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Your take: Comments on religous changes sparked by 9/11
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September 6th, 2011
09:38 PM ET

Your take: Comments on religous changes sparked by 9/11

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) - The September 11 attacks were more than a national tragedy; the event also set off spiritual crises.

That was the premise of a Sunday Belief Blog story that provoked more than 1,800 comments from impassioned readers.

The article, “4 Ways 9/11 changed America’s attitude toward religion," triggered some stinging exchanges among readers, who fought over the piece's four main assertions.

The story said that 9/11 made America more “humble,” spawned the rise of “Christo-Americanism,” galvanized interfaith efforts and emboldened atheists.

One exchange involved an atheist and a defender of  religion. Commentator Haime52 said that atheists go overboard when they say religion is irrational.

Are they jealous of the hope religious people have in something better? ….. They often ask for proof, visible proof. Who among them has seen evolution or the big bang? Who sat and watched for the millions of years, that they say it took to form fossils?

The atheists response: such criticism is irrational. One commenter, iamdeadlyserious, said that atheists don’t have the luxury of being irrational because their worldview is based on reason.

As for not "seeing" evidence for evolution or the Big Bang, both of those scientific theories have been tested, and ample evidence has been found to support them. But like all good science, they're open to changing when new information is introduced (unlike religion). And more importantly, there's zero evidence for a god. ’

Another reader, a young interfaith leader,  said that her generation is suspicious of anyone who claims his or her way is the only path to God. She said that exclusive claims to religious truth should become “obsolete" because 9/11 demonstrated the destructive power of that type of thinking (the 9/11 hijackers were motivated in part by an extremist form of Islam).

That reader wondered, though: If religions don’t say that they have the ruth, what are they good for? TheRationale commentator said:

Then why the heck believe one thing or another?  It's like there's a court case over who shot the other person first. You either have the monopoly on truth or you don't. It's the same with religions. They all claim to be the right one, and now we're saying...what?

Another commenter challenged the article's claim that America had been “humbled” by 9/11. Wave99 wrote:

As a result of our “non-humble” reactions – Iraq fell, Afghanistan was overrun, and several other nations felt and witnessed our resolve. I do not question whether we responded correctly which is another issue. But, I definitely chalk this article up as another biased writing that speaks mostly to the minority of our citizens who believe America SHOULD be humbled and who DO NOT believe we have religious and many other freedoms.

And, of course, whenever there is any talk about religion, some commentators get carried away. A commenter who identified as Corse, called a commenter he disagreed with a “sleazy bit of trash.”

Your removal from this realm of existence would be a real improvement. And if all the others of your ilk were disposed of as well, the whole country would rejoice!

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- CNN Writer

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  1. Muneef

    I think Muslim community is in deep trouble for it's backwardness and poverty while we see nothing is being done to resolve that...do we no have any other more important things to discuss than Birthdays or which foot first or this or that? So many things are being discussed and focused on that which has nothing about perfecting us as Muslims in front of the other nations...

    Our nation was once a "Light House of knowledge for all those nations...but today we are being given as the worse example among the nations...!! Why was that and where we went wrong? What has to be reviewed and be adjusted... It was our Imams and the educated Muslims behind the failure of the Image of Islam on the face of the nations of earth...
    It was us as Muslims who should have been highly educated masses and be one of the most prosperous nations covered under the Islamic umbrella...
    Islam was based on the investment of the human being knowledge as to Read,Think and Learn for making the benefit beneficial for all Human beings... Islam was based on Mercifulness towards human beings and towards bringing them to know what they do not know with out compelling their belief nor to killing them for not adopting what they do not know of or for their belief...

    If the Majority of Muslim Nation are seen in deep poverty, backwardness, ignorance,uneducated and accused worldwide as being as Sa-v-age and Barbar-i-ans ?? Who would you think would believe you are on the right track? Was or Is that really what we wanted to achieve for Islam Image? How would GOD "Allah" or his Ring Messenger and Prophet..think of our achievements for Islam Image..? What ever is happening is causing fears and doubts to other nations who no longer now want to eat with Muslims or live by Muslims and that is happening now to all Islamic nation worldwide..! They are doubted in fear of their mentality and intentions of their hearts towards other living human beings..! Was it that what we wanted for Islam or was it like that how it should have been??
    In the past of earlier decades every nation or individuals of any nation were happy to deal or trade or buy from Islamic traders marking them as being most honest and truthful...that's how they were known as traders who's their sea trade extended from Indian ocean to the China Sea...those other than the land transportation by Camel Caravans moving between the South and North as well as between the far East and the far West...!!

    How can we regain the image of Islam as a religion of Honesty,Knowledge and Prosperity for the Nation of Islam... It was one of the saddest things to see that Islam has no longer one major "Bait Maal Almuslimeen" "The Islamic Wealth Vault" which could have used such funds to encourage such developments to the nation rather than on hate or terror suicidal acts that Islam being abused by...!
    Asking GOD "Allah" for forgiveness for what has been said as a reminder to our nation and leaders... That we should not take the Shells for discussions and leave behind the True Heart of the Message relaid upon us to carry in the best of Image and acts.. Just remember that Pen could be a better weapon than Swords... With Pens we will spill Oceans of Inks but with Swords we will spill oceans of bloods..
    Peace to all,         

    September 8, 2011 at 3:56 pm |
    • Muneef

      The extremes are a heartache to those in the middle of the ideology of "Live and Let Live"... Because even those living as being the Isthmus between extremes...are considered by the extremes as traitors if not the enemy... May GOD "Allah"have mercy upon all those with Good intentions towards Humenity and Livings...Amen

      September 8, 2011 at 4:32 pm |
    • Reality

      An easy solution:

      The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:

      ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

      Are you ready?

      Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

      The First Five of the 77 Branches:

      "1. Belief in Allah"

      aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your cleansing neurons.

      "2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

      Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".

      "3. To believe in the existence of angels."

      A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

      "4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."

      Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

      Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.

      Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

      "5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him)
      alone."
      Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

      Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

      Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.

      Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..

      September 8, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
  2. Joe

    Tragedy though it was (9/11), why were these lives any more precious than the 100's of thousands of innocent Iraquis, Afghanis, and others the US has killed since then? What's a few less brown people, more or less? Will their families grieve any less than ours? And, incredibly, the main thing to come out of all this is the rise of the super-churches, especially in the South, who spend all their time preaching the need for violence against "violent" religions. Ignorance is ignorance, whether it comes from Iraq or Texas. Before they had Islam to defame, they hammered on Bill and Hilary, and before the Wall came down, on Communism.

    September 8, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
    • Muneef

      Meaning;
      They made the virus and planted it against communism and when it finished it turned against capitalism...they inspired the virus of moves to make and allowed it to happen under their knowledge to latter take the advantage of breaking all laws and protocols invading and interfering with all politics in the name of protecting US National Security

      September 8, 2011 at 7:57 pm |
  3. Muneef

    Really silly to think that people were dancing for the murder of other innocent people that were in the planes and the buildings that were targeted but rather those who had laughed or danced were at state of shock of disbelief while happy to seeing that the Pride of the Hulk or the "T-i-tanic" Tyrant been hurt...

    What they did not know is that this was not the story they were made to believe...but was rather a broke hulk was all rapped up in protocols and agreements that froze  their move and had to plan and allow the happening of some thing big that would allow it break the chains wrapped up with to do what it had done for the last decade....!?

    Who is laughing at who with such stories that you planed created for us more advance beforehand which were and are watched it the Hollywood Movies...other than all the prophecies beforehand...!! It was by such act as well the presidency and the party time was extended for four other additional years to mess-up with the that been messed up with since then.

    Twin Towers world trade centers....how much financial transactions take place there...? For who's interest to mixup the cards or burn down the records? What were the effects of that towards the world economy and trade...? Who's full benefit such act was for....? Was it at all for Muslims benefit!! How much Muslims have lost against the benefit of hurting a pride of a Tyrant...!? 
    Just wonder whether Enron some how connected to it since that was within time frame...!!
     

    September 8, 2011 at 12:28 pm |
  4. Carla

    American atheism = North Korean insanity + food
    American atheism = Nazism -(minus) hatred of the Jews -(minus) German intelligence + laziness

    September 8, 2011 at 11:39 am |
  5. Carla

    American atheists = brutal Soviets + immorality

    September 8, 2011 at 12:36 am |
    • dg

      You have no clue what you are talking about. Though the soviet socialist party's communist members may have been atheists this was not the general belief of all soviet citizens. Also atheism is social/religious philosophical belief while socialism and communism are political philosphical beliefs. People like you are the reason this country is so screwed up since you vote without having a clue what is actually going on.

      September 8, 2011 at 1:29 am |
    • SemperFideliS15486372

      You disgusting Christians make me want to projectile vomit.

      September 8, 2011 at 10:06 am |
    • Kelly

      It is ignorance and intolerance like yours that creates the undeserved stigma against the non-religious in this country.

      September 8, 2011 at 4:38 pm |
    • captain america

      You could be onto something Carla!

      September 8, 2011 at 7:11 pm |
    • Susan

      Well, she's on something, that's for sure.

      September 9, 2011 at 7:56 am |
    • MomOf3

      So, are you saying the the 'brutal soviets' were moral? I may have missed you point, i was always lousy at math!

      September 12, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
  6. dg

    Atheism is too bogged down with "one way truths" as religion is. The rational, logical and scientific approach is agnosticism or secular humanism as they don't have platforms of holding the truth but rather a philosphy open to change as evidence proves previous theories or approaches incorrect or folly. Agnostics and secular humanists do not know if there is a God, gods or not but current concrete evidence points to there not being one and until evidence present itself otherwise this is the course of belief that is most rational, logical, and scientific. It is surprising how many people do not know these differences esp when anyone that questions there being a God get thrown in with atheists when they beliefs more likely are similar to agnostics or secular humanists. Everyone should do some research and get a clue as to what a atheist actually is and in that same breath what a socialist, fascist and communist are as well since these terms are all too often thrown about incorrectly by too many.

    September 8, 2011 at 12:24 am |
    • Free

      Of course nobody really knows for certain whether God exists or not. They think they do, but there is always a margin of doubt involved. One can only remain an agnostic, or undecided, for so long before choosing to live your life as though God does, or does not exist. You can hop over the fence as many times as you like, but you can't sit on the fence forever.

      September 8, 2011 at 10:02 am |
    • MomOf3

      So, agnostics and secular humanists are just playing it safe....just in case!

      In case there is a god, they can say "well, we were waiting for the proof, but NOW we totally agree!"
      In case there is no god, they can say "we thought so all along, but we were waiting to see their proof!"

      My question is, what KIND of proof are you waiting for? And, will you know it when you see it, or will a christian have to explain it to you? How will you know it's proof, if a christian has to explain it to you, since they've been saying for two millennia that the 'proof' exists, and yet you still don't believe.

      When do you get off the fence?

      September 12, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
  7. Carla

    Americans haven't changed. They are immune to violence and grief because of all the movies they make.

    September 7, 2011 at 10:47 pm |
    • SemperFideliS15486372

      Yes, all of us Americans make movies. EVERYONE.

      September 8, 2011 at 10:06 am |
    • myweightinwords

      I'm sorry....what?

      Immune to grief because of movies?

      September 9, 2011 at 11:17 am |
  8. Muneef

    911 Goha's Nail fixed on the whole Islamic Nation and not particular sectors of Islam;

    911. From days alike last year 2010 up to these same days..of 2011 already one whole year for me here and noticed that heat arises every time this days come closer or a certain accidents take place... Last year was a Florida Paster of Dove Church threatening to burn the Quran...! This year GOD knows what under sleeve awaiting the opportunity to divid the nations united under the Western and Eastern Flags further more into bloodshed confrontations...under the name of Religions or Political Parties"Ideologies"...! 

    Latest was explosions in India marked as "Islamic Jihadists" and another in Pakistan although I was surprised that it was not marked as "Hindu Jihadists"... That would have had both Great Countries confront each other serving the purpose of other competing nations over the Rich Indian Peninsular... Believe me no nation fall back unless people of her own are traitors to it's nations principals and beliefs for the reason of Hate,Envy,Revenge, or Greeds towards material wealth even if by selling their Dignity and integrity or their family,tribe,community,the nation and the country it wouldn't mean much to them...and those can be found among every level of the one Society...

    Any way seems that we Muslims are seeing our religion is being Nailed one  after another with acts that we disapprove of under any name such as targeting civilians or those in duty of the law and order..! As a responsible person from a great religion such as Islam, I wouldn't make an act in a place where I think many innocent Muslims would suffer in the hands of non Muslims...!!
    Still I do not believe that those call them selves Muslims Jihadists would not mind making a Terrorist acts at or close to Mosques or any minorities worship houses,nor in the markets where people make and take their living and needs..!?!
    This is not my Islam where we should reflect to be a honorable example that is Respected and Feared as Human of High Morals and Intel-lig-ence rather than being Feared as Sa-v-age Barb-a-rians...!! That is the True Jihad and not the one we see every one use to claim a false victory bases other humans miseries..!?!

    Islam and Muslims is a General Word that is divided it to many sectors that are rejecting,disputing the main Islamic doctrine... So how would we know which of those are doing what where all then blamed for some thing they knew not of...?
    Find for your self which sector could be responsible in such big conspiracy with others who hate Islam in targeting the Original Islam Doctrine and other innocent Islamic sectors...!?!

    Summaries of the major sects within Islam;
    http://contenderministries.org/islam/divisions.php

    September 7, 2011 at 7:47 pm |
  9. the prophet

    my post

    September 7, 2011 at 3:17 pm |
  10. the prophet

    Go....ntments have a purpose, people do not….maybe a legacy that’s all

    September 7, 2011 at 3:17 pm |
  11. the prophet

    Governments have a purpose, people do not….maybe a legacy that’s all

    September 7, 2011 at 3:15 pm |
  12. TheRationale

    Typos
    Typos everywhere.

    September 7, 2011 at 3:09 pm |
  13. 4 the Good

    Islam and Muslims cannot be so stupid to believe that it wasn't their religion that sparked the attacks that killed so many in America on 9/11. Shame alone should fuel change. Change should take them OUT of the required bad and put them somewhere other than being a Muslim. Weak mindedness is the only reason (and cowardess) that they remain.

    September 7, 2011 at 2:18 pm |
    • Free

      Are you claiming that no harm was ever done by people who believed they were Christians? What was it that Jesus said about first taking care of the planks in one's own eye?

      September 8, 2011 at 10:07 am |
  14. Jonathan

    Great, we're all just proving that everyone who comments on a religious article is a Jack full of A. Go Jack full of A's!!!!!

    September 7, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
    • WIlliam Demuth

      You should see a political blog.

      Makes this place look like Sunday School meets Ramadan festival street fair!

      September 7, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
  15. Awkward Situations

    "Your take: Comments on religous changes sparked by 9/11"
    By John Blake, CNN

    How long do you think it will take until they notice?

    September 7, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • Arnikowski

      They have to leave it the way it is or links to the article will not work...but they could fix it on the page itself.
      They don't, of course, because they are busy busy busy...

      September 7, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • A Theist

      It really depends on how they set up the page. A simple alteration of the link–if it is hashed or stored in a DB could allow for the change. On the other hand, if they set it up in a manner that requires manual replacement of the link in all places where they added it... then it could become a problem–especially if the link to the DB is convoluted.

      September 7, 2011 at 7:10 pm |
  16. Reality

    As previously noted and worth repeating thousands of times:

    What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon? And what drives today's 24/7 mosque/imam-planned acts of terror and horror?

    The koran, Mohammed's book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means. Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed. Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein. Until then, no female or male Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere..................................

    September 7, 2011 at 12:44 pm |
    • WIlliam Demuth

      Hey Reality, can I edit the Bible as well, seeing as much of it is obviously plagerized from other religions?

      Zoroaster called, and he wants his religion back!

      September 7, 2011 at 12:50 pm |
    • Reality

      Conservative Jews in the USA have edited the Torah to reflect the myths therein basically making it a docu-ment of peace.
      Thomas Jefferson did an analogous rewrite of the NT. Ditto for the rewrite of the NT by the Jesus Seminarians, Professor JD Crossan in his over 20 books on the historical Jesus and related subjects and Professor Gerd Ludeman in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p. 694-695.

      " Thomas Jefferson omitted it (Revelation) along with most of the Biblical canon, from the Jefferson Bible, and wrote that at one time, he considered it (Revelation) as "merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams."

      ^ Bergh: Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Vol. 16

      September 7, 2011 at 3:20 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Reality, Thomas Jefferson couldn't comprehend the Book of Revelation in the days he lived since the message is for your generation, end of days ...

      Amen.

      September 8, 2011 at 9:15 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Reality, give it a rest. Conservative Jews are what Atheists hide behind.

      Same difference.

      Amen.

      September 8, 2011 at 9:18 am |
    • Free

      I find it telling that Revelation was almost rejected from the canon because Montanists, a heretical sect, based most of their theology upon it. Sound like any sects we know operating nowadays?

      September 8, 2011 at 10:16 am |
    • HeavenSent

      WIlliam Demuth, correction. All religions were stolen from the Bible. They took 95% of Jesus' truth and spin their 5% lies to confuse everyone not to believe in Jesus.

      I'd tell you to get your facts straight, but, that doesn't seem to be on the atheists agenda while you perpetuate the lies of your ancestor Lucifer.

      Amen.

      September 8, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
    • Free

      HS
      Some trick, considering that the religious writing of some religions predates much of the Bible.

      September 8, 2011 at 7:03 pm |
    • fred

      Free
      I take it you mean that if Moses wrote Genesis in 1400BC that would be the start date of the Bible? My thought is he recorded what was given to him which included Gods word from the beginning? Man according to Moses was made in the image of God (given self awareness / soul) about 12,000 some odd years ago (or 90,000 to 250,000 if "modern man" is the base and God used evolution as a creative process). There was no other religion before that man could have copied from.

      September 8, 2011 at 7:31 pm |
    • Free

      fred
      You're not a young Earth creationist I take it? Until better evidence surfaces I'm going to stay with the standard dating of the Bible, which is substantially earlier. Besides, I did say 'much of the Bible', right? Clearly the NT wasn't written before the Buddha's time.

      September 8, 2011 at 11:33 pm |
  17. Bo

    Hey you people!!!! For the most part of this forum you were being civil, what are you going to do--let it evolve into a lot of hate and name calling? I was thinking as I was reading–it sure is nice not to have all that useless bickering. I sort of concluded: The reason that Christians and the atheist hate one another is because of all the name calling, because no one likes to be bashed and if they are they lash right back and then there is unnecessay war. The short of this is: Both sides, quit name calling! And have a good day!

    September 7, 2011 at 12:29 pm |
    • IronicMan

      Don't tell me to have a good day you #)$(@#!!!!!

      September 7, 2011 at 12:33 pm |
    • WIlliam Demuth

      Bo

      The reason for the hatred is the logic of history.

      Only ONE group can prosper. It is dog eat dog.

      And we Athiests are going to treat the waining faith that is Christianity the same way you treated all the other faiths you have purged from the Earth.

      You, what goes around comes around, and your appeal for "better relations" is nothing more than the smell of blood in the water.

      September 7, 2011 at 12:36 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      WIlliam Demuth, better put some lotion on those dry bones of yours.

      Amen.

      September 8, 2011 at 9:22 am |
    • Free

      WIlliam
      Isn't it rather unrealistic to hope for Christianity's complete demise? All we can hope for in the short term is that the destructive and judgmental characteristics currently so entrenched in American conservative believers is bred out of the next generations, allowing them to better adapt to the changing social environment. If they stubbornly refuse to evolve then those groups deserve extinction, but the different religions in general will survive the loss of these sects well enough to disown them some time in the future, as they always do with with groups that history has proven to be embarrassments.

      September 8, 2011 at 10:33 am |
    • Free

      WIlliam
      On second thought, perhaps I'm being too optimistic in thinking that the future won't see a new form of harmful religious expression rise to oppress all who refuse to join with it, as they always seem to do, but one can hope, right?

      September 8, 2011 at 11:05 am |
  18. Anton LaVey (ACTS)

    Christo-Americanism aka Christian Taliban

    September 7, 2011 at 12:20 pm |
    • WIlliam Demuth

      Actually the Taliban seem to have better teeth than most southerners.

      September 7, 2011 at 12:41 pm |
  19. the prophet

    911 was a conspiracy a self-inflicted wound to take more rights away from Americans, where are and who has the black boxes from the aircrafts?

    September 7, 2011 at 12:03 pm |
    • Matt

      The 9/11 conspiracy was a conspiracy...

      September 7, 2011 at 12:06 pm |
    • WIlliam Demuth

      Suffer from much paranoia?

      I mean REAAALLLLYYYY, get some meds, before the black choppers get you!

      September 7, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
    • Bin There Aladdin

      Who needs a conspiracy when there are so many psychotic idiots willing to do things on their own?

      September 7, 2011 at 12:35 pm |
  20. The Runs

    Atheists seem to be less tolerant than the religious people they rail so hard against......just look at their comments on the message boards. Oh ye hypocrites lol.

    September 7, 2011 at 11:56 am |
    • Awkward Situations

      Why should I tolerate illegitimate insti_tutions with a history of violating basic human rights and freedoms? A tradition they carry forward into the modern age?

      September 7, 2011 at 12:06 pm |
    • WIlliam Demuth

      Less tolerant?

      Tell that to the gays, or the Jews, or the Muslims, or the Communists, or the poor, or the weak, or the soldiers.

      The idea of a Tolerant Cult Of Christ is so ridiculos as to be sublime!

      We know your cult, and we have seen your works.

      September 7, 2011 at 12:07 pm |
    • The Runs

      @william – Yes tell it to the poor, whom multiple Christian charities help out, whose churches provide food for them. Drove by a park known for homeless people the other day and know what I saw? A church van passing out food to them.

      Yes tell it to the soldiers, who have chaplains (of all faiths) there to provide spiritual guidance during their hardships.

      What has your local atheist organization done lately? You're one sick deluded person, nice try though.

      September 7, 2011 at 12:27 pm |
    • The Runs

      Tell it to the gays, whom multiple churches welcome with open arms.
      Tell it to the Jews, who almost all Christians support them and their state of Israel.

      Not my fault you selectively choose the fringes of Christianity to support your own biased belief, all the while accusing eveyone else of doing the same. As I said before, you are a hypocrite and just proved it.

      September 7, 2011 at 12:29 pm |
    • WIlliam Demuth

      The Runs

      Speak to some minorities.

      The soldiers you send to wars you have no intention of winning. The gays you dehumanize, the children you teach to hate, the outsiders you condemn, the old ladies you defraud and the altar boys you bugger.

      In case you are insulated from it I can assure you, you are hated.

      Don't be surprised when the ice cracks and you find your fellow Christians FINALLY being held accoutable.

      September 7, 2011 at 12:40 pm |
    • Get rid of the runs

      The poor are not helped by Christians as much as they are oppressed by snooty Christians who love them because it gives them someone to look down upon.
      The soldiers are not spiritually guided by their religious leaders into doing good works.
      The LGBTs are not welcomed as much as they are vilified by Christians. The ratio is like a thousand to one on being accepted.
      More Jews have been killed by Christians than the other way around – and it was due to Christian beliefs.
      You are diarrhea.

      September 7, 2011 at 12:42 pm |
    • WIlliam Demuth

      The Runs

      I also suggest you chech with the CEO's of some companies.

      They would gladly hand out some Cheetos to the Hobos if they didn't get taxed on a trillion in income like your supposedly honorable churches.

      Steal a poor mans loaf of bread and call it charity to hand back a slice?

      Only a Christian might be so full of it!

      September 7, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
    • Sporkify

      Yes, we're so intolerant we terrorize and kill those with differing belief systems, legislate our antiquated morality into the nation's legislature, and discriminate and demonize anyone remotely different from us.

      OH WAIT that's you nutjobs. Keep it up Christianity, your cult is dying. Can you hear your children turning atheist?

      September 7, 2011 at 3:00 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Awkward Situations, wake up buddy. You only have rights when you can pay for them in court. Other than that, the dry bones in this world will walk all over you and your so called rights.

      Save your money for that rainy day.

      Amen.

      September 8, 2011 at 9:25 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Get rid of the runs, I suppose you read that somewhere (LOL).

      Amen.

      September 8, 2011 at 9:28 am |
    • SemperFideliS15486372

      Yeeahhh I dont remember the last time athiests caused a 9/11, OR The Crusades OR The Spanish inquisition... kiss my ass.

      September 8, 2011 at 10:16 am |
    • Free

      HS
      You assume that our lives are dead, full of 'dry bones', but that's really much more of a straw man fallacy than atheists calling Christians 'haters', because some of you really do appear to hate a lot of people. You may not have intended it to come off like that, but it has. Like anything, many of you have turned you faith, and the belief that you MUST be right if you think you are following God's word, into an ego trip where you really don't seem to care who you hurt. It's reckless, and unnecessary.

      September 8, 2011 at 11:21 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Free, if you are referring to the comment about the 'RUNS', that was the phony heavensent using my handle. She loves to chaos chaos as she steals handles when she hates someone's comments to one of her many phony handles.

      Amen.

      September 8, 2011 at 3:34 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Semper, do you seriously believe this illusion? Atheists are behind every conflict in the world pretending to be one of those that start the war. It's called divide and conquer.

      Amen.

      September 8, 2011 at 3:37 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Actually, Free, dry bones, wells without water, spiritually dead is what is written in Jesus' truth. Non-believers only know the words LOVE, COMPASSION, CHARITY, HOPE etc. They can't feel what these words mean. Actually, the only thing they feel is frustration for not getting their own way and assume they truly know the rest. It's when they come out of the dark of following satan, trust and abide in the Lord is when they grow into these experience.

      As for the Wizard of Oz, it is a take off of the Bible.

      Amen.

      September 8, 2011 at 3:41 pm |
    • captain america

      @semper...
      Did you miss ALL the atheistic communist aggression over the last century?You are one sorry excuse for an American!

      September 8, 2011 at 7:20 pm |
    • Free

      HeavenSent
      I know what's written in the Bible, I just can't see where you could assume that it referred to us andy more than to hypocritical folks claiming to be true believers, for example. Your book tells you what we must be like, but your eyes tell you a different story. At least they would if you bothered to look like more and more people are these days. The face of atheism is being revealed as normal people with morals like anybody else, but why bother to look at that when you already know what the only acceptable answer for you is, right? Are you always going to keep your head buried in the sand?

      "As for the Wizard of Oz, it is a take off of the Bible."
      Yes, a rather satirical one, but good nonetheless.

      September 8, 2011 at 7:20 pm |
    • Free

      captain america
      If you want to call communist aggression 'atheist' in nature then it's just as fair to call Nazi aggression 'Christian' in nature, right?

      September 8, 2011 at 7:31 pm |
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