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A movement to paint Obama as the Antichrist?
President Obama reacts as he's heckled at a Los Angeles fundraiser Monday night.
September 27th, 2011
04:54 PM ET

A movement to paint Obama as the Antichrist?

By Dan Gilgoff and Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editors

(CNN) - On our sister blog The 1600 Report, CNN's Alex Mooney notes a discrepancy in the official White House transcript of a California fundraiser Monday night, during which a person who heckled President Barack Obama was escorted out by security.

Here's the White House transcript's account of the heckler:

AUDIENCE MEMBER: The Christian God is the only true living God, the Creator of the heavens and the universe.

But Mooney observes that the White House pool report records the heckler as being much more blunt, yelling "'Barack Obama is the Antichrist!"

The president interrupted his remarks at the fundraiser, held at Los Angeles' House of Blues, to respond to the heckler.

"First of all, I agree Jesus Christ is the Lord," Obama said. "I believe in that. I do have a question, though. I think the young man may have left his jacket... "

Ironically, the remark about Obama as the Antichrist came the same day that The New York Times ran an op-ed arguing that the Antichrist is assuming a bigger place in the public discourse, as evangelical Christian ideas about the end times gain traction.

In a piece titled "Why the Antichrist Matters in Politics," Washington State University history professor Matthew Avery Sutton argues that, for some Christians, Obama fits into ideas about the Antichrist, whose arrival is believed to be a portent of the end times and Jesus' second coming:

For some evangelicals, President Obama is troubling. The specious theories about his place of birth, his internationalist tendencies, his measured support for Israel and his Nobel Peace Prize fit their long-held expectations about the Antichrist. So does his commitment to expanding the reach of government in areas like health care.

The op-ed was the most e-mailed piece on nytimes.com for much of Tuesday.

In the 2008 campaign, Republican presidential nominee John McCain released an anti-Obama ad called "The One" that ridiculed Obama for what it said was his messiah complex. Some critics claimed the spot was a veiled attempt to paint Obama as the Antichrist, though the McCain camp denied it.

What do you think? Is there a gathering movement to paint the president as the Antichrist? Are such charges overblown attempt to discredit Obama's critics?

Read Mooney's full report here.
- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Barack Obama • Belief • Christianity • Politics

soundoff (2,491 Responses)
  1. ajgorm

    We squabble too much and we vote stupid plus we now know we voted for the anti christ how much worse can it get ...

    September 28, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
  2. Reality

    And yet again:

    The Book of Revelation is best described by the following:

    "Nineteenth-century agnostic Robert G. Ingersoll branded Revelation "the insanest of all books".[30] Thomas Jefferson omitted it along with most of the Biblical canon, from the Jefferson Bible, and wrote that at one time, he "considered it as merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams." [31]

    Martin Luther "found it an offensive piece of work" and John Calvin "had grave doubts about its value."[32]

    Next topic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    September 28, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
    • Barry G.

      Again I say, how fortunate we are to have someone with your expertise and knowledge of the book of Revelation.

      Please tell us how the seven seals function in the book?

      How does Nero or Domitian figure into this book? Or was it another emperor?

      Which wave of persecution is John addressing?

      What is the structure of the book? To what extent is the book influenced by Hebrew thought and to what extent by Greek thought and rhetoric?

      I am delighted to have an expert like you, who speaks with such confidence and conviction about this book.

      And dating, I must ask you about dating. Given the quality of the Greek and the historical allusions, what date would you give to this book?

      September 28, 2011 at 5:52 pm |
    • Barry G.

      I’m so disappointed. You failed to respond to my questions about Martin Luther and John Calvin.

      Surely one with your knowledge can answer the questions I posed.

      Please tell us, how did Calvin reconcile the issues of grace and works?

      At least tell us that!

      After all, you write as if you are an expert.

      Put your money where your mouth is and answer, or admit you are and have been writing about matters of which you do not understand and be silent!

      September 28, 2011 at 5:57 pm |
    • JeramieH

      Hey Barry, how did you decide which version of the Bible you believe in, and which God you chose to believe in? Just curious how one decides what to keep and what to toss.

      September 28, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
    • .........

      plz hit report abuse on all repeat reality posts

      September 28, 2011 at 7:42 pm |
    • Scott - other

      @Barry: One does not have to be a master plumber to know the toilet is broken

      September 28, 2011 at 9:39 pm |
  3. Bible Clown

    Don't make me bop you all with the Clown Hammer™.

    September 28, 2011 at 5:19 pm |
  4. Pope

    hello my children, i have come for only some of you. i love you all, but only some get to come up stairs with me and meet my old man.

    HIPPYPOET,
    what kind of all knowing, all powerful, almight god only has room for "some"
    what kind of all knowing, all powerful, almight god makes someone almost kill there kid to test faith. you would think that the dude knows the outcome and has no need to test. but than again, that means "god" is real, which by simply 5 yr old logic we can prove he is not.

    September 28, 2011 at 4:29 pm |
    • John Richardson

      That's good. Meeting you and your old man is high on my list of things to avoid like the plague.

      September 28, 2011 at 4:44 pm |
    • hippypoet

      here goes, the old testiment god destroyed alot of stuff, the new testiment god has only created... 2 different dudes, ones the sword while the others the hugs. thats a polytheistist! think about it.. and lets argue they are the same dude, then if i was to say oh for instance... god is g@y, jesus was a h0mo, mary was the town chariot, jesus was in a "relationship" with pilate and thats true story behind the nailing... still waiting on my smiting oh lord of lords, oh god of gods – that implies that there ARE other gods. same as the saming that this god is the only true god, again implies that the "others" are just not as cool, strong, powerful, controling, or just an imagine campain. again think about it.

      September 28, 2011 at 4:53 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ hippypoet

      Does not the claymaker destroy a vessel that is cracked and beyond repair?
      Does not an iron worker melt down a broken sword to make anew?
      Does not the tiller of soil ever retill its' firmament to throw new seed in it?
      Does not a woodworker who finds a broken drawer replace it if the cabinet is still good?

      Does not GOD give to HIS Sons all they need and want?
      Did not GOD's Sons build all of our Life's creations made manifested of their Kingdom needs to reside within?
      Are we not but buildings and temples wherein the Sons of GOD do reside?
      Are we not a dispensible building or temple to be discarded after its' use has been fulfilled?

      1Cr 3:9 “For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building.”

      1Cr 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?"

      Did not the very first Son of GOD eventually thru Time, become Christ Jesus?

      You know the whole story of Christ Jesus and if you cae to be a humility or bigoted fool or a blasphemer just to be a part of fashionability's sakedness, then so be it.

      September 28, 2011 at 6:24 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ hippypoet

      Does not the claymaker destroy a vessel that is cracked and beyond repair?
      Does not an iron worker melt down a broken sword to make anew?
      Does not the tiller of soil ever retill its' firmament to throw new seed in it?
      Does not a woodworker who finds a broken drawer replace it if the cabinet is still good?

      Does not GOD give to HIS Sons all they need and want?
      Did not GOD's Sons build all of our Life's creations made manifested of their Kingdom needs to reside within?
      Are we not but buildings and temples wherein the Sons of GOD do reside?
      Are we not a dispensible building or temple to be discarded after its' use has been fulfilled?

      1Cr 3:9 “For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building.”

      1Cr 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?"

      Did not the very first Son of GOD eventually thru Time, become Christ Jesus?

      You know the whole story of Christ Jesus and if you care to be a humility or bigoted fool or a blasphemer just to be a part of fashionability's sakedness, then so be it.

      September 28, 2011 at 6:28 pm |
    • Answer

      @Richard

      Still spamming crap as per usual. How is your ticket to heaven coming along? Did you get a receipt yet?

      September 28, 2011 at 6:42 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ Answer who wrote on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 at 6:42 pm droolingly stating, "Richard, Still spamming crap as per usual. How is your ticket to heaven coming along? Did you get a receipt yet?"

      Still crapping spam I see oh Pope. Wherewithin all of my posts have I ever took a dump on your posts? Unless of course you took the first shot,,,,,,,, Made a reservation I did! How about you Pope? Time is a wasting,,, sure wouldn't wanna be left out with no reservation booking and when you finally decide to,,,,,hurry Pope make your final reservation quickly,,,,,,,,,,Oooops, ALL booked up sorry Pope,,,,,,,,,,looks like your grounded,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

      September 28, 2011 at 7:05 pm |
    • Duh

      “Does not GOD give to HIS Sons all they need and want?”

      No, he doesn’t which is why children are dying every minute on this planet from starvation by the thousands.

      “Are we not but buildings and temples wherein the Sons of GOD do reside?”

      No because your god doesn’t exist and we don’t have a soul.

      “Are we not a dispensible building or temple to be discarded after its' use has been fulfilled?”

      No, I am allowing my love ones to use my ashes to turn it into a diamond.

      September 28, 2011 at 7:14 pm |
    • Duh

      "pope make your final reservation quickly,,,,,,,,,,Oooops, ALL booked up sorry Pope,,,,,,,,,,looks like your grounded,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"

      Huh how do you know it's all booked up where's your proof....................

      September 28, 2011 at 7:15 pm |
    • Answer

      @Richard

      Nowhere did you come and crap onto my posts. The fact is I enjoy crapping on the religious sermons of yours. If you were to take a serious look at my own posts I dispense advice and presumptions on what you have supplied about your life. You have troubles in life. I make comments to help you see the truth of where your passion came from.

      Fear mostly. Which speaks really badly your choice of where to turn. Your 'literature' is a rehash – praise the lord. You won't admit it? Then explain where your position is justified to repost your literature – you want to convert obviously. In doing the antagonizing am I not asserting the opposing force in forcing your hand to not being a zealot? Would you rather I let you rant freely and convert the world? You would have everyone and when that happens who else is there for you to convert?

      So the end is that you would still be alone. No matter how much you convert you'll never be justified to sway the real heart with fear. For your religion is a favorite to your view – you are not convincing anyone that your religion is the truth. Not by a long shot.

      September 28, 2011 at 7:25 pm |
  5. RenegadeFL

    Well if he IS the Antichrist, he's not doing a very good job of it.

    September 28, 2011 at 4:26 pm |
    • DEMONS

      we took a vote and we decided that he was the best for the job of making the next antichrist look really good, so we placed him there to , well, do what he is doing... a fine job!

      September 28, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
  6. Matthew

    Funny. The antichrist is mentioned in the bible only 4 times, and each time, he's described exactly the same-someone who doesn't believe in Christ. I thought Obama was a Christian...

    September 28, 2011 at 4:17 pm |
    • Matthew

      It's amazing how people who haven't even read a book can use it to justify things by completely mashing together different concepts from it... c'est la vie

      September 28, 2011 at 4:20 pm |
  7. Richard S Kaiser

    GOD’s Love

    We should Love GOD because “We are”.
    We are living because of GOD.
    We are learning because of GOD.
    We are seeing our faults because of GOD.
    We are always repentant because of GOD.
    GOD’s Love allows us to be as “We are”.

    You should Love GOD because “You are”.
    You are living because of GOD.
    You are learning because of GOD.
    You are seeing your faults because of GOD.
    You are ever repentant because of GOD.
    GOD’s Love allows you to be what “You are”.

    I should Love GOD because “I am“.
    I am living because of GOD
    I am learning because of GOD
    I am seeing my faults because of GOD
    I am forevermore repentant because of GOD.
    GOD’s Love allows me to be what "I am".

    September 28, 2011 at 4:09 pm |
    • Nonimus

      Why do you think so?

      September 28, 2011 at 4:13 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      Why do I think,,,, period?
      Why do "you" think,,,jotted?

      September 28, 2011 at 4:19 pm |
    • Duh

      We should Love learning because “We are”.
      We are living because of Evolution.
      We are learning because from Evolution.
      We are seeing our faults because we have evolved.
      We are always learning because of Evolution.
      Evolution allows us to be as “We are”.
      You should learn who “You are”.
      You are living because of our ancestors’ triumphs.
      You are learning because we evolved.
      You are seeing your faults because of your intelligence.
      You are ever learning because we continue to evolve
      Loving others allows you to be what “You are”.
      I should learn and evolve into “I am“.
      I am living because of evolution
      I am learning because of my mind is open
      I am seeing my faults because I emotionally evolved
      I am forevermore learning because I have evolved.
      Loving others allows me to be what "I am".

      September 28, 2011 at 4:28 pm |
    • So

      Basically Richard you're life is meaningless because there is no god.

      September 28, 2011 at 4:29 pm |
    • Brother Maynard

      ... or another way of looking at it

      GOD’s Love

      We should Love GOD because “We are”.
      We are dieing because of GOD.
      We are ignorant because of GOD.
      We are blind to our faults because of GOD.
      We are always defiant because of GOD.
      GOD’s Love allows us to be as “We are”.

      You should Love GOD because “You are”.
      You are dieing because of GOD.
      You are ignorant because of GOD.
      You are blind to your faults because of GOD.
      You are ever defiant because of GOD.
      GOD’s Love allows you to be what “You are”.

      I should Love GOD because “I am“.
      I am dieing because of GOD
      I am ignorant because of GOD
      I am blind to my faults because of GOD
      I am forevermore defiant because of GOD.
      GOD’s Love allows me to be what "I am".

      September 28, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
    • John Richardson

      Yo, Richard, don't give up your day job, assuming you have one ...

      September 28, 2011 at 4:33 pm |
    • DEMONS

      I am dieing because of GOD
      I am ignorant because of GOD
      I am blind to my faults because of GOD

      thats a wee bit backwards, see you can't know that you are dieing or ignorant because "god" made it so you are blind to your faults as you said... and just to clarify, death is a fault, its adams fault for not controling his wife more! Lillith would have done as she pleased. shes a much better woman! 😉

      September 28, 2011 at 4:34 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ Duh et al,,,,,,,,,

      Where were you when the universes were created and set floating upon the vast Ocean of Nothingness?
      Where were you when the Firmaments of the Celestial Universes were born out of the Seas of Nothingness?
      Where were you when atomic nebulations began to be cloistered to form the Earth who was once known as Gaia?
      Where were you when the stars were set aflame and divided the Celestial Heaven into Universes?
      Where were you when Life did form and began to alteringly be created and ever recreated by the Sons of GOD who gave to HIS Sons the atomic Cosmos to be their playground?
      You and I and Others and all Celestial Based Life were born of the Inner Spaces configurations of the Fractal Cosmos'built by the Sons of GOD!

      Psa 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight [are but] as yesterday when it is past, and [as] a watch in the night.
      2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

      For in the realm of GOD only a few days are gone HIS Time yet in our Time thousands of years have past. Likewise within and/or inside cellular Life Universes a thousand years has gone their way but only a day our time has passed.

      September 28, 2011 at 4:49 pm |
    • John Richardson

      @Richard Why do you assume god is male? Why do you speak only of the sons of god and never the daughters?

      September 28, 2011 at 4:52 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      John Richardson wrote on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 at 4:52 pm. stating, "@Richard Why do you assume god is male? Why do you speak only of the sons of god and never the daughters?"

      I can only confine the genders of GOD and GODDESS for to say GOD is female does leave out the gender GODDESS,,,

      September 28, 2011 at 5:02 pm |
    • John Richardson

      Wow, that's a strange answer, Richard! But what else was I expecting, eh? OK, let's try again. Why do you speak only of god and never of any goddess? Why to you never reference any daughters of god (or the goddess), but only sons?

      September 28, 2011 at 5:07 pm |
    • Bible Clown

      "You and I and Others and all Celestial Based Life were born of the Inner Spaces configurations of the Fractal Cosmos'built by the Sons of GOD!" Isn't that special? Thanks for sharing, Richard, but that's some pretty ripe schizophrenia you've got going there. Better double up on your meds, and hurry.

      September 28, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ John Richardson wrote on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 at 5:07 pm, stating, "Wow, that's a strange answer, Richard! But what else was I expecting, eh? OK, let's try again. Why do you speak only of god and never of any goddess? Why to you never reference any daughters of god (or the goddess), but only sons?"

      Strange andswer? GOD? GODDESS? Why so strange?

      September 28, 2011 at 5:50 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ Bible Clown,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

      Again I ask but a few questions,,,,It is my hope you have some answers,,,,,,,,,,,

      Where were you when the universes were being created and set floating upon the vast Ocean of Nothingness?

      Where were you when the Firmaments of the Celestial Universes were born out of the Seas of Nothingness?

      Where were you when atomic nebulations began to be cloistered to form the Earth who was once known as Gaia?

      Where were you when the stars were set aflame and divided the Celestial Heaven into innumerable Universes?

      Where were you when Life did form and began to be created and ever recreated by the Sons of GOD who gave to HIS Sons the atomic Cosmos to be their playground?

      Tell me Please,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Your answers are awaited for,,,,,,,,,,,,

      September 28, 2011 at 5:57 pm |
    • Duh

      "Where were you when Life did form and began to alteringly be created and ever recreated by the Sons of GOD who gave to HIS Sons the atomic Cosmos to be their playground?
      You and I and Others and all Celestial Based Life were born of the Inner Spaces configurations of the Fractal Cosmos'built by the Sons of GOD!"

      it's all in your imagination dude – you have no proof of this god. You should seek professional help for your delusions.

      September 28, 2011 at 6:09 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ Duh,,,,,,,, et al,,,,,,,,,,,Duh wrote, "it's all in your imagination dude – you have no proof of this god. You should seek professional help for your delusions"

      Then if my "imagination" does offend you, well,,,,,,,,,,,,

      My Faith cannot be shaken even less afforded your shunningness clamorings in psychologically declaring me delusional when my Fiath in Word does impart you to revelations beyond your abilities to truly discern upon let alone rationalize with clarities beckoning. Duh should be your real name,,,, maybe is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,who am I to judge the ilks of you?

      September 28, 2011 at 6:46 pm |
    • Duh

      "My Faith cannot be shaken even less afforded your shunningness clamorings in psychologically declaring me delusional when my Fiath in Word does impart you to revelations beyond your abilities to truly discern upon let alone rationalize with clarities beckoning. Duh should be your real name,,,, maybe is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,who am I to judge the ilks of you?"

      A rambling of words signifying nothing and still nothing proving the existence of your said god. Ramblings like yours are a sign of mental illness.

      September 28, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
    • Answer

      The problem with Richard is that he is in too much sin. You can ask him once again how much sin he has – he'll tell you.

      He is at the point in his life where he really needs god to assure himself that he has a secure place in heaven waiting for him. He begs god for that assurance. He's here on these blogs working for the browny points that he needs to buy his ticket. I love how pitiful Richard is portraying himself, his lot in life and in general.

      I think he's really down since the economy has tanked. He's probably in financial turmoil and the only way out is to turn to god. That's my best presumption. Care to enlighten us Richard on how really pitiful you are?

      September 28, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
    • Answer

      Hey Richard

      You know it's okay to admit failure, even as a man, we're all human. Your religious folks love to harness guilt and love to suffer within (this is the wrong thinking of course). As a human being when you move away from these guilt trip imposed by religion you will realize on your own that you are strong on your own. You can learn to appreciate life. You can be honest to yourself and accept the fact that "IT IS OKAY TO BE HAPPY JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE." This is the truth and you do not need a shell of guilt to surround yourself before you can be happy. That is what is wrong with you fundamentalists.

      You guys deserve to be happy and should just move away from needing guilt first and just accept happiness on your own.

      September 28, 2011 at 7:03 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ Duh and Answer et al,,,,,,,,,,,

      May you find your own ways to know the God that dwells deeply inside each of you. Duh's God is not Answer's God while both of your Gods are not from or of my building's/temple's/body's God.

      1Cr 3:9 “For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building.”

      1Cr 3:16 "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?"

      Luk 17:21 "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is inside/within you."

      I know without any doubt that a Kingdom of God does truly abide in my body,,,,,,,,,,,,,Do either of you so believe?

      September 28, 2011 at 7:19 pm |
    • Duh

      "I know without any doubt that a Kingdom of God does truly abide in my body,,,,,,,,,,,,,Do either of you so believe?"

      You have to believe that delusional crap so you can feel good about yourself, otherwise you would have to face the reality of who you truly are and that scares you. It's only when someone doesn't love themselves they have to believe a deity does, it's pathetic. There is no god living inside of you it's all made up in your corrupt mind.

      September 28, 2011 at 7:25 pm |
    • Answer

      @Richard

      Seriously how much time and effort have you tried so hard to convince yourself? You have to answer that question to yourself someday. I will point this out time and time again when you recite your -literature-. When I see those 'Mark: ' .. you honestly know my eyes just skip them as trash. For real it's an automatic reflex. It is junk.

      September 28, 2011 at 7:31 pm |
  8. hippypoet

    all religious people should not be allowed to both vote and run for office as they can not separate fact from myth and thats bad for the leader of a country... can you imagine going to war over the tooth fairy, or about the easter bunny, ah better yet santa clause..not good at all! they pray before a battle which has no impact on who wins, but if we didn't pray we could get our men out faster and therefore maybe win more as they might still be praying... silly prayers!

    September 28, 2011 at 3:46 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      Jimmy cracks corn and I don't care,
      Jimmy cracked a corn and still I don't care.

      September 28, 2011 at 4:00 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      What a pig-headed, stupid and potentially dangerous point of view hippy.

      "can you imagine going to war over the tooth fairy, or about the easter bunny, ah better yet santa clause"

      Most of us don't dream straw men.

      September 28, 2011 at 4:12 pm |
    • Barry G.

      Your comment betrays your ignorance of American history (particularly pre and Colonial History). Your comment also betrays an ignorance of Scripture and how literature in general functions.

      I have been taught, however, to be tolerant of others, especially those who have not had the same opportunites and abilities as others.

      By the way, having no faith is not a reason to be proud or to boast. It is reason to feel shame.

      If you want to take pride in something, take pride in your humility, kindness, compassion, and your ability to forgive and love others.

      September 28, 2011 at 4:18 pm |
    • hippypoet

      @Uncouth Swain

      you may not dream of straw but i hope for blood and flesh every sunday... i was being less vulgar...but if you wish to go head long into the fra, lets go! you believe 4 dudes on horse back will ride into town and kill everything but good christians, but by me saying that its the same to say war over religion is like war over santa clause is bad.. i think i missed your point.

      September 28, 2011 at 4:19 pm |
    • hippypoet

      @Barry G.

      i should feel shame for being a smart person who sees the truth in the bs that you call faith... i am lost on that one! see i feel that its you who should feel shame for believing in something that you can't prove the existance of, also i if were you would feel very silly.

      September 28, 2011 at 4:22 pm |
    • Brother Maynard

      Barry G. sez:
      If you want to take pride in something, take pride in your humility, kindness, compassion, and your ability to forgive and love others.

      Something atheists do every single day ... No Jesus / God / Allah/ Vishnu required

      September 28, 2011 at 5:13 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "you believe 4 dudes on horse back will ride into town and kill everything but good christians, but by me saying that its the same to say war over religion is like war over santa clause is bad.. i think i missed your point."

      Umm..no, I don't think that at all. But that you for playing the guessing game. Pity you stink at it.

      My comment was directed toward, "all religious people should not be allowed to both vote and run for office". This was a stupid and dangerous comment to make. I will stand by that comment on what you wrote.

      September 28, 2011 at 6:19 pm |
    • Squire L

      I agree with hippypoet. Religious people should not be allowed to vote, possess weapons of any sort, or operate dangerous or heavy machinery.
      You don't support Charles Manson being able to vote, do you Uncouth Swain? You are no different from Manson in terms of mental health. We don't allow crazy people to be in public either, as this is not only dangerous, but disturbing to sane people.
      Abnormal psychology is where it's at. We do not compromise with Manson and give him freedom of religion do we?
      HA HA HA HA! You are sooooo stupid! LOL

      September 28, 2011 at 6:40 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "I agree with hippypoet. Religious people should not be allowed to vote, possess weapons of any sort, or operate dangerous or heavy machinery."

      ~Of course you agree...you are a sheep. But sadly you repeat a dangerous and stupid mentality.

      "You don't support Charles Manson being able to vote, do you Uncouth Swain?"

      ~Of course I don't. I don't support anyone who has co_mmitted a felony such a murder to ever be able to vote again. You do realize that Manson is not allowed to vote for his crimes and not for his thoughts..correct? Duh.

      "You are no different from Manson in terms of mental health. We don't allow crazy people to be in public either, as this is not only dangerous, but disturbing to sane people."

      ~Only fools and psychiatrists claim to know what goes on in the minds of other ppl. Sadly...I doubt you have a degree.

      "We do not compromise with Manson and give him freedom of religion do we?
      HA HA HA HA! You are sooooo stupid! LOL"

      ~What we do not compromise on is when one person's rights takes away from another person's rights. I don't hate to say it..but you are pretty stupid on what is legal in our nation. Again, go and do a little basic research on why Manson is in prison. I bet you won't find him guilty of religion since there is not such thing in the US.

      September 28, 2011 at 8:51 pm |
  9. J.W

    The people who think this are probably Mormon. They think that black people are tarnished. Im suprised Mitt Romney has not brought that up yet.

    September 28, 2011 at 3:41 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      Funny thing,,,,Black absorbs while White reflects,,,,,,,, wondering what this might refer to Biblically speaking,,,,,,,,,,,,,?

      September 28, 2011 at 3:55 pm |
  10. Hypatia

    And the lunatic fringe comes out of the woodwork, like the roaches they are.

    September 28, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
    • u r a nutjob

      'bout time you got here

      September 28, 2011 at 3:26 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      Roaches are so fast and yet slow in directioned,,,,, took too many wrong turns I'd say,,,,,,,,,,,,,made it though

      September 28, 2011 at 3:39 pm |
  11. Richard S Kaiser

    What does this Obama really know? I have heard him talk many times but his speeches are nothing but hot air with no meat on his boneyard of absolutely nothing worthy of biting on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so sad,,,,so sad,,,,,,

    September 28, 2011 at 3:21 pm |
    • u r a nutjob

      He is a politician. Duh!

      September 28, 2011 at 3:23 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ u r a nutjob

      Please tell me, "What exactly is what is it you said,,, Oh,,, What is a politician?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

      September 28, 2011 at 3:26 pm |
    • Huh

      Isn't that what George Bush did and we ended up in a war based on nothing....so sad...so sad....all those soldiers dying for nothing....pathetic!

      September 28, 2011 at 3:27 pm |
    • u r a nutjob

      speeches are nothing but hot air with no meat on his boneyard of absolutely nothing worthy of biting on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so sad,,,,so sad

      September 28, 2011 at 3:29 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ et al,,,, so sorry all but I am a "bit touched",,,,,,, seldom do I eyeingly watch the booby tuby,,,,,,,,,only listen to it as being background noises,,,,,,,,,,,,someday soon, I will be,,,,,,,,,I will be able,,,,,,,,,,,I will be able to,,,,,,,,,,I will be able to show,,,,,,,,,,,,I will be able to show you,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I will be able to show you my,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

      September 28, 2011 at 3:34 pm |
    • *frank*

      Richard, have you ever had an MRI done of your brain?

      September 28, 2011 at 6:04 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ *frank* et al,,,,,,,

      Tell me frank, what would an MRI prove or disprove? Had one done on my one kidney,,,,,,,,and,,,,,, you tell me,,,,,,,,

      September 28, 2011 at 6:51 pm |
  12. u r a nutjob

    Danger Doctor Smith

    September 28, 2011 at 3:21 pm |
  13. ajgorm

    Warning ! The Anti Christ will be disquised as a liberal.

    September 28, 2011 at 3:20 pm |
    • Dan from Tx

      your disguise isn't working

      September 28, 2011 at 3:49 pm |
  14. Richard S Kaiser

    as a god built by the Gods living upon a world inside GOD, I am but a smalled morsal of randomized meatiness to flow into the crematorium's fires,,,,,,,,,,,,seconds' anyone?

    September 28, 2011 at 3:15 pm |
    • John Richardson

      Yuck

      September 28, 2011 at 3:34 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ John Richardson,,,,,,,,,,,Yuck,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?

      Eat any good "poultery-geist" lately? They are said to be out of this world,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 🙂

      September 28, 2011 at 3:44 pm |
    • John Richardson

      Poultry, yes. Poltergeists, no. Your lexicon is more randomized than your "meatiness".

      September 28, 2011 at 4:38 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      🙂 & 😦 = 🙂 & 🙂 + 🙂

      September 28, 2011 at 5:53 pm |
  15. Chuckles

    Well if Obama is the Antichrist then we're right on schedule for Dec. 21 2012 right? Anyways, shouldn't the evangelicals be excited that soon armegeddon will be upon us and monsters are going to eat us and god is going to battle and all that jazz right? I think a lot of evangelicals already think it'll be the end of the world if they vote for a dem, this is just another brick in that path.

    September 28, 2011 at 3:12 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ et al,,,,,,,,,,,

      Obama,,,,,,on Time? Dec. 21 2012,,,,,,,? Is Obama a Mayan Christian,,,,,,,,,,,? Does He or doesn't he,,,,,,,,?

      September 28, 2011 at 3:50 pm |
    • John Richardson

      Party at my place on December 22, 2012! Come celebrate the refutation of yet another load of BS promulgated by the end times crowd, albeit this time the pagan/new age/mckennaite/pseudo-mayan fringe of the end times loonies!

      September 28, 2011 at 4:41 pm |
    • Answer

      Those evangelists will move that date farther up the road when it becomes apparent that they were once again wrong.

      September 28, 2011 at 6:44 pm |
  16. hippypoet

    @jim 🙂

    oh no, watch out kids, jim has a pope up his @ss... thats why he is all grumby! plus with that old german stuck up there he can't even crack a smile.. well not the normal kind, he can still do the inverted smile, but you have to see it from the back!

    i think he likes it! he feels as if "god" is in him.

    hugs and kisses 🙂

    September 28, 2011 at 3:03 pm |
  17. HiIAmNewHere Hello

    Pontious Pilate always thought Jesus and Obama were tools.

    September 28, 2011 at 2:59 pm |
  18. HiIAmNewHere Hello

    I'll take Come into Christ for 200, Trebek.

    September 28, 2011 at 2:58 pm |
  19. Byrd

    Obama isn't the Anti-Christ, but if the slug does exist, then CNN is its mouthpiece....

    September 28, 2011 at 2:56 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      More like if the "slug" exists CNN would be the slot,,,,,,,,,,,,,, No?

      September 28, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
  20. show me the money

    hi, i'm the pope, i care about one thing, me, and why are you here?

    September 28, 2011 at 2:55 pm |
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