September 30th, 2011
05:33 PM ET

Worshippers at al-Awlaki's old mosque 'not glad' he's dead, but 'it's helpful'

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Falls Church, Virginia (CNN)– Worshippers hurried by a host of cameras and reporters on their way to Friday prayers at the Dar Al Hijrah Islamic Center. Many of those who stopped to ask about the gaggle of media found out for the first time American Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, who once stood in their pulpit, had been killed Friday by a CIA drone strike in Yemen.

“I think he should have gotten a proper burial as a Muslim, but as a human being I don’t think he was right for his mentality and his morality,” said Jouwad Syed, who recently started attending the Dar Al Hijrah Islamic Center.

“In a way, we’re not glad that he’s dead. At the same token, it’s helpful. We’re trying to clear our name. There’s crazy people everywhere you go in different religions. He’s just one of the few and he definitely doesn’t represent what Islam is all about,” Syed said.

Al-Awlaki was the imam at Al-Hijarh from January 2001 until 2002, when he left the United States for London before eventually resettling in Yemen. While he was in the States he preached to and interacted with three of the September 11, 2001, hijackers, according to the 9/11 Commission report, but he publicly condemned the attack afterward.

“While employed at Dar Al-Hijrah, he was known for his interfaith outreach, civic engagement, and tolerance in the Northern Virginia community,” Imam Johari Abdul-Malik, the current leader of the mosque said in a written statement. “However, after Mr. Al-Awlaki’s departure in 2002, he was arrested by Yemeni authorities and allegedly tortured. It was then that Al-Awlaki began preaching violence.”

His ability to speak English and communicate the positions of al-Queda drew al-Awlaki the nickname “the bin Laden of the Internet.”

“Al-Awlaki will no longer spread his hate speech over the Internet to Muslim youth provoking them to engage in violence against Americans. We reiterate that as an American faith community we do not accept violence nor extremism and recommit ourselves to our message living our faith in peace, tolerance, and the promotion of the public good,” Abdul-Malik continued.

Read more about al-Awlaki on CNN's Security Clearance blog

“Some one that’s not in line with Islam; you gotta break away from them,” said Monsoor Rashid, who works for the Army National Guard as a civilian contractor and was on his way into the mosque for noonday prayers.

“Actions of some folks who go to this mosque don’t represent what the mosque is all about. I live in the area, born and raised in America. We don’t obviously feel the same way he did or any of the other terrorists,” Rashid said.

While the mosque has condemned the actions and statements of al-Awlaki, who helped recruit a Nigerian man who tried to blow up a plane in Detroit in 2009 using an underwear bomb, they also expressed their displeasure with manner of his killing.

“We must also add that in previous statements we have rejected the use of extrajudicial assassination of any human being and especially an American citizen which includes Al-Awlaki. We reiterate our commitment to 'due process under law' and justice and are concerned that the alleged drone attack sends the wrong message to law abiding people around the world,” Abdul-Malik’s statement read.

“I would have preferred that he had suffered life in prison. If he’s dead, he’s dead. He didn’t really get to suffer,” Syed said.

Arsalan Iftikhar, the managing editor of the Crescent Post and author of Islamic Pacifism said, “There might be people who might not have fully agreed with the methodology used but I think there are very few people in the Muslim community who are going to lose any sleep at all over the death of Anwar al-Awlaki. If anything he was a stain on the community, both here domestically and globally.”

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: 9/11 • Belief • Islam

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  1. hippypoet

    Come one come all, see the fantasticly real god! feel its touch, warmth, the burn, feel the god that you have been without for so very long! come with me and you will see a true sight to behold more then anyother and the best part is, no special offerings are needed, no place of whorship, just an open hand of life and death. This is the one true god as we know any form of gods on earth. This is the one and only creation that can bring life and death by simple existence. It knows more about the history of our planet then our planet itself. It is what scorned the jews in the dessert not an invisible creation of man! This is what people see when they claim to have seen the light! Only two special days a year, and we get a bonus show of dissappearance and reappearance every so often. My God has shown me the path that lay before me, and said not to me to follow one or the other but instead left it upon me to make my own choice of which way to go. The most important thing about my God is that is has children, but they are not to be whorshipped as they are rivals in the cosmos for the love of my God. The closer you are to my God is not always the safest however, as is being the furthest away. Both have a negitive affect. My God knows math, and science, most importantly knows balance, and teaches without teaching. But my God does scorn the ignorant! Come and whorship with me that which has been whorshipped by the greatest people ever known, whorshipped the longest by the most people in history. Come feel the warmth of my God, and know what it is to live with God always there to shining a light on you. I call my God the SUN. Others have called it Aton the sun disk, but that was 3000 years ago in Egypt, even then the whorship of the SUN was an ancient one long forgotten by the Eyptians at that time. E ven if you wish not to follow belief is not needed as proof of my God is there, all around you, in every thing you touch shows its power.Oh and my God doesn't do to anyone differently then anyother, all shall recieve equal treatment. Go and be in the light

    October 1, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      Your enthusiastically potent periphery of narrowed causation is but a solarized periphery only. Worshipping the Sun is but worshipping a place of firey torment and many who are born there are ever attempting to escape it's hell's fires. Only by being reduced to a photonic nodule can one hope to escape any stars' embitterring lamentations. I would rather place my bets upon Gaia, our mothered earth of which she did bare the sky God, Uranus as told of in old times. Uranus did fertilize Gaia and she did give birth to all celestail based Life such as a tree or a fish or even mankind. In her fleshy firmentations is our heavens of many and it is there where all good people go hile the rest are hurled into the lonely places of outer space never again to be considered by Gaia and her bosomed firmaments flesh, our heavens of Her Heavenly abode.

      October 1, 2011 at 3:44 pm |
    • hippypoet

      sorry Richard, but Gaia the earth mother which is the god of earth after the Sun created the earth, so yours is a lesser god, but i will not say that the t!itle of god should be removed, for the power over creatures is no less.

      October 1, 2011 at 3:51 pm |
  2. Richard S Kaiser

    silvertop wrote on Saturday, October 1, 2011 at 2:38 pm, stating thusly, "Richard, see John 3:16. Jesus is the only Son of God through His redemption we receive forgiveness and new life and perspective. The Holy Spirit dwells in believers to guide them to love, to do good. In love, there is no fear."

    Genesis 6:2 That the "sons of God" saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose..

    Genesis 6:4 "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown."

    Seems that the Gospel of Genesis out-trumps the Gospel of John,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    October 1, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

      I can only believe in John 3:16 that GOD's first manifestation of the god-elements did thru timed progressives eventually became the LOrd Christ Jesus,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 🙂

      October 1, 2011 at 3:29 pm |
  3. nik green

    Anwar al Awlaki was MURDERED without a trial. What does that mean? Before jerking the knees, think about it, before jerking your knees about "terrorism".

    Without a trial, his involvement in terrorist attacks remains UNKNOWN. For all we know, he may be entirely innocent. That is a fact, even if it violates our media-programmed and conditioned comfort zones. The only things we have to go on, are pronouncements in the corporate media, echoing the words of the intelligence community and the US military. But here's the huge problem: The Central Intelligence Agency has long ceased to be a national asset (if it ever was, that is), but is now a monstrous $50 billion a year liability, which for decades has lied serially about numerous events abroad, brought the good name of the US into such disrepute via the funding, arming and general support of the most evil and violent regimes throughout the world.

    Similarly, the FBI.. … which appears in the latest revelations published in salon.com, to organize terror attacks by enticing and training young, naive, teenage Muslim boys to commit acts of terror for reward. Then the agency "busts" the kid(s) and then trumpets their "success" to the corporate media, which in turn terrorizes the public with stories of "terrorists trying to kill us wherever we go" ... without even investigating these incidents to report on their real nature.

    Then, think about the reality of terrorism. If "al Qaeda" was the threat that has been force-fed to us by government and the weasel media in full-on "knee-pad" mode, then where are the attacks? Comparing with the Provisional IRA, which was a genuine, "bona fide" terrorist group, with funding provided, ironically from the US, they bombed low security targets in the UK and Europe on a daily basis, killing thousands and injuring 10s of thousands over a 25 year period. Incidentally, Rep. Peter King (R, NY) was one of the IRA's chief funders.. and now he sits on a powerful Homeland Security congressional committee. Go figure... a terrorist in DC! (One of many). Whats next...

    What is the comparative activity in the US courtesy of those foreigners who allegedly "hate our freedoms"? To build a bomb and hit low security, or "soft" targets, is child's play.. ask any of the hundreds of thousands of young lads in this country with a penchant for home-made "chemistry experiments. In other words, if its easy for a kid, then its "child's play" for a real terrorist with paramilitary training and hate in his heart...

    ......but nothing is happening. Nobody is bombing our malls, theaters, sports facilities, libraries, trains, buses and infrastructure. Is it because it's too easy? Is it because security has become so efficient? Ha! Maybe, perhaps, these pesky Arabs prefer a challenge, a real tussle with authority? Maybe, they feel they have to go for the highest security places, namely *airports*, with "bombs" that are incapable of exploding, or devices so small and ineffectual (such as the alleged shoe bomber or underwear bomber) that they could were only capable of perhaps setting fire to the would be jihadist's clothing, let alone bringing down a jumbo jet. And both these incidents were set up by the FBI, as mentioned in the previous paragraph. .. as was the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. Google: Emad Salem. There you will find out what really happened that morning 18 years ago… and the FBI's complicity.

    The few attacks attributed to "al Qaeda" were the 1990s bombings of the US embassies in Africa and the USS Cole.... (the latter was arguably not a "terrorist" incident because the target was a military asset). Then, we have 9/11. This huge and world shattering event was totally out of pattern for anything previously attributed to "al Qaeda"... and placed them in "terrorist superstar" status.. Shock and Awe® was accomplished in a matter of 90 minutes, via a series of media broadcast events, unfolding in real time… in great detail. That morning, those alleged 19 young men with little or no military training and lousy piloting abilities, managed to run rings around the most powerful military/law enforcement/intelligence network, in its own back yard, without even a hint of a response. Then in the process, these 19 apparent wizards managed to knock down 3 buildings with 2 (two!) planes, and to add insult to injury and mass murder, they violated 4 of the most fundamental laws of physics in the process. Then the government refused to investigate what happened for 411 days, and when it did, the inquiry was railroaded, starved of funding and had little time to finish. Who was being protected here? al Qaeda agents, of course. (?!!)

    I hope we all get the point. America has been hijacked, not by Muslim militants, but by a small, rogue, well-connected element within our own military/intelligence community... and our huge lumbering government is not fulfilling its responsibilities in bringing everyone who was responsible to justice. Muslims are the designated "bete noir", because that is what Americans have been conditioned to believe for decades. No wonder the powers that be have had such an easy job of selling the 9/11 official conspiracy theory yarn... it was what we WANTED to believe.

    And similarly with Anwar al Awliki. Because he has been designated as "boogeyman du jour", mainstream media reading Americans do not require *evidence* that he was guilty of anything. Just the fact he has an Arabic name sells it neatly…..

    Think about it. And, given that the government has now set the dangerous precedent that anyone... especially people who question the government, like this poster here, can be designated as a terrorist, and terminated without question…..

    That could mean YOU too.

    October 1, 2011 at 2:34 pm |
    • No Tea For Me

      That was a lot of space and a lot of theory. I don't buy it. Al-Awhackee deserved what he got, and I am not worried that "it could happen to me."

      October 1, 2011 at 2:42 pm |
    • Yakobi

      FOAD. You think you convince ANYONE with your cut & paste conspiracy theory rhetoric? Go move to Waziristan. I'd like to see how long you last before the muslim elders play soccer with your severed head.

      October 1, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
    • cajr

      you really should apply for al-Awlaki's old job. and if you do just remember this: by the time you hear the hellfire you are already dead.

      October 1, 2011 at 3:04 pm |
    • Kevin C

      Wow. That was a whole lot of words for very little content. But, nice try, blowhard. You spent a lot of time trying to downplay Al-Qaeda as a threat. Sorry, but the 3000 families that lost loved ones on 9/11 are going to disagree with you. And the rest of us are going to disagree with you. Feel free to use your passport, a**hole.

      October 1, 2011 at 3:11 pm |
    • LarrySoCal

      Nik, great commentary. I suggest to all of those who thinks "nik" is some kind of conspiracy nut, to check out "The Detachment" by Barry Eisler. It is available on Kindle, that is the version I just finished.

      Mr. Eisler, according to the publisher, "spent three years in a covert position with the CIA" and has been there done that.

      Many things in that book, while a work of fiction, are, according to Mr. Eisler,–largely based on fact–and should not be taken lightly. Much of what Nik has written is very possibly, even likely, to be spot on. People should not dismiss out of hand what they don't understand. Or what they think they understand. To do so is a perilous form of folly.

      October 1, 2011 at 3:14 pm |
    • Dolphinvet

      So what if he was murdered? People are murdered all the time. Over 3000 people were intentionally murdered in the name of Islam on 9/11. He was inciting violence and continued murder against Americans. It might have been murder, but this is war.

      October 1, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
    • LarrySoCal

      SO no one thinks for one second that I do not believe we were attacked by al Qaeda on 9/11, on the attack on the Cole, the first WTC bombing, the Ft. Hood massacre (perpetrated by Major Hassan and the other terrorist attacks against this country, which I fervently and frequently condemn, I want to make myself clear. I was merely pointing out that things do happen in this and many other countries without our knowledge, and we can't always know what out elected leaders are up to.

      Sorry if anyone got the wrong impression.

      October 1, 2011 at 3:27 pm |
    • nik green

      The responses to my post are fascinating, and worrying. Those who are name-calling me (perhaps in the lack of an argument or coherent material), are merely regurgitating what has been sold to them by the corporate media, without a SHRED of proof or evidence. That is how the current plunge towards dystopia has been realized... by pandering towards what Americans PREFER to believe. I guess I hit a raw nerve somewhere....

      October 1, 2011 at 3:50 pm |
  4. Altee11

    Whatever Anwar Al-Awlaki taught and preached must now be looked upon in the same way that Hitler's teachings have been looked upon, since his death.

    October 1, 2011 at 2:20 pm |
  5. Martin

    Oh to live in a country that knows how to get along with other countries and is not a target of extremist hatred and doesn't have to go along year-in, year-out fighting stupid wars and "taking people out" and in the process making yet more enemies!!!

    October 1, 2011 at 2:19 pm |
    • Altee11

      The enemies were always there because anyone who stepped into their game and interfered with their power and control over the people would be someone they would oppose.
      There are people who hate peace-lovers, even. It seems people will find a way to hate.

      October 1, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
  6. vkmo

    Sirhan Sirhan who killed Robert Kennedy has been in jail since 1968 costing millions to taxpayers. Country can't afford that.

    October 1, 2011 at 2:19 pm |
    • Ken Fitzer

      Millions? Really? I suspect the cost per annum to house a prisoner is much less than your supposition.
      Prosecuting a death penalty case costs three times what a similar case for life imprisonment. Opting for a life sentence over the death penalty results in the first 40 years of incarceration to be fully paid for by the savings.

      That being said, I support the method by which al-Awlaki was taken out. He clearly declared himself a combatant.


      October 1, 2011 at 2:29 pm |
  7. Reality

    And the idiocy of it all is that Islam is based on the "angelic revelations" of the mythical Gabriel to one of the great con men of history, Mohammed. Such ignorance can be easily classifed as "vomit inducing".

    As the koranic/mosque driven acts of terror and horror continue:

    The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century

    ■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

    and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.

    and more recently

    1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

    1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

    2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

    3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles. 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

    4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

    5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

    6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

    7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

    8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

    9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

    10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror

    11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

    12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

    13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

    14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.

    15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.

    16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.

    17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.

    18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.

    19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011

    20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011

    21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.

    22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.

    October 1, 2011 at 2:14 pm |
    • HonestAbe

      You forgot the over 2 million killed in Southern Sudan whose only crime was that they were Christians or Animists and refused to accept sharia law.

      October 1, 2011 at 2:32 pm |
    • MySunnyBalentine

      why dont you include the number of people killed by Christian Terrorists since youre at it.. like I dunno, the tens of thousands of people who were killed during the Crusades, the unknown thousands of black people lynched and killed during slavery, the native american population who has essentially been wiped out.. yea buddy.. Shut the F up.. I can easily go on Wiki and find enough sources of violent acts and atrocities committed over the past few 100 years and link them to Catholics or Hindus etc and come up with a list that will demonize them as being "evil"... its quite easy.. except unlike youre no life having a$$, I dont have the time to.

      October 1, 2011 at 2:56 pm |
  8. Allah has mercy

    I bet they are planning on bombing the White House.

    October 1, 2011 at 1:58 pm |
    • loec

      Do you relize, the war on terror has cost the united states 2 trillion dollars over seas? And how much has it cost the united states in increasing its security?

      This guy, a American Muslim, should have been snuffed out long ago. I do not want to pay higher taxes for security. But the united states is also at fault. It needs to ween its self off petroleum. That is the underling issue. Muslims especially fanatic ones, do not want a occupied country by non Muslim nationals. If we can find the root cause of hatred in the Muslim community over seas, it would be far cheaper to grant those wishes over seas, then increase security on my tax dollar dime.

      October 1, 2011 at 2:24 pm |
    • MySunnyBalentine

      i bet that all your friends think that you are a tool.

      October 1, 2011 at 2:58 pm |
    • Dolphinvet

      @ loec

      If you want to find the root cause of muslim extremism, read the Quran. That's where it comes from, not the US purchasing oil from Arab nations.

      October 1, 2011 at 3:30 pm |
  9. Napoleon7

    Terrorism is a TACTIC. Religion is a tool used to control. Terror is a tool used by the weak, since they don't have the military might to conquer their opponents. THe people that we are fighting today are people that hate the west for various reasons, but a lot of it has to do with the west domination of the middle east for years. THose people use the tool of control (in this case Islam, since they're all muslims there). THe same things have happened over the centuries with every religion. Don't forget about the Spanish "bringing" catholicism to the Americas. They wanted to spread catholicism around the world... at the point of a sword. The ancient Jews did it too. Any religion can be used for evil

    October 1, 2011 at 1:53 pm |
    • Altee11

      Terrorism is more than a tactic. It's a view of the world that believes that sowing discord and dissent will ensure a world without order in which crime and war can be waged with impunity. Terror's ultimate goal is anarchy so that tyranny can reign. That is why it is used by people of all backgrounds. Terrorism is an overall view of the world that seeks to subjugate everything else. It's how criminal's and war mongers of all sorts see the world; it is an actual ideology. It must be battled by all.

      October 1, 2011 at 3:36 pm |
  10. Richard S Kaiser

    Muslim fundamentalism and christian fundamentalism and atheist extremism along with socialized endowments makes life turn round. These four baseline qualities within the naturism of the people do entail the conjuring within lifetimes of multi-generational squanderings in sublime principalities.

    October 1, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
    • JohnR

      There are free online dictionaries. Use one!

      October 1, 2011 at 2:31 pm |
    • Ken Fitzer

      I'm sorry. I missed these Atheist acts of terror. Care to enlighten us?

      October 1, 2011 at 2:32 pm |
    • terry

      it is obvious that you work in a meat market, because to sure know how to "butcher" the English Lanuage!

      October 1, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
    • bipar08

      @johnr who cares?

      October 1, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
  11. o8sys

    Why are they reluctant to 'approve' of the death of a mass murdering terrorist? Because they sympathize a fellow Muslim, even if he inspired the killing of Christian Americans? they need to make their point of view clear on this....Americans were killed by those inspired and recruited by this buy....why the hesitation to absolutely condemn him? Is it possible they are worried about looking like compromisers to the jihadist ideal?

    October 1, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
  12. Richard S Kaiser

    I 'personally" fear the vast size of GOD which is immeasurable. Yet, I do so love the Sons of GOD who, in their sub-celestial plains of the atomized cosmos are ever creating buildings that are temples and inside them do GOD's Sons live. GOD's Sons are Gods in their own righteous plains of sub-celestially conditioned atomic nodulations. Outer space belongs to GOD while inner space belongs to GOD's Sons.

    The kingdoms of the Gods endowed in GOD's body, are the firmaments which are but systems called universes in immeasurable amounts, and are ever being formalized into existence by the will of GOD.

    October 1, 2011 at 1:23 pm |
    • Bill

      Weird how all the big GOD's make this so distracting to read.

      October 1, 2011 at 1:49 pm |
    • john

      GOD created man to follow life at his own free will though we are all supposed to follow by his good word. Poor spelling, poor grammar, iirathional extremist views and so much more are all man made things about themselves. GOD gave us life to do on to others as they would do on to you but unfortunately man continues to destroy himself

      October 1, 2011 at 1:57 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ Bill et al,,,

      Do you Billy conversely affirm or recognizably re-affirm? The choices are yours for the choosing. I for one fear GOD but do so Love the Gods who live deeply inside us and their kingdoms are our bodies.

      Luk 17:21 "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is inside/within you."

      October 1, 2011 at 2:03 pm |
    • Reality

      Bible thu-mping requires a thu-mp in return:

      JC's family and friends had it right 2000 years ago ( Mark 3: 21 "And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself."

      Said passage is one of the few judged to be authentic by most contemporary NT scholars. e.g. See Professor Ludemann's conclusion in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p. 24 and p. 694

      Actually, Jesus was a bit "touched". After all he thought he spoke to Satan, thought he changed water into wine, thought he raised Lazarus from the dead etc. In today's world, said Jesus would be declared legally insane.

      Or did P, M, M, L and J simply make him into a first century magic-man via their epistles and gospels of semi-fiction? Most contemporary NT experts after thorough analyses of all the scriptures go with the latter magic-man conclusion with J's gospels being mostly fiction.

      Obviously, today's followers of Paul et al's "magic-man" are also a bit on the odd side believing in all the Christian mumbo jumbo about bodies resurrecting, and exorcisms, and miracles, and "magic-man atonement, and infallible, old, European, white men, and 24/7 body/blood sacrifices followed by consumption of said sacrifices. Yummy!!!!

      So why do we really care what a first century CE, illiterate, long-dead, preacher man would do or say?

      October 1, 2011 at 2:21 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ john,,, et al,,,,

      You john wrote, "Poor spelling, poor grammar, iirathional extremist views and so much more are all man made things about themselves."

      Things that you wrote upon are how we do diversify the commonalities of being. "Poor spelling" is but a subjective abatement. "Poor grammar" is as well while one's irrationalized extremisms dictate one to gather a few or more who are like minded. Extremism by itself is but a solicitous candelabra waiting to happen. GOD does ever gather together godly elements while GOD's Sons gather the flocks of godly elements to create celestial life forms/formations. We as a race do run the gauntlets of imbecility sometimes being one and many times becoming one yet ever do we wander away from the One who is GOD.

      October 1, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
    • JohnR

      Abatement – A reduction in or reprieve from a tax, debt or any other payment obligation. An abatement is sometimes included in a contract, for example abatement of rent in the event that a building is destroyed by fire, flood or other accident.

      October 1, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
    • silvertop

      Richard, see John 3:16. Jesus is the only Son of God through His redemption we receive forgiveness and new life and perspective. The Holy Spirit dwells in believers to guide them to love, to do good. In love, there is no fear.

      October 1, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ JohnR et al...abatement; to lessen , to suppress or reduce something. (seems we are in disagreements,,, ya think?)

      October 1, 2011 at 2:53 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      silvertop wrote on Saturday, October 1, 2011 at 2:38 pm, stating thusly, "Richard, see John 3:16. Jesus is the only Son of God through His redemption we receive forgiveness and new life and perspective. The Holy Spirit dwells in believers to guide them to love, to do good. In love, there is no fear."

      Genesis 6:2 That the "sons of God" saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose..

      Genesis 6:4 "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown."

      October 1, 2011 at 3:06 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ Reality,,,

      Have you checked all your body cavities for "spare parts"? I know well that you are a "bit touched" in romantic generalizations perfuming the lavishness of christian lore. Your familiar and "touched quotes" are just that, familiar yet maybe mind you, maybe a bit "touched with bigotry".

      October 1, 2011 at 3:14 pm |
  13. TB

    well, here it is. they dont support his extremist views, and perhaps better off dead, BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT....always fence sitting. Now it's "should have gotten a proper burial". Who cares. Did any of the people incinerated or forever lost in the rubble of the twin tower get a proper burial? As far as I am concerned the only proper burial for Awlaki and his ilk is to be thrown to the dogs for food.

    October 1, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
    • Bg

      Why spoil it for the poor pooches...

      October 1, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
  14. Carol

    It's good to hear that some of the Muslims comments in article show they know Al K was wrong in his thinking and actions.

    October 1, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
    • Wastrel

      Yep, CNN managed to find 3 or 4 Muslims who sound reasonable in a staged interview or in a official written statement, after he is dead. Now, CNN, tell us what they said when al-Awlaki was alive. Did they dare to criticize another Muslim?

      October 1, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
    • wiseJay

      I'm sure CNN had to really try hard to find those 1-2% to appear balanced. Hey they are politically correct, sickeningly correct..
      But how many of those they found really tell the truth. If there ever was a fifth column folks, the so called US Moslem community as a whole is it. Sorry for saying things as they really are, somebody has to start before we get another 9-11.

      October 1, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
  15. W.G.

    I think muslims all over the world should prove they take a stand against terrorism by marching in the streets
    with the same zeal they march againsts Israel . Until then , I won´t believe they´re against terrorism . There´s
    to much water under the bridge for me to ever trust muslims again . Please take your religion of hate and murder
    and your families back to where you came from . Even if you were born here go to a country in the far east
    where you can lie to the people there about how yours is the religion of peace .

    October 1, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
    • Ray

      there have been protests of hundreds of thousands of people in muslim countries condeming terrorism. Algeria fought a 20 year war against islamic extremism. Neverthelesss it is a muslim country. More muslims have been victims of terrorism than any other people. So ofcourse they condemn terrorism...

      October 1, 2011 at 1:29 pm |
    • Brian

      I completely agree there is no such thing as co-exist when islam is included in the subject.

      October 1, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
  16. jonathan

    let me apologize for all the many many too innumerable Christians atrosities that have happened in 1700 years.... well, that's just to many... 🙂

    way too many. anyway Jesus said it would happen and it certainly did..he said broad is the way to destruction, and narrow is the path to life...

    in short the path to life is the one which Jesus lived.. let us live as he did and without condemnation. 🙂

    October 1, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
    • wiseJay

      There is a little asterisk to your appology. Those atrocities you refer to were commited in dark ages. The current ones widely committed by Moslems can't be construed explained or justified as a response to events of many centuries ago. There is a significant number of Moslems who either commit or condone horrible atrocities, like beheading a living innocent person and I don't see any condemnation of this by Moslem community even in the US where they have seemingly nothing to fear.

      October 1, 2011 at 2:39 pm |
  17. Name*rob

    Its easy to see this man go from moderation to extremism if in fact held as an enemy combatant and waterboarded in yemen or wherever the same way that mcveigh and every homegrown terrorist probably slowly devolved into much more extreme views.but at the end of the day extremism must have a harsh intolerable response....mcveigh executed. ..This guy also..im not sure this guy was ever gonna be taken alive..so it is what it is

    October 1, 2011 at 12:52 pm |
  18. mel56

    He was just anti-Mason. A lot more people would be the same way if they knew the truth about this criminal org. that runs our government. [ST. MATT. 23:23 KJV]

    October 1, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
    • jonathan

      Mat. 23;23 Has nothing to do with our government. ..peace 🙂

      October 1, 2011 at 1:04 pm |
  19. James

    HAHA he was tortured.

    October 1, 2011 at 12:41 pm |
  20. Qularkono

    1. why did President Obama sit for years under the preaching of Rev Wright .... because in part he believed what he was hearing.
    2. why was this guy allowed/and supported to be the Imam in the U.S.? ... because in part the people their believed in what he was preaching.

    October 1, 2011 at 12:35 pm |
    • jonathan

      because... because.... because ... the answer is beyond the point you're making.. 🙂

      October 1, 2011 at 1:05 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Unless you can offer special insight into the minds of others, you are simply stating your opinion.

      October 1, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
    • TB

      Dont understand your complaint. If Obama was any kind of mulim extremist symapthizer he would not have given the order to take out Al-Awlaki, or Osama bin Laden, or any of these other lunatics. So what is your point?

      October 1, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
    • steven harnack

      Why are you a blathering idiot......too many unknowns. Why didn't you read the article before commenting......because you're a blathering idiot. The article stated that , while in the U.S. he preached tolerance, it was only after being imprisoned and tortured in Yemen that he became a radical. Kind of blows your whole theory, huh?

      October 1, 2011 at 1:56 pm |
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