September 6th, 2011
03:29 PM ET
Poll: Many Americans uncomfortable with Muslims
By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor
Washington (CNN) - Ten years after 9/11, Americans are wrestling with their opinions of Muslims, a new survey found, and where Americans get their TV news is playing a role in those opinions.
Nearly half of Americans would be uncomfortable with a woman wearing a burqa, a mosque being built in their neighborhood or Muslim men praying at an airport. Forty-one percent would be uncomfortable if a teacher at the elementary school in their community were Muslim.
Forty-seven percent of survey respondents said the values of Islam are at odds with American values.
The Public Religion Research Institute conducted the survey and issued a report in conjunction with the Brookings Institution, "What it Means to be American: Attitudes in an Increasingly Diverse America 10 Years after 9/11."
“Americans are wrestling with fear, but on the other hand they're also wrestling with acceptance,” said Robert P. Jones, CEO of the Public Religion Research Institute.
The results of the survey were announced Tuesday at the Brookings Institution in Washington.
One issue that seemed to divide respondents was sharia law.
Overall, 61% of respondents disagreed that Muslims want to establish sharia law in the U.S.
"2011 has been an enormously active year for this question," Jones said. "Forty-nine bills have been introduced in 29 states to ban sharia law. We asked the same question back in February, and only 23% of Americans agreed Muslims want to establish sharia as the law of the land. That number has gone up to 30%, so still a minority, but the minority has grown."
The numbers were also showed a correlation with where people went for their news.
Of Americans who say they trust Fox News the most for their television news, 52% believe that Muslims are trying to establish sharia law in the United States. Sixty-eight percent of Fox viewers believed the values of Islam were at odds with American values.
The report says fewer than one-third of Americans who most trust broadcast news, CNN (20%) and public television (23%) believe that Muslims are trying to establish sharia.
"It's an emotional roller coaster," said Dr. Muqtedar Khan, a professor of political science at the University of Delaware. "I looked at this survey, and I'm really depressed."
Khan, a practicing Muslim, was particularly disturbed by the attitudes toward Muslims and what he called a misunderstanding of sharia law. "Sharia is just a prop, an attempt to say, 'we just don't know and like Muslims.' "
The survey also found strong support of religious liberty and tolerance.
Eighty-eight percent of those contacted by pollsters agreed that "America was founded on the idea of religious freedom for everyone, including religious groups that are unpopular."
One year after a Florida pastor burned a copy of the Quran, 95% of people polled said religious books should be treated with respect.
And two-thirds of those polled said there should be strict separation between church and state.
According to Jones, 2,450 Americans were reached by phone for the survey, and it had a margin of error of plus or minus 2 percentage points.
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Uncomfortable with Muslims. I was before 9/11 don't ever stand down wind of them hygiene is something I guess the Koran won't let them practice
Its funny that you mention that, considering how often they must cleanse (hand, feet, face etc) if they were to religiously follow their worshipping practices.
Koran says faithful should hold doffo with left hand when relieving. When relieving give short burst and no Niagra Falls.
Hey cnn, here's a nice muslim story for you: Turkey's Ergodan is threatening to attack Cyprus is they allow Noble Energy to drill for oil & gas.
There is no reason to have such article, first off muslims make up 2% of our great nation and most assimilate into American society. This is just another ridiculous article made to bash this religion and our great values here in America. It's really amazing how 2% of our population receives almost all the media attention, I think that's where the opinions of those participants of this survey arise.
When they assimilate they take over.
==========@Reallity4:58================== I agree that it is difficult to accept all that death. But, these people were despertly wicket, and besides, they were God's creatures, He has the right to judge them as He well pleases–who are we to judge God. As an imperfect illustration, I was building a chair for my granddaughter, but things were not going well, so I destroyed the whole thing. Was it not my right to destroy what I had made, if I didn't like the way it was going?
So in the eyes of your peaceful and benevolent god, we are nothing more than chairs?
Bo, so in essence you talk a whole bunch of crap.
Mainly making assumptions about God. Pretend that in one moment HE is communicating with you; clearly state you know HIS intent (HIS will) and then quickly reverse your position and say "how can we know God". I get it.
You're a tool who likes to quote endlessly. My advice: get off the soap box when you are on your meds.
Yes G-d sure does have that right to destroy, but notice I said G-d had that right not some man claiming to be working for him. If G-d created then ONLY G-d has that right to destroy (he doesn't need our help). Unless G-d personally spoke to YOU, you don't have the right to take things into your own hand and claim you are doing his work. In your example you built the chair and you destroyed it- would it be right for me to come along and destroyed it without YOU specifically telling me to? How about if I just came up and destroyed your chair and said oh but so and so told me you said to do it? Saying that man's action is the will of G-d is stupid for what G-d does no man can do so there is no way man can be doing G-d's work for him. To think an angle spoke to only 1 man on G-d’s behalf throughout some 5-8K yrs of human civilization and only spoke to this 1 man (who couldn’t prove this) and told him to conquer the world using terror and killing is crazy. Either G-d thinks we are all stupid or those who really believe that are stupid.
Where are the woman in the picture? Are woman not included in bowing down to the gods? if so LIKE US people do the muslim men look at the females butt as they bend over while bowing down to the 8 arm god? questions need to be asked by a non muslim here. Are male muslims discrimatory towards the female gender?
First off in regards to your comment about 8 armed god, that is hunduism. and in response to the the question regarding females standing within the religion, in most traditional mosques women do not pray in the same room as men, but like anywhere else in there are muslims that discriminate against women and there are those that dont.
Aunt Milly, of course woman have no say. The fact of the matter is for the woman to utterly be obedient.
If the law exist for men to use it for their excuse or behaviour then by law it is right. That is what law means.
The logic is clear. Any westernized woman will tell you to shove that garbage of 'men are always right' down back at them.
I surely have taught my cousins that no matter who / whoever, either in family or friends should they be walked all over and be seen as servile dogs. I tell my cousins to smack the crap out of those bigots and report them. Self esteem and confidence is what they have. They will always have that, let the abuser be warned that this is the culture of the west.
There is no eight armed god. They worship the headfull of snakes. Their gods show people with snakes comming out of their head
Aunt Milly, this is what Koran 4:34 says about women:
"Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme. "
What is posted is exactly the dogma that needs to change for the men in power. Men in command.
The old world was a man's paradise .. create the laws to dominate. It shows it teeth when those men who use it exactly as it does without restraint and respect for the woman. The woman has no escape from such laws. They will just have to hope they make it out alive when they are beaten. Or when the men tires himself out. Maybe throw in the drunken man into that picture – you could have a death beating. It's legal and righteous to boot. That is what should be purged.
They will never purge the sleazy misogynist filth that fills their books and their cretinous brains any more than a Christian would purge the sleazy misogynistic crap that fills the Bible. They'll never do it and will die before they let such a reasonable and intelligent thing to happen.
your question becomes invalid because your an ignorant feminist. I loled so hard when you said 8 armed god. this isnt hinduism
You are like 98.00% of Americans who don't know nothing about Islam or even their own religion if they even have one or believe that we all came from monkeys which is the most stupids thing scienctest could have ever come up with. Try learning a thing or two before you make a comment
I think the result of the pull has a lot to do with the media and various politicians blasting that stereotype into people's heads for the last 10 years.
The word is POLL.
And you are incorrect. I've never liked the islam faith.
I think we have to make a distinction between Muslims who want to integrate, obey our secular laws AND practice their faith. They are welcome. They can veil if they wish, pray in public, whatever. I wouldn't mind living near a mosque as long as the Imam there opposed violent jihad against US civilians and promoted peacefully living with nonMuslim neighbors.
I don't want anyone in my neighborhood who thinks jihad means kill Americans. They are NOT welcome.
I have talked to lots of observant Muslims who believe in obeying secular US laws and want to get along and oppose violent attacks on US civilians. As I understand it jihad means "struggle" and applies just as much to struggle against one's own sinful impulses as anything else. That's an understanding of jihad I'm happy to live next door to.
This country needs a cleansing Christian crusade
When Muslims are a small minority in an area, they are "peace loving" "law abiding" people. As soon as there are enough of them in an area to begin to take over, they demand what they want, and get violent if they don't get it. You can't assume that they are not a real threat just because they don't yet have sufficient numbers in a particular area to take over and control of everything.
People who fear Islam ought to actually read the Holy Koran and become enlightened about what Islam is. You won't learn it from watching terrorists. Also ought to consider the facts: there are countries in Europe that have been majority Moslem for centuries: Albania, Kosovo, Bosnia-Herzegovina. And one of our NATO allies, Turkey, has a predominantly Moslem population. There are 1 billion Moslems in the world. 99.999% of them are normal people, nothing to be afraid of.
All of those countries consider indoor plumbing a luxury. Coincidence?
Agreed. The Koran doesn't correspond very well, to my mind, to the folks who attacked the WTC.
...apparently, you didn't comprehend what you read very well.
There's nothing holy about the koran. It's full of contradictions. It also teaches muslims to lie and to kill, period. I've read it.
Stop trying to candy-coat it. It's no different than christians claiming that the bible is about peace. Both books are based off of the torah. Hell itself in both islam and christianity is taken from greek mythology. Judaism, islam and christianity alike are all full of holes. None of them are worth the water in my toilet. They all believe in the same god, although they claim not to. Christianity borrowed it's god from judaism, and islam borrowed it's god from christianity. TAKE A HINT.
Why people continue to believe in this prehistoric nonsense and fight for it is beyond reasonable comprehension. The books that represent these mythological religions in themselves contain enough evidence to debunk themselves. Are people really this dense and naive?
Oh the irony. I went to a site called Faith Freedom International, a grassroots movement of ex-muslims, which would say otherwise. I recommend anyone willing to listen to their concerns to take a look at what they have to say against Islam.
I will NEVER look at Islam the same ever again. I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but it's a reason why I am now an Islamophobe for better or worse.
US mell Like Pee
What is indoor plumbing? Never heard of it
Who is US mell anyway?
Any relation to Mell Gibson?
Have you ever tried to sell Bibles or start a Christian church in Saudi Arabia? You probably wouldn't live long if you did. And women aren't allowed to drive there. In at least some Muslim countries, girls are not allowed to get a good education.
apparently, you never read it.
Yeah, "Turkey, has a predominantly Moslem population. ". Before, there were like 20% Christians living in Turkey. Where are they now? They were all massacred by the "good" muslims. Yet, these animals still don't want to admit it was a genocide. And Obama, even though he said during the elections he would acknowledge the Armenian genocide, he never did. Why? Because he is a muslim appeasing traitor.
Then why did the 99.999% of the 1.5 billion Peace Loving Muslims allow 9/11 to happen? Surely each 99,999 Muslims could have somehow stopped each 1 Muslim from attacking the US. The 9/11 attacks were too big of an operation to go unnoticed by other Peace Loving Muslims.
Just a few observations. 1-calling someone a bigot without knowing them or observing their life is.... oh whats the word... oh yeah biggotry. 2-Just a question... does it seem just a bit hypocritical to imply that people who watch a competing network news program are less tolerant. Seems a bit self serving since we don't know if those people have their views because of the network or came to the network because their views had already been formed. 3-I do think most Americans would be open to all religions including Islam were it not for one or two small facts. No other religion is so committed to violence and terrorism of innocent people world wide as Islam is. Now before you say I am lumping everyone together and that there are good Muslims like there are good (fill in the blank), let me ask why Muslims who claim to have conscience and detest such acts are not publically standing and denouncing these terrorists for the cowards they are. The answer is one of two things. Either they are terrified of the reciprocity that would come to them world wide (which would indicate we should step up our efforts to destroy these terrorists) or the other is that they really do believe the terrorists are right and the so called good Muslims are providing safe harbor for them. Since we cannot say which is true without more information we are left to go with our gut. Mine tells me to be better safe than sorry.
Islam and USA become on a collision course since the inception of Israel. Prior to occupation of Palestine by jewish settlers there was no quarrel between the two. Even if you look into the hollywood movies then, Arabs were potraited as brave and
romantic, compare to a complete opposite picture today.
It's because muslims think that mohammed guy ascended to heaven in Jerusalem. They think they own that land because some guy that claimed he was a prophet was once there.
What they don't tell you is that mohammed was also a r-a-p-i-s-t and killer. It's in the koran. Just like that kind of activity is in the torah and the bible. And it's ok to do according to those books. Why? Because they think god says it's ok. I supposed if I were severely dehydrated and malnourished I'd have hallucinations and think god was telling me things too.
The muslims already hated Jews when the slave trading, murdering, raping and child abusing prophet was still alive. He killed hundreds of Jews himself And that was 1400 years before Israel started to exist. Islam is anti-semitic. All muslims are too. Because their prophet was a racist pig.
Christian values, heck, ALL religious delusions do not conform with American values. Muslims are just the worst of the bunch at the moment.
You just can't hide your religious values when they are based in a book anyone can read. It just can't be done with the internet being so handy. Jews, Muslims, and Christians will never fully conform to our basic American values.
But they will keep hammering and yammering like idiots to try and change our country to suit their psychotic agendas.
Oh, hell yes.
Warren Jeffs also treated women like cr@p in the name of religion (as it was his right as he saw fit) and was convicted for it. It's no different for Muslims who break the same law in a similar manner. The law would only be unfair if only Muslims were convicted and the FLDS were not.
So how many of the Vatican are in prison for buggering altar boys?
Money talks, in fact it buys you little Irish boys rear ends.
True, the Vatican interfers with justice in our country. Damn eyetalians!
As I read this article I realizsed that it had to do a lot with "sharia law" I knew nothing about "sharia law" so I went to the Internet. I learned a little, but mostly that "sharia law" are mostly religious laws reconized by some countries. The question is, should America reconize these laws? My opionion is as long as they do not conflict with American laws, I don't care. But, that causes a lot of problems with Muslims, because they look at it as interfering with their religious freedom. An example that was given is that a Muslim man may use phyisical (violent) force to disipline his wife, by beating her if necessay to get her to obey him. We call that "domestic violence" but, as far as a Muslim man is concerned it is his right. It wasn't in the article I read, but a Muslim man may even kill his wife if he so deems it necessary. So what do you think?
I think Sharia, like Biblical law, is a primitive code that has no use in modern societies.
Slavery, Racisim, and hatred of non believers is codified in both, and they both need to be left in the ancient past.
I think that if you an American, you're an idiot.
* if you -are- an American*
Yeah, yeah.. sorry. I was distracted by this:
Shari'ah has been misunderstood in ways that astound me. I converted to Islam about 32 years ago and have practiced the Shari'ah here in the U.S. all that time. This means that I married according to the Shari'ah, with an Islamic ceremony. We had a special ceremony after each of our children was born. We dress and eat according to the Shari'ah–no pork, no bikinis, no alcohol, etc. We worship according to the Shari'ah, praying five times a day and fasting in Ramadan. We avoid paying or receiving interest in our financial dealings (not always easy but doable). We live our lives according to the teachings of Islam. And until a year or so ago it wasn't even an issue. Practically no one noticed, and it affected no one outside of my family. And in terms of the husband's treatment of the wife? That's the first thing a man will be asked about on the Day of Judgment, and if he's mistreated her he's in a lot of trouble. My husband finished his doctorate and then, because I had two years left, he worked in fast food to support me and our two kids so I could finish my doctorate too. That's how a Muslim husband should be. You hear about jerks who abuse and even kill their wives. They're not Muslims, not in the true sense, no matter what they call themselves. And they will answer to the Creator on Judgment Day.
To: The Cities of the world:
Why did the terrorists attack the World Trade Center on 9/11?
Intelligent people question why the Muslims attacked the world trade center?
What does the U.S. do to torment such action?
What is the cause of this terrorism?
The answer is corporate greed. The answer is a culture, nation that displays Satan under the amendment of free speech. Any sane person, any person who respects the Laws of Nature, any person who has a foundation, religion; any person having propriety, acknowledges Satanic Worship. The freedom of speech in the U.S. is the freedom to influence children through ‘Lady Gaga’ molesting a young lady on a table. The terrorist will protect their children from sadism and masochisms.
Stop corporate terrorism; stop oppressing the citizens in their countries. Stop outsourcing U.S. Citizens jobs to foreign countries. Stop slave labor. Furthermore understand inciting terrorism is a crime against humanity. Understand, Executives, Corporate Terrorism which incites retaliation will go before The Tribunal. The U.S. Government Officials who supports sadism are under investigation concerning crimes against nature and inciting terrorism.
The German Citizens Tribunal, U.N. Counter Terrorism Task Force, and the Knights of Christ
LKJ, you are incorrect. You want to know what the koran says about striking women?
"Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme."
That's Koran 4:34.
Some holy book and divine religion that trash is.
It's great that you have first hand experience with your culture and law. It worked for you. That's great.
Laws are always a reflection of the current time, that is what proper laws are and should be ever changing to "reflect" that point.
The point of issue is that Sharia Law from those that are absolute in it, do NOT want to change it. ALL things change.
The fact of contention is that matter of change. Western society has evolved, has changed. Will always be changing. Change or die. Sharia law will die if it doesn't change.
That change must take place. You are a women, those were laws made and designed by men. They gave power to men to enact their manner of law. They are outdated. It is time that every society is made better by taking power away from one s_e_x and distributing it to BOTH s_e_x_e_s. That is the equality that needs to change in the backwards desert lands.
So either Fox News is lying or CNN is omitting.... which is it?
"It's an emotional roller coaster," said Dr. Muqtedar Khan... "I looked at this survey, and I'm really depressed."
Make sure you get some therapy along with the medication, because it's only going to get worse for you as the American learning curve quickens.
"Sharia is just a prop, an attempt to say, 'we just don't know and like Muslims."
100+ Sharia courts in Britain and muslim No-Go Zones to go along with them.
Now -who- doesn't like who?
We all hate each other.
Walk around in Mormon or Hassidic, or Evangelical areas, and you will see the same junk.
Idiots who reject modernity and want to force their beliefs on EVERYONE else.
Bringing in Camel Jockeys will just muddy the waters, but they may just stomp some eavangelical butt, which in itself is a noble objective.
Better find a hole, Demuth, because when the 'butt stomping' begins, both the rednecks and the muslims will be targeting the weakest part of the equation first –
Like they are doing in Pakistan or India or Afghanistan or Iraq?
The ONLY reason America permits these wars to go on is that we city folk don't need to be involved.
Let the zealots kill each other, and we shall live on the DOD contracts!
Seems fair to me.
I don't think that there will be open warfare in the streets anytime soon, but I'm wary of the potential for rioting.
I knew an Iranian who SWORE the Iranian people were to smart to end up under a theocracy.
They killed him, and put his daughter in a camp.
I saw a CNN special LAST NIGHT about TORTURE in Baptists schools right here in the USA.
I wish I had your confidence.
@William Is that you, Bill Maher? I just love your show!
TOOBIN: And let's be clear. There is no such thing in an American courtroom as a biblical defense. You can maybe persuade a police officer not to arrest you, but once you're in a courtroom, no judge is going to say, "Well, it's OK if you Bible says it's OK."
Shít. Needs shutdown and warrants issued. Good catch by CNN, give credit when due.
I am uncomfortable with Muslims
I am uncomfortable with Jews
I am uncomfortable with Christians.
Each are just a differnt type of sore, a physical manifestation of the STD that is Abrahamic religion.
Three sides of the same puss pocket.
"Three sides of the same puss pocket" – a phrase I shall remember forever! 😀
Why Americans are uncomfortable with Islam:
The following koranic driven acts of terror and horror:
The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century
■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "
and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.
and more recently
1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured
1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh
2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured
3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,483 and 925 in non combat roles. 99,901 – 109,143 Iraqi civilians killed as of 3/3/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf
4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.
5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.
6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.
7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.
8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.
9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.
10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,141 killed in action, 242 killed in non-combat situations as of 03/03/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror
11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.
12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.
13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,
14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.
15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.
16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.
17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.
18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.
19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011
20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011
21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.
22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.
Christians have and can do the same horrors according to their text and you can pretty much say the same for the CHRISTIAN dark ages. The issue is where they came from, and what state that state is in. All religions can and are used for evil. Knowledge and enlightenment are the only answers.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Don't waste your breath. He has been paste posting this drivel for over a year.
Actually, it is the Old Testament that lists the god-approved atrocities:
"•Exodus 32: 3,000 Israelites killed by Moses for worshipping the golden calf.
•Numbers 31: After killing all men, boys and married women among the Midianites, 32,000 virgins remain as booty for the Israelites. (If unmarried girls are a quarter of the population, then 96,000 people were killed.)
•Joshua: ◦Joshua 8: 12,000 men and women, all the people of Ai, killed.
◦Joshua 10: Joshua completely destroys Gibeon ("larger than Ai"), Makeddah, Libnah, Lachish, Eglon, Hebron, Debir. "He left no survivors."
◦Joshua 11: Hazor destroyed. [Paul Johnson, A History of the Jews (1987), estimates the population of Hazor at ?> 50,000]
◦TOTAL: if Ai is average, 12,000 x 9 = 108,000 killed.
•Judges 1: 10,000 Canaanites k. at Battle of Bezek. Jerusalem and Zephath destroyed.
•Judges 3: ca. 10,000 Moabites k. at Jordan River.
•Judges 8: 120,000 Midianite soldiers k. by Gideon
•Judges 20: Benjamin attacked by other tribes. 25,000 killed.
•1 Samuel 4: 4,000 Isrealites killed at 1st Battle of Ebenezer/Aphek. 30,000 Isr. k. at 2nd battle.
•David: ◦2 Samuel 8: 22,000 Arameans of Damascus and 18,000 Edomites killed in 2 battles.
◦2 Samuel 10: 40,000 Aramean footsoldiers and 7,000 charioteers killed at Helam.
◦2 Samuel 18: 20,000 Israelites under Absalom killed at Ephraim.
•1 Kings 20: 100,000 Arameans killed by Israelites at Battle of Aphek. Another 27,000 killed by collapsing wall.
•2 Chron 13: Judah beat Israel and inflicted 500,000 casualties.
•2 Chron 25: Amaziah, king of Judah, k. 10,000 from Seir in battle and executed 10,000 POWs. Discharged Judean soldiers pillaged and killed 3,000.
•2 Chron 28: Pekah, king of Israel, slew 120,000 Judeans
•TOTAL: That comes to about 1,283,000 mass killings specifically enumerated in the Old Testament/Torah. "
The New Testament has only one major atrocity, that of god committing filicide assuming you believe in this Christian mumbo jumbo. Said atrocity should be enough to vitiate all of Christianity.
Ya gotta love it!
Umm... Not sure what you are trying to prove with the Old Testament list of scriptures, but the Muslims follow the old testament too...
Because most americans are hypocritical christian bigots.
All that kneeling as in the picture looks pretty "uncomfortable" for anyone.
Instead of a burqa why cant the women wear something else that starts with a B.
A bandana? 🙂
Exactly. Only a bandana.
• boiled wool jacket
• bomber jacket
• bathing suit
• bath robe
• beach cover-up
• biking short
• button down shirt
• bell bottoms
• boot cut jeans/pants
• baseball cap
• body suit
Bag over their heads?
I wear a "burqini" when I swim–a swimsuit that covers everything. Sometimes I wear blazers and when I was younger (and thinner) I wore blue jeans. In fact, I still like to wear anything blue. Does that count?
It only counts if everyone would prefer you DIDN'T wear it.
If it is a kindness to US, then we approve.
@Big Willy D.
LOL... ! 😀
i think its because of all people "americans" are amoungst the most devote, yet can't FOR THE LIFE OF THEM quote there book of faith... muslims can quote the entire quran, why... because 1) they have read it, i know, go figure! and 2) they believe in what there book tells them, so much so that they have a commandmant that is simply to read it... study it... and know it like you do your mother, BECAUSE ITS THAT IMPORTANT TO THEM!!! on the other hand, dumb @ass "AMERICANS" are slowly forgetting how to read, and once more, are slowly teaching the kids to write less as well... thats right, soon the u.s. will be the dumbest nation ever.. oh wait did i say soon, oops!!! we are here already!
You do realize that the Muslims are the LEAST literate of the big three?
They all are pathetic, but trying to elevate the intellect of the Muslims above say the Jews is just silly.
Actually this is a reply to the reply. In some countries, there are high rates of illiteracy, especially in places like Pakistan. This is because of corruption and it makes me sick. Most American Muslims, though, are highly educated. And my son's fiancee, who is from Central Asia, is fluent in three or four languages.
How’s this for quoting scriptures hippypoet?
The Lord has made all for Himself, yes, even the wicked for the day of doom. (Proverbs 16:4)
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked. (Jeremiah 17:9)
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth. (Colossians 1:16)
The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies. (Psalm 58:3)
You are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power; for You created all things, and by Your will they exist and were created. (Revelation 4:11)
I think you may be missing the main point, of -hippypoet's assertion which he mentions in the second part of his posting.
Peace2ALL, I’m not missing his point. Jesus already told us (those that read His letter, the Bible) …
For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.
Peace2All – HS is one of those fundamentalist fanatics that believe their reality is the only correct one, they are addicts stuck on their man made version of the truth. You can't change their minds because they are to blind to the goodness of those right in front of them because you are disagreeing with their version of reality. As long as we keep HS busy posting their nonsense on here we can contain them in their psychosis.
HS, want to read something funny from the bible?
"And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power." –Mark 9:1 (KJV)
"Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." –Matthew 16:28 (KJV)
You see what that is? It's jesus telling people that he's going to return. He was talking specifically to people around him. You know what that means? He's awfully late.
"When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. I tell you the truth, you will not finish going through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes." –Matthew 10:23 (NIV)
Well Jesus? Where art thou?
Oh that's right! The bible is a myth! Just like islam and judaism, and ZEUS.
Scott is one of those delusional fish in the ocean that keeps asking the other fish …”what is water”? When they answer “look around you”! He then screams, “prove it to me”.
Kyle, you should worry. Jesus is coming back. Not on your time frame, but His. You however, will fall all over yourself when the anti-christ appears and pretends to be Him. Better start reading His letter He sent to all of us (the Bible).
Islam is not a religion - it is a cult. Someone posted that Muslims know their Quran back and forth - perhaps that is because they are indoctrinated from the time of birth. They are not given an education as we know it - they are indoctrinated into the cult - they are forced to memorize and recite the Quran 24/7 - there is no option. Muslim nations are among the most illiterate in the world. Someone also posted that the Quran says there is no 'compulsion' in religion - so perhaps that person should explain why someone is not allowed to leave Islam - if they do, they are called an 'apostate' and should be killed. This is a supremist ideology whose intent is never to co-exist with any non-Muslims but to rule over those they 'allow' to exist in a slave state - hence dhimiitude. And take note of the damage they are doing in every nation that has laid down the welcome mat for them, particularly those whose citizens are not armed. When a Muslim speaks of 'community' they are not including anyone but other Muslims. Learn about and understand their deception to promote their cult and ultimate goal of sharia which will never be successul.