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My Take: Jesus would support Palestinian statehood bid
The author argues that Jesus was primarily a peacemaker.
September 21st, 2011
12:27 PM ET

My Take: Jesus would support Palestinian statehood bid

Editor's Note: Carl Medearis is an international expert in Arab-American and Muslim-Christian relations and is author of the book Speaking of Jesus: The Art of Not-Evangelism.

By Carl Medearis, Special to CNN

This week at the United Nations, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has promised to ask for recognition of a Palestinian state. If he does, the United States will veto. Why?

Largely because of something we'll call Christian Zionism, an American theological movement that preaches a Christian obligation to help Jews reclaim the biblical Promised Land.

I travel constantly, speaking about the Middle East to evangelical Christians across America and Europe. I lived in Lebanon for 12 years and churches invite me to talk about how to love their Muslim neighbors.

Often before I get invited to speak at churches and Christian conferences, I go through an awkward period of questioning, an interview that feels more like an interrogation.

Pastors and conference leaders want to size me up to make sure I’m “safe” for Christian audiences. The interrogation usually goes something like this:

“Carl, we love your books and your message. You have a lot of insight on how Christians can be more Jesus-like to our Middle Eastern neighbors. We hope you’ll talk a lot about that!”

Translation: Please, for the love of God, don’t say anything controversial about Israel or the Palestinians.

Though they are too polite to ask, what those pastors and conference leaders want to know is what is my position on Israel. For them, the modern Jewish state is a direct fulfillment of Bible prophecy, the catalyst for a series of events that will culminate in the return of Jesus.

As the Palestinians press ahead in their bid for statehood, prepare to hear from this crowd. These Christians number in the tens of millions and they go into a state of frenzy every time a politician so much as winks at the idea of Israel giving up a few settlements or withdrawing to pre-1967 borders.

They’ll tell you their concern has nothing to do with their particular interpretation of the Bible and everything to do with America and Israel’s national security interests.

Don’t believe a word of it.

When it comes to U.S. policy on Israel and the Middle East, Christian Zionism is the elephant in the room.

Christian Zionists believe that when God told Abraham 4,000 years ago, “I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you” he was making a promise that extends to the modern state of Israel. Any nation that “curses” Israel will face God’s judgment.

Not all evangelical Christians believe this, but the ones that do are the loudest voices in the media, and they lead huge organizations.

Television evangelists like Pat Robertson and John Hagee mobilize millions of Christians every year to write to their congressmen demanding that Israel be allowed to expand settlements indefinitely. They seem to oppose every peace deal that comes to the table.

There’s a reason for this. In their minds, the modern Israeli state is not only a fulfillment of biblical prophesy. In a bizarre twist that leaves most outsiders dumbfounded, Christian Zionists say the Bible predicts that Jews and Palestinians will forever be at war until Jesus returns.

They say the only person that will bring peace before the end of the age is—wait for it—the devil, in the form of the anti-Christ.

When you hear some Christian politicians say, “The land belongs to Israel”, what they’re really saying is if America blesses Israel – that is, if it gives uncritical support to the Jewish state - God will bless America. If America curses Israel, God will curse America.

When it comes to Israel and her neighbors, many Christian Zionists believe that peacemaking is the devil’s work.

They may forget that it was Jesus who said, “Blessed are the peacemakers."

One of the reasons Jesus was crucified was because of his refusal to embrace a nationalist agenda. But Christian Zionism blesses military action by the modern state of Israel, under the banner of "national security," including the demolition of Palestinian homes to pave the way for new settlements.

So how would Jesus vote this week if he had a seat at the U.N.?

Surely love, compassion, justice and peace-making would top his lists of concerns for all involved. Maybe he would give a new parable - the Parable of the Good Palestinian - offending all who would hear.

Rather than allowing obscure Old Testament promises to dictate our foreign policy, what if we stuck to the clear commands of God - love your neighbor, your enemy and the foreigner in your midst - which appear in Exodus, Leviticus and three of the four gospels.

Many Christians in America think of Jews and Christians as “us” and anything that sounds Muslim or Arab as “the other.” But the call of Jesus is to be more loving towards the “other” than towards the people we think of as “us.”

This command works both ways. When I’ve had audiences with leaders in the Hezbollah or Hamas, I tell them the same thing: That Jesus said to love your enemies. Who are your enemies? Israel.

It’s true that there are elements of Palestinian society that do not want peace, no matter the price. They need to be isolated and dealt with.

The same goes for elements of Israeli society that don’t want peace. The good news is that extremists are a minority on both sides of the conflict.

People ask me all the time what I think about Israel and end-times theology, and how the Palestinians factor into that.
Here’s my answer: If your end-times theology trumps the clear commands in Scripture to love neighbors and enemies, then its time to rethink your theology.

- CNN Belief Blog

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  1. Chad

    Want peace in the middle east? Ask your self these two SIMPLE QUESTIONS:

    – If Israel unilaterally disarmed itself tomorrow, what would happen?
    – If every Palestinian disarmed themselves tomorrow, what would happen?

    Answer: If Israel disarmed, they would be annihilated in 24-48 hours, every last one of them. If Palestinians disarmed, nothing would happen, peace in the area.

    Until we publicly acknowledge what we all privately know to be true, we'll never be addressing the real root cause of the problems in the area.

    September 22, 2011 at 7:53 am |
    • sumo

      There is too much deceit in the actions of the Arabs and it has shown in its ugly face in the past and conitnues so today...

      September 22, 2011 at 10:17 am |
  2. Kebos

    I long for the day when humans can be just that and not tagged with one religion or another. What we all share biologically, how we all live, the dreams and aspirations we all have, much is all the same. Then along comes a work of fiction in the clothing of something mysterious and "sacred" to spoil it all. That is religion.

    Abraham and all the major figures of the bible were highly likely demented people with some psychological disorder to make them believe they saw things or heard voices that were not there. And then the whitewash of time where these stories were passed down over generations to be modified and twisted to become the fiction that they are today.

    I long for the day when mankind can throw away the crutches of religion and stand on their own two feet, shoulder to shoulder in support of each other. To be truly human.

    September 22, 2011 at 7:46 am |
    • Paul

      Humans are made in the image of God. So to renounce God at to claim to stand alone is to be inhuman. Standing in relationship to God the way God desires, which is through a relationship with Jesus Christ is to be on the path to becoming fully human.

      September 22, 2011 at 8:03 am |
    • Kebos

      Your circular logic excludes a few billion people from being human. Trust me, I am fully human.

      Sidenote: if we humans were made in the image of god then I have a few suggestions for ways to improve on the original design. I mean, the first release was a pretty good start but there is room for improvement. Or perhaps we could just let the real designer, evolution, take care of that for us.

      September 22, 2011 at 8:17 am |
    • think for yourself

      Paul was kind of close. He at least had the right words in the first sentence, just not in the correct order: Gods are made in the image of humans.

      September 22, 2011 at 8:26 am |
    • haha

      Yep. We were made in his image Because god is a hairless ape.

      September 22, 2011 at 8:57 am |
  3. sum it up

    Religion is not necessary to have good ethics or lead an altruistic lifestlye. Quite possibly just the opposite is preferable.

    September 22, 2011 at 7:22 am |
  4. Reality

    Actually, Jesus was a bit "touched". After all he thought he spoke to Satan, thought he changed water into wine, thought he raised Lazarus from the dead etc. In today's world, said Jesus would be declared legally insane.
    Or did P, M, M, L and J simply make him into a first century magic-man via their epistles and gospels of semi-fiction? Most contemporary NT experts after thorough analyses of all the scriptures go with the latter magic-man conclusion with J's gospels being mostly fiction.
    Obviously, today's followers of Paul et al's "magic-man" are also a bit on the odd side believing in all the Christian mumbo jumbo about bodies resurrecting, and exorcisms, and miracles, and "magic-man atonement, and infallible, old, European/Utah, white men, and 24/7 body/blood sacrifices followed by consumption of said sacrifices. Yummy!!!!

    So why do we really care what a first century CE, illiterate, long-dead, preacher man would do or say?
    ==============================================================================

    September 22, 2011 at 7:09 am |
    • Kebos

      Reality – Good post.

      September 22, 2011 at 7:49 am |
    • witnesses stand to differ with your statement

      The acts of Jesus in the NT were witnessed by countless people, a truth that cannot be denied. Many courts only require one or two to convict, but there would be no doubt if 12 or more came forward and presented the same story one at a time. Simply because you were not there to witness it does not make it magical or unreal.

      You are also wrong to say that modern NT experts all believe that Jesus was a lunatic and/or a magician. Where are you basing this wild claim from? If any NT "expert" claims this, they are in an extreme minority!

      September 22, 2011 at 8:18 am |
    • Kebos

      One cannot base truth on what was claimed to be witnessed by 1 or 1 million people 2,000 years ago. Non-fiction has a tendency to become fiction over this sort of timespan.

      September 22, 2011 at 9:16 am |
    • Reality

      From Father Ray Brown's 878-paged, An Introduction to the New Testament, Doubleday, New York, 1996, p. 172, (with Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur (with regard to Matthew's Gospel)

      Date: 80-90 AD,give or take a decade

      "Author by traditional (2nd century) attribution. Matthew a tax collector among the Twelve, wrote either the Gospel or a collection of the Lord's sayings in Aramaic. Some who reject this picture allow that something written by Matthew may have made its way into the present Gospel.

      Author detectable from contents: A Greek-speaker, who knew Aramaic or Hebrew or both and was not an eyewitness of Jesus' ministry, drew on Mark and a collection of sayings of the Lord (Q) as well as on other available traditions oral or written. Probably a Jewish Christian.

      Locale Involved: Probably the Antioch region

      Unity and Integrity: No major reason to think of more than one author or sizable additions to what he wrote."

      As per Professor JD Crossan and many other contemporary biblical scholars:

      " THIRD STRATUM [80-120 AD]

      22. Gospel of Matthew [Matt]. Written around 90 CE and possibly at Syrian Antioch, it used, apart from other data, the Gospel of Mark and the Sayings Gospel Q for its pre-passion narrative, and the Gospel of Mark and the Cross Gospel for its passion and resurrection account (Crossan, 1988)."

      See Crossan's complete list of scriptural references at
      http://www.faithfutures.org/Jesus/Crossan1.rtf

      For another list of early Christian doc-uments and the date of publication, see: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/

      From this reference:

      "It is also the consensus position that the evangelist was not the apostle Matthew. Such an idea is based on the second century statements of Papias and Irenaeus. As quoted by Eusebius in Hist. Eccl. 3.39, Papias states: "Matthew put together the oracles [of the Lord] in the Hebrew language, and each one interpreted them as best he could." In Adv. Haer. 3.1.1, Irenaeus says: "Matthew also issued a written Gospel among the Hebrews in their own dialect while Peter and Paul were preaching at Rome and laying the foundations of the church." We know that Irenaeus had read Papias, and it is most likely that Irenaeus was guided by the statement he found there. That statement in Papias itself is considered to be unfounded because the Gospel of Matthew was written in Greek and relied largely upon Mark, not the author's first-hand experience."

      The referenced lists have rather extensive review links. Interesting information if you have time to read it all.

      With respect to John's Gospel and John' epistles, again from Professor/Father Raymond Brown in his book, An Introduction to the New Testament, John's Gospel, Date- 80-110 CE, Traditional Attribution, (2nd Century), St. John, one of the Twelve,

      Author Detectable from the Contents, One who regards himself in the tradition of the disciple.

      First Epistle of John, Authenticity- Certainly by a writer in the Johannine tradition, probably NOT by the one responsible for most of the Gospel.

      From Professor Bruce Chilton in his book, Rabbi Jesus,

      "Conventionally, scholarship has accorded priority to the first three gospels in historical work on Jesus, putting progressively less credence in works of late date. John's Gospel for example is routinely dismissed as a source......
      From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_John#Authorship

      "Since "the higher criticism" of the 19th century, some historians have largely rejected the gospel of John as a reliable source of information about the historical Jesus.[3][4] "[M]ost commentators regard the work as anonymous,"[5] and date it to 90-100."

      "The authorship has been disputed since at least the second century, with mainstream Christianity believing that the author is John the Apostle, son of Zebedee. Modern experts usually consider the author to be an unknown non-eyewitness, though many apologetic Christian scholars still hold to the conservative Johannine view that ascribes authorship to John the Apostle."

      See also http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/1john.html

      September 22, 2011 at 11:19 am |
  5. Reality

    And with respect to the "promised" Holy Land", we have this bit of updating:================>

    origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482 NY Times

    New Torah For Modern Minds

    “Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

    Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

    The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine doc-ument.

    The notion that the Bible is not literally true "is more or less settled and understood among most Conservative rabbis," observed David Wolpe, a rabbi at Sinai Temple in Los Angeles and a contributor to "Etz Hayim." But some congregants, he said, "may not like the stark airing of it." Last Passover, in a sermon to 2,200 congregants at his synagogue, Rabbi Wolpe frankly said that "virtually every modern archaeologist" agrees "that the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way that it happened, if it happened at all." The rabbi offered what he called a "LITANY OF DISILLUSION”' about the narrative, including contradictions, improbabilities, chronological lapses and the absence of corroborating evidence. In fact, he said, archaeologists digging in the Sinai have "found no trace of the tribes of Israel – not one shard of pottery."
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    September 22, 2011 at 7:07 am |
  6. Dominic

    Jesus is currently busy supporting non-existence since he is dead.
    It doesn't matter what he would do if he were alive today.

    From reading words attributed to him, I find they are exactly what a crazy man would say – a crazy man who did not see the future but only pretended to. Who believed in talking snakes and did a few "magic" tricks of his own.

    Jesus was, if the words are accurate, a megalomaniac with a messiah complex.

    You wouldn't believe how easy it can be to say and do such things in Roman times.
    Any sleight-of-hand, hoaxes, snake oil sellers, or con-artist would have had a field day back in them days.
    Just think of all the people who grew up with vitamin deficiencies, starvation, sickness without anyone washing their hands to stop it, physical abuse, and brain damage from eating unknown toxic chemicals!
    Nasty, brutish, and short. Not much education. No modern medicine. Vermin and pests. Ignorance about most stuff we take for granted. Everybody trying to drink wine because the rivers are open sewers. Cholera plagues. Dysentery.
    People without a clue yet some of them survived long enough to have children. Violence everywhere.
    Everything that was mysterious or what seemed like "magic" was labeled as such. Gods and demons were everywhere.
    The sun was worshiped by a great many primitive ancestors.
    Then Jesus comes along. Born of a woman and man just like everyone else, whatever messed up his head sure had a lasting impact, eh? If he had truly been the son of a god there would have been no question by anyone. Yet this did not happen.
    If there was a god, things would be different, like the Bible would have no contradictions or crazy talk in it.
    It would always have exactly the right information on everything in the universe, yet it mostly ignores all practical education and is shown to be just a collection of cult rubbish with extremely little practical application, as shown by the total lack of any provable communication with this god, who is not perfect and reads more like a petulant tyrant of immature leanings than a supreme being of any sort.
    So you see it doesn't matter what he might have done. He was crazy. Anyone who listens to that stuff can come down with the same cold in the head. Get out while you can. Quit listening to con-artists and deluded people about this stuff.

    September 22, 2011 at 4:55 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      Pretty much all the stuff in the Bible is insane drivel. The New Testament is in many ways even more morally reprehensible than the Old Testament. Substi.tutional atonement, blood sacrifice, hell as a punishment for disbelief. How is it moral to be held responsible for the crimes of someone else? How is the taking of a life appropriate payment for any debt? Why is instilling fear of eternal torment in children not considered child abuse? God gives a piece of himself a bad weekend and somehow this is viewed as unprecedented compassion? It's so monstrously evil and ridiculous that the mind boggles how anyone could twist any of this into something praiseworthy. Come into the fold but leave your brain at the door.

      September 22, 2011 at 7:18 am |
  7. montymoose

    The Bible addresses mans fall, and Gods redemption plan. Territory ( where you live on earth) has no meaning in Gods ultimate plan as there will be a new earth in the long run.
    Jesus looks at mans heart not citizenship in an earthly way. His plan is to create His church out of all mankind who has the faith of Abraham, believing in the promises of God.
    Read Ephesian 2:8-9, and Romans 10 : 9-10

    JESUS IS NOT INTERESTED IN ANY STATE EXCEPT THE STATE OF YOUR HEART TOWARDS HIM.

    September 22, 2011 at 4:38 am |
  8. Jose M. Pulido

    Jesus would have had no opinion about the rest of Israeli land still in illegal possession of Muslims/Islamists.

    “Jesus said, My kingdom is not of this world” (John 18:36).

    Even though back then Israel was part of the Roman Empire, Jesus never incited rebellion against such empire. Therefore, since Jesus had no opinion about the Israeli land being taken by the Romans, today, He would also have nothing to say about the rest of the Israeli missing land taken by its enemies.
    The closest Jesus got to a political opinion took place when He said:

    "Show me a denarius. Whose portrait and inscription are on it?" "Caesar's," they replied.
    “He said to them," “Then give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's" (Luke 20:25).

    And Mr. Medearis calls himself “an expert” in this area? It could be more like delusions

    September 22, 2011 at 4:06 am |
  9. Jose M. Pulido

    "When you hear some Christian politicians say, “The land belongs to Israel”, what they’re really saying is if America blesses Israel – that is, if it gives uncritical support to the Jewish state – God will bless America. If America curses Israel, God will curse America." The former is an impertinent and naïve opinion of Mr. Medearis.
    Our friend and ally Israel would never put America under duress by threatening us with divine punishment if we were to reject “uncritical support to the Jewish state.”
    That is not the reason the USA supports Israel. Even if God had not said to Abraham (paraphrased) that He would bless all those who bless Israel and would curse those who curse Israel, we would still be friends and allies of Israel.
    To believe that we support Israel because we are under duress by God’s warning toward those who hate Israel would portray a false and hypocritical support for Israel by the USA.
    If the Office of the presidency of the USA has officially declared that we support Israel because we want to be blessed by God as He mentioned to Abraham (Abram at that time), Mr. Medearis should cite such declaration otherwise it can be considered an impertinent and naive opinion.
    Israel would never like to become the world-wide monster of duress. God and not modern Israel, is the One who said that He would bless or curse those who do the same to Israel. Israel would never tell the USA: “You either do what I say or God will curse you.”
    Even though according to the Bible, Israel did not keep the covenant with God, He is still on Israel’s side because of His love for King David, the man who was after God‘s own heart. Therefore God’s blessing and/or cursing still applies today to all those who deliberately wish to harm Israel. Thus, all terrorists who hate and attack Israel are not only fighting against a formidable Israeli Army of God but against God Himself.

    September 22, 2011 at 3:57 am |
    • montymoose

      AMEN, they should read 11Chronicles 7:14

      September 22, 2011 at 4:43 am |
  10. oferdesade

    the tell here is that the writer talks to leaders of the hizbullah and hamas. i'm sure his intentions are good, but would he also talk to leaders of al qaida? life is not television. extremists are the inority, but the people they kill at the end of the day are dead. killers do not first explain why they are killing you so you can have time to glance at the knife you might defend yourself with. they silently creep up behind you and pull the trigger. the writer, for all his good intentions, is dangerous – maybe not to many people – but they WILL be dead by the time he recollects his thoughts.
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    September 22, 2011 at 3:56 am |
  11. Lolwut?

    I wasn't aware that Jesus was an expert on geopolitics or otherwise qualified to have his opinion on the conflict taken seriously. Silly me.

    September 22, 2011 at 3:37 am |
  12. Michel

    "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.

    September 22, 2011 at 3:35 am |
  13. Jimtanker

    Of course he would have supported a Palistenian state. He was a Palistenian Jew, if he even existed that is.

    September 22, 2011 at 3:34 am |
  14. Think About It

    The only one(s) to finally intervene with these delusional people and end the insanity will be a rational secularist with no dog in the race. Maybe even a computer could do it... enter all of the facts (leave out ALL Bible references) and see what the hard answer is. 🙂

    September 22, 2011 at 3:10 am |
    • Think About It

      * leave out ALL scripture references - no matter whose

      September 22, 2011 at 3:12 am |
  15. sword

    Koran 5 verse 51 look at quran.com/5/51 (seems like 9/11 isn't it..no?..you're welcome )
    allah said "Hey Muslim!"
    muslim said "yoooo!!.."
    allah said "who am mohammed??"
    muslim said " ice cool...!!."
    allah said "don't makes love with Jews and Christians because in fact they allies one another"
    muslim said " we cool...!!."
    mohammed said "me..nop..i only cares dopes and girls"
    muslim said " ain't cool...!!."
    allah said "if you follow mohammed, you'll rewarded 72virgin that always feels like virgin"
    muslim said " so cool...!!."

    and if someone said "it was mecca times"

    then answer them : "so mohammed camel as puppet prophets only on mecca time"

    September 22, 2011 at 3:00 am |
    • TheenD

      המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים

      September 22, 2011 at 3:11 am |
  16. sword

    islamProf: so what connection between wtc.usa/9/11 and quran.com/5/51:
    On islam quran, we divide 9 by 11 and then we get x
    and then we divide 5 by 51 and then we get y
    x and y have similiar there is point on that number
    islamSchoolar: Wow...quran rocks!!

    September 22, 2011 at 2:54 am |
    • sword

      Mat 10:34 Think not that I came to send peace on the earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

      September 22, 2011 at 2:56 am |
    • TheenD

      "But you have eyes and heart only for your dishonest gain, for shedding innocent blood, and for practicing oppression and violence.”

      September 22, 2011 at 2:59 am |
  17. sword

    Koran 5 verse 51 look at quran.com/5/51 (seems like 9/11 isn't it..no?..you're welcome )
    allah said "Hey Muslim!"
    muslim said "yoooo!!.."
    allah said "who am mohammed??"
    muslim said " ice cool...!!."
    allah said "don't makes love with Jews and Christians because in fact they allies one another"
    muslim said " we cool...!!."

    September 22, 2011 at 2:50 am |
    • TheenD

      "Do not envy a man of violence and do not choose any of his ways."

      September 22, 2011 at 2:54 am |
    • sword

      Mat 10:34 Think not that I came to send peace on the earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

      September 22, 2011 at 2:56 am |
  18. peace

    Mat 19:6 So that they are no more two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

    September 22, 2011 at 2:18 am |
    • TheenD

      "For I know how many are your transgressions and how great are your sins— you who afflict the righteous, who take a bribe, and turn aside the needy in the gate."

      September 22, 2011 at 2:31 am |
    • sword

      Mat 16:6 And Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.

      September 22, 2011 at 2:39 am |
    • TheenD

      "Woe to those who join house to house, who add field to field, until there is no more room, and you are made to dwell alone in the midst of the land."

      September 22, 2011 at 2:51 am |
  19. OldMo

    Fascinating insight Carl. There's nothing like non-Christians cherry-picking scripture to suit their desires. Israel's enemies want to wipe her out, do you really think part of loving them should include letting them do so? Of course you do Carl, you wouldn't be a lefty if you didn't have perverse logic to begin with.

    I'm sure your book was filled with useful insights too. Christians need to be instructed on how they should act by non-Christians. Know this, God will protect Israel against all odds and nations will disappear while Israel remains. Folks, read the Bible while you can and don't let guys like this Carl character interpret it for you. Romans 14:11.

    September 22, 2011 at 1:50 am |
    • TheenD

      There are those whose teeth are swords, whose fangs are knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, the needy from among mankind. - Proverbs 30:14

      September 22, 2011 at 2:13 am |
    • peace

      Mat 10:34 Think not that I came to send peace on the earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

      September 22, 2011 at 2:15 am |
    • TheenD

      “Hear this word, you cows of Bashan, who are on the mountain of Samaria, who oppress the poor, who crush the needy, who say to your husbands, ‘Bring, that we may drink!’

      September 22, 2011 at 2:29 am |
    • sword

      Mat 15:11 not that which entereth into the mouth defileth the man; but that which proceedeth out of the mouth, this defileth the man.

      September 22, 2011 at 2:37 am |
    • Think About It

      There is no proof for ANY of the supernatural fantasies in the Bible.

      September 22, 2011 at 2:55 am |
  20. salahuddin

    As long Israel can makes Islam midesat furious, it didn't a matter for USA. Real threat is islam and communist

    September 22, 2011 at 1:37 am |
    • TheenD

      "Their Redeemer is strong; the Lord of hosts is his name. He will surely plead their cause, that he may give rest to the earth, but unrest to the inhabitants of Babylon."

      September 22, 2011 at 2:15 am |
    • peace

      Mat 10:34 Think not that I came to send peace on the earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

      September 22, 2011 at 2:17 am |
    • TheenD

      "Therefore because you trample on the poor and you exact taxes of grain from him, you have built houses of hewn stone, but you shall not dwell in them; you have planted pleasant vineyards, but you shall not drink their wine."

      September 22, 2011 at 2:33 am |
    • sword

      Mat 15:11 not that which entereth into the mouth defileth the man; but that which proceedeth out of the mouth, this defileth the man.

      September 22, 2011 at 2:37 am |
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