September 26th, 2011
04:41 PM ET

Google makes 5 Dead Sea Scrolls searchable

By Kevin Flower and Izzy Lemberg, CNN

Jerusalem (CNN) - In a perfect blending of 21st-century advances with the cutting-edge technology of an earlier age, starting this week internet users can, for the first time, use Google search and scanning technology to examine five manuscripts from the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Google and the Israel Museum unveiled the project Monday in Jerusalem with the launch of a museum website that allows users to interact with the ancient texts in a way impossible just a few years ago.

"You have the capability with high-resolution definition to look at the scrolls in a comfortable setting - to enlarge them, to magnify them, to translate them into English and to search for words, phrases or verses that you want to find on your own," said James Snyder, director of the Israel Museum. "It really allows for your own interactive research with the material."

Made up of 30,000 fragments from 900 manuscripts, the Dead Sea Scrolls are considered by many historians to be one of the most important archaeological finds ever made.

The ancient manuscripts, made of leather, papyrus and copper, were first discovered in 1947 by a nomadic shepherd in a cave near the Dead Sea. In the years that followed, more scroll fragments were located.

Dating back over 2,000 years, the scrolls reveal details about the development of Judaism during the Hellenistic period and shed light on the relationship between early Christian and Jewish religious traditions.

The Israel Museum is home to eight of the manuscripts that are considered to be among the most complete and best preserved. Snyder said the museum and Google began working on the project six months ago.

"It's becoming a much more simple process than it used to be," Snyder explained. "With camera technology today, to do this kind of high-resolution imagery is not that difficult."

The most important of the museum's manuscripts, known as the Great Isaiah Scroll, contains the oldest known written text of the Bible. On the new museum internet site users can search the scroll with keywords. Clicking on the Hebrew text pulls up English translations of every verse.

Snyder said he hopes putting the collection online will attract more visitors to the museum and make the concepts in important texts more accessible.

"It shortens the formidable distance between an individual out there in the world and an object of such unique significance," he said.

For Google it is not the company's first foray into bringing its technology to bear on historic artifacts. A year ago the company announced collaboration with the Israeli Antiquities Authority to scan and catalog its collection of thousands of Dead Sea Scroll fragments, and the company has worked with Israel's Holocaust Museum, Yad Vashem, to put its photo collection online.

Yossi Matias, Google's head of research and development in Israel, says projects like these are in keeping with the company's mission.

"Our bigger goal is to take all heritage cultural information and make it available online," he said. "We are connecting people worldwide to the scrolls. ... In a way, you get engagement between people (today) and the people who wrote these scrolls over 2,000 years ago."

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Bible • Israel • Technology

soundoff (446 Responses)
  1. noodlez

    BTW, not one word of the bible or any other religious text was written by God, or jesus for that matter. All religious texts are a creation of man made agenda. Think about it. Then think about how far you are willing to go to prove to the world and your fellow man, that what you believe is the correct version.

    God wrote only one set of blueprints, and that is the the blueprint for life. Not how you are to live that life, but life itself.
    And to set you on your way, God gave everyone free will, the will to think for yourself.

    so, how can you say that what man has created trumps the will of God. That in itself is blasphemy.

    Think about it before you go bashing someone else's beliefs.

    September 27, 2011 at 2:17 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "All religious texts are a creation of man made agenda."

      Some would say that agenda is God and the text inspired by God.

      September 27, 2011 at 3:08 pm |
    • Kyle

      too bad this magic god couldnt get the texts right

      creates an entire universe but cant keep a story straight in his book


      real good job this god of yours did

      September 27, 2011 at 7:28 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      No one said that God wrote them now did they? Try and keep up.

      September 27, 2011 at 8:56 pm |
    • Anon

      And there goes the mental gymnastics to defend their crazy faith.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:42 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @Anon- I know..and these atheists aren't even good at it. I wonder why they bother.

      September 28, 2011 at 1:48 pm |
  2. Marc

    My interest in these scrolls is they're some of the oldest and most complete found. My interest in them is to see how it compares to the present day old testament. The root of it as opposed to what any man might have edited for their own purposes in the years following, or what man might have deemed wasn't appropriate to be in it. The biggest flaw in any religion is the books are written by man, not god himself, maybe getting as close to the original book as you can could help with that somehow..? I don't necessarily believe in religion, but if you're going to follow it, follow what the book originally said, not the brainwashing someone else is reading into it.

    September 27, 2011 at 2:15 pm |
  3. Jugger

    "I believe two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not entirely sure of the former" – Albert Einstein

    September 27, 2011 at 2:11 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      And you quote a man that couldn't accept that the universe is expanding. Even though his own equations made it clear it was. Good job.

      September 27, 2011 at 3:10 pm |
    • Kyle

      and you believe in the bible

      so about this insult you just tried to push

      September 27, 2011 at 7:29 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      And what do you mean by believe?

      September 27, 2011 at 8:57 pm |
    • Anon


      September 27, 2011 at 9:43 pm |
  4. Kenny

    Have they found the one from Mel yet? Last I heard he threw his in the Pacific Ocean in Malibu.

    September 27, 2011 at 2:09 pm |
  5. Harry

    Oh look the bible... ZZZzzzzZzZzzzzzZ! Boring!

    September 27, 2011 at 1:53 pm |
    • Aaron

      Don't worry. Nobody is going to ask you to use your brain - Oh look, Sponge Bob Square Pants is on!!!

      September 27, 2011 at 2:12 pm |
  6. David

    The level of hate between the posters here is amazing. How can all of you be so certain in your position that you can do nothing but insult your fellow human from behind your anonymous ID? Would you say these things to your neighbors if they were there in front of you? The lack of respect for others is truly driving our civilization down. Perhaps you all (Swain, hippiepoet, rightturnclyde, Aguest9) just need to take a deep breath and count to 10 before lashing out again. You all believe in something different. Does it really make that much of a difference what name you call your god or goddess, or if you even call him or her at all?

    Please go unplug for an hour and go talk to a person face to face and maybe try and retain some civility.

    September 27, 2011 at 1:48 pm |
    • Mplh89


      September 27, 2011 at 4:11 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      I don't hate a single person on here. Don't know anyone well enough on here to really like or hate them.

      September 27, 2011 at 4:48 pm |
    • RightTurnClyde

      Is it insulting for me to say Thank You Lord for letting me see the Dead Sea Scrolls and to thank those who made it possible? If so then I am insulting. I do not consider it insulting when someone calls me an idiot and unpublishable words to return the words to them. I consider it MY RIGHT to be a Christian and THEIR RIGHT not to be - I ask the same of them. I am a Christian because I believe in God and not because of who runs for president or governor. And not because some one (I consider dumb) yells ignorant things at me. I do not think I have been insulting people (but I have not been lying down and being a door mat either). So please respect me and I will respect you (collectively)

      September 27, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
    • Anon

      Christians are victims of an ancient telephone game.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:45 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @Anon- Why would you say that?

      September 28, 2011 at 1:49 pm |
  7. Bill

    Can you cast a magic spell with these scrolls like in Dungeons and Dragons?

    September 27, 2011 at 1:12 pm |
  8. woot

    Good lord how many religion related deaths will this cause???

    September 27, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Probably none.

      September 27, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • Anon

      Almost a billion in between the 2,000 years since it was magically made up.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:57 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      No Anon. Considering that the scrolls were not found till the 1940's...I believe you statement is quite factually incorrect.

      September 28, 2011 at 1:51 pm |
  9. RightTurnClyde

    Lord than You for allowing us to see the Dead Sea Scrolls in English and to see the works of your excellent Hebraic servants in our language. Thank you Lord for inspiring King James and Wycliffe for the English translation of your gospels and Acts and prophets. It is a beautiful literary work as well. Thank you Lord that I was born to a family that loves your and follows your word. Thank you Lord for the Jesuits who teach your Word and your faith as part of their undergrad curricula. Thank you for the Moody Bible Ins. which researches and publishes your Word. Thank you for such wonderful bible teachers as Vernon McGee and Rev. Schuler and for the few but ever so devoted Christians who do your work and help others in their walk. Thank you Lord for all that we receive. Amen.

    September 27, 2011 at 11:52 am |
    • joey

      thank you, amway

      September 27, 2011 at 1:10 pm |
    • tactstl


      September 27, 2011 at 1:12 pm |
    • Bill

      Haha, you said research and Lord in the same paragraph.

      September 27, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
    • Conrad

      Joey- You provided us all with the quote of the day. Thanks for your humor.

      September 27, 2011 at 1:48 pm |
  10. hippypoet

    Uncouth Swain
    "i know more about history and religion then you, and i can proove it and once more i am willing to"
    "Sure sure hippy. But do it after your nap time when you aren't so kindergarten-like."

    lol, so you can't just proove your knowledge... lol, that pretty much sounds like my 5 year old... in other words, you have no knowledge of such things but love to believe in things that you don't understand... or you could show your knowledge of your faith to which your life is based on... if you can't, just say so!

    September 27, 2011 at 10:03 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Lol...I at least know how to use the reply button properly...+1 for me

      And I already presented information. I am sorry that it wasn't grand enough for you but what do you want? A full accounting for the scrolls? Good grief man...if you even began to understand how huge of a collection we are talking about you wouldn't even imply such a thing.

      September 27, 2011 at 10:13 am |
    • hippypoet

      you avoid giving an answer all you want, all your prooving is that you know nothing.

      September 27, 2011 at 10:14 am |
    • kimsland

      That's right Uncouth Swain
      I'm not alone.
      The new age (ie the present understanding) is that religious viewpoints are on the down and down.
      And atheists (total belief that there is NO god, AT ALL) is on the rise.
      We don't need our children to read EVERYTHING any more, we now realize that some things are just pure common sense and accepted. Religion does not fall into that category, ever.

      September 27, 2011 at 10:19 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @hippy- I am sorry that I do not know what answer will work for you. I also don't know what answers will work to make a person with apert syndrome happy but such is life. But to imply that I have not answer is quite false.

      @Kim- if the rise of atheism gives you peace and security...good for you. I for one never put much faith into group-think. But if you want to be a new age sheep...have fun with it.

      September 27, 2011 at 10:23 am |
    • hippypoet


      dude, you really are a swain... your answer was a chapter from the bible..not a yes or a no, see one states where to find the answer, and the other is the answer... i asked a question that has an answer, so far, you fail at answering. are you smarter then a fifth grader? answer is not its found on tv.. its a yes or a no, now try again at my question... did noah take 2 of every animal on the ark with him? this isn't hard!!

      the answer because you are clearly dumb as a rock is no, noah did not take 2 of ever animal on ark with him. thanks you playing, you lose...maybe next time Uncouth Swain! LOL gotta love morons!

      September 27, 2011 at 10:36 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      You really don't know what "swain" means do you? Or where my username comes from do you? Oh well.

      1. did noah take 2 of every animal on the ark with him?
      According to Gen. 6:19-20 yes.

      According to Gen. 7:2-3 no.

      You said I failed..at what? I asked for clarification and you failed to give it and resorted to ad hominum. The answers are given...now I wait for you to squirm out some excuses why that wasn't what you wanted.

      September 27, 2011 at 10:58 am |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      GOD is no respecter of "persons" and His Sons, the Gods are ruled over by GOD's first born Son who did eventually become a human being we know and relate to as being Christ Jesus. GOD is ever stretching HIS Embodiment outwardly upon the Sea of Nothingness which we call Outer Space or GOD's Holy Spirit. GOD is in everness laying down the firmament for the creation of a "New Earth" made from the Universes which float amid HIS Holy Spirit, this Sea of Nothingness. GOD needs no Beings of Humaneness such as our likes, yet His first born Son who ended up becoming our Life's Savior found us to be worthy of saving despite our faultiness sins.

      The Lord Christ Jesus took it upon Himself to stand in the FATHER's way and die for the redemption of mankind. He, Christ Jesus died upon the Cross of Calvary for the redemption of all life here upon this lonely yet fertile place we call Earth(Gaia) and she, Gaia, has lain the firmament of her being to be the heavens of her Heavenliness for our sake's kind when we are found deadened to the world. Gaia takes it upon her firmaments' being, the places of safe harborage for all the souls and spirits of the lost to be found safe passages to her heavens due the Lord Christ Jesus patronage way.

      Our Bodies are but buildings and some of these building like bodies are temples yet in otherly terms our bodies are the Kingdoms of the Gods.

      Mat 6:33 "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."

      1Cr 3:9 “For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building.”

      1Cr 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?"

      Luk 17:21 "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is inside/within you."

      Within or inside us lays the very foundations of the Kingdoms of the Gods, GOD's Sons. They, the Sons of GOD have framed up all of Life upon this celestial plain of Gaia's Heavenly Abodes. In our body's depth does lay the works of cellular sized universes, the children of the Celestial universes made manifest and alive with the Gods, their family and servants and subjects. We are their living cosmos, buildings and temples and kingdoms.

      September 27, 2011 at 11:04 am |
    • joey

      just another idiot

      September 27, 2011 at 1:12 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      Only the idiotic Imbecile would candor one an idiot,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Cheers,,,,,,, ! 🙂

      September 27, 2011 at 1:46 pm |
  11. myklds

    I know that there are people who don't have enough belief in God but honestly, I could hardly believe that there are really people who compeletely don't believe in God.

    Thanks God...there are only few of them.

    As I google them, I find the number so insignificant and immaterial.


    September 27, 2011 at 9:41 am |
    • kimsland

      Since atheists know more about barbaric religious beliefs than religious people do.
      I'll just inform you that less and less people are sacrificing their sundays and going to church. Obviously you should say that those people must be going to hell? HA, oh dear, what a loser you are.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:45 am |
    • ThinkForYourself


      You do realize that there are a LOT of gods that you don't believe in, right? We're pretty similar, me and you – I just believe in one fewer god than you do. And if you really find it so hard to comprehend that people don't believe in the same things that you do then maybe you should try to be a little less close-minded.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:54 am |
    • AGuest9

      There are more than "a few" people who don't believe in a god. Their numbers are growing every day, thanks to the hypocrisy of religious teachings. Should you love your neighbor, or slaughter them by the thousands? It depends on which page of that book you open and read.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:59 am |
    • hippypoet

      @ThinkForYourself the proper quote is this...

      Stephen F Roberts: “I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”

      September 27, 2011 at 9:59 am |
    • Fred1

      Here’s one for you. I am totally and completely sure that the Christian god does not exist. This is all based on evidence and so is much more than beliefe

      September 27, 2011 at 11:28 am |
    • joey

      ever heard about 1.6 billion chinese ?

      September 27, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
    • Sybaris


      Your Google must be broke.

      2/3 of the world doesn't believe in your god

      September 27, 2011 at 2:03 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @Sybaris- Do you always think the masses are correct? Shaky logic to follow group-think.

      September 27, 2011 at 3:12 pm |
  12. hippypoet

    oh Swain, heres a real simly question for ya – did noah take 2 of every animal on the ark with him?

    September 27, 2011 at 9:31 am |
    • kimsland

      Here's another question to him
      What is his definition on an atheist?
      Mine says that there isn't a god. Pretty sure he wants proof for that. Ha Ha Ha Um, since its beyond obvious I'll just say, keep believing that fairy tales may be true (idiot)

      September 27, 2011 at 9:42 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Which chapter are you referencing?

      September 27, 2011 at 9:51 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "Mine says that there isn't a god."

      Oh Kim...you are so adorable in your foolishness. I would never ask you to prove there is no God. But I will ask you to prove the unsaid declaration you are making. Prove that someone created the concept of God. Plz...do not forget to cite your scientific information on when the concept was created, why whom, where and why. Good luck with that.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:53 am |
    • hippypoet

      your freaking sad... just answer the question, the answer is found in the bible, you know the book you base your LIFE on... somethings you should just know, others should have to look up, but forming a lifestyle on a book then not knowing anything from it without having to reread it or look it up is well, sad... the answer is a very simply one too... come on, i'm sure you can do it! did noah take 2 of every animal with him on the ark? its a yes or a no type answer, but if you would like you can add further details to your yes/no answer...

      September 27, 2011 at 9:57 am |
    • kimsland

      Uncouth Swain, god was made from fear. (and weak minded people)
      No one really wants to die (except of course terrorists who get virgins when they die?!)

      EVERYONE is scred of dieing. Yes some people try to accept it (sick and the elderly) BUT they don't just blow themselves away at 10 years old. WHY? Because who wants to die? (again unless you're sick etc)

      Religion is all about fear, and the unfounded promise of afterlife.
      I thought this was obvious to everyone.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:59 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @hippy...the only thing is sad is that you don't get the reason why I am asking for which chapter you are referencing. Plz go and check the story again..I am sure the discovery you make will make a few of your dulled neurons fire up some and you may learn something new.

      September 27, 2011 at 10:03 am |
    • hippypoet

      lol, yup like i said, you can't answer it because you don't know. just admit the truth and god shall set you free, but lieing will be the end of you soul.

      September 27, 2011 at 10:06 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @Kim- "god was made from fear. (and weak minded people)"

      Can you prove that...or is this your opinion?

      "No one really wants to die (except of course terrorists who get virgins when they die?!)"

      Hmm, more precise might be that no one wants their existence to end.

      "EVERYONE is scred of dieing. Yes some people try to accept it (sick and the elderly) BUT they don't just blow themselves away at 10 years old. WHY? Because who wants to die? (again unless you're sick etc)"

      There are some that give in to the Absurd you know. (Albert Camus)

      "Religion is all about fear, and the unfounded promise of afterlife."


      September 27, 2011 at 10:06 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @hippy-"lol, yup like i said, you can't answer it because you don't know. just admit the truth and god shall set you free, but lieing will be the end of you soul."

      Oy..I take it you aren't going to look it up. Fine, as always with rebellious and ignorant children...let me help: Genesis 6:19-20 and then if you are able go over to Genesis 7:2-3

      September 27, 2011 at 10:09 am |
    • hippypoet

      good creature, now give the freaking answer... bet you get it wrong!

      September 27, 2011 at 10:11 am |
    • kimsland

      Well that's your belief Uncouth Swain.
      Keep having your strong FAITH and strong opinions in what YOU think is correct.

      What I KNOW to be correct is that there is no god.
      How do I know this? Because I'm not an idiot like you. To me there's not even the slightest possibility what so ever that Jesus walked on water and these found scrolls are somehow important to people other than just old history of tales that were made up and exaggerated beyond normal common sense.

      September 27, 2011 at 10:12 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @hippy- I just did 😉

      @kimsland- no..you are arrogent and don't know. You presume.
      You also make the common error in as*suming I am a literalist. I am not. I know that will confuse you since you have your script all laid out for those that are literalist. Usually it's at this time the real thinkers rise to the occasion but I doubt you are one of them.

      September 27, 2011 at 10:16 am |
    • hippypoet

      dude, you really are a swain... your answer was a chapter from the bible..not a yes or a no, see one states where to find the answer, and the other is the answer... i asked a question that has an answer, so far, you fail at answering. are you smarter then a fifth grader? answer is not its found on tv.. its a yes or a no, now try again at my question... did noah take 2 of every animal on the ark with him? this isn't hard!

      September 27, 2011 at 10:19 am |
    • kimsland

      Yes Uncouth Swain, teach your well educated peers what you feel is right.
      I'll continue to direct my words at religious people and children that religious belief is wrong.
      Pretty sure my area will give the best results, as yours requires years of reading, mine is instant.

      September 27, 2011 at 10:26 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "you really are a swain"

      ~I'm a shepherd? Reference Milton if you just get curious.

      "your answer was a chapter from the bible..not a yes or a no, see one states where to find the answer, and the other is the answer"

      ~You did ask a question, but not a precise question. I gave you the best answer I could considering your ignorance. Meaning, the way you asked the question prosecutor doesn't leave only a yes or no answer. Sorry you do not see that.

      "i asked a question that has an answer,"

      ~Yes...but as I said, under the manner of your asking it doesn't mean the answer is something you have yet to consider.

      "answer is not its found on tv.. its a yes or a no, now try again at my question... did noah take 2 of every animal on the ark with him? this isn't hard!""

      It is quite apparent to me that the answer is not found on tv but what is apparent is that you do not know how to ask questions. Maybe you'll finally get it but until then...this is fun.

      I am

      September 27, 2011 at 10:31 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @kim-"Pretty sure my area will give the best results, as yours requires years of reading, mine is instant."

      Answers that begin and end with one's ego are usually instant.

      September 27, 2011 at 10:32 am |
    • hippypoet

      so your saying that the way i asked the question "did noah take 2 of every animal on the ark with him" your gunna tell me that this question is not a yes or no type one... ok, well that about does it for me, i can't waste any more time with one of your stupidity, it will start to make me learn less as i will only revisit the KNOWLEDGE i have already and during i will on;y question more the life you have choosen for yourself as the believer in a religion you know nothing about.

      the question was and still is a VERY simply one that you couldn't answer, you gave the spot to where the answer could be found and that by any standards is not an answer but a direction, me being a COLLEGE teacher would fail you in half a heart beat!

      September 27, 2011 at 10:42 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Lol....you child are no college prof. They at least know what they are asking.

      I shouldn't do this but I will help you along. So horrible to have to hand hold a prof..lol

      1. did noah take 2 of every animal on the ark with him?
      According to Gen. 6:19-20 yes.

      According to Gen. 7:2-3 no.

      There are your answers. I bet they aren't what you wanted though but you have only yourself to blame prof...haha.

      September 27, 2011 at 10:54 am |
    • QC

      Uncouth Swain, how can you base any belief on so evidently misleading informations??? In the same book, both in Genesis, and saying exactly the opposite??? Come on...

      September 27, 2011 at 2:03 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @QC-"how can you base any belief on so evidently misleading informations"

      I don't.

      September 27, 2011 at 3:13 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Well...hippy disappointed me. I had hoped he would return so we could continue this bit of fun 🙁

      September 28, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
  13. kimsland

    "Their children shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes!
    There houses spoiled, and their wives r@ped...
    Dash the young men to pieces...
    have no pity on the fruit of the womb, the children shall not be spared"
    - Isa 13:16-18

    And this one
    "...They shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child (pregnant) shall be ripped up!"
    Direct quote from YHWH (God) - Hosea 13:16

    But this is one of my favorites (sarcasm intended)
    “..To Fear the Lord is wisdom”
    –Job 28:28

    Ha Ha Ha Ha, now that's funny.
    But no no, you guys continue on believing this rubbish, even with all the wise words below (ie "What the Bible says about Children)
    I'm sure your kids must love you for these horrible things. Oh that's right you teach your children to love the lord more than to love their own parents, now that is sick.

    September 27, 2011 at 8:49 am |
    • kimsland

      The bible (and therefore religious belief and following the bible, and any other scrolls) is SICK and disgusting.
      I pity all that follow such an idiotic belief, for they are surely most definitely, weak minded fools.

      Poor poor christian fools, open your eyes up. There is no made up god that you follow.

      September 27, 2011 at 8:55 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Kim..do you ever actually read the whole of the texts?
      To what kind of ppl is the Isaiah text directed toward..does God say he is going to do the actions you cherry pick?
      As for Hosea...does God say he is going to do that to Samaria?
      And of course "fear" does not mean the type of fear that is "oooh scary". It's about a fear of respect and the kind that comes from being in awe.

      It's so sad that ppl like Kim give atheists a bad name because they are too lazy to actually study before yapping.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:10 am |
    • hippypoet

      @Uncouth Swain....

      well come on then, show us your grand knowledge!

      September 27, 2011 at 9:13 am |
    • kimsland

      Cherry pick?
      What are you talking about? The entire of the bible is ludicrous, from start to end.
      As for some old scrolls, yes they and the bible belong in a museum, quite obviously.
      Which part do you want me to read up on? I'll make it quite clear to you, There is NO god.
      These 'words' of religion came from Israel and all over the Middle East, these people are still stupid even today.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:37 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "There is NO god."

      You are more than permitted to have faith in that notion Kim. I don't think anyone is stopping you from that belief.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:55 am |
    • kimsland

      Thanks Uncouth Swain
      Now to tell the world 😀

      September 27, 2011 at 10:01 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Please go and find a new spokesperson though...you are not up to the task.

      September 27, 2011 at 10:10 am |
    • kidsplayground


      Little kids tend to cry when they could hardly figure out on things around them.

      But they (kids) are rather understable than some who are so-called grown-ups down here who yap on things they failed to fully comprehend.

      I think Kim fails to fully understand the passages he quoted from, as well as the entire bible itself) that's what made him an atheist.

      In other words, atheists don't only have lack of belief but also common- sense.

      September 30, 2011 at 1:50 am |
  14. hippypoet

    Uncouth Swain

    "You obviously know little about the scrolls and their historical significance."

    what do you know...before you start talking sh1t to anyone, you might not want a center stage for this conversation... i have read your posts and find most if not all to be less then historically sound and your knowledge of christianity is less then that of your historical knowledge because you tweek facts to suit your beliefs and or ideas... so if you DO know something about the VERY important dead sea scolls then lets here it.

    i would be honestly impressed if you knew anything abuot them aside from where they were found... thats an easy one! 🙂

    September 27, 2011 at 8:42 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Thank you for you factless opinion about me hippy.
      You mean you don't know what the Essenes wrote about them? That the scrolls shows a crossroads in religion and politics? Rome was coming down hard on the ppl of the time and it comes through in the eschatological writings found in Qumran.
      Heck, one can learn about the historical impliments from the scrolls and that their was a plan to hide them from the romans.
      You have literature, history and theology within those texts and you don't care. Or maybe you are just ignorant of their importance. Seems that sometimes we are not very far from the book burning days of last century.

      Don't study the scrolls hippy, clearly literature isn't important to you.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:17 am |
    • hippypoet

      i know more about history and religion then you, and i can proove it and once more i am willing to... so as i already said i thnk 2 times now, show us your grand knowledge of these scrolls...of anything ... i would be impressed to see any true knowledge come from you.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:23 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "i know more about history and religion then you, and i can proove it and once more i am willing to"

      Sure sure hippy. But do it after your nap time when you aren't so kindergarten-like.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:56 am |
  15. What the Bible says about Children

    Children who refuse to obey their parents must be executed.

    If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. - Deuteronomy 21:18-21

    He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. - Exodus 21:15

    He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. - Exodus 21:17

    Children who mock their parents will have their eyes plucked out by ravens and eaten by eagles.

    The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out, and the young eagles shall eat it. - Proverbs 30:17

    Like Abraham, parents should be willing to kill their children for God.

    And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and ... offer him there for a burnt offering.... And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son. - Genesis 22:2,10

    God killed all the firstborn children in an entire country.

    The LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon.... And there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead. - Exodus 12:29-30

    Sometimes God kills children for misbehaving.

    And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. - 2 Kings 2:23-24

    Someday God will force parents eat their own children.

    And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat. - Leviticus 26:29

    And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters. - Deuteronomy 28:53

    And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend. - Jeremiah 19:9

    And then there's this statement, which could only be found in the Bible:

    Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. - Psalm 137:9

    September 27, 2011 at 5:57 am |
    • Reality

      "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." Matthew 19:14

      Mark 10:13-16

      New International Version (NIV)

      The Little Children and Jesus
      13 People were bringing little children to Jesus for him to place his hands on them, but the disciples rebuked them. 14 When Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. 15 Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.” 16 And he took the children in his arms, placed his hands on them and blessed them."

      See http://wiki.faithfutures.org/index.php?t-itle=020_Kingdom_and_Children for a short review about the historic authencity of these passages.

      September 27, 2011 at 7:20 am |
    • youthechristians

      Talking about childrens, I read this sign the other day:
      It's fine to have one.
      It's fine to be proud of it.
      But please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around.
      And PLEASE don't try to shove it down my children's throats.

      September 27, 2011 at 1:48 pm |
  16. TruthPrevails

    So the Dead Sea Scrolls were found...this proves nothing more than the fact that the buybull was written many many many many many many years ago. Written by men...no divine intervention required. Personally I think these would serve well to start some fires, maybe provide some warmth to a child...it's about all they are worth to society today!

    September 27, 2011 at 5:37 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Oddly enough, you are not far from being a Nazi or even those Christians that burned Harry Potter books. You just throw in the idea that temporary physical warmth overides stoking the fires of the mind bu actually studying the scrolls.

      September 27, 2011 at 7:53 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      My point is that the recovery of these is not worth much more than for it to be kindling. Nazi is rather harsh considering Nazi's killed people. However that said, it is only my opinion and if people wish to read these scrolls, so be it. I believe the christians will claim it as more proof of their god/s and unfortunately, that is not the way it is (imo).

      September 27, 2011 at 8:31 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      I don't think I was being harsh considering my reference had to do with their well known book burnings.
      I just don't understand this foolish notion that I keep seeing on these pages. All literature should be protected when it can. I don't care if it was the handwritten scrolls of an ancient Essene, the original manuscript of Charles Darwin or the Bill of Rights of the United States.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:25 am |
    • TruthPrevails

      I do apologize for misunderstanding and am in full agreement that literature needs protected.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:43 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Tis cool.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:58 am |
  17. Awkward Situations

    Whatever. It's pretty cool that they're digitally preserving this because it's a part of our human history no matter how much we like or dislike it. I'm all for the preservation of ancient books and words. Good job Google.

    September 27, 2011 at 2:05 am |
    • Dr.K.

      Exactly. Well said.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:09 am |
  18. gupsphoo

    Once again, what the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls proves is this BS has been around for a long time. So what?

    September 27, 2011 at 1:59 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      You obviously know little about the scrolls and their historical significance.

      September 27, 2011 at 7:54 am |
    • AGuest9

      Why should their "historical significance" be any more than to show how people lived in one small part of the world during the bronze age? Genesis is no more proof of creation than the Kuba people of Africa who claimed that their god Mbombo vomited the sun, the moon, stars, a leopard, an eagle, a crocodile, a fish, a tortoise, a black panther, a white heron, a scarab, a goat, and many white men.

      September 27, 2011 at 10:07 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Your reference of Genesis is faulty since there really isn't a scroll that had Genesis in it. There is the Genesis Apocryphon but it's not the same thing.
      Anyway...I would think a culture that eventually changed the layout of the world would be noteworthy. Heck...no human culture should just be shuffled off into the darkness.

      September 27, 2011 at 10:20 am |
    • AGuest9

      I do not doubt it's faults, but it is the first book of both the christian bible and the jewish pentatuch. Many of both traditions rely upon it literally as "the word of god".

      September 27, 2011 at 10:53 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Most Jewish teachings usally doesn't take the scripture in a strictly literal sense. That always seems to be a Protestant Christian stance which I don't agree with personally.

      September 27, 2011 at 11:01 am |
  19. Bo

    ========@DavidJ======================= If you are stii there,I must have not been clear, The ancients didn't make the mistakes, modern translaters made the mistakes. (What I'd like to know, do they intend to correct the imistakes, it was said the mistakes were minor, I don't know what that means.)

    September 27, 2011 at 1:06 am |
  20. Answer


    I understand you. Along with the rest of those that are to your exact way of thinking.

    You are vexed with science. You are mad at science and you blame it.

    Firstly your kind believes that the past under religious rule was harmony. That is why you made mention of the harmony of the native and of primitives of the lands. Secondly you are finally realizing that science is encroaching upon your secured interests. Or so you thought were secured. It never was. Like that illusion of / about harmony.

    I posted in a different topic about this condition. You better believe that science is here to get rid of your religion!
    I'll ask you all this once again... why are you afraid of science? It can not be just that you do not understand it. Anybody can learn. That is a fact. So why?

    September 27, 2011 at 12:03 am |
    • RightTurnClyde

      Wrong oh answer man. I have undergraduate coursework in math, natural science, biology, the physics of sound, chemistry, biochemistry, electrical theory, electronics and the physics of accident reconstruction (mostly math). What is YOUR undergraduate science transcript. I have a private pilot's license and an instrument rating (lots of meteorology, physics of flight, engine mechanics). I Sailed the Atlantic in 99 .. you need to understand meteorology rather well, Bernoulli principle, damage control, navigation (trig), rhumb line math (speed-time-distance), celestial navigation (noon shots)(star shots), did 3 Newport Ensenada races, earned a BS in computer science, earned MPA (designed and implemented water supplies) NOW YOU TELL ME your science transcript since you are such a learned sage. Why are you afraid of God?

      September 27, 2011 at 1:49 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Wow. What an ego. WrongTurn, you seem to think you ARE God.

      Obnoxious twit.

      September 27, 2011 at 9:15 am |
    • AGuest9

      OK, RightTurn. I have undergraduate coursework in electrical engineering and modern physics, as well as a graduate degree in engineering and additional graduate work in nanotechnology. I had a private pilot's license and an instrument rating. I sailed the Atlantic in 94 on a Ranger 26, and each of the Great Lakes during the 80s, as well as the North Atlantic on a research vessel.

      I STILL have no need for a god.

      September 27, 2011 at 11:04 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      You are of the Order of the Lakes. Would you also one of the Sons of Neptune or be of the Order of the Blue Nose?

      September 27, 2011 at 11:08 am |
    • RightTurnClyde

      It is hard for me o believe you sailed an ocean and still think you are the center of the universe. But if that's all the more you can see it is your issue. I believe in God and in the Trinity. I have prayed to God many times at sea .. especially in the South China Sea. I have thanked God almost every day for the wonderful life he gave to me and my miraculous family. What you or Uncouth do is your business .. I have a great respect for science than you but I also know it is quite limited.

      September 27, 2011 at 11:35 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @RightTurnClyde- I was just asking him if he had crossed the equator or the arctic circle.

      September 27, 2011 at 11:41 am |
    • AGuest9

      Neither Neptune, nor Blue Nose.

      September 27, 2011 at 12:20 pm |
    • AGuest9

      @Clyde – Who said anything about the center of the universe? That's out there, billions of light years away.

      September 27, 2011 at 12:24 pm |
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