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My Take: Jesus would support Palestinian statehood bid
The author argues that Jesus was primarily a peacemaker.
September 21st, 2011
12:27 PM ET

My Take: Jesus would support Palestinian statehood bid

Editor's Note: Carl Medearis is an international expert in Arab-American and Muslim-Christian relations and is author of the book Speaking of Jesus: The Art of Not-Evangelism.

By Carl Medearis, Special to CNN

This week at the United Nations, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has promised to ask for recognition of a Palestinian state. If he does, the United States will veto. Why?

Largely because of something we'll call Christian Zionism, an American theological movement that preaches a Christian obligation to help Jews reclaim the biblical Promised Land.

I travel constantly, speaking about the Middle East to evangelical Christians across America and Europe. I lived in Lebanon for 12 years and churches invite me to talk about how to love their Muslim neighbors.

Often before I get invited to speak at churches and Christian conferences, I go through an awkward period of questioning, an interview that feels more like an interrogation.

Pastors and conference leaders want to size me up to make sure I’m “safe” for Christian audiences. The interrogation usually goes something like this:

“Carl, we love your books and your message. You have a lot of insight on how Christians can be more Jesus-like to our Middle Eastern neighbors. We hope you’ll talk a lot about that!”

Translation: Please, for the love of God, don’t say anything controversial about Israel or the Palestinians.

Though they are too polite to ask, what those pastors and conference leaders want to know is what is my position on Israel. For them, the modern Jewish state is a direct fulfillment of Bible prophecy, the catalyst for a series of events that will culminate in the return of Jesus.

As the Palestinians press ahead in their bid for statehood, prepare to hear from this crowd. These Christians number in the tens of millions and they go into a state of frenzy every time a politician so much as winks at the idea of Israel giving up a few settlements or withdrawing to pre-1967 borders.

They’ll tell you their concern has nothing to do with their particular interpretation of the Bible and everything to do with America and Israel’s national security interests.

Don’t believe a word of it.

When it comes to U.S. policy on Israel and the Middle East, Christian Zionism is the elephant in the room.

Christian Zionists believe that when God told Abraham 4,000 years ago, “I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you” he was making a promise that extends to the modern state of Israel. Any nation that “curses” Israel will face God’s judgment.

Not all evangelical Christians believe this, but the ones that do are the loudest voices in the media, and they lead huge organizations.

Television evangelists like Pat Robertson and John Hagee mobilize millions of Christians every year to write to their congressmen demanding that Israel be allowed to expand settlements indefinitely. They seem to oppose every peace deal that comes to the table.

There’s a reason for this. In their minds, the modern Israeli state is not only a fulfillment of biblical prophesy. In a bizarre twist that leaves most outsiders dumbfounded, Christian Zionists say the Bible predicts that Jews and Palestinians will forever be at war until Jesus returns.

They say the only person that will bring peace before the end of the age is—wait for it—the devil, in the form of the anti-Christ.

When you hear some Christian politicians say, “The land belongs to Israel”, what they’re really saying is if America blesses Israel – that is, if it gives uncritical support to the Jewish state - God will bless America. If America curses Israel, God will curse America.

When it comes to Israel and her neighbors, many Christian Zionists believe that peacemaking is the devil’s work.

They may forget that it was Jesus who said, “Blessed are the peacemakers."

One of the reasons Jesus was crucified was because of his refusal to embrace a nationalist agenda. But Christian Zionism blesses military action by the modern state of Israel, under the banner of "national security," including the demolition of Palestinian homes to pave the way for new settlements.

So how would Jesus vote this week if he had a seat at the U.N.?

Surely love, compassion, justice and peace-making would top his lists of concerns for all involved. Maybe he would give a new parable - the Parable of the Good Palestinian - offending all who would hear.

Rather than allowing obscure Old Testament promises to dictate our foreign policy, what if we stuck to the clear commands of God - love your neighbor, your enemy and the foreigner in your midst - which appear in Exodus, Leviticus and three of the four gospels.

Many Christians in America think of Jews and Christians as “us” and anything that sounds Muslim or Arab as “the other.” But the call of Jesus is to be more loving towards the “other” than towards the people we think of as “us.”

This command works both ways. When I’ve had audiences with leaders in the Hezbollah or Hamas, I tell them the same thing: That Jesus said to love your enemies. Who are your enemies? Israel.

It’s true that there are elements of Palestinian society that do not want peace, no matter the price. They need to be isolated and dealt with.

The same goes for elements of Israeli society that don’t want peace. The good news is that extremists are a minority on both sides of the conflict.

People ask me all the time what I think about Israel and end-times theology, and how the Palestinians factor into that.
Here’s my answer: If your end-times theology trumps the clear commands in Scripture to love neighbors and enemies, then its time to rethink your theology.

- CNN Belief Blog

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  1. Muneef

    The Arab house of Islam
    Most people are probably descended from the Prophet Muhammad anyway

    If we accept the argument above that, even if the exact lines aren't known, most of the prominent families of Islam would have soon ended up descended from the Prophet, then most of modern Islam would descend from the Prophet.
    And only a tiny amount of intermarriage with Christians and Jews in medieval Spain would yield the result that, even if all the descents above are false, quite likely almost every Muslim, almost every Jew, and almost everyone in the West today is descended from the Prophet.
    Simply put, if anyone at Muhammad's time left a reasonable number of descendants, they are probably the ancestor of most of the West today, even if no specific descent can be proved. See full discussion on Common ancestors of all humans.
    Check link for the argument;
     
    http://humphrysfamilytree.com/Islam/

    October 9, 2011 at 8:01 pm |
    • Muneef

      Quite likely almost every Jew in the world today descends from the Prophet Muhammad, c. 600 AD.
      By the same logic, there were Jews in medieval Spain, and it's hard to see them staying separate from the gradual descent of all of Muslim and Christian Spain from the Prophet. Again, all we need is a tiny amount of interbreeding for this to happen. And later the Jews of Spain were expelled, and are probably hence the ancestors of much or most of the world's Jews today.

      It is interesting to think that every Palestinian suicide bombing attack on Israel is almost certainly some descendants of the Prophet killing other descendants of the Prophet.
      Check link for more;
      http://humphrysfamilytree.com/ca.html

      October 9, 2011 at 8:06 pm |
  2. ProudAmerican

    Has anyone heard of some group called Naturei Carta or something similar? It seems that these people have some very advanced way of thinking.

    October 9, 2011 at 6:16 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      OK, I fell for it and googeld "Naturei Carta"and came up with h t t p : // www . nkusa . org – not sure if they have advanced ways of thinking but they do bill themselves as "Jews United Against Zionism."

      October 9, 2011 at 6:21 pm |
  3. themadjewess

    @ Stupid Jew:
    'AngryJew

    I am not loyal to war criminals or genocidal land thieves.'

    "Land theives" You are a traitor, that is what you are. Erav Rav. Land theives MY A$$. How much more do your blood brothers have to GIVE AWAY? Bush your butt-buddy and Sharon, Yimach Shemo forced over 8k Jews OUT of their land (Gush Katif) in 2005, they are REFUGEES in their own land.

    YOU STOP BEING A HYPOCRITE. YOU HAVE STOLEN INDIAN LAND, you give it BACK if you do not want to be a 'hypocrite'.
    YOU talk about nazi-ism but you are fking Hitler.
    Why do you not go join the nazis, they talk JUST LIKE YOU. They must be right–about the Jewish question since you agree with them.
    Traitor, dis-loyal slime.
    You are cursed. Disgusting pig.

    October 9, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
    • AngryJew

      I have not used wmd on women and children waving a white flag, the Israeli storm troopers did this in Gaza. Go read the UN report. Israel committed war crimes. I am not stealing Palestinian land, dunum by dunum. Israel has an official policy of stealing Palestinian land. Hitler also had this policy.

      October 26, 2011 at 4:47 pm |
  4. Muneef

    (The Cattle)

    Say, "Indeed, my Lord has guided me to a straight path – a correct religion – the way of Abraham, inclining toward truth. And he was not among those who associated others with Allah ." (06:161).

    Say, "Indeed, my prayer, my rites of sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allah , Lord of the worlds. (06:162).

    No partner has He. And this I have been commanded, and I am the first [among you] of the Muslims." (06:163).

    Say, "Is it other than Allah I should desire as a lord while He is the Lord of all things? And every soul earns not [blame] except against itself, and no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. Then to your Lord is your return, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ." (06:164).

    And it is He who has made you successors upon the earth and has raised some of you above others in degrees [of rank] that He may try you through what He has given you. Indeed, your Lord is swift in penalty; but indeed, He is Forgiving and Merciful. (06:165).

    October 8, 2011 at 6:40 pm |
    • Muneef

      Picks of (The Light) 24:

      When you received it with your tongues and said with your mouths that of which you had no knowledge and thought it was insignificant while it was, in the sight of Allah , tremendous.  (24:15).
      --
      Indeed, those who like that immorality should be spread [or publicized] among those who have believed will have a painful punishment in this world and the Hereafter. And Allah knows and you do not know.   (24:19).
      And if it had not been for the favor of Allah upon you and His mercy... and because Allah is Kind and Merciful.   (24:20).
      ---
      And We have certainly sent down to you distinct verses and examples from those who passed on before you and an admonition for those who fear Allah .  (24:34).
      ---
      [Such niches are] in mosques which Allah has ordered to be raised and that His name be mentioned therein; exalting Him within them in the morning and the evenings (24:36).
      -----
      Allah has promised those who have believed among you and done righteous deeds that He will surely grant them succession [to authority] upon the earth just as He granted it to those before them and that He will surely establish for them [therein] their religion which He has preferred for them and that He will surely subst-itute for them, after their fear, security, [for] they worship Me, not associating anything with Me. But whoever disbelieves after that – then those are the defiantly disobedient. (24:55).
      ---–
      Unquestionably, to Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and earth. Already He knows that upon which you [stand] and [knows] the Day when they will be returned to Him and He will inform them of what they have done. And Allah is Knowing of all things. (24:64).
      *************

      October 8, 2011 at 6:41 pm |
    • themadjewess

      'Actually have seen many like that but unfortunately outer of Israel only…'

      Like you care for fakestine only, just because you want to see Jews driven into the sea?
      You are just glad that there is a traitorous Jew so you can USE him/her/it.

      October 9, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
    • Muneef

      Jewess.

      Images of the full Arabian family Tree from time of "Noah" down to Muhammed s.a.w;

      Unfortunately couldn't find equivalent in English...
      As Arab Decedents our ancestors have passed through all beliefs as Pagan,Jews,Christians and Muslims. The Arabian Roots go back to Noah's time...as per the images at the link;

      http://twitemail.com/email/373263915/18/صور-لشجرة-العرب-كاملة

      October 10, 2011 at 5:11 pm |
    • Muneef

      He was not the first nor he will be the last, many Jews believe that Israel was not supposed to be as per their bible...insisting that this act of taking Israel over is made by Zionists and not by Jews...!!!

      October 10, 2011 at 6:14 pm |
  5. DevilForYou

    The mad Jewish woman might like these Jews:
    http://www.nkusa.org/

    Neturei Karta ROCKS!

    October 8, 2011 at 5:56 pm |
    • themadjewess

      Nope, I dont agree with Jews that voted in Hussein Osama, live in Israel and want to see their blood brothers bombed. I know YOU do, but I dont.

      October 9, 2011 at 12:44 pm |
    • ChristianZionist888

      What is wrong with that mad Jewish wench? Only she has the right to express her views, it seems. Anyone else's comments are not correct simply because they differ from hers. Typical herd mentality. It is no wonder the Zionists have doomed Apartheid Israel.

      October 9, 2011 at 6:20 pm |
  6. RichChris

    Ahhh...the simplicity that is in Christ!
    My Bible states that we are to obey those in authority over us (Romans 13).
    Imagine the disciples protesting the government during their days on Earth 🙂
    Jesus taught: "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's (Matthew 22).
    It is also taught that we are to honor all men, turn the other cheek, live in peace, etc. etc.
    You see, it is not about the individual, country or cause but about honoring God the Creator in all we do.
    He wants us to practice Mercy, Truth, and Justice. This is the God I know and love and serve.
    Futhermore, the follower of Christ and thus child of God has no time for politics or fleeting pleasures of this life.
    God is sovereign and His plan for Israel will happen without the United States because it is quite clear in Scripture that Christ will return to rule and reign on Earth from Jerusalem.

    October 8, 2011 at 5:05 pm |
    • AngryJew

      I guess the Germans who obeyed the Nazi leaders were really good Christians????? Use your brains, that is why your God gave you one.

      October 8, 2011 at 5:53 pm |
    • HannibalTheOne

      SCREW CAESAR, I want my taxes back, you can keep your guns.

      October 8, 2011 at 6:02 pm |
  7. themadjewess

    @Angry Jew"
    'All the Jewish settlers living in the illegal settlements will have to pack their crap and move back to Israel or to Europe, where they belong.'
    --Sounds like you have the final solution for your blood brothers.
    If you want to know WHY people hate your guts, it is because you have not a SHRED of loyalty in you.
    Yimach Shemo Vizchero

    October 8, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
    • AngryJew

      I am not loyal to war criminals or genocidal land thieves.

      October 8, 2011 at 5:52 pm |
    • Muneef

      Glad to see that there are wise sensible Jews...who speak of truth with no fear or hypocrisy... Actually have seen many like that but unfortunately outer of Israel only...

      October 8, 2011 at 8:51 pm |
  8. The One True Steve

    Of course Jesus would support a Palestinian state ... Why wouldn't a fictional character support a fictional people.

    In March, 1977, a Dutch newspaper published an interview with PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. He said:

    " The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.

    For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan. "

    Back in the day, the area was controlled by Rome, Islamic and Christian Crusaders, the Ottoman Empire and the British who created Israel.

    Claiming a land as your ancestral birthright is meaningless. if you want the land, you raise an army and go to war. If you win, its yours ... till some other stronger army comes along. This is the way the whole planet has be divided.

    The Arab Muslims went to war with the Jews .... and .... Lost. it's the land of Israel.

    All this fighting over land is in the name of God ... but one thing is clear ... the Jews, Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God. All these religions claim a peaceful loving God ... and if you don't believe it ... they will kill you in his name.

    The unavoidable truth is as long as religion is involved in governments there can never be a "Palestinian" state and an Israeli State existing side by side. its one or the other.

    October 7, 2011 at 8:33 pm |
    • Credenza

      If what you stated is true why the HELL are the USA and UN so determined to throw Israel under the bus???????
      This makes a complete mockery of the international communitie's pious concern for Palestinians doesn't it?

      If that man made the statement , there's one thing I could say. It's the first arab I've ever heard speak the truth [sorry, apart from Sadat ]

      If Israel is attacked by the ever increasing rabble rousing, hailed by Obama as the Arab Spring – then America should be held legally accountable for any deaths.
      America will NEVER prosper while they do this to a so-called friendly nation; have the death penalty; abort babies because they are 'inconvenient' and illegally enter other countries to kill at random.

      I've always respected America until the last 3 years. Never again. I hope your economy fails. Then you might learn a little humility AND loyalty to your friends.

      October 8, 2011 at 12:09 am |
    • AngryJew

      The Palestinian people are going to have their state. All the Jewish settlers living in the illegal settlements will have to pack their crap and move back to Israel or to Europe, where they belong.

      October 8, 2011 at 12:52 am |
    • DevilForYou

      Screw Israel. No more tax money for Israel.

      October 8, 2011 at 12:53 am |
  9. DumbAmerican

    We in America are not supposed to think. We are not even supposed to mention the obvious. Of Course Jesus would support a Palestinian State. Enough with the Israeli land thefts already.

    October 7, 2011 at 2:12 am |
    • themadjewess

      'Of Course Jesus would support a Palestinian State'

      Back it up in scripture in the New Testament.
      There is no covenant with palis.
      Read Isaiah 17 & 18
      THAT is what is coming up for 'palestine'.

      October 7, 2011 at 2:58 am |
    • Credenza

      There IS NO Palestinian State, Muppet. Read the first letter above from OneTrueSteve and LEARN. You ignorant man.

      October 8, 2011 at 12:12 am |
    • AngryJew

      The European Jews want to convince the world of their fairy tale. They want us to believe that just because they converted they have some sort of biblical right to all of Palestine. That is like the Mafia saying that they can extort people simply because they want to protect them. Israel is a terrorist state that steals Palestinian land. It will never have peace until they obey the commandments.

      October 8, 2011 at 12:48 am |
  10. Muneef

    The_Holy_Quran_English.pdf
    Size: 29.6 MB
    Expires: November 4, 2011 4:41:00 AM PDT
    DOWNLOAD

    https://www.yousendit.com/download/T2dkeVdobEEwMEZ2TzhUQw?locale=en_US&s=301019&cid=pm-03002124310600000000%3b301019

    October 6, 2011 at 6:43 pm |
  11. Jim

    Anything and everything that Jesus said must be considered under the context of Jesus' purpose to come to this earth: to seek and save the lost. When Jesus says, blessed is the peacemaker, he doesn't just mean blessed are those who maintain or make peace, but those the demonstrate the reconciliation which Christ purchased through his death on the cross. Oh to put words in his mouth with no idea what you are talking about.

    October 5, 2011 at 10:51 pm |
    • AngryJew

      I suppose you know what Jesus would support?

      October 7, 2011 at 2:07 am |
    • themadjewess

      AngryJew, these people know about as much of Jesus as they do pali.
      Which is nil, nix, nine, none, zero, nada.
      Just Stormfront hogwash.

      October 7, 2011 at 2:59 am |
    • Jim

      @AngryJew,
      I do know a lot of what Jesus wants, but I doubt you believe that statement, so I'm wasting my time. However, I was simply saying that every statement has to be measured against Jesus' claimed purpose for coming. The message of love and forgiveness matches why Jesus came. The message of tolerance (the definition of peacemaking he champions) does not fit. Also, I think you misunderstand me to agree that a Palestinian state would be a good thing. I do not.

      October 7, 2011 at 9:32 am |
    • Credenza

      Thank God that you understand, Jim. Well said.

      October 8, 2011 at 12:14 am |
  12. Muneef

    And We send down of the Qur'an that which is healing and mercy for the believers, but it does not increase the wrongdoers except in loss.
    http://quran.com/17
    ---–

    Sahih International
    And [for] every person We have imposed his fate upon his neck, and We will produce for him on the Day of Resurrection a record which he will encounter spread open.17:14

    [It will be said], "Read your record. Sufficient is yourself against you this Day as accountant."17:15

    Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And never would We punish until We sent a messenger.17:16

    And when We intend to destroy a city, We command its affluent but they defiantly disobey therein; so the word comes into effect upon it, and We destroy it with [complete] destruction.17:17

    And how many have We destroyed from the generations after Noah. And sufficient is your Lord, concerning the sins of His servants, as Acquainted and Seeing.17:18

    Whoever should desire the immediate – We hasten for him from it what We will to whom We intend. Then We have made for him Hell, which he will [enter to] burn, censured and banished.17:19

    But whoever desires the Hereafter and exerts the effort due to it while he is a believer – it is those whose effort is ever appreciated [by Allah ].17:20

    To each [category] We extend – to these and to those – from the gift of your Lord. And never has the gift of your Lord been restricted.17:21

    Look how We have favored [in provision] some of them over others. But the Hereafter is greater in degrees [of difference] and greater in distinction.17:22

    Do not make [as equal] with Allah another deity and [thereby] become censured and forsaken.17:23
    ---
    Sahih International
    The seven heavens and the earth and whatever is in them exalt Him. And there is not a thing except that it exalts [ Allah ] by His praise, but you do not understand their [way of] exalting. Indeed, He is ever Forbearing and Forgiving.17:45

    And when you recite the Qur'an, We put between you and those who do not believe in the Hereafter a concealed part-i-tion.17:46

    And We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And when you mention your Lord alone in the Qur'an, they turn back in aversion.17:47
    ----
    Sahih International
    And We have certainly honored the children of Adam and carried them on the land and sea and provided for them of the good things and preferred them over much of what We have created, with [definite] preference.17:71

    [Mention, O Muhammad], the Day We will call forth every people with their record [of deeds]. Then whoever is given his record in his right hand – those will read their records, and injustice will not be done to them, [even] as much as a thread [inside the date seed].17:72

    And whoever is blind in this [life] will be blind in the Hereafter and more astray in way.17:73
    ----

    October 5, 2011 at 6:09 pm |
  13. Muneef

    How long has this "Diaspora" been going on ?!

    A diaspora (from Greek διασπορά, "scattering, dispersion")[1] is "the movement, migration, or scattering of people away from an established or ancestral homeland"[2] or "people dispersed by whatever cause to more than one location",[3] or "people settled far from their ancestral homelands".[2]

    The word has come to refer to historical mass-dispersions of people with common roots, particularly movements of an involuntary nature, such as the forced removal...
    Recently scholarship has distinguished between different kinds of diaspora, based on its causes such as imperialism, trade or labor migrations, or by the kind of social coherence within the diaspora community and its ties to the ancestral lands. Some diaspora communities maintain strong political ties with their homeland. Other qualities that may be typical of many diasporas are thoughts of return, relationships with other communities in the diaspora, and lack of full assimilation to the host country.[3]

    In all cases, the term diaspora carries a sense of displacement; that is, the population so described finds itself for whatever reason separated from its national territory, and usually its people have a hope, or at least a desire, to return to their homeland at some point, if the "homeland" still exists in any meaningful sense. Some writers[who?] have noted that diaspora may result in a loss of nostalgia for a single home as people "re-root" in a series of meaningful displacements. In this sense, individuals may have multiple homes throughout their diaspora, with different reasons for maintaining some form of attachment to each. Diasporic cultural development often assumes a different course from that of the population in the original place of settlement. Over time, remotely separated communities tend to vary in culture, traditions, language, and other factors. The last vestiges of cultural affiliation in a diaspora is often found in community resistance to language change and in maintenance of traditional religious practice.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora

    October 4, 2011 at 6:42 pm |
  14. Mark

    No Jew is legally allowed in all of Mecca or Medina. No cross can be worn or Bible possessed in all of Saudi Arabia, but the Jews are unjust and intolerant because they won't give half of Jeruaslem to the Palestinians for their capital. Hmmm. Forget Christian Zionism, how about simple justice and porportion? Has anyone seen how small Israel is in porportion to the rest of the Middle East? It isn't the size or the territory of Israel that bothers Palestinians; it is its very existence. Formation of a state has again and again clearly been declared to be just one more step to the complete elimination of Israel. So Jesus would encourage the statehood of those who refuse to renounce a commitment to their neighbor's destruction? No.

    October 4, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
    • ObeytheLaw

      There is plenty of official and unofficial discrimination against non-Jews in Israel. The point is that Israel has been given its borders and is trying to steal land that is not theirs. The government wants to create a Greater Israel just like the German rulers tried in the 1940's. It will not work. Israel is increasingly more isolated.

      October 5, 2011 at 10:59 am |
    • AngryJew

      Olmert is corrupt to the core but even he realized that Erez Yisroel is a dead dream. If Israel wants to be a true democracy then the laws that give special privileges to Jews must be changed.

      October 5, 2011 at 11:23 am |
    • Credenza

      Mark – have you read the post from OneTrueSteve at the top of this page [32]? It's brilliant and underlines what you've said. An arab spokesman said there's NO SUCH PLACE as Palestine or a Palestinian people. The arabs uphold the myth to get rid of Israel.
      He also said that as soon as they get the Israelis out they will tack Israeli / Palestine land to Jordan. The liars don't even WANT a State!

      October 8, 2011 at 12:22 am |
  15. Muneef

    http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/09/201192614417586774.html

    October 4, 2011 at 3:29 pm |
  16. Muneef

    I think Jesus would support Palestinian statehood bid since Mosques and Churches are being burnt up by the jewish new settlements communities...! Algalil Alaala mosque burnt up 3 Oct 2011...!! not sure what that serves other than the spread of further terrors but as it seems matters are looked up with one eye only that does not see or condemn the attacks of GOD Worship Houses whether they are "Synagogues,Churches or Mosques" specially in a land that is supposed to hold the three of those to live in harmony which obviously some are against as we can learn from such acts...!!

    October 3, 2011 at 6:58 pm |
    • Credenza

      You forgot to mention that the Israeli "illegal building" is being done on the Israeli-annexed area of Jerusalem under civil and municiple law.

      Stop your snivelling lies already!

      October 8, 2011 at 12:26 am |
    • Muneef

      Credenza.

      Who brought any mention of buildings and lands?! Was saying houses of GOD worship should not be attacked for any reason since we are are believers and GOD is One the GOD of Abraham for those three creeds...! But seems your problem people is that you twist words and choose to build anger and hate rather than showing careness and compassion...!! No wonder why such att-i-tudes by those fanatics and extreme believers of the three creeds has driven people such as "Reality" and other Atheists to despise religion into denying existence of GOD for the Hate being reflected equally by those three creeds...! Shouldn't that as well change among the changes that are taking place to resolve such issues otherwise it is those who will be in front GOD responsible for all those who had hated religion and run away from it....it is those who had driven our world to end earlier than should by their irresponsible acts...!!! It is those who even lack to recognize the sense of the word meaning of "Humanity and Humanitarian"... Aren't their such acts considered inhuman and against all the Holy Books and Teachings....!!!

      October 8, 2011 at 4:25 pm |
  17. Sue

    Jesus is the best Jew there has ever been. He was even better than Einstein. But don't forget, the early Jews were a mix match of different tribes. In the old days people converted back and forth as the tribes conquered each other and so forth. This means that the only claim that the present Jews have to Historical Palestine is that granted by the UN and not what they believe in their pretty little heads.

    October 2, 2011 at 10:10 pm |
    • MadScientist

      Einstein got his idea for the theory of relativity from another person's manuscript. His theory is now facing a great challenge due to new experiments.

      October 2, 2011 at 10:15 pm |
    • kimsland

      MadScientist, are you speaking of the speed of light. Hopefully you're not questioning gravity?
      Scientists are trying to prove that neutrinos can travel faster than light.
      These scientists do NOT use religion in their experiments, at all.

      Only science (not religion) proves things to be true, and so far religion is at the bottom of the bucket of proof (ie its s.c.u.m)
      Science and religion are exactly the same as Fact and Fiction. It is a fact that religion is ludicrous.

      October 2, 2011 at 10:34 pm |
    • AgnosticsAnonymous

      I agree, Jesus is one cool dude.

      October 2, 2011 at 10:42 pm |
  18. Muneef

    By:  Mohammed S. Dajani Daoudi
    Wasatia 
    The Spirit of Islam;

    http://www.ptwf.org/Downloads/Wasatia%20Book%20in%20English%20222.pdf

    http://www.bigdreamsmallhope.com/Wasatia.pdf

    http://www.passia.org/meetings/rsunit/Dr_dajani.pdf

    http://www.ptwf.org/Downloads/Wasatia.pdf

    October 2, 2011 at 6:35 pm |
  19. Muneef

    Quote;
    Can religious leaders play a constructive role?
    by Hanna Siniora – 28 October 2010.

    JERUSALEM – In a message that concluded two weeks of meetings of the Vatican Synod on the Middle East, the bishops declared that Israel should not use the biblical concept of a promised land or a chosen people to justify new settlements in Jerusalem or territorial claims in the West Bank. The statement also expressed the hope that a two state solution could be made a reality.
    Religion const-i-tutes a part of the problem in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. And since it is part of the problem, it also has to be part of the solution. The peaceful concept of coexistence in Islam, Judaism and Christianity, if properly spread and taught by the religious leaders from the three monotheistic faiths, is key to solving the conflict. It is of particular importance to solving the conflicts over holy places and can lead the way to an accommodation regarding the Jewish and Muslim sanctuaries in Jerusalem. 

    In my opinion, religious leaders are the most credible body to spread the peaceful message that diverse religious narratives can coexist because they have the authority to interpret the holy books. Furthermore, religious leaders are not running for elections and are thus safe with their following and able to influence and tone down religious extremism and build harmonious relations. Each religion holds the potential to sow the seeds for a change in public mood amongst its faithful.

    Religious leaders should be encouraged and supported in their efforts both to assume the responsibility of guiding the public towards peaceful coexistence and to play an active and confident role in shaping public opinion. They have to counter religious extremists and political leaders from using the Word of God for their own political ends, to perpetuate and inflame the conflict. 

    In our conflict, narratives diverge and too often lead to the delegitimising and demonising of the Other. At present, religion is used by those who demand sole ownership over the homeland and the holy places, instead of serving as a tool for reconciling and accepting the need to both share the land and respect the religious needs of the three faiths. 
    http://www.commongroundnews.org/article.php?id=28703&lan=en&sp=0

    October 2, 2011 at 6:22 pm |
  20. themadjewess

    @Gay:
    'Again refer to the native american argument to realize how dumb your reasoning is.'

    White people STOLE land here, for SURE.
    Israel has ALWAYS had over 50K JEWS living there, as well as some Christians.
    FAKEstinians are from Jordan, Syria and Egypt, THEY wondered into a DESERTED land. The Jews from the farthest parts of the earth came from ALL over (it fulfills prophecy, whether YOU like it or not)
    It is THEIR land, that is what the year 5772 means. That is what Rosh Hoshannah is all about.
    Face it nimrod, if it were not for the JEW, you would not even know how to wash your hands.

    October 2, 2011 at 12:16 pm |
    • gayjesus

      Nope. Jew committed genocide against the Canaanites to get the land and used their religion to justify it. They killed men women and children. Over 750.000 Palestinians were displaced when Israel was gifted the land by the British and the U.N. The "Empty State" theory, as it has been called, that you referred to was made up in the 1970s by Christian Zionists in the United States.

      This isn't a prophecy, this is a reality and fact. The British kept records on populations in their territories.

      It's OK, keep making justifications if it helps you sleep better at night.

      And it's "wandered" not "wondered". I wondered how you figured out how to use a computer if your argumentative skill is any reflection of your intellect.

      October 5, 2011 at 12:08 am |
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