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Bachmann urges Christians not to 'settle'
Michelle Bachman addressed students at Liberty University on Wednesday.
September 28th, 2011
08:20 PM ET

Bachmann urges Christians not to 'settle'

By Ashley Killough, CNN

(CNN) – Minessota Rep. Michele Bachmann gave one piece of advice to students at the country's largest Christian university: "Don't settle."

It's a line she's recently pushed to Republican voters, urging the GOP not to "settle" on leading GOP presidential candidates.

But on Wednesday she turned the phrase into one laced with heavy spiritual themes.

"Don't settle for anything less than what this great and almighty God has planned for you," Bachmann said in a speech at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia.

The White House hopeful described her experience becoming a Christian as a 16-year-old, when she said she walked into a church one day with some friends and felt called to the altar.

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  1. Blessed Geek

    Out of political expediency she withdrew from association with a church that hints that the Pope is the antichrist.

    I have Christian acquaintances who no longer dare to calll themselves "christians" out of embarrassment being associated with right-wing Christianity. Did we not even recently read of devout born-again Christians who no longer want to be called Christians, out of embarrassment or dissociated feelings for right-wing Christianity?

    So, when she addresses Christians, is she addressing Christians who proudly call themselves Christians but who have lost their spiritual path and replaced the gospel with Capitalism, or is she also addressing Christians who wish to dissociate themselves with "Christians".

    September 30, 2011 at 9:05 pm |
    • AGuest9

      The pope isn't? He's a Nazi...

      September 30, 2011 at 9:13 pm |
  2. dina

    If she is called to the altar then be a minister and not a politician. Religion and poltics should not be together. She obviously believes her dogma ,so go out and preach that, but don't do it on my dollar as a politician as I don't believe her crap.

    September 30, 2011 at 3:40 pm |
  3. poiuytre

    Someone should pull a Gabrielle Giffords on Bachmann's ass and air condition her face with a nice big hole

    September 30, 2011 at 1:56 pm |
    • Hoovervilles

      @poiuytre

      Stop emulating the Sharon Angle "second amendment solution" talk. There is too much of that already out there.

      October 3, 2011 at 10:02 pm |
  4. Gherrriey

    Why, oh why, does she keep trying to speak for God? The sheer arrogance!

    September 30, 2011 at 12:19 pm |
    • David

      Yeah, speaking about or for something that doesn't exist (god). That would be Bachmann again -saying anything but the truth.

      September 30, 2011 at 1:43 pm |
  5. Q

    Truly a scary candidate on the level of "I'm not a witch"...

    September 30, 2011 at 1:53 am |
    • David

      Yeah, isn't it terrifying? She actually practices her religion. Scary, huh?

      September 30, 2011 at 4:11 am |
    • midwstrngrl

      She also thinks all the rest of us should practice her religion too. She has actually said she thinks members of congress should only be evangelicals...its god's plan...scary.

      September 30, 2011 at 10:27 am |
    • Arathorn

      "practicing her religion" -next we'll be seeing video of her sacrificing and burning an animal on an altar. After all, the bible commands her to do it.

      September 30, 2011 at 1:45 pm |
    • Hoovervilles

      @David

      Yes it is scary. Don't think so?
      On 9/11 Islamic terrorists were "practicing their religion.
      Muslims who marry and impregnate young teenagers are "practicing their religion".
      FLDS members who marry and impregnate young teenagers are "practicing their religion".
      In Salem women were burned at the stake for being witches by Christians who were "practicing their religion".

      And that is a small list.

      October 3, 2011 at 10:09 pm |
  6. Reality

    Happy 21st century, the time for rational thinking!!!------->

    The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians during the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen

    September 30, 2011 at 12:25 am |
    • David

      That's real cute, Reality. Make sure and show that to your psychiatrist next time, okay?

      September 30, 2011 at 4:12 am |
    • Lisa

      Too funny! And too true, lol.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:16 am |
    • Beth

      Another great Reality post.
      Keep commenting on Reality posts so the spammer that wants them taken down can't win. Report abuse instead on the ....... guy who doesn't have the ....... to give his name.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:19 pm |
    • Marilyn Joan Papst

      Do you believe you have a soul? There is no physical organ in the human body that can be identified as the soul. Yet most people believe they have one and consider that belief to be rational. even though they say it is irrational to believe in something that can not be proven to exist.. God is above reason. Consider the universal concepts of love, truth and power that can be nourished in a human soul. I am sure you have heard of a person having lost their soul, sold their soul, or being a poor soul. It's a choice.

      September 30, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
    • Reality

      We do care as noted in the following:

      Saving Christians from the Infamous Resurrection Con/Disease: (requires only two minutes of your time- Priceless!!)

      From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."

      Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.

      To wit;

      From a major Catholic university's theology professor’s grad school white-board notes:

      "Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
      Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.

      Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.

      Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.

      The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.

      Only Luke's Gospel records it. The Assumption ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "

      "In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."
      http://eternal-word.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN.HTM

      With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:

      An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,

      p.4

      "Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."

      p.168. by Ted Peters:

      Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "

      So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, covered with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.

      September 30, 2011 at 5:13 pm |
    • evolvedDNA

      David.. when you see yours, make sure you mention the invisible friend who looks after you as well..

      September 30, 2011 at 6:55 pm |
    • .........

      spam alert hit report abuse on all reality posts

      October 1, 2011 at 9:23 am |
    • Hoovervilles

      @David

      Yup, when you can't dispute the argument, denigrate person who posted.

      David must have been edumacayted at the Rush Limbaugh s-k-r-e-w-a-l*1 of logic and reason.

      *1 The word is s-k-r-e-w-a-l is Rush's very own {NOT MINE) as aired on the Excellence in Buffoonery network.

      October 3, 2011 at 10:26 pm |
    • Hoovervilles

      @David

      David said in response to Reality,

      "That's real cute, Reality. Make sure and show that to your psychiatrist next time, okay?"

      Oh, such a devastating response to Reality, such impeccable logic, such devastating reasoning. Where does one such a high level education?

      Reality must be really devastated in the face of such logic. NOT!

      David, try responding with a well reasoned argument instead of a put down, if you can.

      October 3, 2011 at 11:19 pm |
  7. Tea Party Daily Mirror

    A spokesperson today said candidate Michele Bachmann, having recently left her church behind, is converting to Islam.

    Bachmann is also leaving her latent-gay, flaccid husband Marcuthhh so that she can be free to pursue musician Yousef Islam (Cat Stevens). Bachmann is guoted as saying "I've always liked his music. You know what they say about musical men and their trombones..." and "As a Muslim and POuTUS, I could solve our terrorism problems once and for all. There's no way Al Kaida and his countrymen will attack a country with a Muslim leader. This will help me get elected in other ways too. In fact, it might be the only way I can get more than the teabagger vote and pull in anything from Obama's liberal base."

    Yousef Islam (Stevens) was heard to say "No way, dude, no friggin wayyyyy. That leathery old haggis wouldn't have made it as my groupie even when she was 20, no matter how good her oratory skills are."

    September 29, 2011 at 10:34 pm |
    • David

      Don't quit your day job. You're not going to have your by-line in the Onion anytime soon.

      September 30, 2011 at 4:14 am |
    • Paulette

      David, get a sense of humor. And go suck an onion.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:17 pm |
  8. Beth

    BoldGeorge is a wimp.

    September 29, 2011 at 10:32 pm |
    • BoldGeorge

      And why is that? Because I have my own belief? I think it actually takes courage nowadays to state that you're a christian. We are not that far from becoming another one of those nations that persecute christians. And trust me, those times are at hand.

      September 30, 2011 at 12:18 am |
    • Arathorn

      Why should we trust you, George? Doesn't your (non-existent) god have the balls to speak for itself? You're worshipping a big lie. It's people like you that are making America into a backward country.

      September 30, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
    • Beth

      George, no, it's because you are pretending to be a grown-up, but you cling to a childish sky-fairy tale.

      Smart people have seen right through your delusions. You prefer to hide behind them and preserve your ignorance.

      September 30, 2011 at 1:50 pm |
    • Al

      Arathorn
      Ask yourself, why would God need balls?

      September 30, 2011 at 5:04 pm |
    • Terry

      Yeah, it's hard to need anything when you don't exist.

      September 30, 2011 at 9:10 pm |
  9. Tom

    DEFEND SCIENCE. DEFEAT BACHMANN.

    September 29, 2011 at 9:17 pm |
    • Dr.K.

      Defend science. Defeat the GOP.

      (with the possible exception of Huntsman, who perhaps should still be defeated for other reasons!)

      September 29, 2011 at 10:41 pm |
    • AGuest9

      Too late. They shut down the Tevatron. 😦

      Now, I guess they'll try next week to remove the Big Bang and Evolution from the nation's classrooms.

      September 30, 2011 at 9:14 pm |
  10. Tom

    Places like Liberty "university" should be outlawed, its founders arrested, and its students sent to de-christianization camps.

    September 29, 2011 at 9:16 pm |
    • David

      They tried stuff like that in the Soviet Union. Still do it in places like Cuba and North Korea. Go live there. You'd enjoy it.

      September 30, 2011 at 4:16 am |
    • AGuest9

      Wonder if they have a large asbestos-coated gymnasium, where they still conduct cross burnings, in secret?

      September 30, 2011 at 11:56 am |
    • Beth

      Tom, I'm fine with the "outlawed" part. There's no way such a place should get university accreditation.

      I'm sure you're just showing the same frustration that other smart people feel about stupid Christians, but the "de-Christianization" thing I can't support. Maybe Atheists just need to step up their marketing.

      September 30, 2011 at 1:53 pm |
  11. JFritz

    What a sad thing that these "universities" have no idea what a university really is–a place of open-minded inquiry where students get to make up their own minds. Fundamentalists in every country share one trait, fear.

    September 29, 2011 at 8:45 pm |
  12. fernace

    Liberty University, funny name for a decidedly un-liberated Republican school! Lynchburg sounds about right, though!

    September 29, 2011 at 8:34 pm |
    • Beth

      great point.

      September 30, 2011 at 1:53 pm |
  13. Doug in SF

    II'm still trying to figure out the separation of church and state.

    September 29, 2011 at 7:43 pm |
    • Dr.K.

      Good luck figuring it out based on comments by Bachmann and Perry, or there supporters.

      September 29, 2011 at 10:43 pm |
  14. sdgman

    She's a dizzy moron and a freak... but that isn't a bad message.

    September 29, 2011 at 5:54 pm |
  15. snow

    Uh such charisma .. such open mindedness.. This is exactly the kind of leader what the world needs.. not be annihilated to oblivion

    September 29, 2011 at 4:32 pm |
    • snow

      typo .. "to be annihilated to oblivion"

      September 29, 2011 at 4:33 pm |
  16. Packing Fudge

    She sure has a big mouth!

    September 29, 2011 at 4:21 pm |
  17. Joe Fattal

    I know for a fact that God is been trying to tell Bachmann to shut up and stick to politics.

    September 29, 2011 at 4:11 pm |
    • JFritz

      Nah, just telling her to shut up.

      September 29, 2011 at 8:42 pm |
  18. Darth Vadik, CA

    Right wingers are so paradoxical....

    – They want to be free, yet want God's laws, of the cruelest and most conservative NOT FREE THINKING "laws" on this planet...

    – They say Clean Air Act, yet it all the act does is deregulate pollution so we have more of it...

    – No Child Left Behind, yet if your students don't make it, all the students are left behind...

    – Liberty University, yet the most important lesson you learn there is OBEYING...

    etc etc etc etc

    September 29, 2011 at 4:07 pm |
  19. Central Srutinizer

    I have a difficult time understanding what kind of blind ambition pushes a person to stand in front of the world and humiliate herself with her ignorance day after day.

    September 29, 2011 at 3:18 pm |
    • David

      I've been wondering the same thing about Obama since the say he took office.

      September 30, 2011 at 4:21 am |
  20. Paul

    I think her vaccinations have rendered her retarded.

    September 29, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
    • Free

      Walk up to the parent of an autistic kid and tell that to their face, you idiot!

      September 29, 2011 at 6:25 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Autism does not equal retardation, and autism isn't caused by vaccines. Two strikes, Free. Wanna try for a third?

      September 29, 2011 at 10:38 pm |
    • Free

      Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son
      A common theory, however much debunked, is that the MMR vaccine causes autism. So what do you suppose Paul was alluding to then?

      September 29, 2011 at 11:49 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Who knows? Who cares?

      September 30, 2011 at 10:21 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You're the one "alluding to" autism and vaccines, Free. Paul never mentioned autism-you did and appear to have confused it with mental retardation. Paul's comment was likely in reference to MB's contention that Gardasil has caused permanent damage to girls.

      September 30, 2011 at 10:24 am |
    • AGuest9

      Wonder if Free uses a cell phone? You've no doubt heard the rumors and myths about brain tumors, too.

      September 30, 2011 at 11:59 am |
    • Free

      Tom
      Hmm... I hadn't heard of that story about Gardasil before. Thanks for informing me. Guess I'm just a little sensitive about autism. A boy in my family has it, and I certainly am aware of how insensitive people can be about it.

      September 30, 2011 at 5:02 pm |
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