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September 30th, 2011
05:33 PM ET

Worshippers at al-Awlaki's old mosque 'not glad' he's dead, but 'it's helpful'

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Falls Church, Virginia (CNN)– Worshippers hurried by a host of cameras and reporters on their way to Friday prayers at the Dar Al Hijrah Islamic Center. Many of those who stopped to ask about the gaggle of media found out for the first time American Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, who once stood in their pulpit, had been killed Friday by a CIA drone strike in Yemen.

“I think he should have gotten a proper burial as a Muslim, but as a human being I don’t think he was right for his mentality and his morality,” said Jouwad Syed, who recently started attending the Dar Al Hijrah Islamic Center.

“In a way, we’re not glad that he’s dead. At the same token, it’s helpful. We’re trying to clear our name. There’s crazy people everywhere you go in different religions. He’s just one of the few and he definitely doesn’t represent what Islam is all about,” Syed said.

Al-Awlaki was the imam at Al-Hijarh from January 2001 until 2002, when he left the United States for London before eventually resettling in Yemen. While he was in the States he preached to and interacted with three of the September 11, 2001, hijackers, according to the 9/11 Commission report, but he publicly condemned the attack afterward.

“While employed at Dar Al-Hijrah, he was known for his interfaith outreach, civic engagement, and tolerance in the Northern Virginia community,” Imam Johari Abdul-Malik, the current leader of the mosque said in a written statement. “However, after Mr. Al-Awlaki’s departure in 2002, he was arrested by Yemeni authorities and allegedly tortured. It was then that Al-Awlaki began preaching violence.”

His ability to speak English and communicate the positions of al-Queda drew al-Awlaki the nickname “the bin Laden of the Internet.”

“Al-Awlaki will no longer spread his hate speech over the Internet to Muslim youth provoking them to engage in violence against Americans. We reiterate that as an American faith community we do not accept violence nor extremism and recommit ourselves to our message living our faith in peace, tolerance, and the promotion of the public good,” Abdul-Malik continued.

Read more about al-Awlaki on CNN's Security Clearance blog

“Some one that’s not in line with Islam; you gotta break away from them,” said Monsoor Rashid, who works for the Army National Guard as a civilian contractor and was on his way into the mosque for noonday prayers.

“Actions of some folks who go to this mosque don’t represent what the mosque is all about. I live in the area, born and raised in America. We don’t obviously feel the same way he did or any of the other terrorists,” Rashid said.

While the mosque has condemned the actions and statements of al-Awlaki, who helped recruit a Nigerian man who tried to blow up a plane in Detroit in 2009 using an underwear bomb, they also expressed their displeasure with manner of his killing.

“We must also add that in previous statements we have rejected the use of extrajudicial assassination of any human being and especially an American citizen which includes Al-Awlaki. We reiterate our commitment to 'due process under law' and justice and are concerned that the alleged drone attack sends the wrong message to law abiding people around the world,” Abdul-Malik’s statement read.

“I would have preferred that he had suffered life in prison. If he’s dead, he’s dead. He didn’t really get to suffer,” Syed said.

Arsalan Iftikhar, the managing editor of the Crescent Post and author of Islamic Pacifism said, “There might be people who might not have fully agreed with the methodology used but I think there are very few people in the Muslim community who are going to lose any sleep at all over the death of Anwar al-Awlaki. If anything he was a stain on the community, both here domestically and globally.”

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: 9/11 • Belief • Islam

soundoff (610 Responses)
  1. NoJihadToday

    There have now been 36 homegrown US Muslim planned attacks against other Americans that have been stopped since 9/11. Mosques are suspect and especially this Mosque should be as he was an Imam there. He has already spread his Jihad poison there and this mosque needs to be monitored.

    October 2, 2011 at 7:58 pm |
  2. WAHOOPPYPDINDLDOOBERG

    WHITES AREN’T WELCOME IN AMERICA ANY LONGER !!! WE DON’T NEED YOU ANYMORE !!! OUT OF AMERICA WITH WHITES !!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xGfYOAydjw OR http://www.youtube.com/user/BostjanAvsec <== OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE(recorded in 2009 and is pointing out undisputed acts of genocide against whites)

    Make sure to play one from beginning as youtube is censoring proofs of genocide against whites by either playing video in the middle or blocking one entirely from play

    Just in case or if not functioning, please use either http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xleq3o OR http://www.vidup.de/v/9dNJo/
    66 YEARS OF GENOCIDE AGAINST WHITES WORLD WIDE AND HOLLOCAUSTHOLLOCAUHOLLOCAUS STILL GOING STRONG(suicidal white guilt)

    VISIT ALL NEW “OBAMA = STALIN = BUSH or USA = SOVIET UNION”
    http://avsecbostjan.blogspot.com/ or http://avsecbostjan.wordpress.com/

    IS IT INDEPENDENCE THAT WE CELEBRATE OR DEPENDENCE (what are your credit card bills or alimony saying about it) !!? HOW IS YOUR DIABETES AND LOST MARRIAGES !!? FORECLOSURES AND JOB SEARCH !!? THAT IS THE QUESTION TO BE OR NOT TO BE !!! IS IT LAND OF THE FREE OR STATE OF TERROR AGAINST OWN WHITE POPULATION !!? IT IS TIME TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT COLOR ARE THE STRIPES ON OUR STAR SPANGLED BANNER !!! TIME TO DETERMINE WHOSE INDEPENDENCE/AMERICA, WE CELEBRATE TODAY(who wants to erase us and denies us the right to exist) !!! IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHOM WE ADDRESS WITH "PRESIDENT" (STOP HUMILIATING YOURSELF) !!!

    911(TWIN TOWERS) = NORWAY BOMBING OR STATE SPONSORED TERRORISM !!

    ARIZONA = UTOYA = THERE WAS NO SHOOTING EITHER IN NORWAY OR ARIZONA, BUT “AFTERLIFE” FLASH MOB INSTEAD !! Tear gas and theater were used on faces of multiculturalism maniacs while calling YOU a terrorists !! Guilt or blame and shame weapon against us and our families in our own countries during bogus “economic crises” while importing here non white third world foreigners !!!
    MULTYCULTURALISM = TERRORISM !! OBAMA = OSAMA !!!
    http://stateofterror.blogspot.com/ http://stateofterror.wordpress.com/

    911 WAS CREATED FOR PEOPLE TO WAKE UP(deliberately by CIA)....HOWEVER, WAKE UP EITHER TO WHAT IS TRUTH(sanity) OR WAKE UP TO LIES(insanity = with what your self elected governments have brainwashed you when forcefully jobless/persecuted....therefor­­e, I want you to think about "WAKE UP" when watching next time ALEX JONES = CIA)

    WHEN YOU WAKE UP, I WANT YOU TO WAKE TO YOURSELF AND NOT TO SOMEONE ELSE'S DREAM (ZIONIST/COMMUNIST/LIBERAL DREAM CATCHERS/THIEFS, WHO PLOTTED 911 TO WAKE YOU IN A WORLD OF LIES !!!)

    HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT TRUTH IS !!? WHATEVER YOU WERE BORN IS WHAT YOU ARE(truth therefore) AND FOR WHATEVER REASONS YOU HAVE CHANGED(distorted yourself) SINCE 9/11 IS WHAT YOU ARE NOT !!!

    FOR PIECE OF MIND(sanity), PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES AND REMEMBER, GENOCIDE(health care) BASED ON FORGIVE AND FORGET IS NOT FOR ME !!! DIGNITY, PRIDE, AND HONOR ARE WORTH TO DIE AND KILL FOR !!!

    October 2, 2011 at 6:39 pm |
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      October 3, 2011 at 8:52 am |
  3. Muneef

    By:  Mohammed S. Dajani Daoudi
    Wasatia 
    The Spirit of Islam;

    October 2, 2011 at 6:37 pm |
    • Reality

      The spirit of Islam in action:

      The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century

      ■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

      and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.

      and more recently

      1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

      1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

      2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

      3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles. 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

      4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

      5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

      6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

      7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

      8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

      9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

      10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror

      11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

      12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

      13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

      14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.

      15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.

      16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.

      17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.

      18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.

      19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011

      20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011

      21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.

      22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.

      October 2, 2011 at 11:28 pm |
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      plz hit report abuse on all repeated garbage by reality

      October 3, 2011 at 5:00 am |
  4. Muneef

    Quote;
    Can religious leaders play a constructive role?
    by Hanna Siniora – 28 October 2010.

    JERUSALEM – In a message that concluded two weeks of meetings of the Vatican Synod on the Middle East, the bishops declared that Israel should not use the biblical concept of a promised land or a chosen people to justify new settlements in Jerusalem or territorial claims in the West Bank. The statement also expressed the hope that a two state solution could be made a reality.
    Religion const-i-tutes a part of the problem in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. And since it is part of the problem, it also has to be part of the solution. The peaceful concept of coexistence in Islam, Judaism and Christianity, if properly spread and taught by the religious leaders from the three monotheistic faiths, is key to solving the conflict. It is of particular importance to solving the conflicts over holy places and can lead the way to an accommodation regarding the Jewish and Muslim sanctuaries in Jerusalem. 

    In my opinion, religious leaders are the most credible body to spread the peaceful message that diverse religious narratives can coexist because they have the authority to interpret the holy books. Furthermore, religious leaders are not running for elections and are thus safe with their following and able to influence and tone down religious extremism and build harmonious relations. Each religion holds the potential to sow the seeds for a change in public mood amongst its faithful.

    Religious leaders should be encouraged and supported in their efforts both to assume the responsibility of guiding the public towards peaceful coexistence and to play an active and confident role in shaping public opinion. They have to counter religious extremists and political leaders from using the Word of God for their own political ends, to perpetuate and inflame the conflict. 

    In our conflict, narratives diverge and too often lead to the delegitimising and demonising of the Other. At present, religion is used by those who demand sole ownership over the homeland and the holy places, instead of serving as a tool for reconciling and accepting the need to both share the land and respect the religious needs of the three faiths. 
    http://www.commongroundnews.org/article.php?id=28703&lan=en&sp=0

    October 2, 2011 at 6:28 pm |
  5. Richard S Kaiser

    Religion is for those who fear hell while spirituality is for those who live it.

    October 2, 2011 at 12:05 pm |
  6. Rainer Braendlein

    The gospel of Jesus Christ, the eternal Son of God and a person of the Holy Trinity:

    Jesus Christ has borne our sins on the cross. Believe it and get baptized (if you have yet received infant baptism, don't get baptized again; your infant baptism is valid and you can refer to your infant baptism). At baptism the power of Jesus death and resurrection is/was dedicated to you. Your old man of sin dies and you resurrect together with Jesus (these are spiritual realities). By Jesus' divine power you can start a new life in righteousness. God gives you righteousness or a righteous life for free. Rightousness means loving God and your neighbour (next-door neighbour, classmate, workmate, ...). The details of Christian Life you can find in the Sermon on the Mount (Gospel of Matthew 5-7).

    Read the book "The Cost of Discipleship" by pastor Dr. Dietrich Bonhoeffer (he was a German pastor of the Confessing Church, who fighted against the Nazis).

    Jesus offers deliverance for everybody: Muslims, Catholics, secular people and anybody else.

    October 2, 2011 at 10:23 am |
    • NoJihadToday

      Bonhoffer was awesome!

      October 2, 2011 at 7:52 pm |
  7. Rainer Braendlein

    Passage from the above article:

    “Al-Awlaki will no longer spread his hate speech over the Internet to Muslim youth provoking them to engage in violence against Americans. We reiterate that as an American faith community we do not accept violence nor extremism and recommit ourselves to our message living our faith in peace, tolerance, and the promotion of the public good,” Abdul-Malik continued.

    Unquote.

    Imam Abdul-Malik is a dangerous liar. Islamic Holy War (Jihad) belongs to the core tenets of Islam. Actually the word Islam means conducting war against the infidels (people of the Western World). I constantly read the Koran and the last thing, which I have figured out, was that Muhammad even says that only a fighting Muslim is a real Muslim. Muhammad says a Muslim, who is not ready to participate in Jihad, puts at risk paradise. Only a Jihadist will surely get into heaven. That is the doctrine of the Koran.

    If a Muslim really wants to live a life of love, he had to convert to Christianity. Islam is the "belief of hate" or the anti-faith in contrast to Christianity, which is the real faith of love. No honest man can remain a Muslim and claim that he loves his Christian neighbours. Islam means hate, death and destruction. Everybody, who wants to love, must abandon Islam.

    October 2, 2011 at 9:58 am |
    • Another Perspective

      Islam means "submission" to the will of God........Jihad means to "struggle" and can refer to a person's inner struggle. You can read a book, but if you do not know what the words mean you will not understand anything!

      October 2, 2011 at 2:00 pm |
    • NoJihadToday

      But in context, it means submission to Islam, by force or choice. And Jihad means to spread Islam by force, to fight against those who are "infidels". You can try to sugar coat it, but only "moderate" muslims and some liberals drink the Islam cool-aid.

      October 2, 2011 at 7:56 pm |
  8. Infidel

    Look around, will ya? Today, there is not another religion in the world that consistently produces terrorism in the name of religion as does ISLAM.

    The most dangerous Muslims are nearly always those who interpret the Koran most strictly. They are the fundamentalists or purists of the faith, and believe in Muhammad’s mandate to spread Islamic rule by the sword, putting to death those who will not “submit nor surrender”, as per the definition of a “muslim”.

    October 2, 2011 at 9:57 am |
    • Another Perspective

      I suggest you read about how Islam spread in Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim country. They was no conversion by the sword as you describe. You seem to have no idea about 1,400 years of history that led to some of the most major scientific discoveries for mankind. Please spend some time and read.

      October 2, 2011 at 2:10 pm |
  9. Infidel

    Islamic militants, radicals, extremists, al-Qaida, fundamentalists, the Muslim Brotherhood, jihadists, or whatever is the PC term for today are actually "good" Muslims, not bad ones. The "radicals" haven't corrupted Islam, hijacked their religion, nor interpreted it incorrectly, and therefore they aren't radicals or extremists! Per every measurement set forth by the cult ideology called ISLAM, Al-Awlaki was a VERY GOOD MUSLIM!!

    Islam isn't a peaceful religion; it is a declaration of war against all mankind. While "bad" Muslims can be moderate, peaceful or "not-Muslim-enough", these people have NO influence because even their “holy” (cough-cough) Koran tells "good" Muslims to KILL them!!

    I wish that our news organizations would answer that question instead of giving us the same 'ole terms like "radical" and "extremists" when all the evidence points that Al-Awlaki was actually being "good" muslim...not a BAD one!!

    October 2, 2011 at 9:46 am |
  10. Rainer Braendlein

    I am reading the Koran the second time. First time it became immediately clear that the Koran is anti-Christian, because several suras of the Koran reject the Holy Trinity and the divine sonship of Jesus Christ. Thank God that at least this was clearly expressed by the false prophet (Muhammad) and thus every Christian, reading the Koran, gets a quick warning by the anti-divine suras.

    However, the malice of the Koran goes much deeper. In Muhammad's eyes Jews and Christians are former believers, having turned apostate. In Muhammad's eyes Judaism and Christianity are beliefs, which have corrupted the genuine faith of Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus, which were Islamic leaders in Muhammad's eyes.

    I wourld really like to know how Muhammad got this ill idea that Judaism and Christianity would be responsible for the misconduct of his (Muhammad's) Roman contemporaries. Please note that at Muhammad's lifetime the Roman Empire still existed and was called Eastern Roman Empire or Byzantium. Christianity was the leading religion of the Eastern Roman Empire. Seemingly Muhammad had made some bad experiences with some Romans (in his eyes Christians), which led him to a bad perception of Christianity.

    Still today all people of the Western World are Christians in the eyes of the Muslims. That is of course a nonsense. It is only that the Christian Church is not persecuted in the Western World. That is the great difference between Western countries and Islamic countries. Moreover still many Westerners are baptized (infant baptism), but regretably don't know or don't want to know that baptism is a divine call to follow Jesus Christ. Although they are baptized, many Westerners live a profane life.

    Muhammad was really ill. He draw totally wrong conclusions. He thought he had to fight against the apostatized Romans (equal to the today Westerners). Jesus Christ never conducted war against the sinners, but preached the gospel. What a great difference between Jesus and Muhammad. Jesus offered deliverance. Muhammad judged.

    Muhammad's main crime was it to presume to be a divine judge. The truth is that little Muhammad will be judged by Jesus Christ, the only legitimate divine judge. Even all Muslims (which presume to be allowed to judge the Westerners) will be judged by the Lord Jesus Christ.

    I live in Munich. For me the Oktoberfest is very disgusting, because it is a festival of drunkards. I will never attend it. However, I would never start to hate the people, attending the Oktoberfest. May many of them become Christians and realize the meaning of their baptism. I myself was a sinner, before God revealed his eternal Son in me.

    For Muslims in Munich the Oktoberfest may be an additonal evidence for the depravity of Christianity, but that is a real nonsense. The people, drinking too much beer on the Oktoberfest, do it, because they don't live as Christians. If they would take serious Christianity, they would not go to the Oktoberfest.

    Dear Muslims, don't be as ill as your prophet. You mustn't judge the Westerners. You yourself are sinners. Your ritual slaughter is animal torture. You hate and even kill the Westerners. You reject Jesus Christ, the eternal Son of God. You reject the Holy Trinity. You lie without limit (you claim Islam would be a religion of peace, but it is clear and sure that Muhammad was an aggressive warlord). You believe in an idol, called Muahmmad (he could never prove that he was a divine prophet by any miracle).

    October 2, 2011 at 9:35 am |
    • Infidel

      Excellent...you hit the nail on the head!

      October 2, 2011 at 9:47 am |
    • Infidel

      I wish to add that Every prime source regarding their muhammad's life confirm that Allah's lone spokesperson wasn't a prophet but was in fact a terrorist – having issued no predictions that came true but having led around over 70 terrorist raids for booty and political power in the first 10 years of the Islamic Era alone! In the 33rd surah, the Koran tells Muslims to follow Muhammad's example. In the 8th and 9th surahs, Allah says that those who do, and become jihadists killing non-Muslims in his cause, are the BEST Muslims.

      So the rationale here isn't complex, or even subject to interpretation. According to Muhammad, Allah, and all of Islam’s “holy” texts”, all “good” Muslims are terrorists.

      October 2, 2011 at 9:49 am |
    • Another Perspective

      You might be surprised to know that Mohammed (peace be upon him) was persecuted by his own people and left Mecca. He was pursued and took refuse in Medina which was ruled by a Christian and when he asked about his beliefs the Christian drew a line in the sand and said the difference between your faith and mine is this line in the sand. The Christian community gave Muhammad (peace be upon him) protection. Many later converted to Islam. I wish you would spend some time and ask Muslims about their religion directly. Visit your local mosque, you might be surprised.

      October 2, 2011 at 2:22 pm |
    • NoJihadToday

      You are 100% correct. The radicals are the ones who are fulfilling the teachings of Islam. Read the Qur'an yourself, and you will see why Saudi Arabia has no temples or churches. Why many mid-east countries beat their woman, and why Israel is such a "threat" to muslims. Very eye opening indeed.

      October 2, 2011 at 7:52 pm |
  11. RR

    Muslims dont like change in their lives, Dont be building a new 7-11 in the neighborhood or add a new stop lite on the street. All hell will break loose.

    October 2, 2011 at 8:26 am |
  12. Jose M. Pulido

    Islamists/Muslims should know that 600 years before Mohammed, Jesus, the Son of God said: “But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you in public” (Matthew 6:6).
    Anyone can talk to God in a prayer any time anywhere.
    There is no need to mandatory go to a mosque to pray five times a day.
    God can only save all those who believe in Him and in the fact that Jesus Christ is his Son. But God “does not” require to murder all those who do not believe in Him and His Son Jesus. Islam requires to murder all those who do not accept such violent ideology and all those who leave it; but isn’t that what violent gangs and mafias also do? Therefore, Islam functions like a gang and like a mafia.
    All Islamists are welcome to make peace with God and the rest of the non Muslim nations by accepting Jesus as their savior. No one is going to behead them if they reject Jesus.
    A people cannot live their life under Islamic duress; Islam requires its followers to conquer the world by force if necessary while Christianity can only be accepted by personal choice.
    It would be wise for Islamists should think about the fact that the only way for them to have peace with their fellow human beings is by detaching themselves from such ideology. Islamist do not have to be suffering the consequences Islam has brought upon them and to the world. Islam promotes forced murder of “infidels,” humiliation and oppression of women and extreme punishments for minor offenses.
    Countries
    People should know that only Israel had prophets. Jesus Christ is not a regular human prophet; He is the Son of God. After Jesus returned to His Father God, there is no need for any more prophets for Israel on any other country. I believe God made an easier way for humanity to reach Him for eternal life by only requiring humankind to believe the fact that Jesus is His Son as it written in John 3:16. And keep in mind that this appeared 600 years before Islam; therefore Christianity was not designed to contradict Islam or to insult all those who do not believe in Jesus.
    Islamists may say: “Oh yeah, we believe in Jesus because He is mentioned in the Quran.” I that were the case, they would put aside the Quran and follow Jesus’ teachings as they are written in the Bible.

    October 2, 2011 at 5:58 am |
    • Reality

      The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians during the past 200 years)

      Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
      and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
      human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven??

      I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
      preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
      named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
      girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

      Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
      the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

      He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
      a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
      Jerusalem.

      Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
      many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
      and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
      Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
      grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
      and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
      called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

      Amen

      October 2, 2011 at 8:05 am |
    • RR

      What a bunch ignorant people spending their lives sticking their butt up in the air 5 times farting peas at their so called Allah.

      October 2, 2011 at 8:43 am |
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      plz hit report abuse on all reality posts

      October 2, 2011 at 9:04 pm |
    • Jake

      @..........

      Reality has the right to express his/her opinion on the matter just like anyone else here, just because you don't like it doesn't mean he should be hushed.

      October 28, 2011 at 12:31 pm |
  13. Mtnmedic

    "... if you read your history you know that god is one of the leading causes of death and has been for thousands of years. Hindus, Moslems, Christians, Jews, all taking turns killing one another, because god told them it was a good idea. The sword of god, the blood of the lamb, Vengeance is mine, onward Christian soldiers. Millions of dead people. All because they gave the wrong answer to the god Question: Do you believe in god?

    No.

    BAM! Dead.

    How about you? Do you believe in god?

    Yes."

    Do you believe in MY god?

    No.

    BAM! Dead!

    My god has a bigger dick than your god."

    -George Carlin, R.I.P.

    October 2, 2011 at 5:04 am |
  14. joe

    Lets see how many Americans killed others around the world over the last 30 years?

    October 2, 2011 at 4:58 am |
    • Reality

      Our War on Terror and Aggression:

      An update (or how we are spending or how we have spent the USA taxpayers’ money to eliminate global terror and aggression)

      The terror and aggression via a Partial and Recent Body Count

      And the koranic/mosque driven acts of terror and horror continue:

      The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century

      ■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

      and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.

      and more recently

      1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

      1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

      2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

      3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles. 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

      4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

      5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

      6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

      7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

      8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

      9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

      10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror

      11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

      12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

      13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

      14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.

      15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.

      16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.

      17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.

      18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.

      19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011

      20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011

      21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.

      22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.

      Continued below:
      Other elements of our War on Terror and Aggression:

      -Operation Iraqi Freedom- The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles as of 09/15/2011/, 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

      – Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed mostly due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror,

      – Sa-dd-am, his sons and major he-nchmen have been deleted. Sa-dd-am's bravado about WMD was one of his major mistakes. Kuwait was saved.

      – Iran is being been contained. (beside containing the Sunni-Shiite civil war in Baghdad, that is the main reason we are in Iraq. And yes, essential oil continues to flow from the region.)

      – North Korea is still u-ncivil but is contained.

      – Northern Ireland is finally at peace.

      – The Jews and Palestinians are being separated by walls. Hopefully the walls will follow the 1948 UN accords. Unfortunately the Annapolis Peace Conference was not successful. And unfortunately the recent events in Gaza has put this situation back to “squ-are one”. And this significant stupidity is driven by the mythical foundations of both religions!!!

      – – Fa-na–tical Islam has basically been contained to the Middle East but a wall between India and Pakistan would be a plus for world peace. Ditto for a wall between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

      – Timothy McVeigh was exe-cuted. Terry Nichols escaped the death penalty twice because of deadlocked juries. He was sentenced to 161 consecutive life terms without the possibility of parole,[3][7] and is incarcerated in ADX Florence, a super maximum security prison near Florence, Colorado. He shares a cellblock that is commonly referred to as "Bombers Row" with Ramzi Yousef and Ted Kaczynski

      – Eric Ru-dolph is spending three life terms in pri-son with no par-ole.

      – Jim Jones, David Koresh, Kaczynski, the "nuns" from Rwanda, and the KKK were all dealt with and either eliminated themselves or are being punished.

      – Islamic Sudan, Dar-fur and So-malia are still terror hot spots.
      – The terror and tor-ture of Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo and Kuwait were ended by the proper application of the military forces of the USA and her freedom-loving friends. Ra-dovan Karadzic was finally captured on 7/23/08 and is charged with genocide, crimes against humanity and violations of the law of war – charges related to the 1992-1995 civil war that followed Bosnia-Herzegovina's secession from Yugoslavia.

      The capture of Ratko Mladić: (Serbian Cyrillic: Ратко Младић, pronounced [râtkɔ mlǎːditɕ], born 12 March 1943[1][2]) is an accused war criminal and a former Bosnian Serb military leader. On May 31, 2011, Mladić was extradited to The Hague, where he was processed at the detention center that holds suspects for the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY).[3] His trial began on 3 June 2011.

      – the bloody terror brought about by the Ja-panese, Na-zis and Co-mmunists was with great difficulty eliminated by the good guys.

      – Bin Laden was executed for crimes against humanity on May 1, 2011

      – Ditto for Al-Awlaki on 9/30/2011

      October 2, 2011 at 8:09 am |
    • RR

      So I guess if someone punches you in the mouth , you would just run home crying to your Mommy....

      October 2, 2011 at 8:49 am |
    • Infidel

      Nice try...No other RELIGION like ISLAM produces the killing sprees that Islam does nearly every day of the year. Neither do they have verses in their holy texts that arguably support it. Nor do they have large groups across the globe dedicated to the mass murder of people who worship a different god and don’t wish to “submit and surrender” to the moon-god-allah.

      You Muslims and yoru appeasing liberal friends may like to pretend that other religions are just as subject to "misinterpretation" as is their “perfect” one, but the reality and their ACTIONS (and inactions) speaks of something far worse.

      October 2, 2011 at 9:54 am |
    • .........

      plz hit report abuse on all reality garbage

      October 2, 2011 at 9:05 pm |
  15. mmi16

    God is God.

    Religion is a invention of MAN!

    October 2, 2011 at 3:35 am |
  16. dinak

    This article is a lie and crock. CNN left out the majority of people that said they are ticked off by al awlakis murder by Obama, and print the quotes of the rare exceptions to make us think that muslims love us so much, and disapprove of terrorists, when nothing could be further from the truth.

    October 2, 2011 at 3:32 am |
    • Peace2All

      @dinak

      Psst... Not 'all' Muslim's want to kill us all.

      Peace...

      October 2, 2011 at 4:06 am |
    • joe

      You are an idiot.

      October 2, 2011 at 4:53 am |
  17. F L Schmild.

    Ho ho. Now there's only 548. Democracy in action.

    October 2, 2011 at 3:20 am |
  18. F L Schmild.

    Where did comment go? I don't see it.

    October 2, 2011 at 3:09 am |
  19. daken

    unless and until we get to the root, this problem will not be over ... we need to ban Islam and ban Kuran. Until then, no muslim can be trusted...

    October 2, 2011 at 1:01 am |
    • Spiffy

      Why not ban all religion then?

      October 2, 2011 at 1:14 am |
    • Hiruu

      I say ban all religion, as christianity is responsible for just as much cruelty and suffering!

      October 2, 2011 at 1:28 am |
    • Marcus

      You're right.

      October 2, 2011 at 1:49 am |
    • The Real Truth

      Muslims worship a demon as a god. They need to worship the one and only God: Jesus/The Father/Holy Spirit.

      October 2, 2011 at 2:01 am |
    • parkmore

      Go eat McDonald and then to the hospital. That's your life

      October 2, 2011 at 2:13 am |
    • md2205

      To those commenters who want to ban all religion: Remember, G-d created the world, but did not create the religions of the world other than Judaism and the Seven Laws of Noah, the latter which are meant to be practiced as religion by all mankind. They are: to believe in One G-d, not to blaspheme Him, not to murder, not to steal or kidnap, not to do adultery, not to eat the limb of a living animal (animal cruelty) and to set up effective courts of justice. These laws are what would make the world a just society to live in and create the kind of world G-d would be comfortable in, as He wants us to live peacefully with each other.

      October 2, 2011 at 2:51 am |
    • Peace2All

      @md2205

      " Remember, G-d created the world,"...etc... etc...

      Don't you realize that you are already starting out your premise with an unproven assumption...? i.e..(There 'is' a God).

      Everything else you stated is based on the Bible, which was written by men.

      You said: " ...create the kind of world (G-d) would be *comfortable* in "... W T F...?

      Regards,

      Peace...

      October 2, 2011 at 4:11 am |
  20. Reality

    From p. 6:

    What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon? And what drives today's 24/7 mosque/imam-planned acts of terror and horror? The koran, Mohammed's book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means. Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed. Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein.

    Until then, no female or male Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere..................................

    as the koranic/mosque driven acts of terror and horror continue:

    The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century

    ■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

    and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.

    and more recently

    1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

    1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

    2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

    3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles. 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

    4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

    5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

    6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

    7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

    8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

    9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

    10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror

    11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

    12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

    13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

    14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.

    15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.

    16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.

    17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.

    18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.

    19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011

    20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011

    21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.

    22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) – Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.

    October 2, 2011 at 12:18 am |
    • Satan

      Dang it stop telling everyone the truth. Youre gonna mess up my big plan of deception. Islam has always been a piece loving religion. We like to blow people up in pieces!

      October 2, 2011 at 12:50 am |
    • sanjosemike

      Your list of mayhem caused by Muslims is woefully short and incomplete. As more and more unstable Muslim countries obtain nuclear weapons, the chances of human survival on the earth as a species become less and less. It actually takes hundreds and hundreds of pages to list the destruction caused by Islam.

      At issue is the "Shi'a vs. Sunni enmity and wars that have gone on since 632. Now Iran is developing nuclear weapons not just to get rid of Israel, but also to force Arabs into the Shi'a branch of Islam. They are willing to use nuclear weapons to force the 12th Imam.

      Personally I'm glad that I'm an older person and will not live to see the continued havoc that Islam will produce.

      "If we lose to Islam, we lose everything."

      sanjosemike

      October 2, 2011 at 1:14 am |
    • Marcus

      Glad you're here.

      October 2, 2011 at 1:50 am |
    • dinak

      Muslims are feral humans.

      October 2, 2011 at 3:33 am |
    • Mitch

      Stupid Moron. How about listing how many US killed in the last 2 centuries ...

      Ruled 200 years and wiped out 95% of red indians ..
      Muslims rules India for 800 years and killed only 1% .. OMG thats a shame on muslims lol
      U pathetic hatemonger go stick ya 1 inch in a hole and look at yourself before u point fingers at others.

      October 2, 2011 at 4:09 am |
    • joe

      Some of you are so stupid. I'm beginning to think most people that comment here have some sort of retardation. Many of you can probably be clinically diagnosed as retarded.

      October 2, 2011 at 4:57 am |
    • Reality

      The Twenty (or so) Worst Things People Have Done to Each Other:

      From: M. White, http://necrometrics.com/warstatz.htm#u (required reading)

      The Muslim Conquest of India

      "The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

      Rank …..Death Toll ..Cause …..Centuries……..Religions/Groups involved*

      1. 63 million Second World War 20C (Christians et al and Communists/atheists vs. Christians et al, Nazi-Pagan and "Shintoists")

      2. 40 million Mao Zedong (mostly famine) 20C (Communism)

      3. 40 million Genghis Khan 13C (Shamanism or Tengriism)

      4. 27 million British India (mostly famine) 19C (Anglican)

      5. 25 million Fall of the Ming Dynasty 17C (Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Chinese folk religion)

      6. 20 million Taiping Rebellion 19C ( Confucianism, Buddhism and Chinese folk religion vs. a form of Christianity)

      7. 20 million Joseph Stalin 20C (Communism)

      8. 19 million Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C (Islam)

      9. 17 million Timur Lenk 14C-15C

      10. 16 million Atlantic Slave Trade 15C-19C (Christianity)

      11. 15 million First World War 20C (Christians vs. Christians)

      12. 15 million Conquest of the Americas 15C-19C (Christians vs. Pagans)

      13. 13 million Muslim Conquest of India 11C-18C

      14. 10 million An Lushan Revolt 8C

      15. 10 million Xin Dynasty 1C

      16. 9 million Russian Civil War 20C (Christians vs Communists)

      17. 8 million Fall of Rome 5C (Pagans vs. Pagans)

      18. 8 million Congo Free State 19C-20C (Christians)

      19. 7½ million Thirty Years War 17C (Christians vs Christians)

      20. 7½ million Fall of the Yuan Dynasty 14C

      *:" Is religion responsible for more violent deaths than any other cause?

      A: No, of course not – unless you define religion so broadly as to be meaningless. Just take the four deadliest events of the 20th Century – Two World Wars, Red China and the Soviet Union – no religious motivation there, unless you consider every belief system to be a religion."

      Q: So, what you're saying is that religion has never killed anyone.

      A: Arrgh... You all-or-nothing people drive me crazy. There are many doc-umented examples where members of one religion try to exterminate the members of another religion. Causation is always complex, but if the only difference between two warring groups is religion, then that certainly sounds like a religious conflict to me. Is it the number one cause of mass homicide in human history? No. Of the 22 worst episodes of mass killing, maybe four were primarily religious. Is that a lot? Well, it's more than the number of wars fought over soccer, or s-ex (The Trojan and Sabine Wars don't even make the list.), but less than the number fought over land, money, glory or prestige.

      In my Index, I list 41 religious conflicts compared with 27 oppressions under "Communism", 24 under Colonialism, 2 under "Railroads" and 2 under "Scapegoats". Make of that what you will."

      October 2, 2011 at 8:03 am |
    • .........

      plz hit report abuse on all reality repeat garbage posts

      October 2, 2011 at 8:06 am |
    • Infidel

      He is absolutely correct! Just look at the last 10 years since 9/11 alone, there have been perhaps a dozen or so religiously-inspired killings by people of all other faiths (other than ISLAM) COMBINED.

      No other religion like ISLAM produces the killing sprees that Islam does nearly every day of the year. Neither do they have verses in their holy texts that arguably support it. Nor do they have large groups across the globe dedicated to the mass murder of people who worship a different god and don’t wish to “submit and surrender” to the moon-god-allah.

      Muslims may like to pretend that other religions are just as subject to "misinterpretation" as is their “perfect” one, but the reality and their ACTIONS (and inactions) speaks of something far worse.

      October 2, 2011 at 9:52 am |
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