By Dan Gilgoff and Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editors
(CNN) - On our sister blog The 1600 Report, CNN's Alex Mooney notes a discrepancy in the official White House transcript of a California fundraiser Monday night, during which a person who heckled President Barack Obama was escorted out by security.
Here's the White House transcript's account of the heckler:
AUDIENCE MEMBER: The Christian God is the only true living God, the Creator of the heavens and the universe.
But Mooney observes that the White House pool report records the heckler as being much more blunt, yelling "'Barack Obama is the Antichrist!"
The president interrupted his remarks at the fundraiser, held at Los Angeles' House of Blues, to respond to the heckler.
"First of all, I agree Jesus Christ is the Lord," Obama said. "I believe in that. I do have a question, though. I think the young man may have left his jacket... "
Ironically, the remark about Obama as the Antichrist came the same day that The New York Times ran an op-ed arguing that the Antichrist is assuming a bigger place in the public discourse, as evangelical Christian ideas about the end times gain traction.
In a piece titled "Why the Antichrist Matters in Politics," Washington State University history professor Matthew Avery Sutton argues that, for some Christians, Obama fits into ideas about the Antichrist, whose arrival is believed to be a portent of the end times and Jesus' second coming:
For some evangelicals, President Obama is troubling. The specious theories about his place of birth, his internationalist tendencies, his measured support for Israel and his Nobel Peace Prize fit their long-held expectations about the Antichrist. So does his commitment to expanding the reach of government in areas like health care.
The op-ed was the most e-mailed piece on nytimes.com for much of Tuesday.
In the 2008 campaign, Republican presidential nominee John McCain released an anti-Obama ad called "The One" that ridiculed Obama for what it said was his messiah complex. Some critics claimed the spot was a veiled attempt to paint Obama as the Antichrist, though the McCain camp denied it.
What do you think? Is there a gathering movement to paint the president as the Antichrist? Are such charges overblown attempt to discredit Obama's critics?
Read Mooney's full report here.
peace be with you.
Come Unto Christ
lol, oh i'll come on christ, just point him out! then i'll get the pope too! him and his little hat!
LOL. If Christ was some hot blonde (or brunette) girl, then I think we all would.
Obama is probably not the anti-christ ... he's probably just a radical, lying, ambitious, narcissist, con man, who will say, or do anything, in order to gain, and hold onto his personal power ... even if it means destroying America in the process !!!
Howard – In other words, just like everyone else.
aaahhh... the words of an elementary school child trying to look tough, smart and run with the big kids....
Jim, Since you are running right there beside him, I suppose YOU would know...
oh no, watch out kids, jim has a pope up his @ss... thats why he is all grumby! plus with that old german stuck up there he can't even crack a smile.. well not the normal kind, he can still do the inverted smile, but you have to see it from the back!
i think he likes it! he feels as if "god" is in him.
ussssa
Slithering
fool says in his heart that there is no God.....
Right. Smart people say it in their brains
so a fools heart can talk huh... thats interesting!
Your comment is meaningless and your grasp of grammar is poor at best and childish.
wow! a "poet" trying to be snarky about an obvious literary device...wow....so smart, so intelligent...wow...stunned by intelligence.....
Sao
And yet you would likely also say "God is love". Love is an emotion, ergo God is also an emotion. Sounds about right to me.
And just where was the reporters and coverage when people said the same against Bush? Odd how it only "comes up" when it is a Democrat......
Because with Bush, people wheren't, hmm I don't know how to put this properly, they meant it, but on a level they knew it was BS? But with this there are radical idiots who believe this. You know, the ones who think God has an Issue with people and wants them to SMITE THEE, because being all powerful god can't do it himself.
Sorry but that explanations is.....flawed to be nice about it. People really thought so with Bush. Just because you don't think so doesn't make it any less true. People thought that Hitler and Mussolinni made up the anti-x, Clinton was the ac, Bush, Jimmy Carter, etc. But oddly enough, only when it is a Democrat in the WH does it ever surface with the press. hhhmmmmmm.......
Jim – Did you just recently learn to read? Or, perhaps you are so young that you never saw the news stories about those exact same idiotic ramblings applied to every president since Nixon! If ignorance is bliss, you must be the happiest person on earth!
Dubya actually matches the scripture pretty well, if you accept him as a failed antichrist whose followers turned from him and elected a Christian as president.
If Josh Hamilton threw a ball into the stands towards Obama, none of this would matter.
Some folks just need to make him the world's biggest enemy to justify the world's greatest hostility towards him.
Obama is probably not the anti-christ ... he's probably just a radical, lying, ambitious, narcissist, con man, who will say, or do anything, to gain, and hold onto his personal power ... even if it means destroying America in the process !!!
I don't see the Anti Christ in Obama but look at the Anti Christian teachings that the Tea Party promotes. What does Jesus mean when he talks about feeding the hungry, giving the thirsty drink, taking care of the sick and the old. It does not mean to fix the economy on the backs of these very people, for what you do to these people you have done unto Christ.
What does Jesus mean when he says you cannot serve God and mammon? Does that mean we should vote for every politician that promises he will put another dollar in our pockets... or would we vote for someone that will take care of the hungry, thirsty, and poor.
Jesus didn't say these things to make himself feel good. His teachings are pure and the more man tries to conform them into mans ideas the farther way from God this country will be.
People say that a Christian shouldn't vote with their Christian beliefs because that forces those beliefs on non believers. I say my vote is the one thing that I have to help those in need. I will put my vote to the most Christian person running... but I doubt that person will be wrapping himself in religion as most anti christians do. As for those that serve mammon, they also vote with their belief in man and money thus forcing their views and Gods wrath on me... we need to vote with Jesus in our hearts and not mammon.
peace be with you.
Come Unto Christ
What's a mammon?
Ahhh... and you label yourself as Informed.
That is ok... I was 'informed' once too and the spirit converted me. Reconciled all the world in my mind to God. I pray someday you will open your heart just enough that God's spirit and love will fill your soul.
Mammon is KJV – era English term for money or riches that would be the time-period equal of money.
I thought you are informed?
there is no gravity...no oxygen...no magnetic field....no hatred....no pain...no suffering...no discouragement...THINK!!!!
I see the drugs real strong today. Stay off the keyboard until the room stops looking like a box of flowers.
The gravimetric oscilations do frquently oxygenate the levers leaving malformational dichotomies of resoluted discontenters to preamblings of affirmational discontinent's land amassings to aquiescences godheadedness of proportionalism. 🙂
Galileo was christian. So was Newton and Mendel.
svann – Galileo a christian? If you say so! When you consider that he would have been promptly executed if he had said otherwise, that makes your presumption quite debatable! The Catholic church vowed to execute him for his evidence and support of the geocentric theory! The only thing that saved his life was his public denouncement of the geocentric theory and his re-affirmation of the heliocentric theory! But, on his deathbed, he recanted that and admitted that the Earth did indeed revolve around the sun! So, was he really a christian? I seriously doubt it!
this is the best post yet..with yet another great reply!
whose this god person any how?
so i was wondering the other day, while taking a poo.. and i thought to myself, why was there already poo in the bowl before i was here? and then a voice said – i god placed that poo there so all would know that I god have made poo. then i asked, AND WHAT, BECAUSE YOUR GOD MEANS YOU DON'T FLUSH – HOW RUDE!
what a crappy god!
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u r a nutjob
Why call it "take" a dump, when you leave something behind?
I see the elementary school has let the kids onto the computers again....
oh come on, i thought this was funny.. everyone takes "god" so seriously yet none follow what the dude said and did... its high time we make some fun of this terrible morbid conversation.
Obviously you thought you were funny but in within the confines of reality – your childish humore belongs back in your classrooms. Most adults wish to at least attempt to speak with people who act someone intelligently. In the end, it isn't really about the "God issue" it is about your lack of intelligence and maturity that drives you to spout out tripe that one hears in the school cafe between little kids who are trying to "one-up" each other with mother jokes. It is a sign of a lack of an integral part of humanity within you.
I wouldn't go around performing the equivalent garbage making fun of atheists beliefs even though most of the atheists I have found throughout the colleges, blogs, Humanist Society and writers like Hitch, Dawkins and Harris have even less evidence for their positions as Xians do for theirs or Muslims do for theirs. Why do I not act like you? – because I am a grown up and take my fellow man as someone to have love and respect for.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: The Christian God is the only true living God, the Creator of the heavens and the universe.
Yet, to this day...unproven to be true.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: The preceding post was brought to you by a nut job
We haven't even had the war of Gog and Magog yet...which is pre antichrist..so unlikely Obama is antichrist
Are you the Keymaster?
How's Gozer the Gozarian doing?
First there is GOZER the Traveler. He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg!
If someone invented instant water, what would they mix it with?
LOL..They already have...it's called hydrogen....light it and..Presto...water!
Ripping off an 80's comedian is dump. At least Wright was stoned when he asked the question.
There is no God. There is no Devil. There is no Heaven and there is no Hell................... except that which we make for ourselves. Religion was mainly used as a way to control the masses through fear. The fear of Hell, or, some other undesirable fate after death. Religion was developed because Man has no faith in himself. It is much easier to put your faith into something that cannot be seen, felt, or heard. You don't need proof of it's existence. All Holy Books in the world were written over the course of many lifetimes by many different people. They each put their own interpretation on it while trying to stay within the limits of what was written before. The Earth is NOT 6000 years old like most biblical scholars believe. It is in fact BILLIONS of years old as proved by science. But, hey,........ if people wish to cling to something that is outdated then more power to them. It just proves that those people have no faith where it really counts................ in themselves.
The only thing worse then someone preaching about god, is someone preaching about there being no god.
Get a life.
actually, I doubt most biblical scholars believe that the earth is 6000 years old. Not everything thinks everything in the Bible should be taken literally.
Here's to you Merrin – Aaahhhhh... The sweet but RARE words of SANITY ! It is encouraging and very refreshing to read such an intelligent post! I was afraid that our once great country was completely devoid of sanity and intellect and all of our intellectuals had been replaced with ignorant, mindless stooges who actually believe the horrendous pile of excrement that the rabid racist self-righteous right wingers have been spewing. This gave me back some of my lost failth in humanity! Thank you.
Sanity? ROTFLMAO!
The pretend knowledgable one has found an even more silly person to pat him on the back! lol
1. Most biblical scholars don't think the Earth is only 6000 years old and,
2. His ramblings are nothing but pure, unadulterated, unprovable and unsupported tripe. An opinion ne is free to accept and express as any other opinion but opinions are like bellybutons – everyone has one and truth isn't found in a bellybutton.
Sir, what do you believe when you see a person being born or when someone dies and you go to the funeral home, can't you see how helpless someone is. One thing for sure is that you will find out one day and I hope that you change your mindset before that happens. I said all in the love of the father
An angel once told me there was no god.
Jesus of Nazareth secretly always hated Obama.
'Jesus of Nazareth' as a character of mythology never hated anyone. That was his schtick.
Just a combination of racist drivel and consiracy nuts trying to profit on the fears of the weak minded.
"Just a combination of racist drivel and consiracy nuts trying to profit on the fears of the weak minded." -religion defined.
If pro is the opposite of con, is progress the opposite of congress?
Apparently so young padawan, apparently so.
I see that you are old enough to remember Gallagher! Thumbs up.
Sorry I meant Arabic not Hebrew.
He can't be the Antichrist because I am.
NU UH, I am
If you're supporting Obama, you probably are !!!
No I am.
This is a conversation that already happened with Bush. There was a book published called "Why George W. Bush is the anti-Christ." In it, the author make a very compelling argument relating Bush's royal family heritage, his name converted to ancient Hebrew text that can then be converted to a number scale where it adds to 666, and many other factors. This book was so convincing that the Pope even declared Bush as the anti-Christ. So if this is true then Obama would be the second coming of Christ, something interesting to think about.
Reading books written by morons doesn't make you any more intelligent. You know that, right?
I think you mean the second coming of the ANTI-CHRIST !!!
@David Do you get a free tin foil hat when you buy that book from Amazon?
What about Ronald (6) Wilson (6) Reagan (6)? 666, plus he was shot in the head and recovered. Add him to the list...
Watch out David, the poster "Ryab" is sure that no one thought that Bush was REALLY the anti-x so the book doesn't exist!
He's not the "anti-Christ" but he is one of the people that is helping the anti-Christ system to come into place. The 666 in Revelations that God said would be his name if translated into Arabic is ALLAH. And the method of killing the Anti-Christ system use's to kill all that will not worship him is beheading the same as Islam
Nah, you just need to help me throw the ring into the fire.
So God is the anti-Christ? lol
Dumbledore for god. That's my vote. He's already more popular than christian god. But Gandalf is OK too.
God bless you, but bearing false witness against your neighbor is a sin.
David, christian god is supposed to have send Jesus to be killed, and god supposedly has power over everything that happens. so I guess that does make god the antichrist.
God=antichrist. That's true, when you think about it.
Stephen, aren't you the self-righteous little pimple.
You are not a "christian". A true christian is not a hateful and intolerant individual seeking unexistant religious associations to mix with politics. What you appear to be is an ignorant, hateful idiot.
al-Lah just means "the Lord." God likes it when you make up Scripture, I guess.
No, Stephen's correct. Calling someone 'the antichrist' when you don't actually believe he IS the antichrist, but just want him to lose the election is definitely 'bearing false witness.' God loves a cheerful liar, I guess.