William Demuth

      Say hello to Kim Jong Ill for me!

      September 1, 2011 at 8:51 am |
    • Charms

      "feminized west" indeed. That is one perfect phrase. Political correctness is another ailment that plagues us too.

      September 1, 2011 at 10:44 am |
    • Muddy

      I have no problem with those that complain about PC as long as it goes both ways. If you can call Wiccan, Islam etc false religions, then it has to be okay to call Christianity a made up tool of oppression by the Romans, or say that its a Desert Religion unsuited for Europeans. I think the limits in most settings should be that you do not call any religion false, and are not insulting, but there should be no requirement to hide the truth. The fact Christianity has killed far more people in the name of religion than any other, and that Islam has killed far more people recently. Its fine to mention the facts, but not so nice to imply that either is inherent in the religion.

      September 1, 2011 at 11:21 am |
  7. Islam: The Happy Religion

    Obey my religion or I get violent. Boy, that's just another example of why it would be a LOT better for the world if religion just withered and went extinct.

    September 1, 2011 at 1:08 am |
    • William Demuth

      I fear they would rsather see us ALL extinct than to disband.

      Remember there were dozens and perhaps hundreds of religions that were destroyed by the followers of Abraham.

      I hope, the next great cult treats todays dominant cult members the same way the Christians and Muslims treated the waining faiths that came before them.

      As for me, I would see a certain irony if todays Pope was burnt to death on a stake in Vatican square for the crime of witchcraft and heresy.

      If you live by imaginary Gods, you may in fact die by one!

      September 1, 2011 at 9:00 am |
    • Tim W.

      HOW TRUE!

      September 3, 2011 at 11:22 pm |
  8. CrystalRiver

    If they have time and energy for this, all Muslims and non-Muslims should work towards the religious freedom in Islamic nations. Whatever Muslims go through in the West is a mere joke comparing to what's been done to the infidels and apostates in Islamic nations.

    September 1, 2011 at 12:22 am |
  9. John Does

    1. First Immigrant thinks they are hated. Why they moved to USA if they were not like USA system?

    "Ramadan said the women felt they had been targeted by park employees because of their religious views. "They're the most obvious Muslims around because they have hijabs on. They felt they were discriminated against," Ramadan said."

    2. Immigrant didn't know that USA is very different with their previous countries. In USA, you are not allowed to use force. There is police officer to investigate this thing.

    ""She was very small. They turn her around and throw her down on the ground." Ramadan said that's when the crowd got very angry." – maybe because She compulsed the park officers.

    3. Lot of Immigrant can't speak English well. (like myself)
    "He said park officials told the Muslim organizers about the headgear ban but that information wasn't relayed to the group of visitors. Ramadan chalked the whole incident up to "miscommunication.""

    4. Immigrant always think that Democracy is freedom to do anything as long it didn't touch somebody else.
    "What triggered the incident was fighting within the group and the subject was why they didn't know the policy," said Tartaglia, adding that he arrived at the scene about 20 minutes after the fight broke out. He said police were called when it appeared the altercation could lead to a riot."

    5. Wearing scarf can be very dangerous if the wind blow up and the scarf can flying and dangering others.

    August 31, 2011 at 11:47 pm |
    • myweightinwords

      What makes you think they were immigrants? Where in this story does it say that?

      We have Muslims who were born and raised here in this country, you know that, right?

      September 1, 2011 at 10:05 am |
    • jennygirl

      a scarf can also blow and get caught in mechanical equipment, resulting in strangulation at worst, or serious injury. the prejudice of this particular muslim group led to this incident, not the prejudice of park employees.

      September 1, 2011 at 10:38 am |
    • jennygirl

      in other words, i agree with the original person who posted.

      September 1, 2011 at 10:38 am |
    • Frogist

      @John Does:
      1)Yes, immigrants are disliked by many here in the US. You must have experienced that yourself being one. But if that just causes you to accept that hate, then you do a disservice to this country and your country of origin for not standing up to the prejudice you encounter instead of demaning others who stand up for your rights on your behalf.

      2) If she was indeed very small, the police would not have need to use such force with her. It wasn't like she had a weapon or presented a threat. That's another thing an immigrant might not know. The police are beholden to rules of conduct. And abuse of their authority should not be tolerated simply because they wear a uniform.

      3) If they were non-native English speakers, there might be a problem of communication.

      4) I doubt all immigrants think democracy is what you describe.

      5) And yes, wearing a headscarf is dangerous on certain rides, which is apparently why they were forbidden from going on the rides.

      September 1, 2011 at 2:34 pm |
  10. Mycology

    did they blame israel yet?

    August 31, 2011 at 10:01 pm |
    • PraiseTheLard

      No... it's all Obama's fault, naturally...

      September 1, 2011 at 9:12 am |
    • gale

      Obama blames Bush for everything so maybe it was his fault.

      September 1, 2011 at 10:29 am |
  11. HotAirAce

    What does "Hats must be secured" mean? How does a "hat" differ from "headgear"?

    August 31, 2011 at 9:56 pm |
  12. alicia

    Martin T, they were not banned, they chose to leave, and when people say they were helping eachother with cops, that doesn't sound very smart. Cops are doing their job. I'm 15 I go to amusement parks almost every weekend and literally around every corner there is a sign about policies for rides and almost everything in the park. While you wait in line for hours sometimes to get on a ride there are usually multiple signs leading up to the last seconds before you get on a ride posting what is acceptable. At bush gardens there is an intercom reading to you and still there are signs. For the cops to have been called there must have been a reason. I don't think young women should ahve been tackled and possibly hurt but, when they were told that they couldn't ride this certain ride they should have politley walked away and if they wanted a refund they should have gone to the front kiosk to get help in doing so.

    August 31, 2011 at 9:45 pm |
    • Martin T

      Alicia, I see your point and agree with you for the most part. IF they were Muslim Americans there is NO excuse for their behavior, IF they were expatriats, then perhaps there was more room for tolerance. IMHO

      August 31, 2011 at 10:29 pm |
  13. John Richardson

    Sounds like Ramadan wants to be reasonable here, whereas some members of the group don't want to be reasonable at all.

    August 31, 2011 at 9:23 pm |
  14. Muneef

    Or maybe Women can wear weapons of MD under their head gears?!

    August 31, 2011 at 8:45 pm |
    • Awkward Situations

      No moron. The SAFETY precautions and rules about no headgear on certain rides is to protect the passengers from getting their heads ripped off if by chance it gets snagged on something. They also tell people with long hair to secure it as best as they can for the same reasons.

      September 1, 2011 at 7:15 am |
    • Tom Farr

      Idiot

      September 1, 2011 at 10:42 am |
    • Muneef

      Haha..well seems I got my self few Medals "Not Bad" at all.

      How amazing really... In all Islamic and non Islamic countries there are amusement parks with all types of amusements but never heard that any had to take off any headgears before they can ride...??? 

      Just wonder if any amusement park in India had enforced upon sikh the taking off of their headgears before raiding...?!

      Think that action meant just to pressurize people to leave back their cultural significance....!!

      September 1, 2011 at 12:19 pm |
  15. Muneef

    Yah a woman heargear could strangle her or others beside her on the ride..!?

    August 31, 2011 at 8:42 pm |
    • John Richardson

      Yes, Muneef, that is precisely what might happen.

      August 31, 2011 at 11:33 pm |
    • Muneef

      John Rich..

      Hi there,agree with you that certain amusements are dangerous as in speed and need that there should not be any loose gears ends such as headgears or loose unsecured coats and jackets... But am sure there were other ways to explain with out being rude or pushing little girls to the floor....?! It is no good to explain after insulting and bringing the attention of all towards them group...this is the true sense of discrimination...!! After all they are at an amusement park and not at a concentration camp...!?!

      September 1, 2011 at 12:30 pm |
    • Muneef

      Correction please;
      John Rich..

      Hi there,agree with you that certain amusements are dangerous as in speed and need that there should not be any loose gears ends such as headgears or loose unsecured coats and jackets... But am sure there were other ways to explain with out being rude or pushing little girls to the floor....?! It is no good to explain after insulting and bringing the attention of all towards them group...this is the true (((Essence))) of discrimination...!! After all they are at an amusement park and not at a concentration camp...!?!

      September 1, 2011 at 12:32 pm |
  16. a million little peaces

    So peace time over with the fasting?

    August 31, 2011 at 8:34 pm |
  17. Bo

    ============ This is a legal matter–Why is it on this forum?

    August 31, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
    • Martin T

      Because the idea that they were banned because of their religion makes it relevant to these discussions.

      August 31, 2011 at 8:56 pm |
  18. Bo

    ============= This is not the only ammusment park with these rules. There may be some ammusement parks you can get into, but certain rides that have restrictions.

    August 31, 2011 at 8:21 pm |
  19. *frank*

    The Hijaber in the Rye.

    August 31, 2011 at 8:08 pm |
    • Peace2All

      Ooooooooooohhhhhhhhh *frank* Yikes ! LOL !!! 😀

      Peace...

      September 1, 2011 at 3:49 am |
  20. TO Jones

    Typical Muslim attention getting move. They were told before hand about the parks ban on head-wear. They chose to ignore it, then started physical violence. Next thousands of muslims come to the park to protest. Typical power move to get their way of life forced onto others.

    August 31, 2011 at 8:05 pm |
    • Mycology

      boooo hoooo, muslims are soooo opressed here in the west aren't they? lol.

      try being a christian or a jew or a hindu or a buddhist or an atheist over in muslim countries.

      I say we let them wear their ridiculous outfits on roller coasters, hopefully it will get sucked up into the machinery and take some heads with it.

      August 31, 2011 at 10:02 pm |
    • Martin T

      I am actually considering a move to Saudi, to teach at the King Abdulah University of Science and Technology.. guess we'll find out how they treat atheists... though I do not intend to profess that in public.

      August 31, 2011 at 10:21 pm |
    • CrystalRiver

      Martin, don't. Atheism has nothing worth dying for. And don't pollute Saudi Arabia by your presence.

      September 1, 2011 at 2:12 am |
    • Peace2All

      @Martin T

      Hey -Martin...

      " I am actually considering a move to Saudi, to teach at the King Abdulah University of Science and Technology "

      I'm curious as to what the 'calling' is for you to make a move such as this...?

      " guess we'll find out how they treat atheists... though I do not intend to profess that in public. "

      Wow... that is a scary thought. I am with you on that my friend. No public confessions of your atheistic world-views ! 😯

      Regards,

      Peace...

      September 1, 2011 at 3:29 am |
    • Peace2All

      @CrystalRiver

      You Said to -Martin T: " And don't pollute Saudi Arabia by your presence. "

      Why you are just an unending fountain of love and light on this blog !

      Peace...

      September 1, 2011 at 3:52 am |
    • Awkward Situations

      @Martin T: Take a quick trip over to the travel.state.gov website and read up on international travel information for visitors going to Saudi Arabia. Among many things.. no alcohol! Deal breaker right there.

      September 1, 2011 at 7:26 am |
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