My Take: Jesus would support Palestinian statehood bid
The author argues that Jesus was primarily a peacemaker.
September 21st, 2011
12:27 PM ET

My Take: Jesus would support Palestinian statehood bid

Editor's Note: Carl Medearis is an international expert in Arab-American and Muslim-Christian relations and is author of the book Speaking of Jesus: The Art of Not-Evangelism.

By Carl Medearis, Special to CNN

This week at the United Nations, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has promised to ask for recognition of a Palestinian state. If he does, the United States will veto. Why?

Largely because of something we'll call Christian Zionism, an American theological movement that preaches a Christian obligation to help Jews reclaim the biblical Promised Land.

I travel constantly, speaking about the Middle East to evangelical Christians across America and Europe. I lived in Lebanon for 12 years and churches invite me to talk about how to love their Muslim neighbors.

Often before I get invited to speak at churches and Christian conferences, I go through an awkward period of questioning, an interview that feels more like an interrogation.

Pastors and conference leaders want to size me up to make sure I’m “safe” for Christian audiences. The interrogation usually goes something like this:

“Carl, we love your books and your message. You have a lot of insight on how Christians can be more Jesus-like to our Middle Eastern neighbors. We hope you’ll talk a lot about that!”

Translation: Please, for the love of God, don’t say anything controversial about Israel or the Palestinians.

Though they are too polite to ask, what those pastors and conference leaders want to know is what is my position on Israel. For them, the modern Jewish state is a direct fulfillment of Bible prophecy, the catalyst for a series of events that will culminate in the return of Jesus.

As the Palestinians press ahead in their bid for statehood, prepare to hear from this crowd. These Christians number in the tens of millions and they go into a state of frenzy every time a politician so much as winks at the idea of Israel giving up a few settlements or withdrawing to pre-1967 borders.

They’ll tell you their concern has nothing to do with their particular interpretation of the Bible and everything to do with America and Israel’s national security interests.

Don’t believe a word of it.

When it comes to U.S. policy on Israel and the Middle East, Christian Zionism is the elephant in the room.

Christian Zionists believe that when God told Abraham 4,000 years ago, “I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you” he was making a promise that extends to the modern state of Israel. Any nation that “curses” Israel will face God’s judgment.

Not all evangelical Christians believe this, but the ones that do are the loudest voices in the media, and they lead huge organizations.

Television evangelists like Pat Robertson and John Hagee mobilize millions of Christians every year to write to their congressmen demanding that Israel be allowed to expand settlements indefinitely. They seem to oppose every peace deal that comes to the table.

There’s a reason for this. In their minds, the modern Israeli state is not only a fulfillment of biblical prophesy. In a bizarre twist that leaves most outsiders dumbfounded, Christian Zionists say the Bible predicts that Jews and Palestinians will forever be at war until Jesus returns.

They say the only person that will bring peace before the end of the age is—wait for it—the devil, in the form of the anti-Christ.

When you hear some Christian politicians say, “The land belongs to Israel”, what they’re really saying is if America blesses Israel – that is, if it gives uncritical support to the Jewish state - God will bless America. If America curses Israel, God will curse America.

When it comes to Israel and her neighbors, many Christian Zionists believe that peacemaking is the devil’s work.

They may forget that it was Jesus who said, “Blessed are the peacemakers."

One of the reasons Jesus was crucified was because of his refusal to embrace a nationalist agenda. But Christian Zionism blesses military action by the modern state of Israel, under the banner of "national security," including the demolition of Palestinian homes to pave the way for new settlements.

So how would Jesus vote this week if he had a seat at the U.N.?

Surely love, compassion, justice and peace-making would top his lists of concerns for all involved. Maybe he would give a new parable - the Parable of the Good Palestinian - offending all who would hear.

Rather than allowing obscure Old Testament promises to dictate our foreign policy, what if we stuck to the clear commands of God - love your neighbor, your enemy and the foreigner in your midst - which appear in Exodus, Leviticus and three of the four gospels.

Many Christians in America think of Jews and Christians as “us” and anything that sounds Muslim or Arab as “the other.” But the call of Jesus is to be more loving towards the “other” than towards the people we think of as “us.”

This command works both ways. When I’ve had audiences with leaders in the Hezbollah or Hamas, I tell them the same thing: That Jesus said to love your enemies. Who are your enemies? Israel.

It’s true that there are elements of Palestinian society that do not want peace, no matter the price. They need to be isolated and dealt with.

The same goes for elements of Israeli society that don’t want peace. The good news is that extremists are a minority on both sides of the conflict.

People ask me all the time what I think about Israel and end-times theology, and how the Palestinians factor into that.
Here’s my answer: If your end-times theology trumps the clear commands in Scripture to love neighbors and enemies, then its time to rethink your theology.

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  1. Barry

    "But Christian Zionism blesses military action by the modern state of Israel, under the banner of "national security," including the demolition of Palestinian homes to pave the way for new settlements."

    Outright fabrication that Carl Medearis has snuck in his Jesus love your neighbor piece!

    Israel has recently demolished settler homes on the West Bank not Arab homes for settlements! Israel is the only Democracy in the Middle East. Ask any Arab-Israeli if they want to be governed by the Palestinian Authority and see what they say! Why do all the Arabs of East Jerusalem cherish their Israeli Citizenship??? Do you really think they would want to be ruled by the corrupt PA or murderous Hamas??? Not!

    There will never be peace until the Arabs love their own children as much as they hate the Jews! Not in our lifetime!

    September 21, 2011 at 10:09 pm |
  2. Brown E

    It appears that Carl's arrogant conclusions come solely from his own experiences and little from scripture. The perfect example of Carl's ignorance in God, Jesus, Christians, and the Bible is apparent in his delivered question at the end of his wrant, "so how would Jesus vote this week if he had a seat at the U.N.?" First, if you are a Christian and believe in Jesus, the question is rediculous...for Jesus will not be voting but ruling. Second, if you don't believe in Jesus, what is the purpose of the question to begin with, other than to simply use the Christian faith as your sarcastic podium.

    Through devine guidance, the Bible provides historical, real-time, and near future accounts of what was, what is, and what will be, according to God...not man. The issues between Israel and Palestine are not the makings of men, but evil. These issues have been fortold within the Bible itself. It is true that many will fall victim to the events of end times, no matter what they believe. Israel is no different. They will fall victim to these same events and will suffer immensely before the coming of Jesus. We are not the author of time and cannot claim to know the mystery of God and his intentions...but, God has given us clear warning of what is to come and where are heart should be. But, God also has made it clear who his people are, which has never changed througout time. So, why would it be out of the ordinary or preposterous for a God loving and Bible believing Christian to stand up for Isreal? By the way, their are God loving and Bible believing Christians in every country in the world.

    Lastly, for Carl...it is obvious that you have not read the Bible in an attempt to gain wisdom, but only to sound-bite scripture, and minimum scripture at that, to publish your ignorant theories of the Christian heart and mind. We can only hope that the fact that you have mouthed off about this issue leads those who are seaking the truth to the Bible where it is found.

    September 21, 2011 at 10:08 pm |
  3. valwayne

    Jesus would support a statehood bid by the coalition of the Palestinian authority and Hamas? A terrorist organization dedicated to the destruction of the state of Israel and the death of ever Jewish man, woman, child, and baby in Israel. He would support statehood for people who send suicide bombers into Israel to blow up buses and restraunts fool of innocent people? Mr Medearis clearly has no concept of what Jesus was about? What a piece of slime!

    September 21, 2011 at 10:08 pm |
    • Grey, Atlanta

      Actually, I believe that Jesus would in fact support a terrorist state that would destroy the modern State of Israel, just so that the point Jesus made 2,000 years ago would come true. Palestinians are the only hope for Christianity to prove its authenticity in this century, just like Hitler was the only hope in the last century. Fortunately, these hopes will never materialize.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:13 pm |
    • John

      Jesus would support the plight of the oppressed and not those killing in his name

      September 21, 2011 at 10:16 pm |
    • Bob Bales

      Neither Hitler nor the Palestinians prove anything at all about Christianity.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:30 pm |
    • Grey, Atlanta

      1 Thessalonians 2:14-16

      You suffered from your own countrymen the same things those churches suffered from the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to all men in their effort to keep us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved. In this way they always heap up their sins to the limit. The wrath of God has come upon them at last.

      Matthew 23:35 (also Lk 11:50-51)
      And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.

      Tell me that Christianity is not anti-Semitic; that’s on top of all the fraudulent claims it makes about the Messiah having to be born from a virgin, being a son of G-d (literally) by having G-d fathered him together with a virgin, failing to fulfill the Messianic prophesies (the first time around), dying, and then given a second chance for fulfilling a Messianic prophecies, aka “second coming,” claiming that sins can only be atoned for by blood, which is a complete distortion of Judaism based on tampering with the original Hebrew text, making claims that a human sacrifice of the Messiah is the only possible (and vicarious) sacrifice that atones for all present and future sins of other humans, etc.

      The New Testament is a ridiculous collection of unsubstantiated claims sometimes based on ignorance and other times based on fraud committed by going back to the Hebrew Bible and tampering with the original text. Therefore, the so called “fulfillment” of the Messianic prophecies by Jesus are achieved by shameless additions, deletions, and intentional mis-translations of the original statements made by the Prophets.

      I wish I were making this up. Need details? Go to OUTREACHJUDAISM dot ORG and click on LET”S GET BIBLICAL. This is the journey of truth that those who seek the truth will enjoy. For the rest of Christians, don’t even bother going there. Live your happy lives believing in the false Messiah and continue sinning, thinking that his blood will wash away your sins.

      September 22, 2011 at 6:10 am |
  4. Grey, Atlanta

    Jesus (if he ever existed) betrayed the religion of his forefathers and lay some outrageous claims to being fathered by G-d. He and his followers claimed that vicarious sacrifice is the only way to atone for ones sins, and that G-d will not accept any human unless he/she believes in Jesus. If Jesus never made these claims, then the whole story was made up a few hundred years later. The New Testament is a collections of incoherent contradictory writings by unknown authors. If Jesus ever existed and really made all those statement, I would not be surprised if he in fact supported the Palestinian State. The New Testament is replete with pretty outrageous anti-Semitic statements, and if they are based in the original teachings of Jesus, then Jesus was a self-hating Jew just like Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein. Regardless of the authenticity of the ideas ascribed to Jesus in the New Testament, Christianity is a made-up religion – either by the founder or by the followers. There is not a grain of truth in it, and the 2,000 years of waiting for the “second coming” is the best proof of this. There is not such a thing as a “second coming” of a Messiah in Judaism, and neither there is such a thing as Messiah dying. Additionally, there is no such thing as Messiah being born of a virgin (that was actually a requirement for being a pagan god), no such thing as a human sacrifice, no such thing as “drinking blood” for communion, etc. All of those are elements of paganism that existed in areas abutting Israel, but never existed in Judaism. It’s hard to believe that Jesus, being a Jew, would have come up with this nonsense. Most likely, it was his Gentile followers several decades or even centuries after his death who came up with these “progressive” ideas. Finally, who gives a d@mn if Jesus would or would not support the Palestinian State? Not me.

    September 21, 2011 at 10:07 pm |
    • Brian

      Grey, what facts are you drawing on to come to such far-fetch conclusions? If you quoted the Bible to substantiate your position is one thing...but most of what you're saying is out in left field if not entirely out of the ballpark.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:20 pm |
    • Grey, Atlanta

      Brian, Bible study in a Christian Church is like being taught reading in a kindergarten. Torah study with an Orthodox Rabbi is like doing a doctorate degree in an Ivy League school. You cannot comprehend complex issues until you are prepared to understand them. Your knowledge of the Bible is not even scratching the surface. You do not even realize how deep the Bible is, and how many layers you can peel off and never get to the bottom of it. Your pastor cannot even read Hebrew at a first-grade level. Your pastor teaches you what he was taught at a Christian seminary (if that) or even over a correspondence course. Your pastor’s teachers could not read Hebrew either. And neither their teachers. They are reading an English translation made by someone whose native language is not Hebrew. This goes back 2,000 years. Christianity is a bunch of misconceptions, misinterpretations and intentional tampering with the original Hebrew texts in the Tanakh. The New Testament is no more credible than the Book of Mormon – the same off-the-wall ideas and unsubstantiated claims. The knowledge of the truth is out there. It is available for those who seek the truth. For the rest of you, ignorance is bliss. Judaism is hard work, Christianity is a happy-go-lucky cake walk. How can one blame the masses who choose the path of least resistance?

      September 21, 2011 at 10:38 pm |
    • Bob Bales

      The Messiah's being born of a virgin (Isiah 7:14), suffering and dying (Isiah 53), and coming are foretold in the Old Testament.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:48 pm |
    • Bob Bales

      Many Christian pastors and teachers can indeed read Hebrew. And if the New Testament is nonsense, why did Jesus's followers continue to proclaim to their deaths, what they would have known was false? More importantly, how did they convince others, who knew the facts to join them?

      September 21, 2011 at 10:55 pm |
    • Flash

      Grey, Atlanta,

      It's quite interesting that an omniscient "God" speaks only ancient Hebrew!

      Without any verified evidence of supernatural, it's almost like they made him up to suit their own purposes...

      September 21, 2011 at 10:55 pm |
    • Flash

      Bob Bales,

      Don't you think that those 1st century evangelists who wrote the stories KNEW about those old-timey prophecies?

      September 21, 2011 at 10:58 pm |
    • Grey, Atlanta

      @Bob Bales: I am glad you mentioned this because the so called “prophecy” in Isaiah 53 about the Messiah being born from a virgin is one of the examples of the tampering with the original Hebrew texts made by the Christian. The true Isaiah 53 in the Hebrew Bibile (Tanakh) makes no such claims. In fact, the true translation is “young woman” and not “virgin”. Additionally, the prophecy is not about the Messiah but about the daughter of Isaiah having a child whose name will be Emmanuel. The prophecy was given to the King of Judah to assure him that the enemies at the gate of Jerusalem will not destroy his kingdom. The prophecy is for the near future, which the king of Judah would witness with his own eyes, and not for five centuries in the future (when Jesus would be born) so that no one living at the time of the prophecy would ever be able to witness its fulfillment.

      This is just one example of how outrageous the tampering with the original Hebrew text is. The only way to allow Jesus to fulfill the “prophecies” of the Hebrew Bible, is to modify the Hebrew Bible.

      I wish I were making this up. Go to OUTREACHJUDAISM dot ORG and click on LET’S GET BIBLICAL if you are interested in learning the truth about the the original text in prophecies and all the fraud that the Christianity committed on the original Hebrew Bible by shamelessly changing entire sentences in Hebrew, replacing certain words in Hebrew, and making incorrect translations into Greek, English, and other languages.

      September 22, 2011 at 6:21 am |
    • Grey, Atlanta

      @Flash: Wether or not the original Hebrew Bible is the truth or a human creation is the question that no one will ever be able to prove or disprove. That’s a matter of faith. However, at least, there are no inconsistencies in it. It is a very strong and coherent system of beliefs that has served as a moral compass for four three thousand years. Judaism, in fact, claims that Hebrew is the language of G-d. It’s the language that G-d spoke to Abraham. And the notion of “chosen people” means that G-d selected Abraham and his descendants to tell the other humans about the concept of one G-d as opposed to the pagan belief in many gods. It’s is completely up to every individual to believe or not to believe in this. In fact, in the modern Judaism, there are denominations like Reform Judaism and even some Conservative Judaism who no longer hold beliefs that the Hebrew Bible was inspired by G-d, and reject most of its claims (such as the veracity of the Exodus, etc.). Orthodox Judaism adheres to the teachings of the Tanakh (the Hebrew Bible) and the Talmud (the Oral Tradition later codified to prevent it from being lost during the exile).

      Christianity, on the other hand, is a collection of incoherent texts contradicting one another and written by unknown authors; unsubstantiated claims based on misconceptions about the Judaism, intentional tampering with the original Hebrew Bible, and other fraudulent activities.

      If you choose not to believe in G-d, it’s your choice. Believing in Jesus, though, is not even exercising your choice. It’s just following in the footsteps of the ignorant and the lazy.

      September 22, 2011 at 6:32 am |
    • Grey, Atlanta

      @ Bob Bales: As to your question why Christianity is flourishing two thousand years later, I only have one answer. Why is Islam flourishing 1400 years after Muhammed died? The number of Christians in the world is roughly equal to the number of Muslims. The strength is never in the numbers when it comes to the belief in the true G-d.

      Regarding to many pastors being able to read the Hebrew Bible in Hebrew and understand it – it’s a complete and utter nonsense. I challenge you to find such a pastor. You can literally count Christian pastors able to do that them all on the fingers of one hand. Once an Orthodox Rabbi told me that his 5-year-old son had a better knowledge of the Hebrew Bible than any Christian pastor with a doctorate degree in Divinity that the Rabbi had met in his entire life.

      The sad part is that you have no idea how shallow Christianity is. If Judaism were nuclear physics, you would never want a Christian to get within a mile-wide radius to the nuclear reactor lest he/she should cause a nuclear disaster by applying their “knowledge”.

      September 22, 2011 at 6:46 am |
  5. elizabethlynne

    This article is factually incorrect, totally disregarding the history that has led to this conflict, a history that is very easily understood by using original sources from 1948 to the present. Would Jesus really support terrorists who constantly target the Israeli citizens? Who murder Israeli babies and children on purpose not accidently.
    CNN is sinking to new lows in publishing this article, which is frankly false and insane.

    September 21, 2011 at 10:06 pm |
    • clyde

      Shut up...a few jews babies r nothing compared to the millions you terrorist (american, brittain and israel kills)...dumb a$$ eliza u uneducated and unemployed immigrant.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:12 pm |
    • peytonforpresident

      i agree with your post. The respondant is obvious as moronic as he claims others to be. His tone, demeanor, and BS post is evident of it.

      Good post. Keep the faith

      September 21, 2011 at 10:18 pm |
    • peytonforpresident

      im sorry Eliza for not being clearer. Your post was good. Please keep your faith. Clyde is the moron, as evident by his post.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:20 pm |
    • Lawrence

      Actually, elizabethlynne, this article is exactly correct. What's more, it didn't go far enough to explain the ultimate purpose of Christian Zionism: the complete annihilation of the Jewish people in the Armageddon that would wipe out all the Jews save for 144,000 who would be given the choice to accept Jesus or burn in the 'lake of fire.'


      I understand why this author held back on this point (he still has to make a living, etc.), but the truth of Christian Zionism is readily available for anyone who wants to seek it out.


      Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Senator Joseph Lieberman both support John Hagee's Christian Zionist movement not because they agree with their supernatural ends in the hereafter, but rather because they see Hagee and his followers as useful idiots in the here and now to strengthen Israel's position.


      September 21, 2011 at 10:37 pm |
    • Bob Bales

      Christian Zionism - in general - does not envision the complete destruction of the Jews at Armageddon. Rather, at Armageddon, God intervenes to save the Jews from destruction.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:59 pm |
  6. hawaiiduude

    John 8:44 and Jeremiah 9. Nuf said.

    September 21, 2011 at 10:05 pm |
    • Al

      Leviticus 3, Deuteronomy 4, Jackson 5.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:15 pm |
  7. kumarswamy

    Christian Zionism seems to have Evil and worst Darker side. While many sane and rational people can understand that, i am surprised even the sensible political class is behind the mess. If politics goes by with the loudest from the crowd, they might very well misreading the rest of the population. If american foreign policy is dicted by Blind faiths and Beliefs, no wonder "god only can save" america, not these humans or politicians.

    September 21, 2011 at 10:05 pm |
    • peytonforpresident

      wow. What a blanket piece of opinionated garbage that is. Rather than spewing hate, try backing your smack.

      American Zionism is evil and "worst" dark side? what a crock. Try reality sometime. It's REALLY cool!

      September 21, 2011 at 10:23 pm |
  8. Question


    We see you are in the islamic camp did you ask yourself what Allah would do?

    September 21, 2011 at 10:05 pm |
  9. Carlisahater

    "including the demolition of Palestinian homes to pave the way for new settlements." I challenge Carl to please post a reference to where such a scenario happened. The reference will not be posted because it hasn't happened. \

    September 21, 2011 at 10:05 pm |
  10. dexter morgan

    Leave Jesus out of this, but pray for both sides.

    September 21, 2011 at 10:05 pm |
  11. Huh?

    I think Jesus would back the Palestinians if they engaged in non-violent protests which is clearly impossible for them. You've got it totally wrong Medearis, but it doesn't surprise me given you're writing for CNN.

    September 21, 2011 at 10:05 pm |
  12. Jews for Jesus or GOOD BYE!

    For the Christians in United States, do you know how many Palestinians and Arab Christians were killed by Israelis? Do you think Israelis care about the Christians? Also, ask the Jews if they believe in Jesus? No they don’t. Go Christians and protect the people who don’t believe in you or in your God!!!! What a Joke!!!

    Well said!

    September 21, 2011 at 10:04 pm |
    • peytonforpresident

      um Arabs & Muslims dont believe in Jesus as the messiah. So your analogy is false. Islam preaches that Jesus was merely a prophet, the same as the Jewish faith. So, the analogy is merely the same. Your antagonistic comparison is false.

      You then rant about our God. Hate to break this to you, but Islam, Christians, and Jews believe their God is the same God, just different names according to the faith. The differences in the faiths is how you get there, and what God stands for. So your heretical rant is false too.

      I ask one question. Has Mohammed ever step his earthly feet in Jerusalem? No, not in a dream. In real life. The answer is no. Only in his dream aka vision did he walk to Jerusalem.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:12 pm |
  13. Zod

    Zod approves of Palestinians too. Kneel before Zod!

    September 21, 2011 at 10:04 pm |
  14. sybaris

    Big Butter Jeeeee-sus

    September 21, 2011 at 10:03 pm |
  15. Annmarie

    Wow Carl, you don't understand the Bible at all! The Anti-Christ doesn't bring "peace". He tricks Israelis and others into believing he is a man of peace, and then he turns on them. In other words, he will present himself as a peace broker but will really be a wolf in sheep's clothing
    How can you be so clueless as to not understand that Jesus was a Jew? God chose the Jews. The Messiah (Christ) came from the Jews. The Bible came from the Jews. Salvation comes from the Jewish Messiah, Jesus the Christ.
    You better get your act together soon, otherwise God may give you over to the coming delusion.

    September 21, 2011 at 10:03 pm |
  16. peytonforpresident

    While i agree and believe that Jesus would want the Palestinians & the Israeli's to love each other as caring neighbors, i just dont believe Jesus would support the Palestinians firing rockets into Israel daily, and suicide bombers targeting non-military targets.

    While Israel reactively incurs into the Gaza strip to thwart bomb making facilities, weapons smugglers, terrorist safehouses, and those that harbor them, i dont believe the Israeli military actively and willfully targets non-military targets.

    One targets the innocents, the other pursue's the terrorists & weapons.

    I dont believe Jesus would elevate and support the Palestinian cause.

    September 21, 2011 at 10:02 pm |
  17. Peikovian

    It really depends on whether or not Jesus is a fan of secular elected republics or if he would rather see violent theocracies throughout the world. There is some debate concerning what he thought the 21st Century would look like. In Matthew 24:34 he is quoted to the effect that the world would end twenty centuries ago during that generation's lifetime.

    September 21, 2011 at 10:01 pm |
  18. Jesus

    You idiots – I can't believe I gave my life for you morons! If me and Mohamed can have a beer as friens in heaven, why can't you idiots on Earth get along?!!?

    September 21, 2011 at 10:01 pm |
  19. Clayton Farrell

    When JESUS returns, He will set up His Jewish/Christian Kingdom with Jerusalm as the capital. No mention of Arabs with their pagan god and false prophet. The coming war will determine this fact. There will no such state as Palistine. Just Israel.
    Thank you

    September 21, 2011 at 10:01 pm |
    • Grey, Atlanta

      Sorry, buddy. That’s a huge IF. In your dreams, maybe.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:18 pm |
  20. Rick

    What part would Jesus back? The hate taught since birth? The indiscriminate rocket fire? You might want to try reading your Bible again.

    September 21, 2011 at 10:01 pm |
    • Charles

      Well said, Rick.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:03 pm |
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