My Take: Jesus would support Palestinian statehood bid
The author argues that Jesus was primarily a peacemaker.
September 21st, 2011
12:27 PM ET

My Take: Jesus would support Palestinian statehood bid

Editor's Note: Carl Medearis is an international expert in Arab-American and Muslim-Christian relations and is author of the book Speaking of Jesus: The Art of Not-Evangelism.

By Carl Medearis, Special to CNN

This week at the United Nations, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has promised to ask for recognition of a Palestinian state. If he does, the United States will veto. Why?

Largely because of something we'll call Christian Zionism, an American theological movement that preaches a Christian obligation to help Jews reclaim the biblical Promised Land.

I travel constantly, speaking about the Middle East to evangelical Christians across America and Europe. I lived in Lebanon for 12 years and churches invite me to talk about how to love their Muslim neighbors.

Often before I get invited to speak at churches and Christian conferences, I go through an awkward period of questioning, an interview that feels more like an interrogation.

Pastors and conference leaders want to size me up to make sure I’m “safe” for Christian audiences. The interrogation usually goes something like this:

“Carl, we love your books and your message. You have a lot of insight on how Christians can be more Jesus-like to our Middle Eastern neighbors. We hope you’ll talk a lot about that!”

Translation: Please, for the love of God, don’t say anything controversial about Israel or the Palestinians.

Though they are too polite to ask, what those pastors and conference leaders want to know is what is my position on Israel. For them, the modern Jewish state is a direct fulfillment of Bible prophecy, the catalyst for a series of events that will culminate in the return of Jesus.

As the Palestinians press ahead in their bid for statehood, prepare to hear from this crowd. These Christians number in the tens of millions and they go into a state of frenzy every time a politician so much as winks at the idea of Israel giving up a few settlements or withdrawing to pre-1967 borders.

They’ll tell you their concern has nothing to do with their particular interpretation of the Bible and everything to do with America and Israel’s national security interests.

Don’t believe a word of it.

When it comes to U.S. policy on Israel and the Middle East, Christian Zionism is the elephant in the room.

Christian Zionists believe that when God told Abraham 4,000 years ago, “I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you” he was making a promise that extends to the modern state of Israel. Any nation that “curses” Israel will face God’s judgment.

Not all evangelical Christians believe this, but the ones that do are the loudest voices in the media, and they lead huge organizations.

Television evangelists like Pat Robertson and John Hagee mobilize millions of Christians every year to write to their congressmen demanding that Israel be allowed to expand settlements indefinitely. They seem to oppose every peace deal that comes to the table.

There’s a reason for this. In their minds, the modern Israeli state is not only a fulfillment of biblical prophesy. In a bizarre twist that leaves most outsiders dumbfounded, Christian Zionists say the Bible predicts that Jews and Palestinians will forever be at war until Jesus returns.

They say the only person that will bring peace before the end of the age is—wait for it—the devil, in the form of the anti-Christ.

When you hear some Christian politicians say, “The land belongs to Israel”, what they’re really saying is if America blesses Israel – that is, if it gives uncritical support to the Jewish state - God will bless America. If America curses Israel, God will curse America.

When it comes to Israel and her neighbors, many Christian Zionists believe that peacemaking is the devil’s work.

They may forget that it was Jesus who said, “Blessed are the peacemakers."

One of the reasons Jesus was crucified was because of his refusal to embrace a nationalist agenda. But Christian Zionism blesses military action by the modern state of Israel, under the banner of "national security," including the demolition of Palestinian homes to pave the way for new settlements.

So how would Jesus vote this week if he had a seat at the U.N.?

Surely love, compassion, justice and peace-making would top his lists of concerns for all involved. Maybe he would give a new parable - the Parable of the Good Palestinian - offending all who would hear.

Rather than allowing obscure Old Testament promises to dictate our foreign policy, what if we stuck to the clear commands of God - love your neighbor, your enemy and the foreigner in your midst - which appear in Exodus, Leviticus and three of the four gospels.

Many Christians in America think of Jews and Christians as “us” and anything that sounds Muslim or Arab as “the other.” But the call of Jesus is to be more loving towards the “other” than towards the people we think of as “us.”

This command works both ways. When I’ve had audiences with leaders in the Hezbollah or Hamas, I tell them the same thing: That Jesus said to love your enemies. Who are your enemies? Israel.

It’s true that there are elements of Palestinian society that do not want peace, no matter the price. They need to be isolated and dealt with.

The same goes for elements of Israeli society that don’t want peace. The good news is that extremists are a minority on both sides of the conflict.

People ask me all the time what I think about Israel and end-times theology, and how the Palestinians factor into that.
Here’s my answer: If your end-times theology trumps the clear commands in Scripture to love neighbors and enemies, then its time to rethink your theology.

- CNN Belief Blog

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  1. themadjewess

    This 'person' that wrote this RAG FORGETS that he is GRAFTED in by ADOPTION, and that comes from the JEWS, the Hebrews. He CAN and will be cut off.

    September 23, 2011 at 7:10 pm |
  2. themadjewess

    Translation: Please, for the love of God, don’t say anything controversial about Israel or the Palestinians.
    -------Please, for the LOVE OF GOD, be quiet as you get ready to wipe Israel off the map, hopefully, gassing the JEWS.
    That is the REAL translation, satan.

    September 23, 2011 at 7:08 pm |
  3. DevilForYou

    My fellow stupid Americans. If you love Apartheid Israel so much more than your own country, get the f@@K out and go live there. Lets see if the Jewish politicians will treat you fairly.

    September 23, 2011 at 5:08 pm |
    • themadjewess

      Maybe YOU should move to PALESTINE.

      September 23, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
    • themadjewess

      Hey, Devil (Good name for you, btw)
      I guarantee 100% that you were "FOR" 'Apartheid, S. Africa'.

      September 23, 2011 at 7:01 pm |
  4. Chad

    – If Israel unilaterally disarmed itself tomorrow, what would happen?
    – If every Palestinian disarmed themselves tomorrow, what would happen?

    September 23, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
  5. Debbie

    Global Peace and Freedom with individual liberty, privacy and property rights for all. Everything is supposedly preordained and foretold and also by providence. Hope that it is a good outcome.

    September 23, 2011 at 10:30 am |
  6. DevilForYou

    Israel is on its last legs. Remember South Africa? That apartheid state is also no longer around.

    September 22, 2011 at 10:50 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>"Remember South Africa? "

      Remember June 5, 1967 ?

      September 23, 2011 at 3:47 am |
  7. Muneef

    One Line Humor  
    [1] Regular naps prevent old age, especially if you take them while driving.  
    [2] Having one child makes you a parent; having two you are a referee.  
    [3] Marriage is a relationship in which one person is always right and the other is the husband! 
    [4] I believe we should all pay our tax with a smile. I tried – but they wanted cash.  
    [5] A child's greatest period of growth is the month after you've purchased new school uniforms.  
    [6] Don't feel bad. A lot of people have no talent.  
    [7] Don't marry the person you want to live with, marry the one you cannot live without,
         but whatever you do, you'll regret it later.  
    (8] You can't buy love, but you pay heavily for it.  
    [9] Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote.    
    [10] Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get tired.   
    [11] Marriage is give and take. You'd better give it to her or she'll take it anyway.    
    [12] My wife and I always compromise. I admit I'm wrong and she agrees with me.    
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    [14] Ladies first. Pretty ladies sooner.  
    [15] A successful marriage requires falling in love many times, always with the same person.  
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       Dr: Get married.
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    [23] Why do couples hold hands during their wedding? It's a formality just like two boxers shaking hands before the fight begins!
    [24] Wife: Darling today is our anniversary, what should we do? Husband: Let us stand in silence for 2 minutes.  
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    September 22, 2011 at 9:03 pm |
    • Reality

      On the other hand, there is nothing funny about the terror that is Islam:

      Some examples:

      The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century

      ■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

      and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.

      and more recently

      1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

      1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

      2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

      3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles. 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

      4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

      5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

      6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

      7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

      8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

      9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

      10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror

      11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

      12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

      13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

      14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.

      15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.

      16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.

      17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.

      18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.

      19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011

      20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011

      21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.

      22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.

      September 22, 2011 at 11:41 pm |
    • Muneef

      Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools talk because they have to say something.. 😉

      September 23, 2011 at 8:42 pm |
  8. Muneef

    I suppose the Palestinians whether "Jews,Christians,Muslims" are the true Children of Israel who remained in the land and those came over from abroad might have been the result of the immigrants or just people who adopted the faith of Judaism... Any way only GOD who knows which is which... What surprises me most is how GOD had given a convent to the Holy Land to people who had intended the crucifixion of "Jesus" ? So was that convent for doing him well?

    September 22, 2011 at 8:26 pm |
    • themadjewess

      That is a LIE. Crucifixion is NOT a Hebrew practice.

      Jesus would **NEVER** support a state that believes his blood-brothers, the JEWS should be wiped off the map, and not exist. Fakestine has said "WE WILL NEVER RECOGNIZE A JEWISH STATE"

      The author of this post is a part of the end time apostasy and falling away.

      September 23, 2011 at 7:03 pm |
    • Muneef

      It was among the commandments passed on to Moses....!

      September 23, 2011 at 8:44 pm |
    • JohnR

      What are you talking about, Muneef? The Romans crucified thousands upon thousands of people throughout their empire. Jesus's death was just another afternoon of Romans being Romans.

      September 24, 2011 at 9:11 am |
    • JohnR

      The irony is that the Romans killed everyone that feared were real or potential enemies of the state and it is in that spirit that they killed Jesus as a potential rabble rouser. The irony is that Jesus DID ultimately destroy the Roman Empire, which fell in very short order after betraying their Pagan past and adopting Christianity as the state religion.

      September 24, 2011 at 9:14 am |
    • Muneef


      The Romans had nothing against him to crucify him...it was those who considered him to be blaspheming who insisted on the Roman leader to give orders of crucifiction as per their commandments has ordered for who ever is accused of blasphemy and transgress...!

      September 24, 2011 at 4:00 pm |
    • Muneef


          The Jews crucified Jesus through the Romans. At the time of Jesus' crucifixion, the Romans had conquered all the area in which Jesus lived and taught. The Romans allowed the Jews to continue with their Sanhedrin (their government), but the Romans took away capital punishment from the Jews. In order to have Jesus crucified, the Jewish leaders had to manipulate Rome into doing it. First, the Jewish leaders had to lie – make up charges (Luke 23: 2, 3). The Jewish leaders persisted in their demands for crucifixion (vss. 5-19). New Testament writers charged the Jews with having crucified Jesus (Acts 2: 36, 3: 13-17).

      September 24, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
  9. Keith

    Obadiah 18,, "And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, And the house of Esau for stubble, And they shall kindle in them, and devour them; And there shall not be ANY remaining of the house of Esau; For the Lord hath spoken it." You don't want to be a "palestinian". They are dead meat.

    September 22, 2011 at 8:00 pm |
    • herbert juarez

      modern palestinians are not an ancient biblical peoples.God bless

      September 22, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
    • Muneef

      The Children of Israel who remained on rhe lands have used the name of Palestainians to differ them selves from those who came from abroad to claim the land...otherwise they are the true children of Israel...what we have today is a premix of nations that been passing the land as pilgrims or invaders...!

      September 22, 2011 at 8:37 pm |
    • herbert juarez

      palestinians as we know them today are not the children of Israel and never have been.They are a people unwanted by the arab nations that expelled them.God bless

      September 22, 2011 at 8:50 pm |
    • Muneef

      Well who ever is feeding you this informations is not telling you the truth or otherwise that's how you want it to be!?

      September 22, 2011 at 9:02 pm |
  10. Brian O

    you mis-characterize the "peace keeping" aspect of the anti-christ. In scripture it is clear that the "peace" the anti-christ offers is a temporary peace...and a false peace...and only a peace available who pledge loyality to him alone. That manipulative picture of "peace" offered by the anti-christ is no where near the "blessed are the peacemakers" that Jesus speaks of...it is closer to the "satan can appear as an angel of light"...so that he may deceieve. To mischaracterize that aspect of your discussion causes your agrument to lose a lot of validity. It would be better to have stuck with the "love your enemies angle"...but even that discussion is bigger and more complex that pulling out a pet scripture or two.

    September 22, 2011 at 6:27 pm |
  11. WrshipWarior

    OK. I just posted two more statements on this "Belief Blog" but my beliefs were intercepted and are not showing. Thank you for allowing me to exercise my freedom of speech.

    September 22, 2011 at 5:09 pm |
    • themadjewess

      DO NOT apologize to these people, worship warrior, they are to be REBUKED.
      They are FAR away from the words of God, Torah, Tanakh, and the New Testament.

      September 23, 2011 at 7:12 pm |
  12. D. Wood

    @tallulah13 – I agree with your comments. People believe what they have been taught to believe, or what they choose to allow themselves to believe. God wrote the Koran. No, God wrote the Talmud. No, God wrote the New Testament. Blah, blah, blah. I believe in a Creator but the one I believe in cannot be described or defined by human beings. And what kind of "god" would ask you to keep a promise (covenant) by cutting off a body part?

    September 22, 2011 at 4:17 pm |
    • WrshipWarior

      @D.Wood: "I believe in a Creator but the one I believe in cannot be described or defined by human beings". How about He is awesome! Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace, the Great I AM, Light of the World, the Beginning and the End. Try that for starters.

      As for covenant: seeing it through the eyes of man I have to admit it is a whacked out concept. But our ways are not His ways. We forget that it's all about Him – our Creator. We always try to make it all about us – His creation.

      September 22, 2011 at 4:49 pm |
    • Shadowflash1522

      Your words cannot even begin to describe the sublimity of my God. In fact, your paltry obsequiousness does him a grave dishonor.

      Prepare yourself, insolent one. Judgement is coming.

      September 22, 2011 at 5:11 pm |
    • WrshipWarior

      @Shaddowflash1522: I was only offering a starting point to try and understand and describe God as he is described in the bible. It was by no means intended as a thoroughly exhaustive description. That would be futile.

      September 22, 2011 at 5:35 pm |
  13. Reality

    From p. 26:

    And with respect to the "promised" Holy Land", we have this bit of updating:================>

    origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482 NY Times

    New Torah For Modern Minds

    “Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

    Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.

    The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine doc-ument.

    The notion that the Bible is not literally true "is more or less settled and understood among most Conservative rabbis," observed David Wolpe, a rabbi at Sinai Temple in Los Angeles and a contributor to "Etz Hayim." But some congregants, he said, "may not like the stark airing of it." Last Passover, in a sermon to 2,200 congregants at his synagogue, Rabbi Wolpe frankly said that "virtually every modern archaeologist" agrees "that the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way that it happened, if it happened at all." The rabbi offered what he called a "LITANY OF DISILLUSION”' about the narrative, including contradictions, improbabilities, chronological lapses and the absence of corroborating evidence. In fact, he said, archaeologists digging in the Sinai have "found no trace of the tribes of Israel – not one shard of pottery."

    September 22, 2011 at 3:34 pm |
    • WrshipWarior

      @Reality: Thank you for proving that what we see in the church today is a direct manifestation of the great apostasy spoken of in 2 Th 2:3. This is what happens when we turn away from God's Truths as so clearly outlined in the Scriptures and settle for a bunch of man-made lies that have no resemblance of what is absolute let alone God.

      God have nercy on us all!

      Also – Why do you post the same blurb on just about every one of these message boards? This is not Torah. This is manure!

      September 22, 2011 at 3:44 pm |
    • Reality


      You need to take your complaint to the 1.5 million Conservative Jews and their rabbis. Said review of the New Torah for Modern Minds is worth reiteration as it puts Judaism into the 21st century.

      September 22, 2011 at 5:56 pm |
    • .........

      Do not read reality garbage posts they are copy paste spam hit report abuse to all reality posts

      September 22, 2011 at 7:59 pm |
  14. WrshipWarior

    Wow! Talk about Replacement Theology. The olive tree still stands. Whatever happened to the concept of a "covenant"? God cut covenant with Abraham and his seed. Blood was shed. God is true to His Word and intends for His covenant to be an everlasting covenant. He cannot break His covenant unlike all of us who break them through things like divorce, etc.. We've come so far from the truth and have bought into American Christianity and the lies that want to shun Israel and replace it all with watered down religion. And we believe that everyone's god is the same God. This simply is a lie. Allah is not Elohim. Islam worships a different god than Christians/Jews. Jesus (a Jew by descent in the lineage of David) fulfilled the old by establishing the New Covenant in His own blood with mankind but never did away with the old. We must support Israel. The book of Romans declares that all Israel will be saved which includes the natural branches as well as those who were grafted into the olive tree (the Gentile nations).

    September 22, 2011 at 3:12 pm |
    • WrshipWarior

      ...not that we should not be praying for our enemies. I do agree with that much. But I also know that unless we all serve the One True God we will never see eye to eye.

      September 22, 2011 at 3:14 pm |
    • WrshipWarior

      Jesus also said, there will be wars and rumors of wars and that these things must all take place.

      September 22, 2011 at 3:18 pm |
    • Normon

      There shall be rain and there shall be sun. Thus sayth the weatherman.

      September 22, 2011 at 4:44 pm |
    • GB

      Romans 7:4-6. "So, my brothers, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit to God. 5For when we were controlled by the sinful nature,a the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, so that we bore fruit for death. 6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code."

      Romans 10:1-4. "Brothers, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes."

      Romans 11:1-6. "I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: 3“Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me”a? 4And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” 5So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. 6And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace."

      Romans11:23. "And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again."

      Sounds like Remnant Theology is the correct understanding of scripture. Not Zionism or Replacement Theology. Christ is the end of the Law. The Old Covenant has been superceded by the New – for both Israel and Gentiles. God's focus is on dwelling with those who love Him, expanding His work beyond the real estate of Israel for the sake of all mankind. Jew and Gentile are invited alike into the Kingdom of God through faith in Jesus Christ – the Messiah who came through the Jews. He will return again, and the land we know as Israel will again be home to God's presence. In the meantime, preach the good news to ALL!

      September 23, 2011 at 5:14 pm |
    • themadjewess

      Wow! Talk about Replacement Theology. The olive tree still stands.
      -----Yep, it is the end time apostasy and falling away, which the author is, a fallen from grace, "Christian", in otherwords, he is of his real father, the devil.

      September 23, 2011 at 7:05 pm |
  15. DJ

    Love it Carl! Thanks for being a prophetic voice to the religious spirit in all of us. I said a prayer for the palistinians after reading your artical, something I don't think I have ever done before. Thanks.

    September 22, 2011 at 3:10 pm |
    • Keith

      to whom did you pray?

      September 22, 2011 at 4:21 pm |
    • ..

      joe pesci

      September 22, 2011 at 4:45 pm |
    • themadjewess

      said a prayer for the palistinians
      ----–I hope you asked GOD to tell the FAKEstinians to stop rocketing Israel, since they want 'peace' so damned bad.

      September 23, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
  16. Aman

    Hello every one, I have one thing to say to the all believer brothers, why should we keep us busy with this kind of useless discussions. Time is very short let us just reap the harvest. Kindly read Daniel chapter 12 every thing will become clear to you brothers.

    September 22, 2011 at 3:03 pm |
  17. darrentyler

    Abbas and Fatah Party might be negotiating, but Hamas is very much in control. Hamas who has brutally tortured, oppressed and murdered Palestinians. Stabbed them. Shot their knee caps and threw them off buildings. Voting to put that type of government in charge of Palestinians isn't Christlike. It's naive.

    September 22, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
  18. Rich C

    This is oversimplifying Christian Zionism, which has existed for centuries, way before American pre-dispensational millenialism. For instance, Charles Spurgeon (British) and Corrie ten Boom (Dutch) among others would be considered Christian Zionists. Simply put we believe that yes, the ancient biblical prophesies that God would regather the Jewish people after centuries of exile have been fulfilled. However there are varying views as to peace etc. It was Jesus who said to beware of false prophets, wolves in sheep's clothing.

    You also overlook the very real peace deals Israel has offered and that were rejected by the Palestinians already. Also the "elements of Palestinian society that do not want peace" include Hamas, dedicated to Israel's destruction, currently in control of Gaza. I do believe peacemaking with those who have stated clearly their intentions to conquer those they claim to make peace with is on the same level as British Prime Minister appeasing Hitler.

    September 22, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
    • Rich C

      Typo, I meant "pre-millenial dispensationalism". Simple definition of Christian zionism "Christian Zionism is a belief among some Christians that the return of the Jews to the Holy Land, and the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, is in accordance with Biblical prophecy."

      September 22, 2011 at 5:51 pm |
  19. frank

    "My Take: Jesus would support Palestinian Statehood Bid"

    Obviosly you have NO IDEA what you are taling about. Eevery time Jesus was asked to take a political stand, he refused.

    Don't forget "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's"

    The tax was unfair and the tax collectors were corrupt and stealing the people blind. If every there was a political subject that he COULD have commented upon, this was. And he refused.

    I guess you need to go back to school and do some reading. Carl!

    September 22, 2011 at 2:21 pm |
    • What?

      He did make a political stand. He said the money belongs to Ceasar so give it to him if he wants it. If you are so concerned about keeping Ceasars money then you are worshiping money more than God.

      September 22, 2011 at 3:15 pm |
  20. wynn

    thanks for the article. would like to see more about what you call christian zionism.

    September 22, 2011 at 2:02 pm |
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