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October 5th, 2011
01:53 PM ET

School tells girl wearing rosary violates dress code

An Omaha, Nebraska, sixth-grader was told she could not wear a necklace with a cross to school because the rosary has become an identifying symbol for gangs, CNN affiliate KETV reported.

Elizabeth Carey told KETV that wearing a rosary is an expression of her faith, but Fremont Public Schools says it is a violation of its dress code.

"I'm wearing a cross necklace, a cross T-shirt and a cross bracelet. I'm thinking of how Jesus died on the cross and how he gave up all his sins for us," Elizabeth told KETV.

Schools Superintendent Steve Sexton says the issue is about safety, not religion.

"We had information from law enforcement that there were documented instances of gang activity in the area, and we had information that states that the rosary was being used as a symbol of gang affiliation," Sexton told KETV.

"There are those who want to make this an issue about religion when it's about a singular goal - to create a safe environment for our students,” he said.

Omaha’s Catholic Archdiocese is disappointed with the school's decision.

"I don't think Christians should have to forfeit what is the symbol for the love of Christ because a few people want to misuse that symbol," Archdiocese Chancellor Rev. Joseph Taphorn told KETV.

The American Civil Liberties Union also has gotten involved.

"We understand the serious concerns about gangs in schools, but Fremont Public Schools should demonstrate there is a concrete gang connection before shutting down a student's free speech and religious rights,” Amy Miller, the legal director for the ACLU in Nebraska, told KETV,

"If the ACLU has another view, we will gladly listen to it, but the fact is one year ago we were alerted to the fact that wearing the rosary as jewelry had a gang affiliation,” Sexton said. “We took the position that we did after careful discussion with our attorneys."

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Belief • Catholic Church • Christianity • Church and state • Nebraska • United States

soundoff (1,104 Responses)
  1. Barry G.

    You must be joking!

    I see scantily clad youth, tattooed from head to toe (literally), with clothing barely covering their bodies, and they're going to object to rosary beads!

    How about objecting to youth, who walk around with their pants almost down to their thighs, as they flout their underwear and behinds to the civilized public.

    Let's start with banning these outrageous and disgraceful displays, before worrying about rosary beads.

    Think!

    October 6, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
    • Jamie K

      Most schools have! There are schools now talking about not letting the cheerleaders wear their uniforms inh class anymore because they're too skimpy.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:55 pm |
  2. Whatever

    Since when did rosaries become jewelry? They aren't necklaces.

    October 6, 2011 at 1:36 pm |
  3. JW

    Christ "gave up all his sins for us?" That is an interesting statement. What sins did he have to give up for us? Drinking? Hanging out with the poor?

    October 6, 2011 at 1:33 pm |
    • Kristin

      I wish there was an "OMG I LOVE IT!" button! Hilarious!

      October 6, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
    • Statistics

      Half of the population is of average or below average IQ. Poor girl. They walk among us. 🙂

      October 6, 2011 at 1:44 pm |
  4. Conrad Shull

    Gangs or religious belief not-with-standing, a rosary is not to be worn as a necklace.

    October 6, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
    • butlerbulldawg74

      Exactly what i was about to point out. Rosaries are NOT necklaces.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:25 pm |
    • Chris

      Not quite. In some parts of the world wearing a rosary as necklace is not uncommon or out of place.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
    • Robert-Argentina

      I think that you should view other people's cultures and backgrounds before making judgments. I was raised in the US in a strong Catholic family. I was always told that the Rosary was not to be used as a "necklace" and was scolded by my father when I did such. After spending the last ten years in Central and South America, I realized that this is not the case here. It is an expression of faith, to have Jesus close to you. Its not jewelry, it is showing the world you are proud to be Catholic.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      Standard way of thinking in religious communities. "My way" is the correct way because that is how I was raised! All these people are so sure that THEY happened to be born to parents that follow the one true religion.

      You can't ALL be right. When you can all agree, please let the rest of us know.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:49 pm |
  5. ncmyk

    this girl apparently needs to take her rosary to church, not school. if she did, the she (and her mom) would know you DON'T WEAR a rosary like a necklace ANYWAY! It is an instrument for prayer, not some fashion piece.

    October 6, 2011 at 1:21 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      >>>"It is an instrument for prayer, not some fashion piece."

      So, then it is your view and not hers on why and how she should use a rosary?

      October 6, 2011 at 1:36 pm |
    • Barry G.

      Faithful Christians don't merely engage in religious rituals on Sunday. The faithful put their faith into practice every moment of every day–praying, serving, loving, forgiving, etc..

      This is also true of the Jews, for Moses told them to speak to each other about the teachings and things of God when they get up in the morning, when they lie down and go to bed at night, when they go out of the home, when they return to the home....

      In other words true faith is a way of life, it's not a religion. It never ceases, until we leave this world.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:43 pm |
    • David Johnson

      @Barry G.

      What you say, is also true of all the other worshipers of a god, past and present. The Muslims stop doing whatever they are doing and pray 5 times a day. Unfortunately, compulsive behavior does not mean the god they are showing all this devotion to actually exists. Just means the worshiper are delusional.

      Cheers!

      October 6, 2011 at 1:54 pm |
    • Ashabash

      If you listen to the report it clearly says that the NECKLACE was purchased from The Buckle, a clothing store. It LOOKS so much like a rosary that the school was concerned. It isnt an actual rosary.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:58 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      @ David Johnson et al,,,, " Unfortunately, compulsive behavior does not mean the god they are showing all this devotion to actually exists. Just means the worshiper are delusional."

      Your "compulsive behaviorism" regarding "your" delusioned mindset is apart from many worshipers of Godly faiths. To say one's behavior is DNA related likened to the gay behaviors' staunchness for they were "born this way" is reprehensibly dishonest. A rather young child who is given liberal freedoms to do and think for themselves and is without any adult pedigree of a valued righteous system in such early stages of growth is to me, an unpardonable excuse in child rearing. It is better to set a child's eye upon their parent's soothing lectures of right-mindedness provided a parent(s) has the means and wherewithall to so such parent-based lecturing. Children are very maleable and will mold themselves around mostly any idea(s) they come across in the lifetime of youthfulness.

      October 6, 2011 at 2:18 pm |
  6. maryellen brokop

    i was born and raised a Catholic. the rosary is NOT a piece of jewlry – they are prayer beads not ornaments. if the child were told she could not use them as prayer beads during recess, or lunch, then Ii would say her civil rights were being violated. she should wear a cross, or crucifix without the beads.

    October 6, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
  7. Noelle

    Usually gangs where specific colors, day in and day out... I seriously doubt a female 6 grader is involved in such activity. This sounds like them trying to give her a hard time.

    October 6, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
    • Noelle

      *wear

      October 6, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
    • Jamie K

      They aren't giving her a hard time. They have a zero tolerance policy relating to gang culture. Theya re still allowing her to wear her tshirts with crosses on them, her cross bracelet, and a crucifix chain necklace if she so desires.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
    • Noelle

      Yeah... I went to a school with some gang activity, I've never heard of any such bans. She's in elementary school, not even in high school. It's just silly.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:27 pm |
    • Neeneko

      Generally the concern in such cases is not that the girl is a gang member herself, but that she could be targeted for unknownly wearing gang symbols. Such policies are as much about getting people out of the crossfire as they are about making life difficult for the gangs.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
  8. Atheos

    Its sad that anyone allows comments like a "christian child"... or to allow us to actually discuss a child's "faith"... shes a bloody child.

    Who is going to stand up and defend the indoctrination of a child to marxism, or to conservatism... Why dont we just let our children learn, and decide for themselves when they are/become adults?

    Take the crusifixes off the children... remove their burkas... leave the daggars at home... let them grow up into free thinking and intelligent adults.

    October 6, 2011 at 1:11 pm |
    • QS

      Seconded!

      October 6, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
    • TrueReality

      To prevent a parent from raising their children as they choose is a clear violation of their civil rights, whether you agree with the parent's beliefs or not. Anyway, all you're saying is that you'd rather indoctrinate children with atheism than a religion; both are belief systems. Also, you don't consider the possibility that the child may in fact have chosen to wear it – if you're so eager for children to be allowed choices, you have to accept that some will choose what you disagree with.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
    • melvinslizard

      "Indoctrination of a child?" It doesn't say she was being forced to wear the rosary, it says SHE WANTED TO. What about that qualifies as indoctination?
      Overkill on the school district's part!!!

      October 6, 2011 at 1:32 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      So, if the child desires to wear the Burka or the yamika or a cross your belief is that we should strip the items from them? Your desire to force them to remove the items, because you feel that the child would be better off without them, is no different than the Whabi's in Saudi Arabia or the Tali-ban who are forcing them to wear the items.

      It is another instance where folks can not see the difference in words between you guys on the militant fringes of society. All of you use the same words. You want to force a another to remove a religious item and they want to force ones into wearing it. In the end you want to take away choice and freedom, your sides always do.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:32 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      He's just trolling to stir the pot

      However if you think atheism is a belief system then you also have to say that not believing in Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy and Bigfoot are all belief systems too.
      So apparently I subscribe to millions of belief systems!

      October 6, 2011 at 1:36 pm |
    • pssst

      *Santa Claus (not Clause)

      October 6, 2011 at 2:27 pm |
    • TrueReality

      I'd say agnosticism is closer to a lack of belief than atheism is – agnosticism refrains from affirming anything, while atheism is a positive statement that one believes in no god. Also, atheism requires taking certain things on faith, just as much as any religion does, both in physical and philosophical areas – for example, a belief that there is no objective right and wrong, because there is no objective source of morality. Not to say that atheists can't have morality – they certainly can, but an intellectually honest one will admit that it is a subjective morality, because an objective one implies an outside source. In fact, I think being a staunch atheist can at times require more faith than being religious. In either case, scientifically proving the existence or non-existence of a god or gods would require a repeatable test, a demonstration of how the universe would function with or without deity, which is impossible. Therefore either position is a statement of faith, albeit a positive or negative one with regards to belief in a deity.

      Incidentally, the same logic applies to things like evolution and the Big Bang, which are commonly called scientific theory. However, a true scientific theory is something that is observable, repeatable, and verifiable through experimentation. Those "theories" do not meet those qualifications. Science is an excellent tool for describing and understanding the world as it currently is, for example physics or chemistry; however, it is not so effective at uncovering the past, because the past is by nature unobservable. Call them philosophical theories, perhaps, but not scientific ones.

      October 6, 2011 at 2:32 pm |
    • GodPot

      "To prevent a parent from raising their children as they choose is a clear violation of their civil rights, whether you agree with the parent's beliefs or not." Wrong. The courts have been clear on the fact that raising a child in a manner that would harm children, i.e. not allowing them to get an education, marrying off underage daughters, incest, forced labor and s e x slaves are all forms of raising a child our law's condemn and award severe punishment for those parental law breakers, as it should. I just happen to believe that the mental r a p e of a child by forcing them to believe in your brand of diety from almost before they can walk or talk is just as sick as forcing them to marry some old geezer when they are 13. Religion should be a choice made once a child reaches adulthood. The only problem with that is that parents will never stop forcing their beliefs on their children because of the fear their children will reject them and their religion if they were able to make up their own minds when they reach 18.

      October 6, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
    • TrueReality

      Fine, if you had any common sense I wouldn't need to qualify that statement, but I will anyway. As long as no crime is committed, to prevent a parent from raising their children as they choose is a violation of their civil rights. And thankfully, freedom of religion still exists in this country, though there are some like yourself who would like to destroy others' rights. The rest of your comment is so obscene and obviously meant to troll that it does not deserve a response, except to say that no one can be forced to believe anything – one can be taught, one can even be made to perform actions that seem to indicate belief, but belief itself in anything (religion or atheism) cannot be forced. And I think any good parent, who takes the well-being and education of their children seriously, would teach them about their own beliefs.

      October 6, 2011 at 4:21 pm |
  9. Richard S Kaiser

    Idolatry looms its' heads and the bewildered become the summoning crowds. Patterned through attrition many opine the lavishness while upsetting the lands' law. Few are ever to be unrecognizable attonements of the Glory-bound. We become likened to the deadened and supposed lifeless things we devour upon the dinner plates. Inside of all things does real life exist in a profound yet meandering way. Our bodies are as buildings while some are as temples. Once in a great while there comes one where is found inwardly, the Kingdom of God.

    A creature cannot be such without the creation nor can a life ever succeed to be without the essences granted to be that which is of Life. The Life of the creature goes hand to hand thru creation itself, never to alter itself in spiritual recognition. The damned were from the very beginning while thru time some found it within them to be a repentent one. The road of repentence becomes ever so narrowed as it meanders toward GOD's Gates. Never though under estimate the unproven ones for their fruits are yet an undetermined vestige. To be GOD is beyond anyones' or anythings' aspirations. Even to be as a God, many do fail in earnest trials yet thru tribulations does come much fruit. To the spoilers of virtues goes little but to the harvester's delightedness is found much yielding. Live and let live while striving toward a good and righteous lifetime in one's existence upon this celestial plain of omnivorance. Eat, drink and be in wonderment and awe of that which one does digest. Peace be upon your dinner plates.

    October 6, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
    • Atheos

      Oh you mean... GODS... everyone knows that the greeks had it right... zeus, athena and the like...

      Can you be realistic for a minute??

      October 6, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      My dinner plates thank you!

      October 6, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
    • Richard S Kaiser

      Atheos wrote on Thursday, October 6, 2011 at 1:13 pm, stating, "Oh you mean... GODS... everyone knows that the greeks had it right... zeus, athena and the like...Can you be realistic for a minute??"

      Greek theology is what I have been reading up on Atheos. My take on such is, "Chaos the GOD of Nothingness did yawn and did bare the elemental gods which in turn did thru "nodulationing" give rise to Gaia, our earth-mother. Gaia did thru virginity give birth to Uranus, the God of the Sky. Gaia then had intimate relations with Her 1st born Son Uranus and thru this continuing relationship did She create all manner of seeded life. 🙂

      October 6, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
  10. Tim B

    MarkinFL
    MarkenFL, You make a good point..

    Tim, give them some credit. You can't really compare them to street gangs. On the other hand organized crime does come to mind.

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    October 6, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
  11. grist

    Well this is crazy. I am an atheist but this violates the girl's freedom of expression. If all the Christian kids wore a rosary, that would take it back from the gangs. Should not let the gangs steal the symbol in a similar way that Nazis stole their symbol (It used to be considered a symbol of luck).

    October 6, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      Have to agree with you. You'll notice that the school board has not shown there to be an actual problem. They are willing to block free expression on what is essentially a whim. Purest speculation and nothing more. I'd lilke to see the data that shows that accidentally wearing a gang symbol is causing real problems. Not just a couple of anecdotal incidents but real data.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
    • QS

      Have to disagree with you. If you are enrolled in a Catholic school or some other private school with a religious affiliation, then by all means, wear your symbols all you want.

      In a public school setting however, I believe religious symbol wearing should be against all school dress codes.

      Just my opinion – not that I honestly believe this will ever happen...at least not in my lifetime. The religion corporation still has far too much power and influence over its sheep even in this day and age.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
    • melvinslizard

      QS-
      Using your reasoning, couldn't you just as easily say that a student NOT WEARING a rosary is advertising their (lack of) faith? Isn't that a religious statement, as well? I think there is an equal but opposite position that nullifies your logic. Let the kid wear what she wants and punish the kids that are actually behaving badly.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:36 pm |
    • QS

      No Melvin, because a "lack of faith" is not a religion. And again, if you are that insistent that you child be able to wear their religious symbols in school, send them to a private school with that religious affiliation...or do away with all religious schools and let all public school kids wear any symbols they want.

      But as long as there is an option for kids to go to a school that specifically represents their beliefs, then they have that option or the option to go to a public school and abide by the dress code. Which would you prefer?

      October 6, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      QS, what you are suggesting is completely counter to the 1st Amendment. There is no reason to restrict the religious expression of students and it is quite clearly protected by the Consti.tution..

      October 6, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      There is not some kind of right to not be exposed to other peoples beliefs. Free expression trumps that completely. Has nothing to do with religion. The religion part just keeps the gov't and its employees out of it.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:43 pm |
    • QS

      Then why do some schools have dress codes at all? Wouldn't that also be a violation of free expression? Just because the apparel in question happens to be religious in nature does not give it its own special rights in that regard either.

      Again, there are schools designed specifically to cater to these religions, send you kid to them. Public schools should be free of religion, period. They are not churches, they are not places of worship and they are not holy land of some kind...they are schools, kids go there to learn about real life things. They have plenty of other opportunities and lots of time outside of school to represent their religous beliefs where it isn't on display in a pseudo-confined environment.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
    • melvinslizard

      QS-
      My point is that to eliminate all vestiges of personal religious belief is to create an agnostic or atheistic community (God is not allowed). By rejecting the one you are inherently embracing the other.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:54 pm |
    • QS

      Mark, no offense, but you're doing what pretty much all religious people tend to do without even realizing it...putting religion on such a high pedestal that you can't make a differentiation between a "community" and a school environment.

      This is not about what YOU should be allowed to do in your life as an adult, nor is it about what your child should be allowed to wear outside of school. This is specifically about school, it has no broader implications than that, other than the falsely perceived implications you yourself have added to the discussion.

      October 6, 2011 at 2:03 pm |
    • QS

      Sorry, that was a reply to Melvin, not Mark. 🙂

      October 6, 2011 at 2:03 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      The existing dress codes have to do with causing a disruption. There is nothing inherently disruptive about religious expression. My children are not inconvenienced by any other child's religion or lack thereof. We should never err on the side of censorship always on the side of freedom. Better to be overly free than overly restricted.

      October 6, 2011 at 2:10 pm |
    • QS

      "The existing dress codes have to do with causing a disruption. There is nothing inherently disruptive about religious expression."

      Point taken. As I said, it's just my opinion that public schools should be religion free, but I don't expect it to happen anytime soon.

      However, in this particular instance it has been determined that in some fashion this accessory is or can be disruptive at this school. So I still think the school is right to not allow this girl to wear it at school.

      October 6, 2011 at 2:42 pm |
  12. Tim B

    The gangs of washington DC are already wearing flagpins. The gangs are called democrats and republicans in congress.. they are extremly dangerous..

    Geo

    S0 I guess that if gang members start wearing American flag pins that would also be dangerous ?

    October 6, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse | Reply

    October 6, 2011 at 1:05 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      Tim, give them some credit. You can't really compare them to street gangs. On the other hand organized crime does come to mind.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
  13. Doc Vestibule

    If they're really that concerned about it, they should enforce a Uniform policy.
    All students must wear orange jumpsuits with their identifying student numbers printed on the back.
    That way the Catholics can stop whining about their rosaries, the jewish kids won't be allowed yarmulkes, the sikh's won't have to fiht to keep their kirpans etc.

    October 6, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      Ok, that is for the Faith items. What about other identifying groups?

      No Obama or Republican clothing or buttons or hats. No Gay pride or similar...

      Basically voiding students from entering the grounds with anything showing their interest, hobbies or views?

      We are talking full Apple 1984 commercial with everyone in gray jumpsuits.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Orange jumsuits.
      You can buy them in bulk from the local penitentiary.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:45 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      I do not see a huge midget or small person population in the jails. 🙂

      October 6, 2011 at 1:51 pm |
  14. Geo

    S0 I guess that if gang members start wearing American flag pins that would also be dangerous ?

    October 6, 2011 at 12:50 pm |
    • maddi

      well how would anyone know that, bandanas also supposedly signify gangs, but they originated in russian and ukrainian culture, we'r at the mercy of our government and leaders

      October 6, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • maddi

      well how would anyone know that, bandanas also supposedly signify gangs, but they originated in russian and ukrainian culture, we'r at the mercy of our government and leaders, we are stupid selfish people

      October 6, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      It is possible. I have friends in the UK and nationalistic hate groups use the Union Jack so much that they have made regular Britons feel ashamed to display it or wear it on their clothing.

      Or you can look at the "heritage not hate" battle that is going on about the Confederate flag. You have some declaring that it is a symbol of their Southern heritage and they have a small but surprising number of Southern African Americans that are echoing that call. Then you have the Klan and other Civil Rights groups that declare it is a symbol of white power.

      So, every so often we get a story about some kid that wears a confederate flag tee-shirt to school and all heck breaks out.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
  15. maddi

    went to a school that also said that wearing the rosary was sacriligeos against other traditions because the catholic faith is the only religion that sanctifys the use of the rosary, it is sacriligeos for catholics to were them, but who are they too say that others cannot wear what they want, jewelers constantly lengthen the traditional rosary for the purpose of a necklace, and who am i, a catholic to say its wrong to were a cross, thats like telling americans not to support our flag because the muslims would be defended by it cause we are a country of god, for we state in god we trust

    October 6, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
    • Pope Scott

      In God We Trust does not mean we are a country of God. It was simply the vernacular of the day. MOST people who mentioned God in speach and writing were simply keeping up with the times and didn't believe in God as the literalists of today would like to have you believe. Don't be a sucker. Learn of the things you speak.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
    • melvinslizard

      Pope Scott-
      And you know this HOW? You never met one of the founding fathers, I would bet...
      Your rash over-generalization really just shows your personal opinion.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:39 pm |
    • I'm The Best!

      @ Melvinslizard
      "In God We Trust" wasn't added to money or even used really at all until the 50's. So our founding fathers had nothing to do with it. In fact, based on some letters between them and some of the things they all wrote, they would be offended that this is now on our money because they obviously wanted this to be a secular nation without any religious influence.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:56 pm |
  16. Kay Hill

    No one 'wears' a rosary. It is a Catholic tradition for prayer. Now, wearing a "Cross' signifies anything; from thugs, gangs, etc.
    If people do not know the difference then they are sadly mis-informed. What is next..? Our students can now wear the 'half-moon and star...?' Ask this young girl 'why' she chose to wear it around her neck..? Thanks, Kate

    October 6, 2011 at 12:47 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      Uhh, why shouldn't our students wear a half moon and star?

      October 6, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
  17. GOLD

    SO I WANT TO KNOW THEN, DOES IT MAKE IT RIGHT FOR THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO WEAR "GOTHIC ATTIRE" TO NOT HAVE TO CHANGE WHAT THEY ARE WEARING.?...PAST EXPIERENCE HAS TAUGHT US IN SCHOOLS THAT WHEN THEY COME DRESSING IN TRENCH COATS AND THE ALL BLACK ATTIRE THAT THEY ARE A THREAT TO US... WHEY SHOULD THEY NOT HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR CLOTHES ALSO....?

    October 6, 2011 at 12:42 pm |
    • JohnR

      Goths a threat? Yeah right

      October 6, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
    • BRC

      Trench coats are still banned in many schools, but thank you for looking out for our children's safety.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
  18. scarmadella`

    religion is the most corrupt organization on earth – TAX THEM –

    October 6, 2011 at 12:38 pm |
    • QS

      *applauds*

      October 6, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
    • maddi

      technically we do tax them for their churches and places of worship are on american soil

      October 6, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      Actually, no, we do not tax them....

      October 6, 2011 at 12:53 pm |
    • maddi

      technically as an organization we dont but on order to have places of worchip we do

      October 6, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      We do not tax their places of worship. They can all own sorts of property and pay no taxes. Sweet gig if you can get it.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:05 pm |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @scarmadella- Your tripe little opinion has been noted

      October 6, 2011 at 1:05 pm |
    • Pope Scott

      Maddi, you don't know anything about anything. We do not tax them. Period. Ever hear of 501(c)3? Again, learn of the things you speak. I can't keep walking you through life. You're just gonna keep making yourself look ignorant to everyone else. Jeeze!

      October 6, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • lee

      @maddi,
      Churches are tax exempt. They do not pay tax on the land or chapels they own. They also qualify for exemption from sales tax. I know, I was in charge of my church's finances for a while. We never paid a dime in tax, perfectly legal.

      October 6, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
    • GodPot

      @Uncouth – "Your tripe little opinion has been noted" Well, I'll give you the fact that his post was an opinion in so much as determining who is the "most" corrupt, but to call it nonsensical or "tripe" is saying religion is not corrupt. And if you don't think religion is corrupt then you may want to get your eyes, nose, ears and brain checked, they all seem to be creating a blind spot for you which may be allowing a devious, embezzling, lying, cheating, stealing, r a p i n g pedophile pastor or priest access to your children.

      October 6, 2011 at 4:20 pm |
  19. WDinDallas

    It is improper to wear the rosary.

    October 6, 2011 at 12:35 pm |
  20. Matt

    Lol silly religion! Imaginary friends are for kids! 🙂

    October 6, 2011 at 12:33 pm |
    • MIKE

      lol wheres the like button lol

      October 6, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • Pope Scott

      Where's the really like button?

      October 6, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
    • David in Corpus

      My parents made me go to church (methodist). The last one I attended at age 15 asked my father not to bring me back.
      Simple question to the preacher: You talk to God sir? He answers yes. I ask another question. So which is it, are you schizophrenic or a liar?

      October 6, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
    • duh

      YES!!! so true! LIKE

      October 6, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
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