By Dan Gilgoff and Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editors
(CNN) - On our sister blog The 1600 Report, CNN's Alex Mooney notes a discrepancy in the official White House transcript of a California fundraiser Monday night, during which a person who heckled President Barack Obama was escorted out by security.
Here's the White House transcript's account of the heckler:
AUDIENCE MEMBER: The Christian God is the only true living God, the Creator of the heavens and the universe.
But Mooney observes that the White House pool report records the heckler as being much more blunt, yelling "'Barack Obama is the Antichrist!"
The president interrupted his remarks at the fundraiser, held at Los Angeles' House of Blues, to respond to the heckler.
"First of all, I agree Jesus Christ is the Lord," Obama said. "I believe in that. I do have a question, though. I think the young man may have left his jacket... "
Ironically, the remark about Obama as the Antichrist came the same day that The New York Times ran an op-ed arguing that the Antichrist is assuming a bigger place in the public discourse, as evangelical Christian ideas about the end times gain traction.
In a piece titled "Why the Antichrist Matters in Politics," Washington State University history professor Matthew Avery Sutton argues that, for some Christians, Obama fits into ideas about the Antichrist, whose arrival is believed to be a portent of the end times and Jesus' second coming:
For some evangelicals, President Obama is troubling. The specious theories about his place of birth, his internationalist tendencies, his measured support for Israel and his Nobel Peace Prize fit their long-held expectations about the Antichrist. So does his commitment to expanding the reach of government in areas like health care.
The op-ed was the most e-mailed piece on nytimes.com for much of Tuesday.
In the 2008 campaign, Republican presidential nominee John McCain released an anti-Obama ad called "The One" that ridiculed Obama for what it said was his messiah complex. Some critics claimed the spot was a veiled attempt to paint Obama as the Antichrist, though the McCain camp denied it.
What do you think? Is there a gathering movement to paint the president as the Antichrist? Are such charges overblown attempt to discredit Obama's critics?
Read Mooney's full report here.
He should have practiced witchcraft and pray-away-the-gay
Pesudo-Buddhism is not better than Pesudo- Christianity
The anti-Christ? So he's like the opposite of Jesus? So he WON'T send us to Hell simply for not believing in him?
Think about that : he was chosen by God to be President of America 🙂
we are already there !!
FROM THE ARTICLE:
" Ironically, the remark about Obama as the Antichrist came the same day that The New York Times ran an op-ed arguing that the Antichrist is assuming a bigger place in the public discourse, as evangelical Christian ideas about the end times gain traction.
In a piece ti-tled "Why the Antichrist Matters in Politics," Washington State University history professor Matthew Avery Sutton argues that, for some Christians, Obama fits into ideas about the Antichrist, whose arrival is believed to be a portent of the end times and Jesus' second coming "
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So... I can truly understand if you don't care for our President's policies/politics, etc... But, are you fcking kidding me... that there are actually people that not only believe in the anti-christ non-sense, but... that Obama 'is' the anti-christ...?
Really... ? Holy sh!t !!! We have a bunch of crazy wing-nuts that believe this malarkey, and can also vote. 😯
People often ask us agnostics/atheists... why we care about what you evangelical Christians 'believe'...?
Well, now you know. It's not whether or not you believe in a Creator or God, at least for me, it's more about the 'irrational attributes' of what you describe your God as and the insane 'content' of your 'beliefs' (Obama 'is' anti-christ) This is yet 'another sign' about the ending of rational thought and doesn't bode well for the future collective sanity of our society.
Peace...
Hey, Christianity is the place to be if you think your sister/brother or mother/father are hot. After all, 2 people populated the entire world and then 1 family repopulated the world after the flood. Tell me how that was accomplished without a little sister lovin'? Good thing genealogy hadn't been invented yet, because Adam and Eve's family tree must have been on hard MFer to draw!
Maybe, just maybe, if we all stopped acting like idiots, pointing fingers at each other, calling each other names, looking for someone to blame and spent our time looking for solutions........we must just find some........go figure..........
just a thought.
How ?? How can you change a big fat Panda to a Kongfu Panda?
training and a big fat stick!
Obama as the AntiChrist? Was there so little 'real' news that this even makes it to print? The 'fundamental' Christians don't need any more precieved fodder to not vote for Mr Obama. For the other 99.5% of America, I would hope that some discussion of issues might be appropriate.
I am color blind when it comes to race. I have no problem with Barack Hussin Obama being part black. I do have a problem with him being Muslim, and intentionally trying to break the USA bringing us down to a third world country. All the billions of dollars he has given away has done nothing to help the poor middle class. We are continuing to lose jobs, homes, and hope. We need to send the ll.5 million illegal aliens back to Mexico, bring our troops home to protect the borders, cut out give away to other nations except for catastrophic events. Charity begins at home !! Repeal NAFTA and bring those jobs back to america. Keep our military strong. God Bless America, and if this offends you, move back to where you came from, we speak ENGLISH here!!!
Scary stupid.
carpetmuncher would be a more appropriate handle. 1st amendment rights allow any person to practice any faith they want....so what if he is a muslim? This country is not a christian nation. You are a prime example of why religion should be abolished.
claybigsby.....you are obviously muslim, why don't you take your insanity back to wherever you came from. AND WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT THIS NATION WAS FOUNDED ON CHRISTIAN BELIEFS. I believe there are a lot more Christians than there are of your type I WOULD RATHER BELIEVE IN CHRIST, THAN NOT BELIEVE, AND FIND OUT AT MY DEATH I WAS WRONG. Are you saying the Forefathers of this country were wrong and we need to change what made this nation great?
oy yoy yoy, more with the religion in politics business. when will you stop this nonesense – as if it has anything to do with anything. there are homeless, jobless people out there and the situation was made horrendous on bush's watch. was he the antichrist? no, just a bumbler. so, give it a rest and try to say something to help the nation.
Since America refuses to spend more money on education, I think other countries should really step in and fund education directly here. It will surely be beneficial for the human race. Our country is very wealthy, but there are too many of us who are not quite using the scientific method properly..and in fact painting America as nation of neanderthals. And the problem is not so much that there are stupid people here, but it's that stupid people are leaving their houses. I'm sure if this story were found in any other developed country, the local government would surely overhaul its education system on this event alone.
“You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor."
From The Ten Commandments, found in Exodus 20:16
What's that mean?
The antichrist, if there is one is the entire Republican Party, a group of uneducated stupid boobs, who still think the earth is flat and you can fall off the edge, as many of them apparently have.
NICELY STATED!
Not all of us deeply religious, evangelical Christians are crazy. I'm one and I voted for Obama because I believe he's got the most Christ-like views of how to show people what self-sacrificing love really is. Pretty incredible for a President.
you just stated that you voted for obama cuz "I'm one and I voted for Obama because I believe he's got the most Christ-like views"......this right here makes you a dumb...ass.
Folks – if you do believe in Christ, if you do believe in the bible and all it professes – then you're all really missing the point. The scripture clearly points out that NONE of us will know the time and place of Christ's return. NONE of us can know or guess or figure out what God and Christ have planned. All Christ would have wanted is for people to treat one another with respect, forgiveness and understanding. THAT is what it means to be a Christian – the rest of this is just garbage that humans are dreaming up to try and sound intelligent. It really couldn't be any clearer. Just go about your business, do unto others, observe the golden rule and let the true powers of this universe do their work. There's nothing you can do to help it, stop it or alter it in any way – so why make other people miserable? Just sayin.....
Couldn't agree more with this statement.
Bush is the antichrist and Palin & Perry are his demons. The T-bag and right-wing continue to limit OUR God by their narrow, close minded views. Jesus said he was the Alpha & Omega. Not a neo-conservative!
I like Bush. He 's cute.
They see the antichrist everywhere they want to see him. They fail to see the spirit of the antichrist in their own hearts and minds. They hate the speck, and stumble over the log straight into their own pit.
Dear baby jesus....
We could only hope that he is the anti-christ and he is going to put an end to all of the idiots out there. Kill them all and let whatever god you want to sort them out!!
God bless American.
God bless President Obama.
How can anyone actually take this topic seriously? Oh, I forgot, this is an American website...
How can anyone actually take this topic seriously? Oh, Let's have fun 🙂
For the time being! If Barack (Hussin) Obama is re-elected, put your head between your legs and kiss your ass good-by. All he needs is one more term to complete his task. Hopefully he will be impeached for treason. In my opinion this is the worst president we have ever had. Prior to ruining this country, excuse me, running this country, he has never even managed a pizza parlor. Just my opinion........
Barack Obama is a real Anti-pseudoChrist!
Another effort to rid America of Democrats. What's New??
Again,
The term “anti-Christ” is found the New Testament epistle, known as First John and refers to a group of former Christians, who were now claiming that Jesus did not come in the flesh. (They seem to have held that Jesus’ body was spiritual, not fleshly and not entirely human.)
John refers to these individuals who were saying that Jesus didn’t come in the flesh, as anti-Christs.
(The Gospel message was that Jesus was fully human, but he was also the son of God and was, therefore both human and divine; and, that he died as a sacrifice, to take away the sins of the world.)
The anti-Christs were also teaching that it was acceptable to hate their brothers, for John condemns this and writes that no one can say that they love God, if they hate their brother or sister, who, incidentally, are made in the image of God.
John’s point: Jesus did take on the form of a human being, just like the rest of us, and he died as a sacrifice on the cross, experiencing all of the pain and suffering any human would experience.
John’s point was, therefore, believe in Jesus and love one another.
or just love one another and treat one another with respect...no jebus required.
Are you saying he was saying ot love even your enemies? Well, that is a big shocker for modern Christians. What say you, O Pharisees?
The NEW testament? You mean when God realized he totally misjudged mankind and completely rebooted his own religion?
Barry, your omnipotent sky fairy creature can't actually sacrifice anything if it's really omnipotent, nor would it need to. And the scapegoat thing, that was taken from earlier supersti-tions. Not even original.
Believe in your whackjob religion all you want, you nutcase. The smart people of the world put that nonsense away a long time ago.
James, great point. Funny how the sheeple allow their "god" to get it wrong first time around. Heads of major organizations get the boot often, for mistakes on that scale.