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A movement to paint Obama as the Antichrist?
President Obama reacts as he's heckled at a Los Angeles fundraiser Monday night.
September 27th, 2011
04:54 PM ET

A movement to paint Obama as the Antichrist?

By Dan Gilgoff and Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editors

(CNN) - On our sister blog The 1600 Report, CNN's Alex Mooney notes a discrepancy in the official White House transcript of a California fundraiser Monday night, during which a person who heckled President Barack Obama was escorted out by security.

Here's the White House transcript's account of the heckler:

AUDIENCE MEMBER: The Christian God is the only true living God, the Creator of the heavens and the universe.

But Mooney observes that the White House pool report records the heckler as being much more blunt, yelling "'Barack Obama is the Antichrist!"

The president interrupted his remarks at the fundraiser, held at Los Angeles' House of Blues, to respond to the heckler.

"First of all, I agree Jesus Christ is the Lord," Obama said. "I believe in that. I do have a question, though. I think the young man may have left his jacket... "

Ironically, the remark about Obama as the Antichrist came the same day that The New York Times ran an op-ed arguing that the Antichrist is assuming a bigger place in the public discourse, as evangelical Christian ideas about the end times gain traction.

In a piece titled "Why the Antichrist Matters in Politics," Washington State University history professor Matthew Avery Sutton argues that, for some Christians, Obama fits into ideas about the Antichrist, whose arrival is believed to be a portent of the end times and Jesus' second coming:

For some evangelicals, President Obama is troubling. The specious theories about his place of birth, his internationalist tendencies, his measured support for Israel and his Nobel Peace Prize fit their long-held expectations about the Antichrist. So does his commitment to expanding the reach of government in areas like health care.

The op-ed was the most e-mailed piece on nytimes.com for much of Tuesday.

In the 2008 campaign, Republican presidential nominee John McCain released an anti-Obama ad called "The One" that ridiculed Obama for what it said was his messiah complex. Some critics claimed the spot was a veiled attempt to paint Obama as the Antichrist, though the McCain camp denied it.

What do you think? Is there a gathering movement to paint the president as the Antichrist? Are such charges overblown attempt to discredit Obama's critics?

Read Mooney's full report here.
- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Barack Obama • Belief • Christianity • Politics

soundoff (2,491 Responses)
  1. Muneef

     (The Prophets)
    01) [The time of] their account has approached for the people, while they are in heedlessness turning away.

    02) No mention comes to them anew from their Lord except that they listen to it while they are at play.

    http://quran.com/21

    16) And We did not create the heaven and earth and that between them in play.

    17) Had We intended to take a diversion, We could have taken it from [what is] with Us – if [indeed] We were to do so.

    18) Rather, We dash the truth upon falsehood, and it destroys it, and thereupon it departs. And for you is destruction from that which you describe.

    http://quran.com/21

    35) Every soul will taste death. And We test you with evil and with good as trial; and to Us you will be returned.

    http://quran.com/21

    48) And We had already given Moses and Aaron the criterion and a light and a reminder for the righteous.

    49) Who fear their Lord unseen, while they are of the Hour apprehensive.

    50) And this [Qur'an] is a blessed message which We have sent down. Then are you with it unacquainted?

    http://quran.com/21

    September 30, 2011 at 8:50 pm |
  2. fred

    Seriously
    The question was what wisdom did Solomon gain and express?

    September 30, 2011 at 3:47 pm |
    • Seriously

      Wow are you really this dense, explains why you believe a book of fairy tales, There is no wisdom because god doesn't exist – duh. You're trying to make something out of a false tale. Take god out of the text and what do you have? A typical story line. So what was the wisdom Macbeth gained and expressed? Get the picture? DUH....it's a work of fiction.

      September 30, 2011 at 3:55 pm |
    • fred

      You would compare Solomon and his writtings with Macbeth. You reject the wisdom and knowledge that can be gained from great writers of antiquity simply because they believe God. Yet, you hold the Greeks up high and support their lifestyle. These are the 3 tendencies that define your character.
      I for one constantly seek improvement and where my character does not line up with Chirst seek to make adjustments. I cannot see ignoring the major influence of who we are in a western society as contributing to growth. There was some positive that came from Christ whether you believe in God or not

      September 30, 2011 at 6:06 pm |
    • Real Deal

      fred, There was a lot of wisdom in Aesop's Fables too (500-600 BC Greece) - no need to think that foxes really talked, or that hares really had races with tortoises.

      September 30, 2011 at 6:18 pm |
    • Seriously

      "There was some positive that came from Christ whether you believe in God or not"

      There's a lot you can learn from Gandhi, Buddha, Eisenstein, Helen Keller, and yes even Shakespeare writing. DUH, you don't need a god to do that but the things in the bible aren't true, that's the point, neither was Macbeth. 😉

      September 30, 2011 at 6:33 pm |
    • fred

      Real Deal
      Seriously
      Perhaps man is not as smart as we would like to believe relative to God. Just how could God express to man who He is and what the plan is so that we could understand it. Prior to say 1500 years ago we did not have the mental reference point to understand a being or force outside of our space and time constraints. So for the first several thousand years we have the Joe and the volcano type of god comprehension. About 1400 BC we have acquired greater language and mental skills so deeper attributes of God are now revealed (old testament revelation of a Holy God, Logos, all knowing etc). By the time of Jesus we now can get the deeper thoughts of how one communicates with God and presents Himself before God. Bottom line we need to seek the state of mind, body and soul that Jesus demonstrated and spoke clearly on. At that point something happens the Holy Spirit is given to the believer and takes him/her into that state.
      The issue is that neither of you have experienced that state personally so you deny it understandably. Those who have personally experienced it are never again the same and have a relationship with an ent-ity that is very real. That happened to me ( was once atheist or agnostic depending on definition) personally and I witnessed it personally happen to others. I understand how millions to date have experienced this. It happens exactly as Jesus expressed in the Bible. This is acceptable proof by observation and repeated consistent outcomes that; when one does as Jesus says the Holy Spirit enters their life and they are changed. That's the Real Deal, Seriously !

      September 30, 2011 at 7:13 pm |
    • Seriously

      “Prior to say 1500 years ago we did not have the mental reference point to understand a being or force outside of our space and time constraints”

      Yet the bible was written 200 years ago what does that tell you. LOL!

      “The issue is that neither of you have experienced that state personally so you deny it understandably. Those who have personally experienced it are never again the same and have a relationship with an ent-ity that is very real.”

      No, it’s all in your head that’s the point you are reading into everything around as being a god even though it’s not. That’s the point! You are making this up as you go along. The point is if you actually stop saying it’s a god and realized it is actually you, talking to yourself, giving you the power to be who you are, you would accomplish much more in this life and take responsibility for it – instead of pawing it off to a fancy god or a devil. THAT’s the point. Seriously! Let’s see if you were to know during my baptism the statue of virgin mary cried – you probably would think I am a saint based on your poor logic. LMAO! Uh…yeah…that really did happen. Oh...it's a god that did that..I am blessed...I am blessed....no it just happen to be a hot humid day, nothing more.

      September 30, 2011 at 7:21 pm |
    • Seriously

      Crap that was suppose to be "2000' years ago not 200.

      September 30, 2011 at 7:22 pm |
    • Muneef

      Fred.
      Might you find here what you want to know;

      http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Articles/Prophet/sulaiman.htm

      September 30, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
    • fred

      Seriously
      What's the big deal if I thank Jesus for just about everything all day long. It keeps me thinking it's all good and everything will work out just as planned...................and it is a good plan too! Yieks you are Seriously included in that plan whether you like it or not. Don't go making another mother cry.

      September 30, 2011 at 8:07 pm |
    • fred

      Muneef
      Thanks!

      September 30, 2011 at 8:15 pm |
    • Real Deal

      fred,

      I was a believer for close to 50 years, many of them quite devoutly. I remember that special, ecstatic, tingly feeling, thinking that I was 'communicating' with the divine. It is a physical response to emotions. There is no "Holy Spirit" there. There is no-one there.

      Perhaps I should be softer and let you remain in your dream world, but there are way too many real problems on planet Earth without adding the strife of competing, warring, self-righteous fantasies to them.

      October 1, 2011 at 1:12 am |
    • fred

      Real Deal
      I would never have become a believer if not for the Saul like experience I had. If not for the strange set of circu-mstances that came into my life. Often I need to go back to those experiences because sometimes as you say it seems no one is there. I have a lot of typical Christian excuses when it seems no one is there. Those excuses do not measure up in the face of personal agonizing experiences of death and loss of loved ones. Yet, I still utter those excuses when someone else is going through great personal loss or pain. With this web site and now 2 atheists that I ride with I find myself going back over the past "God" moments more and more to keep the faith. On a positive note I am confident something is at work here. On a negative note I miss that blind faith which brings the confidence of a child along with its simplicity.
      It is different when you're explaining Jonah in terms of a big fish verses fish, metaphor or allegory. When that fails you have the story of Jonah cast overboard rejected into the dark stormy sea when going the opposite direction God wanted him to go. God provides a “fish” to swallow Jonah keeping him safe (ark like safe in the palm of His hand). Jonah issues up a real heartfelt prayer, God hears and Jonah is back on land. Jonah gives the message of repentance to Nineveh who listen repent and are saved. Now the good part. God grows a vine to keep Jonah cool and he is happy till God sends a worm to eat the vine so the sun blazed on Jonah’s head. Jonah is angry about the vine.
      Amazing how our focus is on explaining the fish yet the real story is about Gods love for his people and redemption. Most important we miss the prayer in Chapter 2. It is a prayer God always hears, that of a broken and contrite heart.
      I am not at all amazed that on this web site we mock the believers of the fish story. Jesus said remove the scales from your eyes. I don’t think it was a pun, we are so blinded by something like a fish we can’t see the real story.

      October 1, 2011 at 3:33 pm |
    • Seriously

      "Jesus said remove the scales from your eyes. I don’t think it was a pun, we are so blinded by something like a fish we can’t see the real story."

      It's because the bible is riddled with contradictory issues like the fish, that is the point. There are many stories throughout human history about gods because when you don't understand something it must be a god. It's the same thing that goes on in your daily life – hey it's coincidence – it must be a god even though that coincidence didn't need divinity to happen – it still would have happened. The point is that when someone keeps praying to their gods, believing their life will go as they want it with the help of a god but then nothing happens, they keep sitting there praying. Nothing happens in your life without action behind it to move it along. It's like the couple that keep praying their child would be healed by their prayers to their god, but the child dies, no action to take it to the doctor is why it died since there is no god. Even though I don't believe in your god my life is filled with wonderful coincidences that make it fun the difference is I don't apply your type of divinity to it.

      October 3, 2011 at 8:40 am |
  3. Tony

    For one thing...he doesn't fit the profile in the Bible. Satan is much more sutle and would never use a guy with an above the law ego. Obama is a loser and we need to watch out for a major environmental or financial catastrophy where one man rises with the answer and people worship him for it. Of course, Obama and the fools that voted him in will follow this guy to the end!

    September 30, 2011 at 9:54 am |
  4. Obama Antichrist

    Obama is definitely 'anti-' [AGAINST or ABOVE] the Messiah. His actions place him against the scriptural teachings and actions of the Messiah and his arrogance and lack of religion place him ABOVE the creator in matters of personal life decisions.

    September 30, 2011 at 8:37 am |
    • Derrick

      Obama is a Christian; he does not "lack religion." And, which of his views, exactly, make him "anti" Jesus? His support for the poor, his demanding responsibility of the rich, or his support for equal access to quality healthcare? Have you ever read the New Testament? These policies are much more compatible for Jesus' teaching than anything the republicans stand for. I'm 95% sure that if Jesus were alive today, conservatives would paint him as the anti-Christ. A conservative suggesting that Obama is un-Christ-like is the height of irony.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:01 am |
    • 21'stCenturyFaith

      so true derrick sooo true

      September 30, 2011 at 12:46 pm |
  5. Muneef

    What ever President Obama is being a saint or not a saint,all am asking is, as he got us in the middle of this "Change" issue, he now has to get us out of it before the fire catches all....!!

    September 30, 2011 at 8:07 am |
  6. elle

    I believe THIS IS A STAGED EVENT to bring up anger towards christians!

    September 30, 2011 at 6:43 am |
  7. Obama is a Saint

    The Antichrist has come... And thou shalt know his name... George W. Bush. He will be back! If you think Bush is history, there are still many many ways in which he and his father, Beelzebush, can mess with the planet and send us all to hell in a handbasket! Bush is the personification of evil.

    September 30, 2011 at 4:19 am |
  8. TeaTiBag

    It's the Pallinloid Movement. I KNEW IT!!

    September 30, 2011 at 12:40 am |
  9. MaaMoo

    WOW, if you put as much thought into REAL issues this country would be muchc better off.

    September 29, 2011 at 11:12 pm |
  10. leecherius

    BS

    September 29, 2011 at 9:57 pm |
  11. JFritz

    Ya saw this coming in 2008, didn't ya? Ever watch the crazy shows on religious tv? They've been hinting at this now for the past three years. Good lord, will everyone PLEASE acquaint yourselves with the loony-toon doctrines spun out of the Dallas Theological Seminary which have taken over "Christian" churches? Watching religious television should be required for everyone–maybe THEN the threat these holy people pose to what might have been a free nation will be more apparant.
    The world is moving fast, and fundamentalist leaders in every nation use our fears about the future to seize power and money.

    September 29, 2011 at 9:04 pm |
  12. Bob

    Whether you believe Christ lived or not, the principles espoused and adhered to by millions still exemplifies the patience and decency each of us, regardless of race, religion, or political affiliation, should have and demonstrate one towards another. Principles of decency do not have to be associated to the name of Christ to be practiced by all. In all seriousness, the definition of Anti-Christ is readily evident and visible in the words of hatred spewed in these comments. I am honestly shocked and disappointed at the vile nature in which the majority have responded one to another. I think being an Anti-Christ may be better defined as ones demonstrated behavior and actions towards his fellow man. I fully expect to experience the naked hatred in rebuttals to my comment. My only hope is that we would each take a moment to manage our feelings of "fight" and respond in a way that we would want others to respond to us.

    September 29, 2011 at 8:29 pm |
  13. Garlyn Norris

    If Obama was the antichrist he would have much better poll numbers

    September 29, 2011 at 6:37 pm |
  14. Casey

    There was a time when I considered this possibility about Obama... mainly because of his amazing charisma (as exhibited several years ago...) but now... no... not really. I would think the Anti-Christ would be a lot more effective and persuasive. (BTW... I think every president has had this thought of them at one time or another... )

    Keep the Faith.

    September 29, 2011 at 5:52 pm |
    • Redneck Genius

      yeah, most rational people are concerned that presidents are the anti-christ... wow. please freeze me and wake me up when the human race is no longer 99% retarded.

      September 30, 2011 at 1:49 am |
  15. Reality

    What BO should have said:

    The Book of Revelation is best described by the following:

    "Nineteenth-century agnostic Robert G. Ingersoll branded Revelation "the insanest of all books".[30] Thomas Jefferson omitted it along with most of the Biblical canon, from the Jefferson Bible, and wrote that at one time, he "considered it as merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams." [31]

    Martin Luther "found it an offensive piece of work" and John Calvin "had grave doubts about its value."[32]

    September 29, 2011 at 4:06 pm |
    • .........

      plz hit report abuse on all reality posts

      September 29, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
    • eaglemt

      Who cares what these men think? Revelation is revealing what Jesus says is going to come to pass. Just like His parables, the meaning is veiled to all except believers who have the Holy Spirit to interpret it's meaning. I understand it perfectly. And it will all come to pass...soon. The book of Daniel and Ezekiel have some of the same prophetic visions that are in Revelation.

      September 29, 2011 at 8:16 pm |
  16. eaglemt

    True born-again Christians that want to serve God, like Obama, will always be falsely accused and lied about. The Antichrist when he comes, will be indwelt by Satan himself, and demand that he be worshipped as God, and will behead anyone who doesn't do so. This doesn't apply to Obama, and anyone who says Obama is the Antichrist is a lying moron.

    September 29, 2011 at 3:44 pm |
    • NOTnuts

      Good Grief! Are you completely INSANE?

      September 29, 2011 at 5:47 pm |
  17. Mark

    I think this is part of the White push to color anyone who disagrees with it as fringe. Note recent Obama (and other progressive commentators) fixation on spinning crowd reaction at Republical debates as somehow indicative of the position of the debators. In reality, Biden calling Republincans terroist is much more alarming and give one pause to consider who is really over the line. In of course there is the violent rhetoric of Obama's unionn supportors.

    September 29, 2011 at 3:21 pm |
    • Chuckles

      I'm sorry, are you angry that when the commentator stated the fact that Perry has executed more people in Texas than any other governor in history and the crowds disgusting cheers to such a statistic doesn't indicate that Perry is clearly in favor of the death penalty. Not to mention, the crowd cheers at soundbites of the debaters themselves, not the other way around kiddo, but you can go on believing that this is somehow the white house and Obama's fault for making the republican primaries little more than cartoons.

      September 29, 2011 at 3:24 pm |
  18. Michael

    Since there is no such thing as the Antichrist, of course it is over blown.

    September 29, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
    • eaglemt

      In the future, when you are required to have a mark on your hand or forehead to buy or sell anything, and required to worship a future world leader as God, or be put to death, you have encountered the Antichrist. He will seem to be great and wonderful at first, but will turn into a very controlling, murderous, destructive, dictator that will make Hitler look like nothing. He will be head of the one-world government that is already being planned to be set up. Of course when Jesus comes back, he will be thrown into the Lake of Fire, so that will be that. But before that, the Antichrist will succeed in killing most of the world's population, because he will be indwelt by Satan, who hates people and will destroy them through deceit and intrigue. Just be prepared, even though you may not believe this, it is going to happen. But Jesus is there to save you, if you come to Him now.

      September 29, 2011 at 8:33 pm |
  19. zip

    New rule. Jesus freaks can't vote.

    September 29, 2011 at 12:40 pm |
    • NOTnuts

      Better yet, DEPORT all Repugnicans!

      September 29, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
  20. abeyasha

    In Spiritual sense the word "Car" represents Spirit. If Obama's car is called "Beast" & one this understanding it goes on without saying "in him is the beast". David the so called heckler may have a truth in his pointing.

    September 29, 2011 at 12:10 pm |
    • Ann

      Wow! You are really stretching on that one! I think you are crazy!

      September 29, 2011 at 6:44 pm |
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