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A movement to paint Obama as the Antichrist?
President Obama reacts as he's heckled at a Los Angeles fundraiser Monday night.
September 27th, 2011
04:54 PM ET

A movement to paint Obama as the Antichrist?

By Dan Gilgoff and Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editors

(CNN) - On our sister blog The 1600 Report, CNN's Alex Mooney notes a discrepancy in the official White House transcript of a California fundraiser Monday night, during which a person who heckled President Barack Obama was escorted out by security.

Here's the White House transcript's account of the heckler:

AUDIENCE MEMBER: The Christian God is the only true living God, the Creator of the heavens and the universe.

But Mooney observes that the White House pool report records the heckler as being much more blunt, yelling "'Barack Obama is the Antichrist!"

The president interrupted his remarks at the fundraiser, held at Los Angeles' House of Blues, to respond to the heckler.

"First of all, I agree Jesus Christ is the Lord," Obama said. "I believe in that. I do have a question, though. I think the young man may have left his jacket... "

Ironically, the remark about Obama as the Antichrist came the same day that The New York Times ran an op-ed arguing that the Antichrist is assuming a bigger place in the public discourse, as evangelical Christian ideas about the end times gain traction.

In a piece titled "Why the Antichrist Matters in Politics," Washington State University history professor Matthew Avery Sutton argues that, for some Christians, Obama fits into ideas about the Antichrist, whose arrival is believed to be a portent of the end times and Jesus' second coming:

For some evangelicals, President Obama is troubling. The specious theories about his place of birth, his internationalist tendencies, his measured support for Israel and his Nobel Peace Prize fit their long-held expectations about the Antichrist. So does his commitment to expanding the reach of government in areas like health care.

The op-ed was the most e-mailed piece on nytimes.com for much of Tuesday.

In the 2008 campaign, Republican presidential nominee John McCain released an anti-Obama ad called "The One" that ridiculed Obama for what it said was his messiah complex. Some critics claimed the spot was a veiled attempt to paint Obama as the Antichrist, though the McCain camp denied it.

What do you think? Is there a gathering movement to paint the president as the Antichrist? Are such charges overblown attempt to discredit Obama's critics?

Read Mooney's full report here.
- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Barack Obama • Belief • Christianity • Politics

soundoff (2,491 Responses)
  1. Alah

    How can there be an antichrist if there is no christ? Jesus please protect from your crazy followers

    September 28, 2011 at 11:36 am |
  2. holycow

    are we really having this conversation??????????? I'm with MythBusters!

    September 28, 2011 at 11:36 am |
  3. Chach

    The real "anti-Christ" is the right-wing, teapublican, fundamentalist, evangelical Christian movement in this country. They are the polar opposite of EVERYTHING Christ taught, stood for and died for. Piety, humility, charity, tolerance, meekness and passivity. Today's "Christians" are NONE of these things. In fact, they ridicule and vilify ALL of those traits as weaknesses. The anti-Christ is not one man, it is a movement that claims Jesus for themselves then judge and spite all others that dare oppose their views. The anti-Christ are many and they are the Neo-Conservative movement.

    September 28, 2011 at 11:35 am |
    • USAConservativesAreNotChristian

      You are spot on. Thank you for your post.

      September 28, 2011 at 11:41 am |
  4. Curt

    The noble peace prize is a little over top when you consider all the innocent civilians murdered in Iraq and Libya..

    September 28, 2011 at 11:35 am |
  5. Beverly Tatum

    These so-called "Christian" Republicans don't even know their Bible. The Antichrist does not come from within America. But hell – just change the Bible to read how it best fits your lunatic hate-filled agenda. If you have not learned yet that Republicans are LIARS and TRAITORS to the PEOPLE yet – you have been brainwashed to ignore the FACTS they want you to ignore. What the Republican Party has become is horrifying and dangerous. Their damage to America and We the People is of Biblical proportions.

    September 28, 2011 at 11:35 am |
  6. bristoltwit palin... America's favorite dancing cow

    ...snort...

    September 28, 2011 at 11:35 am |
    • u r a nutjob

      that was dancing?

      September 28, 2011 at 11:37 am |
  7. Kool Aid

    Dear CNN...I have once again had several attempts at posting to your blogs blocked by some process of yours, as numerous attempts at posting have failed. However, I haven't reveived any notice that my posts are blocked.

    In the future, could you kindly do me the favor of letting me know when you plan on censoring me? I think it is absurdd that you would not allow my posts when they clearly contain no profanity and nothing else that would violate your policies.

    September 28, 2011 at 11:35 am |
    • u r a nutjob

      Why don't you drink the kool-aid?

      September 28, 2011 at 11:38 am |
    • Davethecanuck

      Some children prefer to hit the "report abuse" button when they read a comment they don't agree with.
      This I believe is the most common reason why some posts are removed even when they don't violate the TOS.

      September 28, 2011 at 11:40 am |
  8. ajgorm

    Where do all our souls go when we die do you simply think they vanish into thin air ?

    September 28, 2011 at 11:34 am |
    • Beverly Tatum

      Republicans have no soul. They have become haters of the PEOPLE and worship at the altar of corporations who buy them. In Biblical terms, they are the Money Changers in the Temple that Jesus threw out in anger. We should do the same in 2012 and get these hypocritical Republicans out of every office so America and the People have a chance to recover.

      September 28, 2011 at 11:39 am |
    • Knucklehead

      What's a soul?

      September 28, 2011 at 11:41 am |
    • Counting Wizard

      Can you prove you have a soul and that you are simply not a self-aware chemical reaction?

      September 28, 2011 at 11:41 am |
    • ledzep

      What you call soul is bunch of ectrical impluses in brain, and yes we all simply vanish in air when we die. God and religion is simply a creation of human mind, so is Jesus, Allah and others...... they were simply people like you and me.

      September 28, 2011 at 11:42 am |
    • David Johnson

      @ajgorm

      You said: "Where do all our souls go when we die do you simply think they vanish into thin air ?"

      Christians believe in an immaterial soul. They believe this soul is our ident_ity or mind. It is essentially, "who we are". The essence of our personalities. The soul is "released" when we die. God decides if our soul will go to Heaven or Hell. Evidently, our souls are given a physical body, that we might enjoy eternal bliss or torment.

      There is no evidence for a soul. Our obviously material brains contain all that we are. All that we have experienced, all that we have learned, all of our perceptions. When we die, our brains cease to function. We no longer exist. All that we were, is no more.

      Evidence to support this argument, is that disease, drugs, and injuries affect our ability to think. Our personalities to change.

      Cerebral palsy occurs when babies' brains are deprived of oxygen. Consider an Alzheimer's victim. The disease destroys the brain. The victim loses the ability to recognize their loved ones. In the last stages, many even lose the ability to swallow.
      If our mind and personality was immaterial and separate from our physical bodies, our thinking and personalities would not be affected.

      Our brains are constantly generating thoughts. Brain chemistry determines our emotions. We can't really tell, that these thoughts and emotions originate in our brains. It's easy for Believers to perceive thoughts and feelings, generated by their brains, as coming from outside themselves. *sigh* Jesus? Is that you? LOL!

      Evolution, with its evidence of transitional fossils, geological column, DNA evidence, vestigial organs etc., is very damning to the biblical Creation Story.

      If god created all the organisms on the planet, then He must have created even the diseases that have caused and are causing so much death and misery for humans and animals. He would have had to fashion the tick and the flea. The mosquito and blood flukes. And worms that bore into a child's eye.

      How could an all good god do such a thing? Why would He spend His time creating gruesome things to cause human suffering? Yet, these horrors exist. And if god didn't create them, who did?

      Evolution explains the diversity of the planet's organisms, including the pathogens and the parasites that have caused so much human death and misery.

      If the Creation Story is a fable, then Adam and Eve did not exist.

      If Adam and Eve did not exist, then there was no original sin.

      If there was no original sin, then it cannot be the reason god allows so much suffering in the world. We can dump the guilt trip.

      If there was no original sin, then there was no need for a redeemer.

      If there was no redeemer, then Christianity is a based on a false premise.

      "If we cannot believe in the First Adam, why believe in the Last [Christ]?" 1 Corinthians15:45

      If the Creation story is a myth, then there is no reason to believe any of the bible.

      If we evolved, there is no soul –> no afterlife –> no need of a heaven or hell.

      LOL, which is why the Evangelicals fight so hard against evolution.

      The whole Christian religion is built on a house of cards.

      Cheers!

      September 28, 2011 at 11:43 am |
    • ledzep

      Also, check out the story on today's front page on http://www.mit.edu. It talks howwe learn and gets comfortable with various experiences in terms of frequencies of brain waves.

      September 28, 2011 at 11:44 am |
    • Counting Wizard

      Actually, every response to this is wrong. How can you know anything for certain? My point of view from a scientific standpoint is just as valid as the view from a spiritual standpoint, the difference is I'm willing to admit it. Think really hard about it: There could be a god or any other range of possibilities, and this entire life experience is just a deception. You can't prove that it isn't if I perceive the whole experience to be a deception. But if I accept the experience at face value, then what we've collectively observed from nature through the scientific method is that we are complex organisms that have thoughts due to neural activity.

      September 28, 2011 at 11:49 am |
  9. Michael

    People who are religious already believe in magic, this is just a tiny step. How do you make them realize how ridiculous they are? I have no clue.

    September 28, 2011 at 11:34 am |
    • Damian

      Good point.........it is crazy stuff........but that's their choice.

      September 28, 2011 at 11:43 am |
  10. nymrod

    wacky azz americans.

    September 28, 2011 at 11:34 am |
  11. jracforr

    The Antichrist is simply the opposite of christ and his teachings, and the Book Of Revelation contrast the teaching of Christ and his doctrine of the KINGDOM OF GOD with BABYLON . Therefore the builders of BABYLON past and present would be candidates for the post of ANTICHRIST. The first ANTICHRIST would have been NEBUCHADNEZZAR king of Babylon, and all who seek to imitate his system of world domination. It may be good politics to paint President Obama as the antichrist but the shoe does not fit, a more suitable candidate for the post would be LOUIS IVX , king of France and opressors of the FRENCH PROTESTANTS. His quest for world domination laid the foundation for the FRENCH REVOLUTION

    September 28, 2011 at 11:34 am |
    • Ron Stuart

      Science and Evolution.....I think it's sad that when well over half of the country doesn't believe in macro evolution, that Huntsman and other public figures are so quick to jump on the evolution bandwagon. I've done a significant amount of research on the subject, and while there is no real question that micro evolution exists (i.e. small changes/adaptations in a species over time), there is no real evidence to support macro evolution (i.e. a species morphing into a completely different species over time). Case in point, if macro evolution exists, then where are all of the missing link/transitional forms? They don't exist!!!!!!...and the most prominent evolutionists admit this. I would be willing to debate any scientist on this subject. They may hold to thier belief that they sprang up from an ape....but I for one believe strongly in a divine creation.

      September 28, 2011 at 11:38 am |
    • David Johnson

      @Ron Stuart

      You said; "Science and Evolution.....I think it's sad that when well over half of the country doesn't believe in macro evolution, that Huntsman and other public figures are so quick to jump on the evolution bandwagon. I've done a significant amount of research on the subject, and while there is no real question that micro evolution exists (i.e. small changes/adaptations in a species over time), there is no real evidence to support macro evolution (i.e. a species morphing into a completely different species over time). Case in point, if macro evolution exists, then where are all of the missing link/transitional forms? They don't exist!!!!!!...and the most prominent evolutionists admit this. "

      Biologists,paleontologists, anthropologist among others have also done a significant amount of research on the subject. Gee, I wonder who is right? LOL

      Macroevolution = Lots of Microevolution + Lots of time.

      Here is a list (not complete) of transitional fossils:
      http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html

      Keep in mind, that if a god created each organism once, in its present form, there should be NO transitional fossils. Why would there be? Did an all perfect god need to keep creating organisms until He got it right?

      You statement about most prominent evolutionists admitting there are no transitional fossils is bogus.

      Your god is very unlikely to exist.

      Cheers!

      I would be willing to debate any scientist on this subject. They may hold to thier belief that they sprang up from an ape....but I for one believe strongly in a divine creation.

      September 28, 2011 at 12:18 pm |
  12. SpellCheck

    When calling someone else and idiot, you ought to run a spell checker before hitting send. Just a suggestion.

    Freedom of religion applies to the consipiracy theorists, too. Let them have their fun – it only really matters when people start taking their opinions as fact.

    September 28, 2011 at 11:34 am |
  13. LiberalNN

    The Anti-Christ is much smarter than Obama.

    September 28, 2011 at 11:33 am |
  14. Ran

    Even Jesus thought he was living in the end times....why does every Christian generation feel as though they are living in the end times, when time after time each generation is proven wrong. That's over two thousand years of being wrong. That's just sad and pathetic.

    September 28, 2011 at 11:33 am |
    • xatch

      how ignorant you are my friend. Jesus know everything, so how do you think that He was like us? He knew that the end of times was something for several years ahead of Him. Read, before talk.

      September 28, 2011 at 11:42 am |
    • David Johnson

      @xatch

      You said: "how ignorant you are my friend. Jesus know everything, so how do you think that He was like us? He knew that the end of times was something for several years ahead of Him. Read, before talk."

      Apparently not.

      Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

      Hmm... Jesus may not have known the day or the hour, but He did predict a 1st Century return.

      A number of New Testament passages indicate that Christ was supposed to return before his generation had died. This would have been sometime in the first century AD.

      First, there is the testimony of Jesus himself, who explicitly stated that some of his disciples would not die until Jesus inst_ituted the Kingdom, and that his generation would not pass away until all his prophecies of the end of the world had been fulfilled:

      Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

      Matthew 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

      Jesus' speech in 24 and 25 was given, when He was alone with His disciples.

      Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

      Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

      In this discourse, Jesus makes a number of assertions about the fate of his disciples. One of the signs of the end would be the persecution of his disciples:

      Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

      While tradition records that the disciples were persecuted and martyred, this was not followed by the return of Christ, as he promised. Would they die for a lie? Apparently... LOL.

      The Apostle Paul, too, seemed to think that Christ would return for his generation:

      I Thessalonians 4:15-17 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
      Note that Paul twice uses the phrase '...we which are alive and remain...'.

      This seems to preclude the theory that Paul was speaking of some far future generation. Paul made a similar assertion in First Corinthians:

      I Corinthians 15:51,52 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

      Note that Paul said that '...we shall not all sleep...'. In other words, he expected that at least some of his generation would not see death. Again, there is nothing in the text to indicate that Paul was speaking about some far future generation.

      Paul reiterated his belief in a soon return of Christ in the Book of Romans:

      Romans 13:11-12 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.

      The other New Testament writers had similar thoughts about the iminence of Christ's return:

      James 5:8 Be ye also patient; establish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.

      I John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

      I Peter 4:7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.

      The Apocalyptic Book of Revelations repeatedly has Christ saying that he would return soon:

      Revelation 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly....

      By no stretch of the imagination can 2,000 years be considered 'quickly' LOL

      To say That a thousand years is like a day to the lord, is dumb. A thousand years is not like a day to humans.

      Jesus was wrong. Jesus has been really busy being really dead, for the last 2,000 years.

      Cheers!

      September 28, 2011 at 12:27 pm |
  15. CC

    It is said the anti-Christ is to come from the sea– that is by no means is Obama, but very well may be Bin Laden... he was buried at sea...

    September 28, 2011 at 11:33 am |
    • JF

      Bin Laden is coming back from the dead too? Great...

      September 28, 2011 at 11:37 am |
    • Damian

      Holy Crap!!!

      September 28, 2011 at 11:44 am |
  16. FoolKiller

    PAINTED as the Antichrist? So tell Obama to drop the brushes...

    September 28, 2011 at 11:32 am |
  17. Ed Galbraith

    "...the antichrist..." The term itself exposes Christianity for what it is...a man-made kind of voodoo subscribed to by millions of people filled with age-old fears about death, devils, eternal suffering etc....ad nauseum. Get a life.

    September 28, 2011 at 11:32 am |
  18. carl white

    baaaaaa,moooooooooo .religous nut cakes,

    September 28, 2011 at 11:32 am |
  19. FoolKiller

    Obama isn’t competent enough to be the Antichrist. However, he has given it his best effort.

    September 28, 2011 at 11:31 am |
  20. pugsley

    I think CNN has it backwards. Every time Obama comes on the TV my Mom and Dad say "Jesus Christ"!!!

    September 28, 2011 at 11:31 am |
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